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#96: Tamiya Pz II C Polish *Complete PICS p5*
Posted by wbill76 on Friday, June 12, 2009 10:41 PM

Decided to get started on this one tonight, just couldn't wait for tomorrow! #96 is Tamiya's Pz II C Polish Campaign and I will be doing this one largely OOB with the exception of a Lionmarc turned brass KwK 30 2cm barrel and maybe a tool clamp or two. Whole kit is only about 220 parts so I expect this will be a relatively quick build project especially in comparison to some of the more reccent efforts. Wink [;)]

Things began where they usually do in Step 1 with the road wheels and running gear. The drive sprockets had their 4 shallow ejector marks carefully sanded down on the inner face and then the mount posts added. The road wheels were removed from the sprues and the mold seam on the rubber portion sanded down with a sanding twig, then the polycaps and rear inserts added. The idlers were also assembled with the outer rim carefully removed from the sprue to avoid warping/distorting it and glued to the hub using very careful applications of liquid glue around the perimeter to get it to sit nice and even in terms of diameter. It too received a poly cap and styrene cap on the inner side. Last but not least the return rollers were removed and their slight seams also sanded down.

Step 2 started in with the lower hull, adding the suspension arms for each side. Care has to be taken to keep the parts separate as they are not only handed but the final 5th suspension element is subtly different in terms of the spring angle, so I made sure to attach the first four then the final fifth separately to avoid any accidental mix-ups. The slight mold seam on the suspension springs was carefully removed with a sharp #11 blade. The idler mounts were also installed in their fixed position on both sides. The rounded hull nose plate was then installed and it fit perfectly in with the lower hull. Once the glue had set, I installed the final drive housings along with their trapped poly caps for the sprockets.

I went ahead and skipped Step 3 except for the installation of the rear hull plate since the rest of that step installs the various items from Step 1 to the hull.

Step 4 deals with the installation of the link-and-length tracks so was temporarily skipped...I'm going to see if I can still fit the track lengths in with the upper hull installed or not before committing to doing that...more on that later.

Step 5 begins the work with the upper hull. There are a number of holes that need to be opened up from the underside and, using the kit diagram to insure I only opened the ones needed for this variant, this was easily done using a #68 finger drill. Holes needed to be opened on only one fender side but also the underside of the superstructure roof to take the splash guards in Step 6. The inserts for the side air intake as well as the angled hull sponson were added without issue.

Step 6 adds all the panels to the superstructure as well as the splash guards and fender extensions. I removed all the panels and carefully cleaned up their sprue attachment points and opened up the two holes needed on the driver's side panel to take the splash guard for the view port using the same finger drill from before. A test fit of the panels showed that the panels fit well together but that the driver's plate had a slight gap on the superstructure roof as well as the angled butt joint where it mated up with the rear portion of the hull. This gap was small but noticeable, so some very careful use of Squadron white putty was called for along with strategic sanding to avoid damaging the nicely molded on weld bead detail on the edge of the plates. The other plates didn't need any putty work, only some light sanding to blend in their edges to create the seamless look needed.

The splash guards came next and these presented an unexpected problem during clean-up. Due to the way they are attached to the sprue, the attachment point is actually on the base of the part via a little tab. This works well to preserve the fine angled detail but when I removed the tab with sprue cutters, the slight stress was enough to take part of the edge of the delicate angled portion with it...creating a slight gouge in the process. These were repaired with same targeted putty work once the guards were installed to the hull. Finally, the rear fender extensions were added to complete this step.

Step 7 calls for the upper and lower hulls to be joined, so before I commit to that I'm going to have to do some tests with the link-and-length segments first to see what my options are. If the tracks have to fitted now, then some paint work will be required first before I can proceed to that step.

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Posted by Grem56 on Friday, June 12, 2009 10:58 PM

This will be interesting to watch Bill,

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Posted by redleg12 on Saturday, June 13, 2009 6:32 AM

Bill - Hummm...as I see you start #96 I think of horse racing calls...."your in the club house turn"....I know, I have a warped mind!

Off to a "clean" start

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Posted by panzerguy on Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:38 AM
 

   Bill not wasting anytime I see. I'm looking forward to seeing one of your builds done up in the classic panzer grayApprove [^]. You are going that way or do you have a surprise for us?

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:11 PM

Thanks for following along Julian!

