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1/35 M561 Gamma Goat, WIP, 09/19/10, Weathering

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Posted by tlivancso on Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:55 AM

Mike,

Awesome build can not wait to see it live and in person.

Catch up with you tonight at the hotel.

 

Cheers, Thom

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:40 PM

My god is that really the wing nut......down from the mountain top....Wink

The M561 Gama Goat was for light troops especially the airborne.....most in view in the 70s and 80s. A strange vehicle from my past!!

Thanks for stopping by and for the comments. See you this weekend at AMPS East

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:59 PM

Hiya Mike.  been so long I don't even know if i even caught part of this build.  Doesn't look familiar.  But it does look great.

Marc  

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:41 AM

Andy - Thanks, I am glad you are enjoying and learning....that is a big part of this forum....Glad to have helped in any way. Thanks for the comments

Stick - Thanks, Ahhhh 2/320 FA.....the "Balls of the Eagle" with the 101st. Thanks for the comments!!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:47 AM

Redleg that looks superb! If one of my old buddy's saw that he would want it. You have it in his unit's markings even... 2/320 PFAYes

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, September 20, 2010 10:49 PM

Outstanding work on your goat! Yes Now you have one for your little farm!  Before I joined the forums, I knew little about artillery and modern vehicles except for WW2 BUT I have been catching up pretty fast.  Thanks to you and others....

Andy

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, September 20, 2010 8:28 PM

Bill - Thanks...always a welcome guest....as far as details....now all I need is one of my old Army licenses showing the M561 series as one of my qualifed vehicles. thanks for stopping by Wink

Steve - No matter what you always brighten up my day!!!. Thanks for the comments and the great picture.....reminds me...Halloween is coming!!

Thanks Guys

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, September 20, 2010 6:58 PM

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w226/redleg12/M56143.jpg

The little things like this ⬆are, well; like this...........  ⬇

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Maybe not noticed at first but just brilliant.

This model is beautiful.

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, September 20, 2010 5:16 PM

Very nice work on this one Mike, as usual all the little details you add really bring it to life. Yes

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, September 20, 2010 12:56 PM

Steve - Thanks....the fun part of the chain was not loosing the key......That and the noise as it banged around the floor pan...Surprise    Looking forward to seeing you this weekend!!

Kevin - Thanks....I said I used Dried Mud....not SandConfused...LOL...    It is always fun to build something from the past that you lived!!

Tony - Thanks.....ahhh, the lens secret.....paint the lens area with Alclad Aluminum or a shiny metallic. After it is dry I use Tamiya Clear Orange. I do not thin the jar and these Tamiya clear colors are thick. I carefully apply them to the lens starting in the middle and "pushing" it to the edges. I leave it as a "thick" coat of paint.

Let dry at least a day and you have a clear amber lens with a reflective background!! TADA!!

Works great for me!

Thanks guys

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Posted by tonka on Monday, September 20, 2010 12:21 PM

Mike, Happy Anniversary to you and yours!   Cake

great job on the Goat, only one issue I see, the TAC markings are not USMC,, I am sure this was just a slight oversight on your part! Stick out tongue

Seriously the deatil is great and the chain and padlock were a great touch. I can smell the fues and feel the vibration ! Yes

Kevin

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Monday, September 20, 2010 12:19 PM

Chain it down? Must be a rough neighborhood there bro. You've done a lot of neat ticks on this but the thing that just jumped out at me was the amber color of those lights,perfect.

10 years of dating huh. One thing I found out after all the years i've had mine is once they hang their stuff in the closet it's hard to get rid of them.Wink

Congrates my friends

Tony LeeSmile

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Posted by panzerguy on Monday, September 20, 2010 11:50 AM

  Mike I freaking love it!  You've done one heck of a job on this one and can't wait to see it in person.

Great touch adding that chain on the steering wheel. The military's version of the 'club' Wink

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, September 20, 2010 10:42 AM

Gino - Thanks for stopping by and for the comments and congrats....you know she appreciates it!!

Nate - Thanks for stopping by and for the comments.

Kevin - Thanks for the comments. We will miss you this week!! As for the little lady....yep she is truly something special to deal with me this long Surprise    Thanks again

Karl - Always a pleasue to have you stop by. Thanks for the comments. Yes.....the base will get a little more "stuff" added. It has testure and is coated in MIG Dried Mud. I need to add some rocks and odd grass for some dimension. .......It's coming!!

Varnishe plaque surface.....Ick! not me....on the other have, scenery is not one of my strengths!!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by the doog on Monday, September 20, 2010 9:59 AM

Outstanding work once again, Mike! This is one cool little bugger. That canvas top turned out great!

Nice WIP on an obscure subject! Just don't you dare leave this baby on a plain, varnished wood plaque! lol Surprise...Wink

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Posted by minimortar on Monday, September 20, 2010 9:31 AM

Deliciously outstanding there Mike!!! Love the canvas cover but the chain and padlock made me chuckle!  Nice touch that you never see in 35th scale (or any scale for that matter!)  and once again, you've caused another flashback to another time and place.

Happy anniversary too!!! I don't know how she's done it but she must be one fine woman! (I've got me one of them too!)

Have a good show this week!!!

 

Thanks,
Kevin Keefe

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Monday, September 20, 2010 8:37 AM

Looks great Mike.Yes That is so ugly, it's cool looking!Big Smile Congrats on your anniversaryBeer

Nate.

 

 

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, September 20, 2010 6:10 AM

The Goat looks great.  Good job on it.  Happy Anniversary as well.

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, September 20, 2010 5:35 AM

Pawel - Thanks for stopping by and for the comments

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, September 20, 2010 4:25 AM

Oh yeah Mike, that's a really nice machine! Maybe I'll build one myself some day. Great job on this one, have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:35 PM

Well  yesterday was my 28 wedding anniversary and really it is 38 as my better half and I went out for 10 years before getting married. The festivities slowed down bench time but not totally!!.

