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#6 OLD Tamiya Panzer IV Ausf H WIP- COMPLETED!

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Friday, September 9, 2011 9:54 AM

Bill- I didn't realize MK doesn't offer Winterketten tracks... maybe I will just grab the Magic Track set from my Pz III Ausf N Dragon kit this time.  Thanks for letting me know. Beer

Psstoff- I have to say that I learned a great deal this time using the brown wash.  In the future I would make sure that dunky and dark green are lighter since they will go dark after the washing job.  Don't forget to allow the washes dry for at least 15-30 minutes then use a thinner and big flat brush to make streaks.  Again thanks for stopping by!

Marc- Great to have you back!  Wondered about you recently.  Congrats abt your Marder in recent FSM issue!  Now I want to watch Wayne's World with my boys... I don't think they have seen it. Big Smile  Thanks for the comment!

Doog- You are way too nice!  I showed my wife what you said... she have seen your articles and work in FSM.  She gave me a kiss... I was hoping for more!  Maybe next time? 

If I had to do it again, I would have ordered the spockets and idlers upgrade set from MK or something like that.  But I was trying to cut down on the spending $$$ part.  Thanks again for taking your time. 

Kenny- I think I am a big fan of Pz IVs now... you can always read more of my work in Ostfront GB.  Thanks for dropping by! Beer

Andy

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#6 OLD Tamiya Panzer IV Ausf H WIP- 99% completed. Help!
Posted by deafpanzer on Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:27 PM

Guys- Again thanks for your comments.  I am almost done with it... I only need to do TWO MORE things then I am going to call this done.  Of course I still have to work on the figures for this. 

I am experiencing brain f@rt right now.  I believe its green for the convoy lights on the left fender.   My reference books didn't say what color and all color pictures in the books were missing this set. 

I applied MIG pigments to the panzer... mixture of Europe dust and rubble.  I wanted lighter tone just like shown in the picture. 

 Everything went good except for the exterior part of skirts and I am now concerned because I am not sure how to fix this.  You can see where MIG pigment dried or didn't blend well at the top of skirts.

I was aiming to have heavier dust and dirt at the bottom of skirts.  I mixed MIG pigment with filtered water and a drop of dish soap.  Maybe I added too much soap causing this?

 I found this strange because I didn't have any issue on the interior side of skirts as you can see below.

How would you have this fixed?  I was thinking about applying very light coat of MIG Thinner or Fixer to make the streaks go away? Or dry brush using MIG Thinner or Fixer?  HELP! 

Thanks again for looking... Beer

Andy

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Posted by deafpanzer on Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:33 PM

Hi again!  I googled for convoy light and found this picture of actual item... it looks more of black than dark green.  I can get away by applying raw umber instead of painting green.

If the lights were on, it would look like this...

Andy

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, September 10, 2011 3:41 PM

Top lights are indeed green Andy as your second pic indicates.

The tide marks you have on the top of the schurzen can likely be easily fixed using a dampened wet (water) q-tip to remove and/or blend away the tide marks (assuming you haven't already fixed them in position with thinner that is).

Not sure why exactly you got those tide marks other than probably due to gravity and/or slight "tooth" in those areas that just pulled the pigments in as the water you used dried.

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, September 10, 2011 5:37 PM

Hi, Andy looking cool real cool. as an all rounder I think you have surpassed what I believe should be expected from these older kits, I know they were the only game in town for a long time and well you have done a superb job.

Terry.

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#6 OLD Tamiya Panzer IV Ausf H WIP- COMPLETED!
Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, September 12, 2011 10:14 PM

Bill- THANK YOU SO MUCH! Yes, damp q-tip did the trick. Whew!  Looks like I owe you another Beer  I hope you remember how many I owe you because I lost count long time ago...

Terry- You are way too nice! Embarrassed  I'd love to build another old kit again... maybe not for a while after doing Italeri M24 and this kit.  Thank you for dropping by! Yes

Guys- I am happy to call this done.  I present you Tamiya Panzer IV Ausf H that was first released 36 years ago back in 1975.  Hope this doesn't make you feel that old, huh? Stick out tongue

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG_3159.jpg 

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG_3151.jpg 

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG_3149.jpg 

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG_3164.jpg 

Closer shots of the skirts...

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG_3148.jpg 

Inside the skirts...

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG_3163.jpg 

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG_3161.jpg 

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG_3154.jpg 

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG_3168.jpg 

I sure had too much fun building this old kit except for the tracks like I mentioned earlier.  I find hard to believe I was only five years old when this kit first came out. 

Thank you for your comments and feedback you have shared earlier during my build. Beer

Andy

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, September 12, 2011 10:46 PM

Andy - LOVE IT! Dig the entire thing, and know the distance between the old Tamiya kit and the newer Dragons in terms of detail, yours would fool anybody, in my opinion. Enter this sucker in a contest STAT!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, September 12, 2011 11:34 PM

I'm still older then that kit Andy. Wink

It's been an enjoyable WIP to follow Andy, and the best way to sum up that camo job is to quote Darrell Sheets from Storage Wars, "Now that's the wow factor!"