Mike, I know exactly what you mean...and believe it or not, the choice of this kit was partly driven by the need to insure I get across the finish line this year...it's already 6 months in after all! Laugh [(-D]

 panzerguy wrote:
Bill not wasting anytime I see. I'm looking forward to seeing one of your builds done up in the classic panzer grayApprove [^]. You are going that way or do you have a surprise for us?

Steve, this one's going to get the ordered scheme of 2/3 Dunklegrau and 1/3 Dunkelbraun since it's a 1939 Polish Campaign vehicle. Wink [;)] If you follow the orders, the "classic" Panzer Gray doesn't come into effect until July 1940. Smile [:)]

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Posted by panzerguy on Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:44 PM
 wbill76 wrote:

Steve, this one's going to get the ordered scheme of 2/3 Dunklegrau and 1/3 Dunkelbraun since it's a 1939 Polish Campaign vehicle. Wink [;)] If you follow the orders, the "classic" Panzer Gray doesn't come into effect until July 1940. Smile [:)]

   Does this mean a two-tone pattern or does this mix mean a darker gray than the later panzer gray?

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Posted by I make stuff on Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:54 PM

Watching with interest, Bill, I learn a lot on every build.  Just think, you are 4 from 100, I am 4 from zero.  At this rate, I'm onnly about 14 years behind you!

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Posted by JMart on Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:11 PM
Bill - as usual thank you for taking the time to write great WIPs. I always read, learn and enjoy them, even if I dont post comments in real time ;) cheers

 

 

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Posted by ps1scw on Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:53 PM
 panzerguy wrote:
 wbill76 wrote:

Steve, this one's going to get the ordered scheme of 2/3 Dunklegrau and 1/3 Dunkelbraun since it's a 1939 Polish Campaign vehicle. Wink [;)] If you follow the orders, the "classic" Panzer Gray doesn't come into effect until July 1940. Smile [:)]

   Does this mean a two-tone pattern or does this mix mean a darker gray than the later panzer gray?

I'd say a dark color gray, with little more than dust for weathering, afterall this was the very beginning of the war, I can't believe these vehicles were anything other than very well kept and maintained.

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:39 PM
 ps1scw wrote:
 panzerguy wrote:
 wbill76 wrote:

Steve, this one's going to get the ordered scheme of 2/3 Dunklegrau and 1/3 Dunkelbraun since it's a 1939 Polish Campaign vehicle. Wink [;)] If you follow the orders, the "classic" Panzer Gray doesn't come into effect until July 1940. Smile [:)]

   Does this mean a two-tone pattern or does this mix mean a darker gray than the later panzer gray?

I'd say a dark color gray, with little more than dust for weathering, afterall this was the very beginning of the war, I can't believe these vehicles were anything other than very well kept and maintained.

The color naming convention on the Nov 1938- July 1940 scheme didn't use the RAL numbering scheme when first ordered, that convention came in later. The colors in the orders were referred to as Nr. 45 Dunkelbraun and Nr. 46 Dunkelgrau and were standard colors. Factory-produced vehicles were to have this scheme in soft-edge before acceptance while in-field vehicles were to be repainted by the respective units. This didn't always happen as there are photos of equipment in the pre-war scheme in the Polish and even the French campaigns out there. The Nr. 46 Dunkelgrau color later received the designation of RAL 7021 and the Dunkelbraun was dropped and didn't receive a RAL number. Nr. 46 Dunkelgrau and RAL 7021 Dunkelgrau (the name panzer gray is a modeler's term and not an official one) are exactly the same colors regardless of timeframe. The pattern I'm using will be a two-tone pattern following the presecribed ratios between the two colors. HTH!

Bill, I like the symmetry! Laugh [(-D]

James, glad to have you along as well. Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:42 PM

Hi Bill, Looking forward to #96 and a panzer II too boot. What a choice, I bought a dragon II not so long ago but its the lack of imagination on my part that is stopping me from getting a start. I just know you will provide some inspirationYeah!! [yeah].

Good luck with this one and I hope there is not as much drama as on the III. I don't know why but I just hate Panzer III's thats just me.

Goodluck,

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:12 PM
Thanks Terry! The Pz III family is near and dear to me but I can understand where others wouldn't find it so appealing. So far this one is coming together very nicely, just a few minor things here and there as with any build. Another update will be forthcoming later tonight. Wink [;)]
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Posted by Panther F on Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:16 PM
I really like the smaller tanks like the 38t series.  Anxious to see more of your build!  Tongue [:P]
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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, June 13, 2009 11:44 PM
Go Bill, go. Go Bill, go. Cool. I saw one recently selling on ebay for pretty cheap, but I had a Dragon one. This should be a fun easy build for you. One color scheme. LOL I expect it done in a week.

