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Build Complete #9 Cyber-Hobby Orange Box Sherman M4A4 75mm WIP

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Posted by model maniac 96 on Friday, October 16, 2009 11:55 PM
Oh and by the way congratulations on reaching one thousand posts!!


Thanks, Jim
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Posted by model maniac 96 on Friday, October 16, 2009 11:51 PM
Wow, that is just amazing, I love it so much! your stowage is really sweet, I am sorry I have not been keeping up with this build as much as I would like to, I have been really busy lately.






Thanks, Jim
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Posted by Schnobs on Friday, October 16, 2009 9:24 PM

Thanks Buddy!

I have seen lots of stowage at shows and on the net that are pieces of art unto themselves with all the highlights and shadows but I wanted to portray realistic stowage without it looking like a piece of art.

LOl!  I hope I am improving I started at ground zero last December. I had only painted 1:1 scale walls with latex paint before this.  It has been one huge learning curve. I am painting the road wheels by hand on the Sherman I sure miss German wheels and the draftsmen template but I think it will be all worth it in the end.

Glad to hear you like my WIP's it would be lonely without you guys!  I had patience going into this but I hear you.  I have a son that will be two years old in December and that is like having a Boweling Alley in your head so I welcome the peace and solace of painting and detailing!

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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Posted by scratchmod on Friday, October 16, 2009 9:06 PM

yep this is coming along nicely Edmund. The extra stowage on the turret looks sharp,I really like the pair of boots hanging there.

I don't think I would have had the paitience for the resin tools, they would have ended up in the circular file LOL.

 

Man have your building and painting skills come along in the past 6 months. I enjoy following your builds as much as Bills. Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Rob

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Posted by Schnobs on Friday, October 16, 2009 2:15 PM
 hughes2682 wrote:

Edmund,

Lace holes? How did I miss that?

It is as I had feared.  Your OCD has progressed to the terminal stage. Laugh [(-D]

Cheers

Dave

Yes I am uncureable!  I like your picture stash Dave mine is growing as well.

 Bodge wrote:
Edmund this is lookin very nice my friend.

Thanks Andy I have been doing my research that's for sure. I was able to mount both the A and B Type antenna's.  The A antenna is .69 inches and the B antenna is 2.75 inches or 8 feet in 1\35th world. 

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Posted by Bodge on Friday, October 16, 2009 12:20 PM
Edmund this is lookin very nice my friend.
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Posted by hughes2682 on Friday, October 16, 2009 10:55 AM

Edmund,

Lace holes? How did I miss that?

It is as I had feared.  Your OCD has progressed to the terminal stage. Laugh [(-D]

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:50 PM

Thanks Bill,

Yes those are lace holes and boot laces are used to tie into the leather straps. I used Vallejo Oily Steel to dry Brush wear and tear around the TC's hatch.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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Posted by I make stuff on Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:10 PM

Nice snaps, Ed, your photography is excellent.

The turret is coming along to put it mildly.  Stowage is crazy detailed, are those lace holes in the boots?  The painting is very good, I like the subtle varieties of green and tan that are the soldier's world.  I like your approach as we discussed earlier.

What's the wear around the commander's hatch, colorwise?  It looks REAL.  I expected that from you, I just need to know how you did it so I can "borrow" it. 

Bill

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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:00 PM
 M1Carbine wrote:

Ed looks great man. keep the pics coming.  Love what you got so far.

Bob

Thanks Bob you wish is my command.  I finished painting and mounting all the turret stowage today. All I have left on the turret is to mount both antennas which I will tackle next.

All the turret stowage would of been mounted to the sides of the turret by footman handholds which next time I will actually scratchbuild and use lead foil for straps.

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Posted by M1Carbine on Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:02 PM

Ed looks great man. keep the pics coming.  Love what you got so far.

 

Bob

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Posted by ShermieBeek on Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:31 PM

Actually, the helmets  are fine.  Close examination reveals that the helmets are not US M1 helmets, but are in fact Commonwealth AFV helmets.  This style was similar to the paratroop helmet, but was shaped to allow the use of AFV crew headsets beneath it.

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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:18 PM
Thansk Bill I am working on painting the remaining turret stowage as I type.  Congrats on your figure it turned out awesome and good luck on your first show on Saturday!
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:17 PM

Hey Michael!

