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US Army Air Corps GB - Deadline extended again to June 30, 2009

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Posted by USArmyFAO on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 8:33 AM
If at all possible I have the Revell P-61 I would like to enter...

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Posted by arki30 on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 7:56 AM
Aggieman, I'm in with a 1/48 Hasegawa P-38J.  It's been in my stash for a very long time and needs to get built!

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Posted by IL2windhawk on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 1:40 AM

Excellent.  I've always like the P-36.
Did any P-36s get airborne during the melee of Pearl Harbor?

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, August 5, 2008 1:29 PM

Today I've finally decided on my build for this GB ... the 1/48 Academy P-36 Hawk.  Sure it's the big brother of the P-40, of which I've built 5 recently, but it's not a P-40!  It'll be a Pearl Harbor defender after I research the -36s that were assigned to USAAC squadrons on Pearl Harbor.  And I'll probably want to get a set of aftermarket decals as I've long heard that the Academy decals leave a lot to be desired.

I'm also leaving open the possibility of adding a second and perhaps third build for this GB, but those will only come as time allows.

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Posted by lewbud on Monday, July 28, 2008 7:00 PM
 lewbud wrote:

Steven,

Would like to join, but have few irons in the fire.  Perhaps something from the interwar period will let you know when I know.

Ok, I know.  Revell 1/72 P-26.

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Posted by lewbud on Monday, July 28, 2008 6:49 PM

Steven,

Would like to join, but have few irons in the fire.  Perhaps something from the interwar period will let you know when I know.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by Aggieman on Monday, July 28, 2008 12:13 PM

Charles,

Yes, that P-47N fits the bill.  Looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

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Posted by mucker on Monday, July 28, 2008 11:55 AM

Steven:

I'm pretty sure my 1/48 Academy P-47N would fit the bill. I'd like to enter it into the GB if it does.

Charles

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, July 27, 2008 7:02 PM
Put me down for a Pro Modeler 1/48th A-26B, Aggieman... Tentative Monogram 1/48th SBD modified to an A-24 Banshee may follow...

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Posted by Aggieman on Sunday, July 27, 2008 1:53 PM

Thank you for the clarification, Colonel.

For purposes of this group build, USAAC = USAAF.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, July 27, 2008 10:54 AM

 

I'd love to enter this GB with this kit, but as I understand it: this P-40F flew for the USAAF.   Is that somehow part of the USAAC? 

Actually, the US Army Air Corps became the US Army Air Forces in 1941.

http://www.aafha.org/aaf_or_aircorps.html

U.S. Army personnel have traditionally been assigned to branches: Infantry, Artillery, Air Corps, Quartermaster Corps, Corps of Engineers, etc. Branches were generally responsible for training and materiel, although their roles changed from time to time. Operational commands, such as combat divisions and corps, integrated personnel from multiple branches; e.g., Infantry, Artillery, Quartermaster and so on.
 

The Army Air Forces (AAF) came into being on June 20, 1941, six months before Pearl Harbor. As war approached, Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson and Army Chief of Staff George C. Marshall saw the need for a stronger role for Army aviation. Consequently they created the Army Air Forces with General H. H. (Hap) Arnold as its head. 

Army Air Forces attained quasi autonomy in March 1942, a few months after the we entered the war. Acting under authority of the War Powers Act, Secretary Stimson approved a major War Department reorganization. Army Air Forces and Army Ground Forces were made co-equal commands. Significantly, as Commanding General of the AAF, General Arnold became a member of the WW II Joint Chiefs of Staff along with the Army Chief of Staff (General Marshall), the Chief of Naval Operations (Admiral Ernest J. King), and President Roosevelt's principal military adviser (Admiral William D. Leahy).

The AAF expanded rapidly. It initially had two subordinate organizations, the Air Corps for training and materiel and Air Force Combat Command (replacing GHQ Air Force) for operational forces. As the wartime build-up proceeded, more commands were added -- Flying Training Command, Technical Training Command, Ferrying Command, the numbered air forces and so on. 

In the course of wartime expansion and reorganization, the Air Corps ceased to be an operating organization. All elements of Army aviation were merged into the Army Air Forces. Although the Air Corps still legally existed as an Army branch, the position of Chief of the Air Corps was left vacant, and the Office of the Chief of the Air Corps was dissolved. 

The Army Air Forces thus replaced the Air Corps as the Army aviation arm and -- for practical purposes -- became an autonomous service. All World War II Army aviation training and combat units were in the AAF. About 2.4 million men and women served in the AAF. Around 600,000 of these were members of other branches, such as Engineers, Ordnance and Quartermaster. (The official history published after the war is entitled The Army Air Forces in World War II.)