In order to cover the rear trailer section, I created a canvas. Using some airplane tissue, I measure and cut the canvas from the tissue leaving some excess for the edges. Next, creating small folds at each edge, I cut sections of ship rigging as the rope and filled the folds which were then sealed using landscape cement.

While that was drying I cut the front drape canvas from the tissue and applied it using landscape cement. With the front drape in place, I began installing the main canvas using landscape cement and working it down onto the bows. Once on the last work was the wrap around on the front and back, again held in place with landscape cement.  

Well after all that, here is the result

In between all the drying, I worked on some of the details for the front power unit. The kit was missing the front turn signals so I cast a set of turn signals and the side markers.

The bridge maker needed detail. The raised number cards and holder were cut from some label paper, applied and then painted. The numbers were applied from Archer number set, coated with future and then with flat.

The windshield wipers were from the PE set, and were painted the applied.

Inside I used silver leaf to create the mirrors and black marker to highlight the edge of the mirror.

The chain is from Michaels, painted steel using Alclad Steel, cut to length and glued to the floor and around the steering wheel. I also added a pad lock from a spare PE set.

As you can see by the earlier shots, the goat is in the process of being weathered. First the tires were weathered using MIG Dried Mud. Next the underside was given a coat of pigment for weathering. Then the unit was glued to the mounting base.

With the model on the base, details were pin washed using MIG Dark Wash. Then the model was washed with a coat of MIG Light Grey for Green. Next began the pigment using MIG Dried Mud.

I still have some touch up and cleanup of the dust but here is where the goat is now.

I will post final “fire for effect” shots later this week….hopefully before leaving for AMPS East

As always, your comments either positive or negative are always welcome.

Rounds Complete!!

 

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 10:33 PM

Kevin

Thanks for stopping by and for the comments.....glad the silly putty is working for you!!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by tonka on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 8:12 PM

Details are looking great Mike! Yes

Glad you are back into it and good luck on finishing it for AMPS !

By the way ,,you were right earlier.......... The silly putty camo is so easy even a Marine can do it!! Stick out tongue

Kevin

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, September 6, 2010 1:22 PM

Thanks Bill.....This one is seaming to take forever....hoping to catch a wind accross the finish line soon.

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, September 6, 2010 11:08 AM

Sharp work on the details Mike, heading down the home stretch with this one now! Yes

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, September 6, 2010 6:32 AM

Kevin - Thanks.....you have not looked that good in years Surprise LMAO

Thanks again.

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by minimortar on Sunday, September 5, 2010 11:18 PM

redleg12
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w226/redleg12/M56127.jpg

I'm at a loss for words here Mike, so I'll just post this photo...

Bow Down

Thanks,
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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, September 5, 2010 9:17 PM

Ahhh…back to the bench after vacation….somewhat. Still trying to get caught up on chores and everything else, but I did make some progress on the details.

The driver’s compartment is sparse from the kit so I made some additions. Using Archer transfers dashboard gauges, I filled in the respective instruments. After the gages dried, I gave them a quick coat of future then a drop of CA glue to create a lens for each gauge.

Also using Archer transfers placard set, I added some of the “required” dash and shifter information and SN placards.

The kit comes with the windshield…but no clear for glass. I cut and added some .010 clear for the windshield.

After adding the kit shifters, some detail dash painting, this is what the dash looked like

The seats that come with the kit do not include cushions. I made cushions using air dry clay. After it was sized and shaped a fiberglass fabric is placed on top and wetted. Rubbing it on the surface and then removing the fabric leaves the fabric imprint in the clay. After the clay dried it was painted with Tamiya Khaki Drab. This shot the drivers back cushion is left out so you can see the difference.

The bumper decals for the front were added. These still need to be dulled.

On the side I made up the “NO STEP” (the kit does not include any decals) for the side of the bilge pump. Using the kit supplied PE, I then added the restraining straps for the bilge pump.

I am down to the short strokes at this point. Still need the steering wheel, add a chain and lock around the steering wheel, wipers, and front turn signals, then it is on to weathering and mounting.

Trying to get it done for AMPS East at the end of the month!!  Hopefully I don’t get inundated with chores!

As always, your comments either positive or negative are always welcome.

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:41 AM

OK....you jumped in while I was writing. Yep....I love my details!!!!!  I will be starting with the drivers compartment...

Yep.....grass caught on the trans axels....weathering will be fun with this guy!!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:38 AM

Bill - Thanks.....I love my silly putty!!

Kevin - Thanks, glad to be of assitance.....It so easy.....ok I won't go there Wink

Steve - Hummmm.....I usually don't go there as I don't consider what I do dioramas......Yes it will have a base and depending on my mood and time may be set up as an FDC with radios, plotting table etc.. But....no figs....to me figs make it a dio......sooooo it will generally stay here.

As always though, it is a pleasure to have you stop by!! Wherever I reside Wink

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by minimortar on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:31 AM

Looking oh, so sweeeeeeeeeet there Mike!! Bring on the details, weathering... frothing at the mouth here. Don't forget the straw/tall grass coming out of the front/back ends!

Awesome build to date!

http://www.goats4h.com/lamancha.au

Thanks,
Kevin Keefe

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 8:16 AM

So unique.

Mike, this looks great Well Done

Will you be doing a diorama for this one?

I'm asking so I'll know if you will be continuing this

over in the diorama section and I can look in on it.

Way to go!

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Posted by tonka on Monday, August 23, 2010 11:42 PM

Mike,,it looks great and thanks for the 'How to' on the silly putty technique. You make it look easy!

I picked some up after your last post and will try it on mt next camo pattern. Looks like it beats cutting up tape, using post-its and even parafilm.

Always appreciate the learnings!

