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The Gulf Wars GroupBuild--Operations Desert Storm & Iraqi Freedom (2/8/08- 28/2/09)

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Posted by Townsy11 on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:25 PM

Hey Vince, You mean this sorta thing?:

http://www.realmodel.cz/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=178&products_id=3535&zenid=19916ac73d34da5105a848544a63b0f4

RealModel has alot of different kinds of OIF signs and banners and what not, so if that's not what your looking for, just check their catalog and chances are you'll probably find what your looking for. HTH.

 and Constructor, yes this GB is still open, if you would like to join, you can do so from anytime from now up until February 28, 2009.

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."-- General George S. Patton
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Posted by constructor on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:02 PM
Can you count me in? I  intend to build my Academy Warrior 1/35. Thanks!
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Posted by GA.modelmaker on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:34 AM
hey townsy what program are u using to shrink your gb badges. also townsy i am dropping the  mlrs-270 from this gb. for two diffrent sites of gb they are starting to get to bunced together thanks rob.
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Posted by Townsy11 on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:00 PM

 Hey guys,

Constructor- Sounds great, I'll put you on the list.

GA.modelmaker- Hey Rob, I use photobucket mostly to shrink my badges, I do it by uploading them to photobucket, selecting the badge, and then going to the "edit" option, click "resize" and you can then save it at a smaller resolution. Alternatively though, you can use Microsoft Paint instead, but Photobucket is easier. HTH.

Chris,

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."-- General George S. Patton
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Posted by GA.modelmaker on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:26 PM

yep that does help a lot and thats what i use to upload all my photos anyways is photobucket..

 

hey townsy. will u give me a yell at my email here on the forum. i need a favorif you dont mind tnaks

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Posted by Townsy11 on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:09 AM

Hey Guys,

Got a bit of bad news. My parents want to get up to the Cottage one more time this summer and the only time that it'll be free is from August 2nd to the 9th. So I most likely will not be here to kick off the start of this GB, everybody can start building without me though, and I'll catch up when I get back. Sorry guys.

There is a small chance I'll be able to get onto the computer on the second, but things will be pretty hectic that day so I can't make any promises.

and GA.modelmaker, I sent you a PM.

 

Chris,

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."-- General George S. Patton
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Posted by constructor on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:34 AM
I'm doing a Warrior (Academy) for this GB. Terry Ashley mentioned in his review that the kit needs some corrections regarding the large mesh bin on the right side and the smaller left rear hull side bins which were replaced with solid metal bins. Would anybody have some ref pictures of this cuz I could'nt find any? It would be nice to have the correct bins even if I have to scratch build it. Tanx! 
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Posted by Townsy11 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:41 AM

Hey Constructor, are these what you mean?

large side mesh bin:

Rear metal bins:

 If so, I might be able to scrounge up a couple more, HTH.

 

 

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."-- General George S. Patton
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Posted by Townsy11 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:49 AM

Also, here's two more good pics of the rear bins: (different style I think?)

Sorry, I don't now which one would have been used in Iraq, but give me a sec and I'll try and find out..

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."-- General George S. Patton
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Posted by Townsy11 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:53 AM

And this pic suggests a totally different style in General, as this is an Iraq vehicle though, I would assume this is correct, unfortunately though I can't find any pics of the "large right side bin" on an Iraq vehicle as it is obscurred by the ERA.

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."-- General George S. Patton
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Posted by constructor on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:42 AM

Townsy, the right side mesh bin in your first picture is what I mean. I think (according to Terry), the mesh was replaced with a solid metal siding but what I'm not sure of is if they installed a cover as well. I'm not sure about the left side bin because at the left rear side of the turret, above the tool rack there is also a small bin. Maybe Terry Ashley can enlighten us with this.

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Posted by constructor on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:15 PM
Wow Dupes! You got it wrong. This is a group build, not an invasion. Looking forward to see your desert armory.
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Posted by Townsy11 on Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:09 AM

Yea sorry Constructor, I can't really find any pics of an Iraq Warrior from above, I do know however that the front of the large right side bin was covered in the ERA sections that cover the side skirts, as for there being any sort of cover on top, I'm not sure.

You could try posting a thread in Armor and see if anybody there knows?

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."-- General George S. Patton
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Posted by White_R34 on Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:30 AM

Hay Townsy once I get my new bradley done for this GB I want to try to totle scratch build a M1117 Guardian ASV. I'll let you know just before I start on it if I think I can do it or not as there are no resin kits out there for it. But I have a lot of photos of them from the company here in Louisianaand in Iraq.. If I can get it done or just started it in this GB, I'm not going to try and do an interior I'm only going to try to get the body done right. Now if I can only find some tires like the ones on the ASV. Oh and if any of you are going to tell me use the Humvee wheels and tires there are not as tall as the ASV and the LAV tires don't have the right tred but the wheels may pass. As you can see I'm still working and thinking on this and there is one othere flat faced truck that I'm going to try and build also it's called the LSAC I dont have the numbers of this truck yet. Here's some Images.

http://www.defense-update.com/images/LSAC_Iraq.jpg Low Signature Armored Cab (LSAC)

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/fmtv-lsac_armored-cabs.jpg

M1117 Guardian ASV:Armored Security Vehicle(ASV)

http://img.blog.yahoo.co.kr/ybi/1/24/56/shinecommerce/folder/8/img_8_8374_8?1165044512.jpg

It looks like it was or are made from the M1078 Standard Cargo LMTV Truck.