World War II Air Corps personnel had a strong sentimental attachment to their branch. The Air Corps had an aura about it that seemed to set it apart from other Army branches. Now, sixty years later, many WW II servicemen still proudly identify themselves as veterans of the Air Corps. However -- although the Air Corps was their branch -- they actually served and fought in the Army Air Forces! 

In honoring Army aviation in WW II, the most appropriate and inclusive identification is Army Air Forces.

Bottom line is that if it's an Army bird, it's a go...

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Posted by IL2windhawk on Sunday, July 27, 2008 10:27 AM

My next build will be a P-40F, serving with the 57th FG in Africa.   I'd love to enter this GB with this kit, but as I understand it: this P-40F flew for the USAAF.   Is that somehow part of the USAAC?  Confused Confused [%-)]

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Posted by new1 on Sunday, July 27, 2008 9:22 AM

not sure how or where to do this... but i would like to join

i have the 1/48 Revell P-40B tiger shark

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Posted by Aggieman on Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:54 AM
Ooops!  Further proof of the need to proof-read before releasing written work.  Thanks for the catch, yes, I did intend for 2009 and did not assume that everyone here has access to a Delorean with a flux capacitor.Wink [;)]
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Posted by arki30 on Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:06 PM
Uh, can we assume you mean May of 2009?  Otherwise the build time frame might be hard to achieve! Big Smile [:D]

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US Army Air Corps GB - Deadline extended again to June 30, 2009
Posted by Aggieman on Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:21 PM

Hello all! 

The US Army Air Corps was the air arm of the United States Army from 1924 - 1948, when the United States Air Force officially came into existence.  This group build will be for any aircraft that flew for the USAAC during the time period of 1924 - 1948.  Rules will be simple:

1.  Must have flown with USAAC units from 1924 - 1948.

2.  Any scale is allowed.

3.  Simple OOB build or add to your build with scratch-built or after-market goodies.  Your choice

4.  Multiple entries welcome.

5.  Entries from other group builds are welcome so long as they fit within the rules here.

6.  Time frame: September 1, 2008 through May 8, 2009 (the beginning of war in Europe to VE Day).  Can join at any time.  DEADLINE EXTENDED TO JUNE 30, 2009

7.  And finally, have fun!

For a list of aircraft of the USAAC, visit this site:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_aircraft_of_the_United_States  There are a lot of aircraft on this site that will not qualify for this GB. 

This is the badge I came up with.  If anyone has a better idea, I'm open to suggestions.

-or-

the badge that Darth Trader created

Airman Kit Status
Jeffrey (new1) Revell 1/48 P-40B Tiger Shark Not started
IL2windhawk AmTech 1/48 P-40F 57th FS, 64th FS Mediterranean theater of operations Completed
Hans von Hammer Monogram 1/48 B-24J Liberator Scratched
  Pro-Modeler 1/48 A-26B Invader Scratched
  Monogram 1/48 SBD modified as A-24 Banshee (tentative) Not started
Aaron (sfcmac) Academy 1/48 P-36A Hawk Completed
Charles (Mucker) Hasegawa 1/48 P-51D Mustange Completed
lewbud Revell 1/72 P-26 Peashooter Not started
Matt (USArmyFAO) Monogram 1/48 P-61 Black Widow Not started
Rob (viper_mp) Academy 1/48 P-36A Hawk Completed
arki30 Hasegawa 1/48 P-38J Lightning Started
bspeed Hobbycraft 1/72 Beech C-45 Expeditor Not started
John (tempestjohnny) Academy 1/72 P-51D Mustang Completed
WarHammer Tamiya 1/72 P-47D Razorback Not started
BigSmitty AMT/ERTL 1/48 A-20G Havoc Scratched
  Tamiya 1/72 P-47D Razorback "Sleepy Time Gal" 5th AF, 58th FG Completed
Darth Trader Revell 1/48 P-38J Lightning Completed
  Hasegawa 1/48 P-40N Warhawk Completed
  Academy 1/48 P-47N Thunderbolt Possible
FeldMarSchall Model Monogram 1/48 B-17G Flying Fortress Started
Steven (Aggieman) Academy 1/48 P-36A Hawk Completed

The Squadron:

IL2Windhawk P-40F

Big Smitty P-47D

sfcmac P-36A

Darth Trader P-38J

Darth Trader P-40N

viper_mp P-36A

arki30 P-38J

Aggieman P-36A

Mucker P-51D

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