Kevin

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, August 23, 2010 10:44 PM

Handy little toot there Mike! Looking forward to seeing the Goat marked up and ready for battle. Yes

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, August 23, 2010 8:05 PM

I made some good progress this weekend.

First, a few people asked about the Silly Putty masking technique. So if you want hard edge camouflage, as most MERDOC patterns were, use this method.

Step one, roll out a small bit of silly putty and roll it on the cutting board to create a strand of spaghetti from the putty.  Using small sections no more than 2 inches long, outline the pattern for the area to be painted. To get a good hard edge gently push down. Do not totally flatten but you should see the bottom inside edge

Step two, with the outline complete use painters tape or rolled flat putty pancakes to mask the larger area.

Step three, paint. Make sure you have totally painted the spot!!

Lastly, unmask, shortly after painting. I use acrylic so dry time is not a problem. If your putty is over small details and PE and it is warm, a short 5 minute trip in the fridge prior to unmasking. Pull the putty back slowly and roll it as you remove it.

TaDa….a nice hard edge camo

 

OK back to the build. I weathered in the wheel wells where it would be more difficult after the wheels were installed. After weathering with a mix of MIG Dried Mud and Industrial Dirt I removed the excess pigment and installed the wheels

I also installed the headlights and PE headlight guards.

Most of my other progress was made in the wood shop, making the base, staining and sealing it. I also made up the custom bumper numbers, using the 2/320FA “Ball of the Eagle” from the 101 ABN. The future is drying so next up will be applying the decals and detailing the crew compartment. Plus, working on the base while model items dry

As always, your comments either positive or negative are always welcome.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:42 AM

Howdy!

Just today I was notified that Perfect Scale Models (www.pefect-scale.com) added their own resin Gamma Goat to their offer. Thought y'all might want to know it.

Mike - just can't wait what you're going to do to your model next! Good luck and have a nice day

Pawel

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:57 AM

DF - Thanks...yep the goat carried on after the army in many areas as a special off road vehicle. The goat would go almost anywhere!!  Thanks for stopping by and for the comments

Stveve - Bow DownBow DownBow DownBow DownBow DownBow DownBow DownBow DownBow DownBow DownBow DownBow DownBow Down.......the Germaholic community will Crying

I can't wait!!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by panzerguy on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:32 PM

redleg12

Steve - Long time, no see....glad to see you stop by.......Thanks for the vote....looking forward to having fun with all you guys.....

As far as the contest......we will see.....there are lots of great models at AMPS East.....especially some on the German side by a fellow redleg Hmm  (Hummm...wonder who that could be???)

Rounds Complete!!

  Yeah haven't been around much but even with a busy summer schedule I've been able to steal some time at the bench. I think you might be a little surprised at what I've been working on. Hint, It involves a lot of ODWink.

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Posted by detailfreak on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:24 PM

Just like I remember them goats,the local fire dept. just 20 miles north of here had one to access difficult areas.Going to have to look into that. Fine build my friend.Yes

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:25 PM

Kevin - Thanks for stopping by....Hummm goat.....I have to look....maybe with a leg lifted checking the tire pressure Surprise

Kevin - That's the main purpose of these sites...teach, learn and have fun with friends!! Got ya covered!!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by tonka on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:21 PM

Mike appreciate the feedback on the silly putty masking...Always learn something new here!

Kevin

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Posted by minimortar on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:44 PM

Lookin' GREAT there Mike! Man, you sure is doin' good! Humm... any 1/35th scale goats of the 4-legged variety available to go along with this? That'd be an interesting little vignette!

Cool

Thanks,
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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:29 PM

Gino - Thanks....I appreciate you confidence

Steve - Long time, no see....glad to see you stop by.......Thanks for the vote....looking forward to having fun with all you guys.....

As far as the contest......we will see.....there are lots of great models at AMPS East.....especially some on the German side by a fellow redleg Hmm  (Hummm...wonder who that could be???)

Thanks guys for stopping in and for the comments of confidence Wink

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by panzerguy on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:12 PM

   Just keeps getting better and better there MikeBow Down! Good thing AMPS is two days this year cause those judges are gonna have a tough time deciding which of your builds is going to get the 'Best American' awardYes

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:52 PM

The camo is looking great.  This one is going to be great as usual.  Another winner.

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:11 AM

Boyd – Awww….goose pimples…..yep….trying to make sure it gets to AMPS East….6 + weeks…..so much to do and sooo little time. Thanks

Kevin – OK, I start with a silly putty “worm” and outline the edges. Once it is in place, I may use a silly putty pancake to cover the larger areas. As I finish up the trailer, I will take some shots and post them in my next update.

It would be great if all of us could meet in person at some FSM show!!! At least we have virtual space

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by tonka on Monday, August 9, 2010 10:31 PM

Mike..Wow !!! MAkes me want to go to AMPSEast just to see your work in person.

Question for you??  Using silly putty,,do you just do the outlines of the next color with silly putty then use tape on the rest of the vehicle? Have never tried the silly putty method yet but thinking about it..

Kevin

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, August 9, 2010 9:30 PM

Mike

Like I wasn't excited enough for AMPSEast, you gotta start throwing these pics around! 

I'm all goose-pimply...Toast

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, August 9, 2010 10:23 AM

Ed - Love it...I like ALL the comments, it allows everyone to learn, teach and be a part  of it.

I have heard some things about the Floquil weathered black. I personally try to stay with all acrylics in my case. I do use enamel/lacqor for metallics but colors I try to stay with only acrylic.

I have not found (though I must admit I have not looked) an acrylic answer to my 50/50 mix for tires. For those who are enamel/lacqor users you could try either.

The nice part of the 50/50 mix is they are flat to begin with!!

