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DML Jagdpanther Late Complete PICS P9 12-12-10

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Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:22 AM

Disaster Master, last time Bill said he was going to ship me his Jagdpanther via UPS so I can finish it up for him.  It is really almost completed anyway... can't wait to see it. Stick out tongue

Andy

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:31 AM

DM, wasn't able to get to it this past weekend and make any progress but I have the rest of the week off starting tomorrow for Thanksgiving so should be able to get this one across the finish line soon! Wink It's been tough for me to hold to a regular schedule with this build, been very hit or miss which is new to me and been very disruptive as a result...but hopefully things have settled down enough now that I can return to a "normal" schedule.

Andy, the way things are going you probably could have had it finished up by now if I had shipped it to you! Propeller Wink

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Posted by disastermaster on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:54 AM

Oh NO!

Now Andy is gonna be heartbroken http://th169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/El_fosforo/Icons/th_heart.gif

no http://th10.photobucket.com/albums/a123/Xx_Serpentina_xX/Icons/th_UPS-Fragile.gifpackage from Bill.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:40 AM

Bill

As usual, I've been lurking this one.  Just figured it was about time for me to chime in with the typical platitudes and praise.  This one is looking VERY nice.  Great job.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:19 PM

Thanks Boyd! I've got the rest of this week off and fully intend to spend some quality time with this one in order to make up for the neglect over the last couple of weeks. Big Smile

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, November 26, 2010 4:03 PM

Due to the Thanksgiving Day holiday, was able to get in a little more progress on this build. I've been fighting some sinus issues and that's made it tough to work on things that require a breather mask such as the heavily-thinner-involved weathering/filter steps but hopefully should be able to get to that tomorrow as it's the largest remaining task now to march this one on to completion.

As a result, this update is mostly about the details. I decided to go ahead and fit the tow cables so that they would blend in with the rest of the weathering, so they were painted up by hand and installed. I used MM non-buffing Metalizer for the cables over the steel wire and then lightly dry-brushed enamel Steel on the ends to show some use/wear. The collars were painted with the standard dunkelgelb mix I used for the base coat earlier on. The cables were installed into position with a small bit of CA gel used to secure the wires into their u-shaped retainers and the DML-provided cotter pins at the rear deck were glued in place with ordinary liquid glue.

I also painted and detailed the small track-changing cable and installed it into position on the right hull side rack. There's no way this could have been done with the kit-supplied wire without breaking things and the ship-rigging twine made things much easier. I still needed to use a pair of tweezers to thread it into position and used a small amount of liquid glue on the cable ends to insure they stayed put.

I also got around to painting the tracks. I tried something new this time around and airbrushed the MK track runs with MM enamel Burnt Umber. I followed this up by dry-brushing enamel Steel on the wear/contact points and then applied a thinned wash of enamel Raw Umber to mute/blend in the Steel a bit. Normally I would now install the tracks but given the prominence the tracks have on the JP suspension, I'm actually going to apply their pigment weathering and such first (also allowing greater access to the road wheels for their same process) and then install them.

Should have another update at the "usual" Sunday delivery point as well...maybe even finally get this one across the finish line depending!

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Friday, November 26, 2010 4:28 PM

Tracks look nice there buddy.Yes

Tony LeeSmile

Shoot Low Boys They're Ridin Ponys

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Posted by deafpanzer on Friday, November 26, 2010 7:15 PM

Ditto  I have to give it a shot... normally I use MM gunmetal as base paint.  Hope you feel better soon! 

Andy

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Posted by redleg12 on Friday, November 26, 2010 7:45 PM

Looking good my friend....nice to have you back at the bench

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, November 26, 2010 8:51 PM

Thanks Tony! Also went back over the tow cables and corrected some of the bowing seen in the pics with some carefully placed CA gel so they have a more natural look to how they lay against the casemate hull and the rear engine deck.

BeerAndy, using MM non-buffing Metalizer Gunmetal as my base paint is my normal method but I decided to give this route a shot as it might, if it works out the way I like, shorten the paint time since it would eliminate the need to primer with Flat Black then paint over again with the metalizer. So far the look is pretty consistent with my previous method but with one less step...will see how it looks with the pigment treatment before I will say for sure on whether this new method will replace the old.

Mike, always good to be back at the bench! Hope you didn't OD on Turkey yesterday. Big Smile

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Posted by hughes2682 on Friday, November 26, 2010 9:05 PM

It's good to see the line up and running again.  I love it when I get to the track portion of assembly..... it's kind of like a milestone in the build.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by redleg12 on Friday, November 26, 2010 9:37 PM

wbill76

Hope you didn't OD on Turkey yesterday. Big Smile

Naaaaa......

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, November 27, 2010 10:42 AM

Thanks Dave, have to agree with you about milestones. I have to be honest and say that this build has been the toughest for me to stay motivated on because of all the interruptions but I'm determined to get it across the finish line regardless.

BeerMike, nice "camo" Turkey and definitely not OD! Stick out tongue

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, November 27, 2010 11:01 AM

Just 2 words for that.  Soup Herb!