The full name and numbers of the truck is: M1078/1078A1 LMTV 2 1/2 Ton 4x4 (Armored) Cargo Truck or LSAC

But any way I will be back with a hole host of images of vehicles that look realy cool from over there in Iraq.

 

 

Building the Impossible Is my main goal!!
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Posted by constructor on Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:57 PM

It's GB Day tomorrow. Open your kit boxes and let's roll!

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Posted by dupes on Friday, August 1, 2008 6:33 AM

Oh man, it IS, isn't it? August REALLY snuck up on me...wow. Shock [:O]

Looks like I'll be taking something with me this weekend to get a start on then. Hmmm...Wink [;)]

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, August 1, 2008 11:22 AM
 constructor wrote:

It's GB Day tomorrow. Open your kit boxes and let's roll!

I've had the M577 kit open for days... Then spent two days hunting down pictures on the 'net..

Now, bout the anniversary date... 1 Aug 90, Ft Hood, Texas... My unit had just come out of the field after a 15-day FTX, and me and the Smoke were sittin' on a tent pad in North Fort, just cleaning our weapons and battle-rattle and firin' the feces about the Iraqi troop build-up on the Kuwaiti border we'd been getting snippets of info about...  We both agreed that ol' Saddam wasn't doing it to stretch his army's legs, and that Kuwait was in for a bit of scrap.  It wasn't in our mind-set that it'd be a full-scale invasion yet, but we figured that there was no way that there wouldn't be some cross-border activity, probes and such...  Next day, when we heard the feces had struck the breeze-generator, we both KNEW we were gonna be leaving the States soon...

Turns out it was actually 2 months before we deployed OCONUS to S.A., but for the life of me, I couldn't figure out why anyone was surprised... Especially those speed bumps in the 82nd...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, August 2, 2008 10:39 AM

Ok... Upon the (official) opening of the M577, I noticed that the interior of the track is non existant.  So my first mission is now gutting an old M-113 I've been toting around for about 20 years and getting it adapted to the 577.  Since the M113 also has the engine, I'll be adding that as well, so I guess this will be a kitbash of Tamiya's M577 and M113.  And there's another plus: The M113 hulk will now become an M548 down the road... Big Smile [:D] 

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Posted by lewbud on Monday, August 4, 2008 11:29 AM

Townsy,

Count me in.  I got a whole bunch (all but two of the releases) of Dragon's 1/72 Humvee kits that'll work for this build.  Don't know which variant(s) I'll build.  I'll surprise myself.  Dupes, Hellcat Man, glad to see ya'll over here.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by dupes on Monday, August 4, 2008 12:55 PM

You too, Lewbud. Big Smile [:D]

Townsy - decided to do the M113 I have kicking around with OIF markings. I've wanted to do something in NATO 3-tone and dust it up, so this is my opportunity, it looks like! Started assembly last night - will post a pic or two when it gets a bit closer to paint. Was hoping to bang this one out in some sort of marathon build sessions, but I think that Nationals is going to get in the way. Heh. Boohoo [BH]

Oh, btw, nice job on your Leopard 2! You and SMJ on the same page of the reader gallery...pretty nifty! Thumbs Up [tup] Just picked that kit up myself, hoping to round out my collection of the big country's modern MBT's - looks like I just need a Merkava II. 

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Posted by White_R34 on Monday, August 4, 2008 5:41 PM
Ok you all I have some good and bad news First the bad, I have looked for the ERA resin set and some hobby shops and Co. are out and the ones that have them there at a high in price. Mini Co's are over the big pond! (That's out) I'm going to have to scrtch build this one as well., but I don't have to do as much turret and upper hull work as I did on my first one. I have a NEW set of AFV tracks coming in and I need the interior and PE sets then I can start. I'm going to try and rap up my othere projects real soon so I can jump on this GB with all my hart.
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Posted by White_R34 on Monday, August 4, 2008 8:07 PM

Oh Townsy What I think I'm trying to say if not just warning labels but labels that tell you how to operate what ever the equipment is and some tell you that the area is a high voltage spot. There are some that are for specs of the vehicle, Vehicles code numbers ect. If I can find a link I can make my own decals. I have white decal paper and I have used them before.

Here the images are not that clear but you can see some labels.

http://data3.primeportal.net/apc/miloslav_hraban/m3a2_ods_cfv/images/m3a2_ods_cfv_13_of_52.jpg

http://data3.primeportal.net/apc/miloslav_hraban/m3a2_ods_cfv/images/m3a2_ods_cfv_28_of_52.jpg

Any way I could just try to make some up but they will not look the part but I will cross that bridge when I come to it.