Now it is always fun to pile on...the most "stuff" is happening at the bottom of the pile!!Wink

Ed, Thanks for letting it "hang out" Ick!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, August 9, 2010 10:02 AM

I was born in Texas and raised in North Dakota being polite and respectful are key drivers for me.  I watch how some of you talk to each other and I gurantee that would only happen with me once I would be a ghost.

That being said I used to use that same paint combination for tires and I was reading I believe one of Michaels threads and he advocated using floquil weathered black. http://www.micromark.com/FLOQUIL-WEATHERED-BLACK-PAINT,6958.html

I gave it a try about a year ago and it is wonderful.  They make a Grimey Black that is great as well.  The paint is a little hot so give it a couple days to set and then seal with a flat clear before weathering.  The results are worth the effort IMHO of course.

 

How is that for "letting it hang out"?  Wink

 

 

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, August 9, 2010 9:41 AM

Pawel - Thanks for stopping by and for the comments

Bill - Thanks, I like the 50/50 mix, it gives what I feel is a good color match for black tire rubber...."Try it, you will like it!!""

Ed - Never worry about stepping on my WIP.....go nuts....that is what these threads are for.....especially me, good or bad, let it all hang out......thanks for stopping by.

Brian - Thanks, always great to have you stop by

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Posted by New Hampshire on Monday, August 9, 2010 9:23 AM

Mike, the camo is looking awesome buddy!

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, August 9, 2010 9:11 AM

I am I just thought it would be bad form to go over the top on another man's WIP!  Big Smile

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, August 9, 2010 8:48 AM

Nice work on the camo scheme Mike. Beer I'm surprised Ed isn't going nuts over the wheels...may have to give that 50/50 mix a whirl myself one of these days.

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, August 9, 2010 7:04 AM

Yeah, the fotos show it's a work of loveHeart

Nice progress, I like the colours a lot. Good luck with your build, have a nice day

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, August 8, 2010 10:30 PM

Edmund - Thanks.....I always love doing camo!!

Thanks for stopping in

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Posted by Schnobs on Sunday, August 8, 2010 9:05 PM

NICE AB work Mike!  Looking geat SIr!

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, August 8, 2010 8:46 PM

Camouflage…..MERDOC style.

First I masked the trailer internal and the bows on the power unit, the driver/passenger area. Then using Silly Putty to give a hard edge I set up the camouflage pattern for the other dominant color, in this case Earth Yellow FS 33245 which I used a 50/50 mix Tamiya Dark Yellow and Desert Yellow XF-59 & 60.

Here is the power unit

I the masked small areas for Black using Tamiya Flat black and a light sand FS 30277 using Tamiya Buff. Again, I used Silly Putty to get that hard edge for each color. After some overspray cleanup, here is the power unit

In between paint drying, I finished up the cleanup on the tires. After a 50/50 mix of Flat Black and NATO Black for that rubber look, the rims were painted with PolyScale Forest Green 505388.

I need to finish up the trailer minor colors and assemble the driving area next.

As always, your comments either positive or negative are always welcome.

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 1:07 PM

Thom - LOL......Thanks for stopping by.....Yep, the plan is to have this one completed in time for AMPS East.

Next up is the fun part....camo!!!!

Baaaaaa......this goat is tough!!

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Posted by tlivancso on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 12:56 PM

Did someone say ka-bobs Dead.

Mike awesome job on the detail and paint really brings it out to, you going to have this one ready for AMPSEast?

Cheers, Thom

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 11:40 AM

Steve - LMAO.......thanks for stopping in. Always a pleasure to have the smiley master drop in!!

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 6:00 AM

redleg12

http://mamrie.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/goat3a.jpg?w=308&h=335

I must admit....nice resemblance...

Wait....I hear Gene Autry singing..."I'm back in the saddle again"

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"On The Road Again"

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:26 AM

Kevin - Thanks, this summer seems to be affecting everyone here more than normal.....It has been a really slow July.  I am sure you will be off and running soon

Kevin - Humm....smell a goat....here is my old ammo dump buddy

I must admit....nice resemblance...

OK....get up....put down the umbrella drink.......go downstairs to the bunker....grab the first small jar of paint you can find and open it...take 3 deep breaths.....it's not muzzle blast but its the next best thing!!Wink

Wait....I hear Gene Autry singing..."I'm back in the saddle again"

Thanks for stopping by old buddy.

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Posted by minimortar on Monday, August 2, 2010 9:51 PM

I smell a goat.  Big Smile

Ahhhh... the aroma of paint... I can vaguley remember that sensation...  Dead 

Lookin' good there Mike and lookin' forward to more!  Bow Down

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Posted by tonka on Monday, August 2, 2010 9:32 PM

WOW Mike! I cannot believe that after the paint this is a resin and PE project. I SALUTE your ability to work with the multi material and make it look great!

I know what you mean about trying to keep up building,,,MY Korean GB projects are lagging behind,, But glad to see you are back at it!

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, August 2, 2010 6:40 PM

When you begin painting, it is like the first time you watched the Wizard of Oz......you go from Kansas in B&W to OZ inf Full Color....WOW, it's uplifting

Thanks

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Posted by New Hampshire on Monday, August 2, 2010 4:39 PM

And now the real fun begins!  Paint has a way of making things looks so real...I wonder why? DevilWinkGeeked

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, August 2, 2010 4:21 PM

Bill - Thanks for stopping by.....I knew you amoung all would understand!!

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, August 2, 2010 1:12 PM

Can definitely relate to the distractions stealing away bench time Mike but it's good to see this one is moving along nicely. The base paint looks good, looking forward to the next round! Beer

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, August 1, 2010 10:44 PM

Edmund - Thanks....I love my details!!!

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Posted by Schnobs on Sunday, August 1, 2010 10:29 PM

 Clapping Hands NICE!  A lot of love and attention to detail here!  Clapping Hands





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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, August 1, 2010 8:39 PM

Gino - Thanks for the peek. With all this humidity....painting has been a chore.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, August 1, 2010 8:10 PM

It's looking great Mike.  The initial paint looks nice and smooth. 