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, June 13, 2009 11:54 PM

Thanks Jeff!

 tigerman wrote:
Go Bill, go. Go Bill, go. Cool. I saw one recently selling on ebay for pretty cheap, but I had a Dragon one. This should be a fun easy build for you. One color scheme. LOL I expect it done in a week.

Been a blast, and a week is probably not too far off. Update coming soon...just have to edit the photos from today's efforts. Wink [;)]

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:40 AM

Ever just get in a groove with a build and really get rolling? Today was such a day...probably one of the most productive model-building days I've had in a long time in fact.

Picking up from yesterday, I did a check with the top run of tracks and the clearance with the upper fenders and decided I had enough room to work with once the upper and lower hulls were joined. The test fit also revealed to me just how much of the underside of the fenders would be visible, so I went back and filled and sanded all the ejector marks on the underside as a precaution.

With that out of the way, I proceeded to work on Step 7 and join the upper and lower hulls. The fit here is good but the contact surfaces are not very large, so I used some rubber bands as added insurance to get a solid join all around.

Step 7 calls for the installation of the rear engine access hatch as well as the radio operator's hatch. Curiously the engine hatch actually has latch detail on the underside but since it's molded as one piece, you'd have to cut through that if you wanted to show the hatches open. The detail on the hatch is very good and the gap around the perimeter is supposed to be there just like on the real vehicle. After checking references and realizing that the fenders weren't jointed, I carefully filled the slight gap where the fender extensions met the hull from the previous step and sanded down the edges smooth.

Step 7 also adds the glacis plates and large access hatch for the driver. This fit beautifully and just required a little bit of liquid glue at the front to get the weld seam join to look the part. The correct style of view ports for the C were installed for the driver, these are called out properly on the instructions but are right next to the type for the c, A, or B so a double-check is a good idea to be sure you don't accidentally grab the wrong ones. The one piece tow rope/transmission hatch was also added along with the front tow hooks. The front fenders supports were also installed to complete the step after some ejector marks on their rear surfaces were sanded down.

Step 8 takes care of some sub-assemblies in preparation for later steps. These include the 4 part jack, the spare barrel box and lid, the two front headlights with blackout covers, the two-part antenna tray, the three-part tow hitch, and the 4 part muffler. The antenna holder had some ejector marks on the inner surfaces that I sanded down out of an abundance of caution. The muffler required the most work, with it's seam sanded down and some putty added to fill small gaps on either ends where the armored pipe from the engine and the hollow exhaust pipe installed. 

Step 9 deals primarily with the rear hull plate details. The muffler is installed along with the rear brake light, the tow pintle, and the rear tow eyes. The PE mesh heat shield cover for the muffler was annealed over a gas burner flame and then carefully curved to shape using a Mission Models Multi-tool. The PE, since it's steel, is stiffer to work worth vs. brass so it took several sessions to get it to shape properly. The hull has small cut-outs molded in to take the mount tabs, so getting it into position was easy with no guess work required. The rear fender supports were also installed along with the mud-flaps. The tool box and spare barrels boxes were installed on the right side fender while the jack went on the left. The radio operator's view port was also installed and, unlike the driver's ports, this one is the earlier c/A/B type and not the C type. It's the only option provided so there was no choice there and is a minor thing in the long-run. Last but not least all the tiny little lifting eyes were added to the upper hull. No spares are available so I worked slowly and one at a time to make sure I didn't have any casualties along the way.

Step 10 deals mostly with the fender gear and I was selective in terms of what I installed and what was left off for later. The left side fender received the antenna tray, the fire extinguisher, and the long pry bar but the shovel, axe, and jack block were left off for later. All of the tools on the right fender were also left off and the front headlights were installed. I added the missing wiring conduit using 0.5mm diameter solder cut to shape and carefully glued down with liquid glue as an added detail.

Step 11 deals with assembling the commander's chair and the interior detail for his hatches. Since I'm not posing the hatches open, I skipped this step entirely.

Step 12 deals with the main armament and the first order of business is to install the MG34 and KwK 30 into the interior mantlet. Since the KwK 30 is molded as all one piece, I removed the molded on barrel portion with sprue cutters and sanded it down smooth. A mount hole was drilled with a pin vise and the Lionmarc turned brass barrel installed. The open sighting view ports were also added to the mantlet along with the circular elevation parts, the elevation parts are not glued. Only one of these receives a poly cap and the result is a very snug, but still movable, fit while the other just fits loosely on the other side elevation pin.