Building the Impossible Is my main goal!!
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Posted by GA.modelmaker on Tuesday, August 5, 2008 10:23 AM
oh man another one that has snuck up on me. how long is this gb for? and to make matter worse i have 2 gb on the aromama site that i havent even started yet. and one more on this site that hanst been started and one that is stalled at the moment. the good thing about my 2 builds is that both paint schemes are going to be desert sand. the only problem i really see is for the chaparral that darn thing has indy tracks and that may take awhile to do since i never have dealt with them before. so since the heat has been in the upper 90s and the heat index kicked up well over 105 the wx man is saying stay inside. i may get at least 4 done by the end of the month if every thing goes all right.
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Posted by dupes on Thursday, August 7, 2008 11:26 AM

Things are moving along quite nicely on the M113, but taking a short hiatus for the weekend - I'm off to Nationals! Big Smile [:D] Maybe I can find some good builds to use as references. Wink [;)]

See you guys on Monday!

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Posted by White_R34 on Thursday, August 7, 2008 6:12 PM

Good luck at the Nationals if you in it. An to Town hay man I have bean looking in all the rong places for the items I asked about. There not decals as I though there PE parts called and your go to love this: Color photo-etched Placards Detail Set for what ever kit. PE who would have known Dunce [D)] I'm a nut on the site were I do all my shopping and I have seen these before and did not take the time to read up on them before asking you all about them. Here's a like to a set so you can see what i'm talking about.Thumbs Up [tup]

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=EUTP516

Here's a Biger shot of one:

http://www.hyperscale.com/images/f100deduardpe_09.jpg

I see you can get them in decal form and in transfer form:

http://www.dvsm.org/Images/Amps/AMPS-USPlacrd.jpg

http://www.michtoy.com/MTSCnewSite/plastic_model_kits_folder/archer_decals/2008_adds/FER-35282.html

Well now that I truly see just what I need I must find some sets for my M113 and my Bradley projects. I'm looking through my Catalog and once I find some more set's I will post them.

Ok I have a line of links.

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=EUTP506 Dodge Data Plates colored.

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=EUTP505 Willys Jeep Data Plates colored.

That's all I have from Sq but I will keep looking around the net to see what I can dig up. An once I get more links on this subject I will post what I find. Oh one think I must point out is if any of you know what the right Placards should be in your project you may be able to use some from more that one set to use you in your projects interior. An if any one want's to add to this search please feel free to do so.

Oh and one last thing I got my AFV tracks in to day, next the interior and Full PE set. Then I will post all the items and then the work will start.

 

Building the Impossible Is my main goal!!
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Posted by GA.modelmaker on Saturday, August 9, 2008 11:15 AM
all right thier hans i cant waite to see your m577. i am doing that one for the m113 gb. so far the kit has gone together without any problems.  the only thing i dont like about it is these darn tracks.  anybody know of anyy replacements for it?
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Posted by Townsy11 on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:27 PM

Hey Guys!

Sounds like everybody got off to a great start without me, I need to catch up!

Vince: Those are some pretty cool etched sets, I never even knew such a thing existed. I'm glad you found what you were looking for. And that M1117 looks pretty sweet! Definently looking forward to seeing that one if you can get around to it.

Hans: A cool bit of Nostalgia there to help us get in the mood for the GB. Good luck on your kitbashing as well.

Lewbud: Sounds great, I'll put you down for a 1/72 Dragon HMMWV.

Dupes:  I'll put you down for the M113, and I'm assuming it's 1/35, but who's the manufacturer? And thanks, I didn't realise me and SMJ were on the same page till I just got my copy today, but it is pretty cool.

Rob: The GB goes till February 28th of next year, but if you can't get both builds done for this GB don't worry about it. Also, I can add your Sherman Family GB badge to your slideshow if you would like.

I think Friulmodel makes a set of M113 family replacement tracks too.

As for me, I've gotten most of the basic construction done on the Bradley and I've sprayed the horizontal surfaces in textured spray paint to simulate the anti-slip. Should have some pics up in about a week.

 

 

 

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."-- General George S. Patton
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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:39 PM
Ah, sorry. It's the most recent Tamiya kit, the 1/35 M113A2 Desert Version. Hoping to blow out of work here in a bit and hit the bench for a while. Wink [;)]
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Posted by GA.modelmaker on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:30 PM
hi guys  i should be able to start my 2 by monday if everything works out all right. i have 3 more gb all most done. 2 of them were painted today and i need to paint 1 more and then weather all of them. the jeep ambulance is gonna be breeze to weather and os is the m577. its that m108 thats going to take some time to weather. but i should be starting this gb by monday and the frist one built will be the m1025 hummer.
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Posted by osjohnm on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:12 AM

Hi All

Glad to see everyone has gotten started.

Life has been a bit hectic over the last 3 weeks and modelling was put on hold for awhile.

Also going to Italy next week for 2.5 weeks of well deserved vacation time.

Will start the C1 Ariete when I return mid September.

John
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