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, August 1, 2010 8:05 PM

Well summer is defiantly getting in the way of building. Plus family outings and finally working on what I promised myself I would finish this year, my website has slowed this build down. With that said, here is some progress.

I finished the exterior details. I scratch the electrical jumping jack using some leftover PE for the base plate and.040 hex rod for the jack (far right in front of driver).  I then fabricated the air lift lugs using the same method as on the trailer. They are mounted on either side of the wind shield.

The BO light for the kit was poor so I substituted one from the parts bin.  The horn was…ok so I used the kit supplied. I will have to cast a set of turn signals as the kit supplied are incorrect. I will add those later

Next I began the task of assembling the suspension. The rear is fixed and a bit simpler with just two shocks and the drive shaft. That fit together fairly well. The front is the same as on the trailer with the drum supported by the upper and lower leaf, a spring to the lower leaf, drive shaft to the drum and steering arm to the front of the drum. The instructions are non existent on this and the suspension was assembled based on research and the TM.

Assembling the front suspension is a royal PITA and take a few days as a part has to fully dry before moving to the next item

Now it was time for some paint. With all the heat and humidity, even in an AC cooled house, I needed to pick a good day.  First everything was washed, well rinsed and allowed to dry for a few days. Then everything was primed with Tamiya Flat Black. Any problem spots, gels, voids, etc that showed were filled and another light coat of black put on to give uniformity. After a good drying, everything was painted with PolyScale Forest Green 505388 which is the dark green for the MERDOC camouflage pattern. Here is the power section.

Here is the trailer section

Well that’s it for now….MERDOC camo work next.

As always, your comments either positive or negative are always welcome.

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:11 PM

RBaer - Thanks and yep....shake and bake, I am an assembler.....this is modeling....the challange makes this fun.

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Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:34 AM

Great modeling!

I kind of think like this: Shale-and-bake kits are fun, but making something out of next to nothing is a lot more rewarding, which looks like exactly what's happening here.

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:17 AM

Kevin - Thanks. I love museums....good stuff. I have seen pics of the dio at the Marine museum. The Ontos is great restored and it is nice to see a display in a dio.

Yep...looking forward to the smell of paint...soon

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Posted by tonka on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:21 PM

Mike,,

Looking great! I have been on vacation and away from bench,,looking forward to using your and Hans' tips on the styrene rod.

On a side note, went to National Museum of the Marines and they have a full size Ontos in a Vietnam dio,,thought of your build. Took a bunch of pics for ideas...like a WW1 ford lorry in USMC markings,,,

Looking forward to the Goat painted...

Kevin

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:05 PM

Mike,

Work on the casa is proceeding although at a slow pace...hopefully it will get done this week and I can have my new paint booth area set up and ready to go for this weekend. Fingers crossed! Big Smile

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:22 AM

Brian - Thanks, looking forward to charging up the air brush!!!

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Posted by New Hampshire on Monday, July 12, 2010 8:51 PM

Mike, as sual your work is top notch.  When the paint goes on and everything starts to pull together this thing is going to shine!

Brian

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, July 12, 2010 8:48 PM

Bill - Thanks, hoping to see youback at the front soon....the FEBA is lonely without support from TX.

Hopefully all is going well at Villa de Plunk and look forward to the new tank maintenance shop.

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, July 12, 2010 8:14 PM

Very nice work on the trailer Mike, the details you're adding are really making this one shine! Yes

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, July 12, 2010 3:54 PM

Kevin - Thanks....I know you "appreciate" the goat Wink as far as motivation....flip through all the great pics of your builds on your web site...short of the smell of muzzle blast, that should help!!

Karl - You are too kind. Resin is a "horse of another color". The kit is good but the directions are almost non existant. Thank God for the TM and some good web sites.

Persistant is my middle name!!

Gino - Thanks....yep, it won't be long and it will be "prime time"...I hear the airbrush calling.

Thanks everyone

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, July 12, 2010 2:34 PM

It is looking great Mike.  Great job on the scratching.  I can't wait to see some paint on it.   I'm guessing that it shouldn't be too long.  Keep up the good work my friend.

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Posted by the doog on Monday, July 12, 2010 9:51 AM

Mike,

HOLY @%#$!!!! Man, you have really gone to town on this baby since I've last looked in! This is a spectacular project thus far, and a real tour-de-force of resin modeling--NEVER easy--and detailing! The unpainted model looks formidable so far! Great work! Stick out tongue

I give you secondary and additional kudo's for prevailing over and through this resin build. I know how difficult these kits can sometimes be--and the lack of help form the instructions doesn't help!

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Posted by minimortar on Monday, July 12, 2010 9:39 AM

Awesome work, awesome subject  (as usual!) Mike! Another woman swooner/show stopper for sure!

Had a mutual friend here yesterday for a short visit. Hoping the next time, that you'll be here as well. At least for a short visit, long enough for some old fashioned boot in the (my) *** motivation.

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:24 PM

I was off on vacation for the week of July 4, now I am trying to get back into the routine.

I was able to get some work done this weekend. First the trailer section was completed. This included mounting the kit supplied tail lights, PE bumpers and suspension system for the wheels. The suspension is quite a job and the instructions are absolutely NO help. I spent a bunch of time looking at the 1 to 1 photos to figure it out.

On the scratch side, I added the airborne lifting rings. There are two on each side and two in the back. These are .040 styrene rod with the loops made from 26 gauge wire. The rod is drilled and the wire mounted through the holes. I also added the canvas tie down hooks from some leftover PE, four on both sides and two in the back.

