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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:18 PM

SMJ - I know...isn't it a sweet scheme?

Please do poke around some more - I'm going to need some bright idea as to how to effectively weather this thing. Figured you might have a couple! I'll be calling before too long to hear what you think.

Deafpanzer - I haven't decided who to root for yet. Ideally my preferred S-Bowl matchup would have been Jets/Vikes (first rookie QB vs oldest QB ever), but things didn't quite turn out that way! All I know is that it's going to be a serious shootout...what's the highest scoring Superbowl ever?

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:57 AM

dupes

Please do poke around some more - I'm going to need some bright idea as to how to effectively weather this thing. Figured you might have a couple! I'll be calling before too long to hear what you think.

dupes: BOY DO I EVER !!!:  I'm so friggin' jealous this isn't my work that I had planned on flying up to Maine, put on my Ninja suit, fight-off the moose on your driveway, kidnap your model, and finish her on MY workbench.

Seriously man, give me a call soon! Little preview:  DILUTED OIL WASHES...FEEL the washes dupes...BE the washes...

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Posted by dupes on Thursday, January 28, 2010 11:20 AM

Haaaaaaaaahahhahaaaaa...I just laughed in a customer's ear as I was trying to load this thread while on the phone. That's one of the funniest things I've read in a loooong time!

Big SmileStick out tongue

(imagine I had inserted 3 of the old-forum laughing smilies in a row)

I'll be calling you sometime shortly to hear your advice on the weathering. Now if I could just get The Doog in on this one as well...Doog? You out there?

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Thursday, January 28, 2010 11:27 AM

dupes: I'm glad I made laugh, I hope your client wasn't thinking you were laughing at them.

No way doogs going to see this in the GB, you could hope he's following this thread, but I'd shoot him a PM if you're really trying to reach him.

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Posted by p38jl on Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:08 PM

Dupes + SMJ + 1 Vulcan... Vulcan Mind Meld... can it be done in the FSM Forums.. tune in Next week..

( key old school Star Trek Theme...) bodly go where no glue sniffer has gone before..Devil <-- best Vulcan??

Marc: maybe a few light brown washes, or an ochre one.. very subtle, it doens't look to dirty in your pic..

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Posted by dupes on Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:19 PM

Yeah, I know whatever it is is going to be light. Don't want to overpower the circles too much. Need to just get to the level of "operational use", and then cake a bunch of snow on there.

I'm not worried...SMJ being the weathering master will figure something out. Wink

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Posted by hughes2682 on Thursday, January 28, 2010 5:23 PM

I like the camo scheme.  You've pulled it of wonderfully.  Looking forward to seeing it weathered.

Cheers

Dave

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With enough thrust, pigs fly just fine.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Friday, January 29, 2010 7:50 AM

Marc

I've been thinking of your weathering dillema and, while I know I don't carry the weathering chops of SMJ, I've got some recommendations.  As SMJ already said - really thin oil washes.  And I'm thinking in some dingy greys at first.  That'll give it a dingy look, but one that is consistent in tone with the white, so it won't alter or overpower it. 

Then, it is on to the pin washes, my friend.  That is where I'd use the ochers and umbers, etc....

That is probably how I'd approach it...

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by panzer88 on Friday, January 29, 2010 8:10 AM

Looking awesome Dupes. It's nice to see something a little different here. You don't see as much modern stuff and one with such a cool camo pattern. Makes me want to break out one my modern kits. Looking forward to the next update.

     

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Posted by mm23t on Friday, January 29, 2010 1:26 PM

Marc, one heck of a job you've done!Yes Now if I can quit seeing so many spots before my eyes.Blind Fold

Medals are not "Won", they are "Earned".

Mike..

 

 

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Posted by dupes on Friday, January 29, 2010 3:31 PM

Hey, thanks a lot you guys!

I'm just about done with all the detail painting, and have taken the first stabs at making the sheets/tarps thingies using tissue paper.. Now I feel myself procrastinating a bit, as I'm a bit worried about making some sort of colossal weathering error and killing the whole build. Embarrassed

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Posted by dupes on Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:56 PM

Came to town completely unprepared...can't drag pics to my laptop directly from my memory card. Needed to edit them at home first. Looks like the update will have to wait until Monday.

See you then!

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Posted by bbrowniii on Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:43 PM

dupes

Looks like the update will have to wait until Monday.

Surprise

Monday??!!!  That's... that's... that's like 48 hours from now!!!  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!Crying

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by Rafhart on Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:26 PM

Nice tank :)

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Posted by hughes2682 on Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:23 PM

Dupes,

There are no errors.  Only creation by mistake. It's helped me from lobing some builds across the garage.

Cheers

Dave

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With enough thrust, pigs fly just fine.

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:21 PM

Good call on the stencil-job, Marc! Sorry I'm getting around so late to checking in on this great looking build!

The tank looks fantastic!

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:03 AM

Marc - Don't forget to head to Home Depot and get the small tub of sheetrock taping compound for the chunky snow. Check back at my M40 thread and see I used it two different ways.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Monday, February 1, 2010 11:02 AM

Mr.Leg - I haven't gotten to the snow yet, but I'll certainly be looking into the sheetrock compound. It's either going to be that, or Karl's method from the Snow-Kitchen dio.

Update shortly.

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Posted by dupes on Monday, February 1, 2010 11:33 AM

Alright, got a few things to look at here. Still messing around with final detailing type stuff before I head into the weathering stage (thanks for all of the input with that - hopefully it will work out!).