You would have to take any innacuracy claims to Resi Cast as the item is marketed as UK Commonwealth tank accessories and I just slapped paint on it. Smile [:)]  I like how it turned out though.

Thanks for commenting.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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Posted by I make stuff on Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:56 AM

Hi Edmund,

The stowage is looking very fine, this whole project is shaping up to be a stunner.  I can't wait to see your toot about the tracks, this is a very informative build.

Bill

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:53 AM
 Schnobs wrote:
 hughes2682 wrote:

Edmund,

Bummer about the tracks.Boohoo [BH]  Waiting to hear how you like the Panda tracks.  I've got a few of Dragons Shermans with the DS..... now viewing the tracks in those kits with a jaded eye.

This build is looking absolutely exquisite!  Thumbs Up [tup]  And to think I got to see all of these parts in their infancy at McMinnville.  Pretty cool to see this start from that stage.

Cheers

Dave

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the support Sir. I decied to to focus on getting the turret completed while I am waiting for the Panda Tracks I ordered today to arrive so I started by painting the molded resin stowage on the rear turret box.  I used Vallejo paints for the details and oil washes to ouline and blend.  I also primed the remaining turret stowage that iIwill paint and mount tomorrow.

Here is some before and after pics:

 

BTW as for the stowage the helmet on the turret stowage is wrong for a Canadian tank the Canadians used the same helmets that the british used. Americans used the M1 steel helmet and the helmets used by Great Britain Canada and Australia were similar to the steel helmets used by the US during the early part of WWII.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

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Posted by Schnobs on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:02 PM
 hughes2682 wrote:

Edmund,

Bummer about the tracks.Boohoo [BH]  Waiting to hear how you like the Panda tracks.  I've got a few of Dragons Shermans with the DS..... now viewing the tracks in those kits with a jaded eye.

This build is looking absolutely exquisite!  Thumbs Up [tup]  And to think I got to see all of these parts in their infancy at McMinnville.  Pretty cool to see this start from that stage.

Cheers

Dave

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the support Sir. I decied to to focus on getting the turret completed while I am waiting for the Panda Tracks I ordered today to arrive so I started by painting the molded resin stowage on the rear turret box.  I used Vallejo paints for the details and oil washes to ouline and blend.  I also primed the remaining turret stowage that iIwill paint and mount tomorrow.

Here is some before and after pics:

 

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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  • From: Eugene, Oregon
Posted by hughes2682 on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:41 PM

Edmund,

Bummer about the tracks.Boohoo [BH]  Waiting to hear how you like the Panda tracks.  I've got a few of Dragons Shermans with the DS..... now viewing the tracks in those kits with a jaded eye.

This build is looking absolutely exquisite!  Thumbs Up [tup]  And to think I got to see all of these parts in their infancy at McMinnville.  Pretty cool to see this start from that stage.

Cheers

Dave

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With enough thrust, pigs fly just fine.

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Posted by Schnobs on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:51 PM
 the doog wrote:

Oh man, Edmund--shorten, definitely! They are too long, for sure! What a bummer! Sigh [sigh]

This makes me see red, actually. Angry [:(!] There is just no excuse for this kind of egregious, amateur error by Dragon! I mean, I don't know how you're going to shorten and then glue/stitch those tracks together in a satisfying way without having a very evident seam?

I'd deep-six these turkeys and find a set of AM tracks for it!

Makes me even more resolute NOT to purchase any Dragon kits with DS tracks, unless they're on vehicles like a modern MBT where the skirts hide the junction! SoapBox [soapbox]

P.S. Save yourself the headache--use the kit tools, Those resin ones will not have any significant benefit, and to be honest, you'll probably break at least two or three trying to remove them from the block.

Hey Karl,

I respect your opinion on DS tracks Sir and my Sherman expert agreed with the concensus so I ordered a set of Panda Plastics T-62 Steel Chevron tracks for $21.95 plus postage.

Here's the link if anyone is interested:  http://shermantracks.com/

I have broken two of the resin tools so far but I am a Pig in the Ham and Egg Breakfast.  The Pig is comitted and the chicken is involved.  I have come this far so I will finish what I started but agreed they are a hassle but at the end we can determine together whether its worth the effort.  The shovel is freaking gorgeous compared to the kit part.  I will post pictures once I get them painted and mounted.