With the tow hitch mounted in the front the trailer is ready for priming

I worked on the tires which needed a bunch of sanding to get rid of the center mold seam and then to fill some small air bubble voids. The tires were a couple of hours just to get ready for the paint booth.

Back on the power section, I mounted the kit supplied wind shield and I am working on scratching the windshield supports. You can see the styrene coated wire on either side. I also mounted the kit supplied engine compartment latches and handles.

I added a lower access plate on the driver’s side using Archer surface details.

I still have all the front turn signals and BO lights to mount along with the suspension for the 4 power section wheels. That is where I am at for the moment.

As always, your comments either positive or negative are always welcome.

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:06 AM

Hans....no problem, it was great for the little quick toot....besides fun, this is supposed to be a learning and exchage of ideas.

Thanks again for covering all 6400 mils Wink

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:20 AM

No sweat... Scratchbuilding materials are my life, lol...  I've built a number of supprt equipment items from it and a few other details like truck bows with it... I used it for the support system of the TOC extentsion of an M577, truck bows, aircraft folding engine hoists, aircraft maintnence stands, even gun barrels.. The latter I did by cutting a piece of the rod, then removing a bit of the styrene (like stripping an electrical wire), then sliding the plastic forward a skoshi-bit to leave a hollow tube, and gluing the wire into a drilled hole. 

It's great stuff if you need to make something with a tubular frame that has a lot of strength, but don't want to solder brass rod...  I usually just stock up on various sizes of Evergreen rod & strip avery time I go the LHS... It's cheap, and you'll always find something you need it for...

Using it here to make the turret basket for a Panzer IV, along with a medicine-bottle cap and some screen for treadplate:

Ok... Done hijacking your thread, 'Leg...

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Posted by tonka on Monday, June 28, 2010 9:29 PM

Hans and Mike,,Thanks for the info on the styrene rod,,will check the LHS this week,,,never saw it before,,or looked for it I should say!

Kevin

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, June 28, 2010 7:17 PM

Boyd - It is a way of life... I still have a Hobby Fan resin Ontos on the shelf......I sold a resin M198 at a loss once the Trumpeter kit came our......that's why I am building my goat....

Then again, I could be scared, never had bought the model and no one makes it in styrene...by time I try to get it in resin it is OOP and I pay through the nose......

You cannot win.....if you are real lucky, on a good day you break even!

Brian - Thanks, having a ball scratching Surprise (humm better not reverse those words)

Thanks again

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Posted by New Hampshire on Monday, June 28, 2010 6:59 PM

You have some top notch scratch building work going on there!  Your goat is looking damn fine so far!

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, June 28, 2010 6:08 PM

Hans von Hammer

I'm afraid now that if I buy it, Tamiya will release an injection-molded one for 30.00 the day after I finish the resin Goat...

No way Hans... they'd release it the day after you started your Goat!!! Stick out tongue

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, June 28, 2010 3:27 PM

Yeah... Frugal.. That's it.. That''ll work...

I'm afraid now that if I buy it, Tamiya will release an injection-molded one for 30.00 the day after I finish the resin Goat...

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, June 28, 2010 1:07 PM

Kevin - My buddy Hans alredy gave you the message. Evergreen or Plastistruct, whatever flavor you LHS has or Plastistruct will take mail orders.

As Hans stated, it is gluable, holds paint  and for some items like bows, I prefer it. I have a round head needle nose and just hold and bend. The only thing is don't squeeze too hard where you are holding as it will dent the styrene coating.

Hans - Thanks for the message pick up.....As far as buying the kit.....your not cheap, just frugal!!

Marc - Thanks, love to be scratching....I think it is the engineer in me!

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, June 28, 2010 12:56 PM

Mike that is some nice looking scratch work.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, June 28, 2010 12:29 PM

You stated that the bows are "styrene covered rod"....How did you do that?

Styrene-covered rod is available from Evergreen or at your LHS... It's simply wire covered with styrene... It bends fairly  easily, holds its shape, and is gluable with regular modeled cement..

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Posted by tonka on Monday, June 28, 2010 12:27 PM

Mike,,great job on the bows..

Can I ask a question??  You stated that the bows are "styrene covered rod"....How did you do that?

I am trying to bend regular styrene rod now for the bows on my GMC deuce and 1/2 and having no luck..thinking of inserting a wire into a hollow rod,,is that how you did it?

Any help is appreciated,,,, I really do learn a lot from your builds!

Thanks

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, June 28, 2010 12:17 PM

What I'm surprised at is the fact that I'm gonna spend the money.. Now if we can just get the guy to do a freakin' CUCV...

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, June 28, 2010 10:52 AM

Hans - Jon is a great guy..... but WARNING This kit is not for the faint of heart. Much of the assembly must be figured out from reviewing actual 1 to 1 photos. It is a nice resin kit BUT the directions are essentially non existant.

What I am posting here will help but as you pull the lanyard this, the kit is a "modelers" kit not an "assemblers" kit

I know you are a modeler...just want to be sure you are not surprised!!

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, June 28, 2010 9:48 AM

redleg12

Guney - I emailed Jon at CM to invite him to the thread for a peek and mentioned your email. He is at

ironship@vic.com or 888-476-6744.

Hope that helps!!

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Just talked to Jon about buyin' one of those... YIKES!!!

BUT... I'm gonna break my $35.00 limit to get it if Household 6 goes for it...  (Gotta use her card, mines maxed-out after a buying spree on Ebay last week...)

Your work so far has sold me, Redleg... dammit...

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, June 28, 2010 9:39 AM

Gino - Thanks...I always love scratching..Surprise

Bill - Thanks, ahhhh......nothing like sucking up time like work on the house.....the almighty sponge!! Glad to supply you with a "fix"....hopefully you can get back soon. Happy contractingGeeked

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, June 28, 2010 9:18 AM

Ditto the comments on the cargo bed, outstanding work there Mike! Yes Yes

I hear you about things stealing bench time, we are having work done on the house and between riding herd on contractors and taking care of everything else, I haven't had any bench time at all this week so have to live vicariously for the moment through the build log threads here. Wink

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, June 28, 2010 6:57 AM

The cargo bed looks awesome.  Great job on the bows and rails.