First up I addressed the new ID plates that were mounted on the vehicle. Same sort of deal, got the size right by comparing it to the blown up photo. Ripped a piece of sheet styrene down to approximately half an inch, then cut four pieces down to size. Had a set of random number/letter stickers in the decal stash that appeared to be about the right size, seen here:

Took them down to the basement and sprayed some gray rattle can just for time-saving purposes. Unfortunately the paint bled under the masks a bit, so I'm going to flip them over, apply new numbers, and airbrush them.

Moved on to the tarpage - tissue paper seems to be the answer here. Readily available, pretty easy to work with. Have some waxed linen cord (no threads!) to wrap it that seems to be just about the right scale.

Question for you guys - can you paint tissue paper before soaking it with diluted white glue to get it in place? Or do you have to glue first, paint later? Thinking I may have to tie the paper down, glue, untie after it dries, paint, then re-tie the cord. Does this make sense?

Final pic of the day - decided to spruce up the MG a bit - there's a large shell-catching bin located underneath which a) looked pretty lonely with nothing in it and b) has a huge ejector mark at the bottom if one decides to go looking. Took some .020" brass rod and sliced it into a ton of approximately 1/8" slices which appear to be just about the right size for spent shells. Will fill the bin, and should have a few left over to scatter into some nooks and crannies on the top of the vehicle if I decide that might be prudent.

That's it for today. All comments readily accepted! Big Smile

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Posted by the doog on Monday, February 1, 2010 12:31 PM

Marc, as far as the tissue paper; I'd take about 4-6 sheets, dab on water first with a paintbrush then cut it to a general size and shape. Then add some slightly diluted Elmer's glue with a wide, soft paint brush onto the flat square of wet tissue. Wrap that around the barrel and tie. You'll have to paint it in place.The dried glue will reduce the porousness of the tissue fibers and allow it to take paint.

That's how I normally work with tissue rolls and things involving tissue. It's a messy process, but seems to work well.

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Posted by p38jl on Monday, February 1, 2010 1:00 PM

MARC: tarp on the barrel looks good..

As for painting the tissue paper, a couple of things can be done.. First.. after the dilutted glue solution has dried and your tarp is postioned.. you should be able to paint it with most anything.. Just avoid lots of paint at once to prevent the glue from rewetting..

2nd.. you can color your glue sollution with acryilic paint , use the color you want or combinations, just add some drops of the color to the glue solution... soak your tissue, it will soak up the color, apply it where you need ,  and it will dry that way.. It may be a bit softer in color after it dries, but then you can touch it up..

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, February 1, 2010 3:09 PM

dupes

 

Took them down to the basement and sprayed some gray rattle can just for time-saving purposes. Unfortunately the paint bled under the masks a bit, so I'm going to flip them over, apply new numbers, and airbrush them.

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Marc,

I gotta tell ya, looking at those placards, I don't see any reason not to use them.  From your pic, it does not look like the paint bleeding under the mask is too bad.  I can assure you, when we made those number placs for our vehicles, they were simply a piece of wood painted with a stencil set, so there was plenty of bleeding through.  I think they look fine.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, February 1, 2010 7:48 PM

That is one COOL camo scheme Marc, turned out great.

As for the tissue paper, I usually add some paint to the white glue, this give you a base to paint and weather.

I like the added detail to the gun.

 

Rob

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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 10:34 AM

Hey Rob, thanks a lot! I just checked out your website, btw...niiiiice! Cool

Boyd - thanks for the encouragement - turns out I had to fire up the airbrush anyway, realized when I was looking at the pics again last night that there needs to be a 5th placard on the back of the stowage bin, so I was one short. Ended up just doing the whole batch again.

Looks like it's tarp night tonight. Does the excess whiteglue mixture leave a nasty residue on already-painted parts? Just wondering if I need to mask off either end of the barrel (as well as parts of the turret).

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 10:57 AM

Marc: if your using a decent brand and it's white glue, it shouldn't leave a residue , it should dry clear like Micro Mark's canopy glue. Sometimes, if you have a drip, it may have a whiteness to it.. also if you color your solution with paint, the residue will have that color.. I'd use a clean brush with fresh water to clean up any drips or sags,,etc.. you should be fine.

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 12:39 PM

dupes:  PM inbound...if I can figure out how..

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Posted by IBuild148 on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 8:31 PM

dupes,

Been watching since you started............NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Bow Down

IBuildOne48

Teach modeling to youth!

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Posted by dupes on Thursday, February 4, 2010 8:19 AM

AgentG, Ibuild - thanks fellas! Big Smile

Still trucking along on this monster. Tarps have been started, more stowage is still going on. Hoping to get to the weathering phase very shortly. Will put a pic up soon. Yes

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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 8:18 AM

Quick mock-up of the final product for pic purposes:

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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 12:20 PM

Obviously there's a bit more work to do. The tarps have to be painted white first off, then I can start in on the weathering. Gray filter first to tone everything down, a lot of green drybrushing on the upper surfaces to wear some of the white off. Black/brown pin wash in the appropriate areas.

After the majority of the weathering is done, I can decide on the final placement of all the stowage, attach the MV lens headlights, and then start in on the snow. All of the red/blue confetti windows will be added at that point. Then it's optional stuff like figures and a full base (which I think I should do).

Am I missing anything?

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