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Trumpeter 1/35 M198 155mm Howitzer, Finished, 8/09/09

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, June 9, 2009 3:49 PM

J - Adjust fire out!!

Yep, CARC brings back the memories!! Sligload artillery.....A34 bags.....fun, fun, fun.

If you ever drove a Panzer.....your a lot older than you look Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Thanks for stopping by.

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Posted by scratchmod on Tuesday, June 9, 2009 4:11 PM

I really like the looks of that gun, especially the camo, awesome job so far.

I hear ya on the yard work part, it's never ending.

Rob

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:42 PM

Rob - Thanks for stopping in and for the comments.

I picked up a new AB at AMPS International and it is great. Keeps the old hand steady and makes freehand camo much simpler for these old shaky hands.

Glad you like it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:35 PM
...coming along nicely...good job on the NATO "woodland" scheme...
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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:09 AM

Manny - Thanks for stopping in and for the comments. Always a pleasure to have you by!

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:59 AM
Looking great Mike.  Aren't the pieces you added part of the "later" version?  That is probably why they are not mentioned in the directions.  Looks like it will be another great model.

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:56 PM

Gino - Great to have you stop in!!

I'm sure the M90 bracket was added later, circa early 80s and not part of the original M198. The brake line meter I thought was an original but I'm sure. At worst it was an early upgrade. They molded the two lines which go into the meter onto the trail but no mounting holes for the parts or mention in the instructions.

Conversly, they have the wire reel on the rear (which I don't ever remember seeing a 198 with a reel on it) and also no mounting hole.

There are a number of items in the directions which are vague or missing. They give you projectiles, but no markings nor any powder cans. They should have just looked at the AFV ammo set....Duh. They also give you a staff with the rammer on it and a loading tray. I know what it is but most people will not and again no mention in the directions

For the build look, I am looking at circa 1980s/early 90s. There were a number of subtle changes/additions in the early days. I am sure their late version will be more of late 90s/00 with all the upgrades onboard.

Don't get me wrong, the kit has a lot of advantages and builds into a very nice model. But there are some things they could have done better and other you just go....DUH. They could have hit a home run but we have to settle for a triple!!!

Always keeping the bubbles level!

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:50 PM

Assembling the upper carriage turned out to be a chore. The swivel base connects to the support arms and the lower equilibrators are to be pinned between the two. First the fit was off and required sanding and then trying to connect four pieces at one time is next to impossible. After a few foiled attempts, I cut off one side of the pinning on each equilibrator and glued the other side.

Once the glue dried now I only had to deal with the swivel base as a whole. With that mounted I closed up the seams and masked required areas prior to the camo.

I also mounted the large top screen from the supplied PE. Rounding the screen was a search but the syringe I use for thinner addition was a perfect size, which turns out to be 0.50 inches in diameter

Where the arms meet the swivel base, once again I employed the Archer weld beads.  You can see clearer in this picture the lower equilibrator arms, swivel base and the support arms and how they all fit

After everything was masked I hit the paint booth. First a quick overall top coat of NATO Green, then the NATO Black and NATO Brown for the camo.

I let the paint set up overnight, then I "reversed the masking to expose the metal area of the barrel which is not painted since it moves during recoil. The metal barrel and breech area was painted with Alclad Steel.

The entire upper assembly was added to the lower carriage.

View from the rear

Once all assembled this model is big when built in the firing position. From barrel end to trail end is about 13 inches and the trails spread about 10 inches. This make taking overall pics fun to get depth of field!!.

That's it for now. Next, final hand wheels and gears, travel support, sights and scratch build air lines a left to be mounted. Then we will be onto weathering.   

Total hours this update - 8.0 hours

Total hours this overall build - 28.0

Thanks for looking and as always, all comments are welcome.

Rounds Complete!!

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  • From: clinton twp, michigan
Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:47 PM

nicely done red! now...is it going in a dio or at least are ya going to put some rounds next to her? well, once she's finished! ya know just for that little extra! Whistling [:-^] just curious.

.....survey first......!

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, June 14, 2009 6:10 PM

Camo - Oh yeah....I am planning to set up on a base. HE, HC, WP and Illum broken out. Powder canisters, fuse cans, a pale and bore brush and the scratch built collimeter (Hans....your favorite). Thanks for looking and your comments.

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Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:00 PM
very cool. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:56 PM

Camo - Thanks!!

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:58 PM
Looking good Mike! Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, June 15, 2009 5:22 AM

Bill - Thanks!!

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, June 15, 2009 7:37 AM

Hey there Mike... sorry buddy, I missed this one completely.  But i didnt think this one really counted anyway because it's not ALL green.  There is some other colors mixed in thereWhistling [:-^]

Seriously, your usual fine work ith palstic and paint.Thumbs Up [tup]

Marc  

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, June 15, 2009 11:11 AM

Marc - Thanks. Green...yes, black, brown, sand....sometimes....grey or It brown....neverWink [;)]

Thanks

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Posted by I make stuff on Monday, June 15, 2009 11:51 AM

That's looking mighty fine.