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, June 28, 2010 5:28 AM

Jeff - Welcome aboard, enjoy the ride!!

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Posted by JEFFB on Sunday, June 27, 2010 10:11 PM

I always hoped one of these would show up! During my days on FT.Hood, they had a Goat on display..always admired it.

Great work so far..I'm riding along on this one!

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:34 PM

Summer chores and other family outings take’s a toll on the bench time, but I found some time this week

I did a little more work on the power section. I mounted the bumper, then PE headlight supports which I upgraded by adding the 3 nut heads on each side using PE nuts. I also added the back support for the cab cover using .040 styrene coated wire.

The cargo section needs a lot of work. The kit does not come with bows and the cargo sides in resin are not the greatest.

First I made the cargo side railing using .060 styrene channel.  After gluing those in place, I fabricated the front cargo railing which is made from .040 styrene coated wire. The kit has the front the same as the sides but the actual Goat used channel for the sides and tubing for the front.

The bows were also fabricated from .040 styrene coated rod. These were all drilled and the glue into place. The “rod boxes” which is actually the bow holder on the full scale, were fabricated using some .060 channel.

 The reflectors are made using .020 punched styrene. First a lower layer circle then an upper layer circle with the center punched out. There are 4 reflectors. Two in the rear and two on the sides.

That’s it for now. More scratch work coming

As always, your comments either positive or negative are always welcome.

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:12 AM

Boyd - Thanks for stopping in. You know me...I'm not a Tiger or Sherman (no offense guys)....I look at my modeling as helping to broaden everyones horizon Wink

As far as the Funny Duck Club.....leaning heavy to yes...I have all the items as I scratched together a "kit" that I made from scratch for someone a few years back....its time to dust it off and build it.

It is where I got my start using sticks & charts to calculate the ballistics....Eventually there was a computer called FADAC

A 300 lb calculator with tubes for numbersSurprise....

I won't do a FADAC but I will try to get the rest

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Posted by bbrowniii on Saturday, June 26, 2010 3:21 PM

Mike

You find all sorts of little gems, don't you!!!  

I never had the (mis)-fortune to cross paths with a Goat, though I heard plenty of stories.  Your little project should be fun to watch.  I certainly hope you get to set up the entire FDC.  That would warm my mortarman's heart...

Do I sense a best in show....?

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Posted by tonka on Friday, June 25, 2010 3:11 PM

Those had to be Marines!!! 

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Posted by redleg12 on Friday, June 25, 2010 5:14 AM

LMAO.....I don't see a stream from the bilge pump Surprise....they may have just floated their wat down river!!

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Posted by panzerguy on Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:49 PM

redleg12

Steve - for you....

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w226/redleg12/15.jpg

  LOL These guys look like they forgot a very important piece of equipment for the Goat

We called them  EPD's (emergency propulsion devices)

 

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Posted by redleg12 on Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:19 PM

Guney - I emailed Jon at CM to invite him to the thread for a peek and mentioned your email. He is at

ironship@vic.com or 888-476-6744.

Hope that helps!!

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Posted by Guney on Thursday, June 24, 2010 6:36 PM

Hi Mike

I want to buy a Gama Goat....Sent e-mail to Commander Models for a private question.....But they never answer me....???

Do you know any special or another thing to help me contact them...?

 

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Posted by tonka on Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:29 AM

Monks of modelling,, never thought of it that way,, you guys could have a club!!Big Smile

Being a grunt and a Marine on top of that,,I tend to shoot from the hip,,

I work with engineers all day and have several working for me,, my 'non-anal-ness' drives them crazy!

But I totally agree we should all build because its FUN! And enjoy and learn from the other styles...

1/87 is small,, especially if I had to put the bilge pumps in...

As always look forward to more pics and following the build...

Kevin

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Posted by redleg12 on Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:58 AM

Karl - Thanks for stopping in.....I can understand those LOOOONG dry times with gloss.

As far as an all resin kit.....as you like to say, this hobby is, for a large part art.....just think of resin as a different medium......oil instead of pencil...

Some of us broaden our horizon with "autos" others with "resin".....just a different stroke

Thanks for the confidence.

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:25 AM

HeavyArty

 

 

I guess that makes me a Monk of Modeling as well.  Yup, my years of artillery precision makes me only build one model at a time and keeps my bench insanely orderly and clean as well.  So is this thing we do. Wink

Sign me up as a Monk as well then! One at a time for me too!

I have to say that with Autos, however, it sometimes pays to have one thing drying and gassing out while you work on another. I found that that does indeed extend the time it takes both projects to get finished to what seems like an inordinately long period.

This is a really interersting choice, Mike! I'm always impressed at someone taking on a full resin kit1

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Posted by redleg12 on Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:06 AM

Gino - Are we related??? Hummm....must be the cherry juice in the veins!!

Steve - for you....

The goat is different!!!. The guys from Commanders Models may be at the show....but for the rest of the visitors Surprise

Thanks for stopping by....hope this build does not bring back wet nightmares Wink

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Posted by panzerguy on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:13 PM

   Mike I know it's going to be as fun watching you build this advance party limo a it was to drive the full size version. I also predicted that this guy is going to be a big attention getter at AMPSYes.