Next was the addition of the external mantlet plate which also serves as the turret front plate. This has to be carefully installed by getting small D-shaped tabs to align with the elevation parts.

The other half of this step is the assembly of the turret itself. The top and bottom halves were joined using a combination of regular and liquid glue and allowed to set up. The splash guard for the commander's hatches and the signal port cover were also added.

The step is completed with the installation of the mantlet and guns into the turret proper. I used a careful combination of liquid glue and regular glue, making sure that the guns could remain movable throughout. Some slight finger pressure was needed in a couple spots but otherwise a very snug fit. The main open sight hatch kept popping loose on me so I decided to pose it in the open position since that gave a larger glue surface. It also has the added benefit of the feel that the vehicle is "crewed" since most of the other hatches aside from the commander's hatch don't have any interior detail and have to be posed closed as a result.

Step 14 deals with the installation of the commander's hatches and the remaining side vision ports. The turret lifting eyes were also added. I also added some weld texture to the missing areas on the angled lower turret plates by carefully scoring the plastic with the tip of a sharp #11 blade. I then came back and sanded it down to make it smaller and more regular...the photo makes the area look a little more pronounced than it actually is.

Step 15 calls for the installation of the turret into the hull as well as the addition of the rear rhomboid number plate. This was added using a drop of CA gel and some liquid glue. I also added an Armorscale 2m brass antenna (trimmed down to fit the 1.4m antenna tray) by removing the stub in the mast and drilling out a small hole and gluing it in place with CA gel. The mast was then installed to the hull side in the down position.

Incredibly as it sounds...this one's now ready for painting!

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:40 AM

Bill - "Holy excrement Batman" you are ready for painting already!! You are getting like the Blues Brothers...."your on a mission from God". Your becoming your own group build, "making 100 GB"

Nice work on the little guy. Also nice work on the documentation

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, June 14, 2009 6:08 AM

Missed this oneConfused [%-)]  Bit I am here nowBig Smile [:D]

As I was scrolling down I was sure the last post was this all painted already at the rate it was going.  So let's see some paint there big guy!!!

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, June 14, 2009 10:50 AM

Mike, thanks as always! Definitely felt like I was on a mission yesterday...time flew by and I enjoyed every minute of it. It was a rare combination these days!

Marc, it's like one of those small towns on the Interstate, if you blink you'll miss it! This one has definitely moved faster than the "normal" build...and I guaratee you will see paint by the end of the day today, just be sure to watch for it or you'll miss it again! Wink [;)]

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Posted by Gun Tech on Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:14 AM
Nicely done Bill. I've been wanting to see one of these done for a little while now. Beautiful subject, can't wait to see some paint on it!

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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:06 PM

I saw the first post but had no time to post anything, and now this little baby is nearly done. Wow Bill your quick.

OK, this #96, what I'd like to know is what will 100 be???? Any clue yet or is it top secret!! I'd say it has to be something special, like say a WRECK Whistling [:-^]

She's looking good Bill, looking forward to the camo scheme, you rarely see the early war schemes be applied. I'll try not to blink or I might see a new post, #97.

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:42 PM

Thanks JeanMichel!

 scratchmod wrote:
OK, this #96, what I'd like to know is what will 100 be???? Any clue yet or is it top secret!! I'd say it has to be something special, like say a WRECK Whistling [:-^]

She's looking good Bill, looking forward to the camo scheme, you rarely see the early war schemes be applied. I'll try not to blink or I might see a new post, #97.

Rob, no clue on what #100 might be...since it's 3 kits down the road that I would have to finish first, that could easily be 12-18 weeks away (can't take #96 as a base case for how the rest will go!). I don't plan that far ahead! The early war schemes are indeed not often seen but more of them are starting to pop up here and there now that it's been clearly documented that's what the ordered schemes were. The entrenched "panzer gray" only will die hard though...even the Tamiya finishing instructions on a brand new kit from 2008 still calls for the straight panzer gray scheme. Wink [;)]

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Posted by ps1scw on Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:54 PM
 wbill76 wrote:

Thanks JeanMichel!

 scratchmod wrote:
OK, this #96, what I'd like to know is what will 100 be???? Any clue yet or is it top secret!! I'd say it has to be something special, like say a WRECK Whistling [:-^]

She's looking good Bill, looking forward to the camo scheme, you rarely see the early war schemes be applied. I'll try not to blink or I might see a new post, #97.

