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Tiger 1 Initial production, s.Pz.Abt.502, Dragon #6600

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Dre
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Posted by Dre on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:33 PM

Objectives met and mission failed AGAIN!   I used MM flat white this time and got nasty tide marks and blooms around the silly putty masking from the paint interacting with the underlying hairspray... whereas the Tamiya white came off way too easily the first time.  

I guess that the Fates do not want me to finish this Tiger....  which is fine by me, as I've just about lost all patience with getting the paint job/whitewash done the way I want.   

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:51 PM

 I've been a watchin'  ................

http://www.homepurchaseprogram.com/monster2_files/image003.gif

Maybe I can help you out with this bloomin' project..

You obviously have the ability; all you need is a method that is simple. Now at this stage what do you have to lose..... you can learn from this. Besides, you have too much invested here to just quit.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e105/CommentCrazyGirl/Smileys%20Action/Food%20Cooking/52gy.gif I really think you've been trying to juggle too many nuts at one time.

 

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x43/searcher451/Smileys/ok.gif  just another 15 minutes with the Simple Green.......   you CAN save this.

 

1. Get your original color re-established. I suggest using acrylics - forget the modulation; if you're going to do whitewash, it won't matter anyway.

    A. Forget the hairspray.

    B. Lose the Future.

You won't need either one on this project.

2. Now get some Grumbacher's Academy White oil paint and turpenoid thinner (in the http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:BTofLv7Y2Ys8RM:http://www.jerrysartarama.com/images/resized/75x75/PRODUCTS/OILS/WEBER_MEDIUMS/0007905000000-ST-01-Weber-Turpenoid-Gallon.jpgBLUE can, NOT THE http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:uiAfrhGGBSCwKM:http://i.treehugger.com/turpenoid.gifGREEN ONE!) from Hobby Lobby or wherever.

3. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh206/SerraTijn/smileys/smiley_paint.gif After repainting the initial color, give it a day.......   relax, this isn't gonna be difficult.

4. Now, squish out a blobhttp://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr15/nydreamz/Blob.gif of oil paint about one fourth the size of a computer key (not the space bar) on a piece of raw card board. Let it set for about 5 minutes, you won't be using all of it........  I hope.

5. Put your thinner in a drink cap lid and set it right beside your paint on that piece of cardboard. Lay out a range of small paint brushes and napkins and some crumpled toilet paper within easy reach.

 Now, don't be scared..... at this point, you don't have anything to lose. Patience is required here but the results are truly gratifying.

 Okay. Take a breath and try the bottom of the hull first. Yes, I know they didn't whitewash the bottom but this will give you a feel for what you will need to do with the rest of the project.

6. Take a ¼ inch brush and cover the bottom with turpenoid....slop it on ......... good-n-wet.

7. While it's still wet use another brush and lightly jab the titanium white in a spread pattern leaving spaces about the size of a dime...... there's plenty of time to work this so don't worry about that. Crumple up the toilet paper and use it to lightly jab and dab up some of the whitewash. You're wanting to get a random based pattern started here. This is the first of several layers so it doesn't have to be heavy. The wetness will make it look dark but when it dries tomorrow the gray base coat will appear slightly more faded, which is what you want. Get it the way you think it looks right and set it aside until tomorrow.......  patience............

8. Ok, so it's tomorrow. Unless you just really try hard, you'll be able to add a heavier application today without budging yesterday's result. This will be more in the form of a wash....apply it in the same manner. Give it another day.....a bit more faded now ....... hey, it's a hobby and that's what it's supposed to do....you do it in your spare time.

You'll like that dead flat finish you're getting; that's what the cardboard does.

9. Since nobody should be looking under here ,http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/orangekitty215/kittylookingunder.jpggive it a try with some streaks by putting a toothpick dallop of white on yesterdays finish. Now dip a small brush in the thinner and just pat it lightly on a napkin twice and carefully/gently drag it down one side of the dot. Might have to do it a few times but if it gets crooked just redampen the brush in the same manner and go down the other side of the dot to straighten it up. You'll need this experience on the upper surfaces. After steak practice .....yeah, take another day....think about what you've done.