I may ask it for a date.

Bill

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, June 15, 2009 12:31 PM

Bill - Thanks....I'll keep you on the call list Shock [:O]

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:19 PM
 redleg12 wrote:

HE, HC, WP and Illum broken out. Powder canisters, fuse cans, a pale and bore brush and the scratch built collimeter (Hans....your favorite).

Rounds Complete!!

Heh... Glad you remembered.. You need to sell those things, Redleg... I'b buy one.. (then use it as a master, but you don't need to know thatBig Smile [:D]) Make sure you store thse WP on the base now... (A prize to the first non-Redleg to tell me why that's done- A free night with Aiming-Post Amy!)

Sad to report I know nothing about the 198 though.. I went from a GS Pig Battalion to 109s, then back to Towed Arty and M102s (Air Assault ya know) before I went Chemical...

 

 

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 3:05 PM

Hans - Just for you, I will do a "mini toot" on building a collimeter.

Then you can build your own and clone yourself Shock [:O]

Hummm......nice trivia on WP, mums the word on the answer!!

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Posted by jthurston on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 3:43 PM
Wait, what's the question? How WP rounds are stored on the base?
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Posted by SMJmodeler on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:15 AM

redleg12: Hey, that photo does look familiar!Big Smile [:D]  I like the enlarged version...is that CAMO on that bad boy!?  Based on the base size that's one serious piece of artillery.  What's its range?

Looks good so far Mike!...you going to camo it too? *EDIT*  I just saw the more current pic's...nice camo!

How about simulating that blast smoke?,  that would be cool!

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:31 AM

Hey guy, nice to have you stop in. Yep, its big and the model is big too.

The real deal has about a 30 km range.

Smoke.....I though about it, but I would have to show the howitzer in recoil, crew, etc. Smoke just never seems to look right in 1/35

I will be mounting and setting up the position around the weapon. Also will mix it up with different types of ammunition!!

Glad you like the camo. I am using a new AB which makes the free hand camo easy for these old eyes and shaky hands.

Thanks for stopping by and your comments. This one should be at AMPS East!!

Rounds Complete!! 

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:40 AM

 redleg12 wrote:

The real deal has about a 30 km range.

HOLY PROJECTILES!!!...isn't that about 18 miles?!  That seems WAY TOO FAR!

 redleg12 wrote:

Smoke.....I though about it, but I would have to show the howitzer in recoil, crew, etc. Smoke just never seems to look right in 1/35

Why?

 redleg12 wrote:

Glad you like the camo. I am using a new AB which makes the free hand camo easy for these old eyes and shaky hands.

It'll off-set the effects of the cocktails tooBig Smile [:D]...

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:05 AM
 SMJmodeler wrote:

 redleg12 wrote:

The real deal has about a 30 km range.

HOLY PROJECTILES!!!...isn't that about 18 miles?!  That seems WAY TOO FAR!

Modern artillery can reach out and touch you a long distance. That is the difference between a gun and a howitzer. With today's survey, GPS, laser targeting, etc, if done properly it is accurate to withing 5 meters at 30km!

Modern 105mm reach to about 19km and 155mm 30km.

 redleg12 wrote:

Smoke.....I though about it, but I would have to show the howitzer in recoil, crew, etc. Smoke just never seems to look right in 1/35

Why?

Just looks fake to me! I have tried it with my M270 MLRS....its OK. Also not looking to do a bunch of figs with this one. I would need figs to complete the "look".

 redleg12 wrote:

Glad you like the camo. I am using a new AB which makes the free hand camo easy for these old eyes and shaky hands.

It'll off-set the effects of the cocktails tooBig Smile [:D]...

The camo looks best after coktails!!

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:56 AM

 jthurston wrote:
Wait, what's the question? How WP rounds are stored on the base?

Not how, but Why...

"Why must WP artillery rounds be stored on their base?"

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, June 19, 2009 6:35 AM
Shameless bump for the trivia question...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, June 19, 2009 7:20 PM

OK, no takers...

Answer: 

The WP rounds must be stowed on their bases because the filler melts at 111-114 degrees F and there's a void at the top of the projoe..  If stored on the side and the filler melts, then cools off enough to re-solidify, the void will be along the side of the joes and the round will "wobble", screwing up the ballistics of the round when fired..

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Posted by E. Jose on Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:44 AM

Thanks for the post. Now I am planing to buy the same model. And I bet your tips will be helpful

And through the pictures I saw, I bet it will turn out great.

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Posted by redleg12 on Saturday, June 20, 2009 4:27 PM

E. Jose - I'm glad your are enjoying this build. There will be more information to come so keep an eye on future posts.

Overall it's a good kit but has a few small problems. I hope my posts will keep you from re-learning the quirks and allow you to have a great build. Enjoy and make sure you post it when you start.

Thanks for stopping in and I look forward to see more from you!.....Welcome

Rounds Complete!!

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