   Only bad experience I had in one involved some deep water and a faulty bilge pump in the trailerEmbarrassed

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:15 PM

Mike,, Wish I had the discipline to have just one on the bench at a time..

redleg12

That comes from the years of artillery combined with being an engineer.....I am somewhat the Monk of modelingGeeked

I guess that makes me a Monk of Modeling as well.  Yup, my years of artillery precision makes me only build one model at a time and keeps my bench insanely orderly and clean as well.  So is this thing we do. Wink

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:06 PM

That comes from the years of artillery combined with being an engineer.....I am somewhat the Monk of modelingGeeked

The thing that counts is your enjoyment.....I enjoy my anal ways.....you work best with multiple projects....different strokes

Now.....1/87 scale.....tooooo old and eyes toooo bad for that....I cut off toe nails bigger than that Surprise

I usually stay 1/35.....best is 1/40 if it is not available in 1/35

Back to my insanity

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Posted by tonka on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:38 PM

Mike,, Wish I had the discipline to have just one on the bench at a time..I always finish them but do so in stages... Doing a dio of the Chosin Reservoir march by the 1st Marine Division for the Korean War GB...finishing a 120MM fig for it also,, plus a Revolutionary War militia fig for a friend, 1 car and 3 planes...I punish myself!!

By the way just saw a Roco 1/87 scale Gamma goat on ebay,,,HMM another interesting dio idea...

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:18 AM

Tonka - Thanks for the visit. The bench always has something on it. Now, I am anal....only ONE kit at a time and no new kit comes near the bench until the last on is DONE Geeked When a kit is done I take a day to clean the bench and the area around it, the move on. I normally begin research on my next build while working on the current build, thus  I have started lookng at the next one already....

That's just me!

As far as the USMC Goat....of course....it had bilge pumps Big Smile...a bad ride is always better than a good walk Wink

Bob - Actually the kit is new...just out this past March. It is a resin kit and....not for the faint of heart but....it's a Goat!!

Thanks for stopping in

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Posted by M1Carbine on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:55 AM

Red - interesting subject, I haven't seen one of these in years and didnt even know they had a kit for it.

 

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Posted by tonka on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:06 PM

Mike,, look forward to this one as well. Cannot believe you dove right back in, no wasting time huh? Smile

You know if you really wanted strange you would build this one as USMC vehicle!! Geeked

I too remember these and the maintenance headache they were for the Motor T guys! We dumb grunts would  rather walk than ride in one...  well OK not really,,worse ride is better than best walk! 

Good luck and keep pushing!!

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:48 PM

Brian - Nice of you to check in....to the house of strange Wink

What is even worse....like Hans, I drove one of these Surprise

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Posted by New Hampshire on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:18 PM

I love odd subjects, and this sure is odd! Big Smile  Can't wait to see how this little guy turns out.

Brian

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 5:57 PM

Gino - thanks for stopping in.....another strange little guy...you know me!!

Paul - Besides the 82 & 101, Germany was a mainstay of the Goat. Thanks for stopping in

Hans - WHAT DID YOU SAY!!!!

Guney - Nice to have you along!!

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Posted by Guney on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 5:06 PM

Very good choice....I'll follow....Good luck...Smile

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:46 PM

Where they're loud is inside... Driver can't even talk to the guy in the other seat without yelling at full-bore..

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Posted by padakr on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:32 PM

That is cool.  I remember seeing them in Germany when my Dad was stationed there.  Don't remember them being all that loud, but it's been 30 years and my memory fades.  After the M60s drove out the gate, everything else seemed quiet.

I look forward to seeing more pictures.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:22 PM

Another great piece Mike.  I'll be watching this little gem.

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:13 PM

Hans - If you were 101 or 82....you were almost all goat!!

Bill - And as I reach into my magic hat......Presto....a Goat!!

Thanks guys

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:21 PM

Looking forward to seeing your usual magic on this one Mike! Beer

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:44 PM

Ah, FDC... Didn't occur to me since ours was in a 577 when I was SP... When I was Towed, the FDC was in a CUCV...

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:11 AM

Hans- Actually......this will be the FDC Goat....I will be mounting antennas on the trailer......trying to decide if I go all out with an ANVRC 12 system in a rack and the charts laid out for view. If I can get the vehicle together with a minimal PIA...I may spend the time to set up the Funny Duck Club!!

Thanks for stopping in and the questions

Marc - There is more to artillery than just a lanyard!! We are a deep and complex bunch.....Wink

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:00 AM

But where is the pull string make boom part?

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:53 AM

Drove a Goat in convoys many miles...  It was the most comfortable military vehicle, driver-wise, I ever drove... But LOUD!!!!   Always wanted to put a red star on ours, the thing NEVER "looked American"...

LMAO on the "pull-toy" ref... Yer RIGHT!, lol...

You going for the "Battery Commo Goat " or a "Prime Mover for the M102 in the 82 AB" look, Redleg?

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 5:10 AM

Pawel - I love the different and strange. I need to do the different....it keeps the blood pumping

Steve - Glad you like the little guy....always a pleasure to have you along for the ride.

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:01 AM

This is gonna be good..........

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Decorated%20images/th_T1-4-copy.jpg

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:48 AM

Hello Mike!

It's so good to see you taking a shot at the Gamma Goat! I have to tell you your choice of subjects really impresses me, most of the time you tackle subjects I'd gladly do myself too! I'll be watching, good luck with your project, and have a nice day

Pawel

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, June 21, 2010 10:33 PM

LMAO.....never thought of it that way but yep...just remember the maintenance nightmare and how LOUD they were.....yet it was the best off road vehicle...it could go anywhere!!

I somehow don't think the styrene folks will be making this anytime soon (until I am about 3/4 through this resin build...with my luck!!). I is about as mainstream as the Ontos but does not have all the nice barrels!

Thanks for stopping by

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, June 21, 2010 10:19 PM

When you drove ahead of one in a column, dont you think they looked like a kids toy pull phone? All it needed was some big goofy eyes in place of the headlights.

Looking forward to your build on this Redleg. Certainly a vehicle long overlooked in mainstream styrene.Yes

 

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