10. Alright now; time to drybrush. Go back to your acrylic base color and well, drybrush it on. When it looks just a bit "TOO" overdone, it should be about right. Give it about 20 minutes to dry, gotta love those acrylics.

 By now you should feel more confident in what you're doing and the next step will begin to show the rewards. Back to the oil paint now.

11. http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e105/CommentCrazyGirl/Smileys%20Weather%20Seasonal/upsidedown.gif You're on the bottom of this tank to learn so here we go again. You can do this two ways, take your choice. On a wet surface....place a more widely spaced pattern of white and thin/blend it out quite a lot using the brush and/or the crumpled  toilet paper as a blotter. On a dry surface add thinner a bit at a time and distribute accordingly. The purpose is to gently fade the drybrushing giving the desired illusion of worn whitewash. Remember that you WANT the whitewash to stay in the cracks and crevices because that's how it would go in he real world.

While it's wet you can do a lot ..... but the next day it's there to stay.

You should be getting a feel for it by now so you may have to go back and forth between # 10 and 11 a few times to get it the way you want it to look.

Trust me though, if you play with this, it WILL work out very nicely...... no dullcote needed either. Always give the thinned oils a day to dry and you, time to think.

 

Well, I think I covered it all.....      Here goes.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Decorated%20images/th_T1-4-copy.jpg

 

 

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Dre
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Posted by Dre on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:16 PM

Disaster Master I do appreciate the advice, really, but I don't know if this is the direction I want to go right now....  perhaps another build.  This method you describe does sound intriguing though...  sort of an oil dot filter writ large?   Actually, it sounds kinda scary!

For the life of me I can't understand why some folks can knock these simple acrylic whitewashes out the first time whereas mine gets completely buggered each time (well, twice now)...   I mean, there I was laying down the white in nice, light mists so as to avoid smears and drips and to build up a tonal variation and then BAM!  tide marks and blooms. 

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:57 PM

I DunnoFor me, spraying on white just don't cut it. You only want to give the illusion. For a model that means you don't have to do it just like on the real tank.

Everyone has to find their own way I guess.

Blooming is primarily because of minerals and chemicals in the water, make sure to use distilled water and a drop of Dawn when doing washes with flat acrylics. Much of the blooming can be remedied with light drybrushing.

Lessons learned best are lessons learned hard.

You'll see the results of my technique in an upcoming build I will eventually post. All you have to do is come back here to see how I did it.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Decorated%20images/th_T1-4-copy.jpg

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
Dre
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Posted by Dre on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:39 PM

DM, I'm really not trying to disregard your advice- I just don't think that it fits into my game plan (such as it is) at this time.  I just reread your plan and it does make a lot of sense for a future build (a Pz. III N with winterketten?), but I don't think that I could swing another complete strip, respray, new whitewash and all the associated weathering and mud by this Saturday morning.   I have a very hard deadline that I might squeak under if I can get back on plan tonight.....  and that's a big IF.

Hard lessons?   I think that I could write a few chapters in that book, lol.Crying

At the very least, you have given me enough motivation to try and complete this instead of throwing in the towel.

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Posted by Byrden on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 AM

Why not practise your techniques on other plastic objects than your model?

 

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Posted by disastermaster on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:10 AM

Dre

DM, I'm really not trying to disregard your advice- I just don't think that it fits into my game plan (such as it is) at this time.  I just reread your plan and it does make a lot of sense for a future build (a Pz. III N with winterketten?), but I don't think that I could swing another complete strip, respray, new whitewash and all the associated weathering and mud by this Saturday morning.   I have a very hard deadline that I might squeak under if I can get back on plan tonight.....  and that's a big IF.

Hard lessons?   I think that I could write a few chapters in that book, lol.Crying

At the very least, you have given me enough motivation to try and complete this instead of throwing in the towel.

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http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/gluetank/Decorated%20images/th_T1-4-copy.jpg

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:38 PM

Byrden

Why not practise your techniques on other plastic objects than your model?

 

Er...  mighty good question....  um..        because I'm an idiot?

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