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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Posted by dupes on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:37 PM

Schnobs - did I get in on this guy too late or what?

Really sweet build...but those tools look like a chore and a half. Are they really that much better than kit (or other sourced) tools to justify the extra work cutting them out?

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:27 PM

Oh man, Edmund--shorten, definitely! They are too long, for sure! What a bummer! Sigh [sigh]

This makes me see red, actually. Angry [:(!] There is just no excuse for this kind of egregious, amateur error by Dragon! I mean, I don't know how you're going to shorten and then glue/stitch those tracks together in a satisfying way without having a very evident seam?

I'd deep-six these turkeys and find a set of AM tracks for it!

Makes me even more resolute NOT to purchase any Dragon kits with DS tracks, unless they're on vehicles like a modern MBT where the skirts hide the junction! SoapBox [soapbox]

P.S. Save yourself the headache--use the kit tools, Those resin ones will not have any significant benefit, and to be honest, you'll probably break at least two or three trying to remove them from the block.

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Posted by Schnobs on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:53 AM

Sanity Check:

I have read some posts about thaving to shorten DS tracks and one of you fine chaps made me aware earlier in this thread that my tracks might need to be shortened.

I mounted the tracks before painting to get your collective opinion.  I don't see that I would need to but I admit I have limited experience with Shermans so I w ill leave to you.

Shorten or not to Shorten that is the question gentleman.

 

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Posted by Schnobs on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:57 AM

Thanks for the extra pair of eyes Bill I wil llook for that.

I am going to try to get some serious traction tomorrow!

 

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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Posted by I make stuff on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:26 AM

This is looking better each time I check in, now that you are healthy.

I hate to rivet count your photod, but in the turret close up, it looks like your brush shed a bristle between the commandet's hatch and that vent fitting, my oil wash brushes do that all the time, you should be able to fish it off there befre it dries.

Other than that, looks fine from every angle.

Keep it up, continue to march!

Bill 

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Posted by Schnobs on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:05 AM

Mischief [:-,]

 Svenne Duva wrote:
Congratulations on your very nice build Schnobs, this is just getting better and better!

Looking forward to your next post :)

Svenne

Thank you Svenne for the kind comments!  I am glad you are on board for the build.

 BeltFed wrote:
You could try to lessen the thickness of the blocks by cutting them in half with a razor saw and then sand the remaining block until its wafer thin.  Then go back with a knife and trim it all up.  Just a suggestion.

Hey Jon,

I went with cutting out each segment and I have only broke one tool so far. Smile [:)]

 figure freak wrote:
NICE, and i would just use the kit parts

Thanks Brian!  Yes I wll probally use a combination of both the styrene and resin parts.

 agentg wrote:
FREAKIN' SWEET!!!

Freakin Thank You Wayne! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 disastermaster wrote:
Better, better & better...........................

And Better and Freakin Better !

Mischief [:-,]

Thanks Steve!

 M1Carbine wrote:

Ed, the sherm is looking great brother.  Cutting the tools out is going to be a challenge but you can handle it trooper.

Bob

Thanks Bob!

Well I got some serious base weathering completed tonight and started the mapping process on the turret and hull.  I applied a number of Oil Dot fading applications and then a pin wash to get this party started!  It did settle down the decals for me and provided a nice base for the festivities to come.  I have a lot of mapping planned so stay tunned.

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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:08 PM

Ed, the sherm is looking great brother.  Cutting the tools out is going to be a challenge but you can handle it trooper.

 

Bob

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:24 PM
Better, better & better...........................

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by figure freak on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:35 PM
NICE, and i would just use the kit parts
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Posted by BeltFed on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:01 PM
You could try to lessen the thickness of the blocks by cutting them in half with a razor saw and then sand the remaining block until its wafer thin.  Then go back with a knife and trim it all up.  Just a suggestion.
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Posted by Svenne Duva on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:52 PM
Congratulations on your very nice build Schnobs, this is just getting better and better!

Looking forward to your next post :)

Svenne

sic transit gloria mundi

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