Rob, no clue on what #100 might be...since it's 3 kits down the road that I would have to finish first, that could easily be 12-18 weeks away (can't take #96 as a base case for how the rest will go!). I don't plan that far ahead! The early war schemes are indeed not often seen but more of them are starting to pop up here and there now that it's been clearly documented that's what the ordered schemes were. The entrenched "panzer gray" only will die hard though...even the Tamiya finishing instructions on a brand new kit from 2008 still calls for the straight panzer gray scheme. Wink [;)]

hard to see the brown

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Posted by panzerguy on Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:26 PM

   Ready for paint in one weekendShock [:O]! At this rate you'll be passing one hundred well before the end of the yearWink [;)]. Can't wait to see this with paint Bill. I've got a Pnz II D that will be hitting the bench soon and this will be a big help when it comes time for painting.

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:45 PM

ps1, yep and that's why many are still convinced that some vehicles were painted in straight panzer gray even though there's no documentation or orders to support that before July 1940. The scheme prior to the 2-tone was a 3-tone scheme...so vehicles that hadn't received the repaint would've had a 3-tone scheme and not a straight panzer gray scenario. Vehicles from the factory were painted prior to acceptance by the Waffenamt with the two-tone, so there's no foundation for them only doing panzer gray and leaving off the brown. The two colors have a very low contrast relative to each other and all it takes is a little bit of dust and poor lighting and they can vanish in a color photo...nevermind in a b/w. The scheme is gaining wider acceptance slowly but surely though...kind of the same was as the DAK schemes in that regard.

Steve, I did make a New Year's resolution to pass 100 this year...and I'm a little behind schedule. It's all Marc's (dupes) fault, he's the one that took a magnifying glass to my finished builds list and discovered the count was off by one. Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:24 PM
Wink [;)]
 wbill76 wrote:

I guaratee you will see paint by the end of the day today, just be sure to watch for it or you'll miss it again! Wink [;)]

 

So wht is your definition of end of day?  My glass of grand Marnier in nearly empty, I just put the lest of the wood intp the chimnea, the cigar cigar is just a nub and i have 8% left on the battery for the laptop.  My day is done and i don't see any paintAngry [:(!]

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:37 PM

Marc, that's why your laptop has a power cord! Propeller [8-] I'm on Mountain time so end of the day for me is right about....now!  

Weather was perfect for painting today, so the first order of business was the usual prep. The turret was separated from the hull and mounted on a cardboard tube with strips of blue painter's tape for easier handling of both the turret and the hull. The road wheels, idlers, and return rollers were mounted on toothpicks with only the return rollers needing some blue tack putty to hold them in place since the others had the poly caps.

Everything was primed using Model Master enamel Italian Dark Brown. This was particularly helpful since the Tamiya plastic is already dark gray to insure that all the plastic surfaces were painted before applying the base coat. The base coat of Panzer Schwarzgrau was then added in multiple passes to build it up over the primer coat.

The next step applied some highlights and variation in the form of about an 80/20 mix of Panzer Schwarzgrau/Light Gray in a reverse shading pattern. Some of the areas were going to be covered with the camo pattern but that's ok, the idea was to get the gray areas looking the way I wanted to first.

Since the ordered scheme in effect at the time of the Polish campaign called for a 2/3 Dunkelgrau 1/3 Dunkelbraun scheme, I used Model Master enamel Panzer Schokoladenbraun as the Dunkelbraun and applied it freehand. I tried to break up the pattern a bit and also adhere to the required ratio even though the temptation was there to go 50-50. Given the overall size of the vehicle, it was a balancing act and I worked slowly and deliberately since the Tamiya instructions were no help at all in terms of the pattern.

The road wheels were also painted at this stage in preparation for mounting. They were also primered with the Italian Dark Brown and then the rubber portions painted using enamel Gunmetal and then the hubs painted using a circle template. In the 2/3-1/3 spirit, I painted 6 in Dunkelgrau and 4 in Dunkelbraun. The return rollers also had their hubs painted using the same method.

This will sit now until next weekend and then it's on to the tracks and other remaining details.

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Posted by Grem56 on Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:25 PM

Interesting combination, brown/grey. Looks good Bill, must try that myself.

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, June 15, 2009 12:38 AM

Paint looks great Bill but I have to admit I had never heard of that particular paint scheme.

Was it very common?

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, June 15, 2009 5:18 AM

OK...I know Marc was pressing you but....you quit early last night!

Nice work on the shading......very strange color combo

Rounds Complete!!

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