Marc  

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Posted by satch_ip on Saturday, November 27, 2010 3:25 PM

Bill, how did those Model Kasten tracks go together?  Were they easier to build than the standard indie link?  I hate that part of armor.  I've been scouring Ebay and hobby shops for the DS tracks.

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Posted by Jose_Luis_Lopez on Saturday, November 27, 2010 5:10 PM

An absolute winner ... really nice step by step post

 

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:48 PM

Thanks Marc and Jose Luis, appreciate the comments! Beer

More progress to report today. The tow cables were secured more firmly in place using small amounts of CA gel on the engine decks as well as the hull sides to insure a more "natural" look.

Weathering work began in earnest with the first step being an overall application of an MM enamel Raw Umber wash to the entire vehicle. This was followed up by a dot filter treatment using MM enamel Flat White, Panzer Dunkelgelb, and Raw Sienna. The dots were applied to small sections at a time then blended together until virtually gone using a square tip blender brush lightly moistened with clean thinner. It's a tedious process that took several hours all while wearing a breather mask to avoid heavy fume exposure to the thinner.

This will sit overnight so I can look at it with a fresh pair of eyes tomorrow and see if anything more needs to be done. In addition, a pin wash of Burnt Umber will get applied as well to bring out the details before it all gets sealed up and ready for the final leg of pigment treatment for the lower hull and tracks/running gear.

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:53 PM

satch_ip

Bill, how did those Model Kasten tracks go together?  Were they easier to build than the standard indie link?  I hate that part of armor.  I've been scouring Ebay and hobby shops for the DS tracks.

Satch,

The MK tracks go together well but they do require some time/effort committment. The guide horns are separate so you have to glue two of them per link and of course clean-up each link and do the assembly. If yo'ure looking for something that's "easier" than indy links, this is probably not the route you should take. I prefer MK's for the other main advantage they provide in the form of workable tracks that are easier to position for sag and can be worked off the vehicle for painting and weathering prior to final installation. They always take more time to assemble though than you would spend on working with static indies for sure though. HTH! Beer

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:24 PM

The Thanksgiving holiday bench session came to an end today and while I had hoped to get to the pigment stage, it was not to be so this one will linger on just a bit longer unfortunately.

I did however make some more progress. I applied a thinned MM enamel Burnt Umber pin wash to bring out all the details, particularly the weld seams, that's present all over on the JP. I used a pointed 3/0 brush to apply the wash and then used clean thinner to come back over various areas where there was excess and removed or adjusted it as needed.

The JP is deceiving, there's a lot of detail work involved in this step with all the different elements on the roof and engine deck, so it took longer than I had originally anticipated. Since I was working with thinner, I wore a breather mask during this step to reduce the fume exposure.

I'll let this sit overnight and then take another look at it tomorrow to see if any further adjustments are needed before applying the sealing dull-coat. Then it will just be the pigment step remaining!

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:07 PM

The "Plunk Principal" is showing through Bill.Cowboy

Tony LeeBig Smile

Shoot Low Boys They're Ridin Ponys

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, November 29, 2010 12:04 PM

Looking good!!!......Hang in there

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 29, 2010 4:50 PM

Thanks Tony, although I admit I can only guess at which principle you're applying! Wink

Mike, always glad to see you stop in...this one's slowly getting closer and closer to the finish line, almost there!

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, November 29, 2010 5:11 PM

Looking real good Bill

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, November 29, 2010 5:36 PM

Yes Looking awesome! Yes You are almost there... it is only 93.7 percent completed.  Don't ask me how I came up with this number...

Andy

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 29, 2010 6:27 PM

Thanks anthony!

Andy, it's a proven fact that over 63.4% of statistics are just made up. Wink Appreciate the comments as always! Beer

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Posted by panzerguy on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:49 PM

     I thought this one would be done by now there BillWink  I'm getting cough up around here and I thought that I was going to have to look a few pages back to find this one.

   The camo looks great along with everything else of course. Cant wait to see it with the tracks on

   Just gotta love that about the Germans they do the most intricate camo schemes and then put bright red numbers on the sideConfused

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by JohanT on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:07 PM

I like the way you have reproduced the "simple" pattern over such a complex stucture without loosing the visual context.
It looks right and the that is further supported with all the care that goes into the detail.

Thank You again for sharing!

Very Best Regards
Johan

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:52 PM

Steve!, nice to see you around these parts again. I hear you about thinking this one would be done by now, it's been somewhat of a start-and-stop build for sure but almost there! You're right about the hull numbers paradox, but then at this point in the war they were more concerned with hiding from the air than anything else so it makes sense from that vantage point I suppose.

Johan, thanks very much for the compliments and glad you like the scheme. It was a challenge to apply it freehand but I worked slowly and "wrapped" the pattern around the vehicle as best as possible to keep it consistent.

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Posted by Bodge on Wednesday, December 1, 2010 1:51 PM

VERRRRRRRRY NICE Bill, I do like this camo scheme a lot. You have pulled it off nicely mateStick out tongue

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, December 1, 2010 10:38 PM

Thanks Andy, much appreciated! Beer

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