Super build bud.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, September 12, 2011 11:44 PM

Too bad this didn't happen on the bottom portion of the skirts.

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/IMG01017-20110910-1016.jpg


This is what I call a "happy accident". Remember how you did it as it could be a valuable effect for a later project.

You're really doing a fine job on this build Andy.

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Posted by ogrejohn on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:31 AM

That is definitely going to have to be in the show at Indy next year Andy. You have done a great job on it!

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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:23 AM

Looks like that Panzer is ready to trundle right off the screen!Excellant job!

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:06 AM

Doogs- It was fun building our Pz IVs for Ostfront GB.  Hope we can do it again.  I have signed up for Blitz in the West GB Eric (Tigerman) is leading.  Will think about entering it at a local contest... normally I just do it for fun.  Thanks again! 

Tigerman- Thank you Eric!  I do recall you are only few years older than this kit. Whistling  You might think I am crazy... I have been thinking about doing one of those crazy French camo scheme on my Char B1 for your GB. Indifferent

DM- Exactly!  Good thing because of the brackets, the skirts were not laying flat as it tilted a bit toward to the bottom part leaving the top part to dry faster.  I think this is what caused this.  Still learning and forums here are still the best place for me... thanks for dropping by!

John- Hey my Hoosier buddy!  Glad you liked it.  I might enter it at the show only if you do the same with your Jagd! Big Smile  Knowing myself, modeling is a fun hobby not a competition for me but I will think about it.  I forgot what are the prizes if somebody wins at the contests... nice looking ladies in bikinis presenting me an award or something like that? Heart   No, maybe an old overweight man blowing me a kiss instead of ladies?  Broken Heart Indifferent

TD- Thanks man! Maybe a 3-D computer screen would be next... there are 3-D TVs out there now.  Beer 

 

Andy

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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:18 AM

deafpanzer

Doogs- It was fun building our Pz IVs for Ostfront GB.  Hope we can do it again.  I have signed up for Blitz in the West GB Eric (Tigerman) is leading.  Will think about entering it at a local contest... normally I just do it for fun.  Thanks again! 

You know, when Pz.III ends, I think an Official Pz.IV and Variants would be a perfect follow-up... 

Well...it would be if anybody made any Panzer IV kits. You'd think Dragon would at least have a few...Whistling

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by detailfreak on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:30 AM

                          Andy,the old Tamiya H is a testament to your ever improving skills as a modeler.Don't sweat those little things,trying to fix them could go the wrong way. Set her on a shelf and show it off my friend.YesYes

 

                                                      Greg"Detailfreak"RowleyYes

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:03 PM

Outstanding work on this one Andy! Beer No worries on the "owed" count front...that's what the forums are all about. Wink

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:24 PM

Some of the best looking armor I've seen in here in a long time...weathering, IMO, is perfect...Yes...

I do hope that the tiny base she is sitting on was just a temporary platform for pics...Whistling

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  • From: Allentown, PA
Posted by BaBill212 on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:10 PM

Andy,,,       Fantastic job!  It sure did turn out great...  quite the tribute to the old kit to boot.

Thanks very much for sharing

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:37 PM

Good job!! I enjoyed going though your build of an "old model". I build that one years ago and mine never came close to how yous came out.

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:32 PM

Doogs- I won't be surprised if there will be another Pz IV GB.  They had one last year... just look out for the 1,000 wheels GB badge some guys are still wearing with pride.  Dupes led that GB... maybe when timing is right he will lead one again.

Detailfreak- Always good hearing from you my friend!  Thanks for the nice words.  Can't wait to build your kit next... Imperial StuG III Ausf F/8.  I might name it 'Greg'.  Beer

Bill- Along with many virtual Beer I have sent over, I wouldn't have done better without your help and tips shared by other masters here in FSM.  Here's my another Beer... hope you are not driving tonight. 

Andy

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  • From: Buffalo, NY
Posted by macattack80 on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:42 PM

WOW!   Outstanding build!  Weathering looks top notch!  Bow Down

Kevin

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Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:54 PM

Eric Von Manstein- Thank you very much for the compliment!  Getting one from a field marshall is truly a big honor.  Does it means I will get a badge from you finally? Big Smile  Like I said, I learned great deal from you guys here in FSM after years of lurking.

Bill- I know it is not a 1/48 or 1/72 scale but its as old as many kits in your stash.  Safe to say you will see me more in Pz III GB soon... I still have several figures to finish.  Glad you stopped by!  Beer

KY Colonel- Thanks for dropping by!  It looks like many of us have built this kit years ago.  I did the same when I was maybe 14 or 15 years old... see below.  

It survived the "Massacre of North Tonawanda" when my mother got rid of my built models several years after I moved out.  Few kits were inside unmarked box in the basement... I have it sitting on not far from my work bench as a reminder of my childhood. 

 

Andy

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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:57 PM

Hi Andy, I didn't really know you until I met you in our shared GB....to bad for me.. I almost missed this exceptional build !  Excellent results!..., I am going back to page # 1 and read the whole thing.

Super jobYesYes

treadCool

 

   

 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:05 PM

Fantastic outcome Andy,your work is getting better and better

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Posted by BaBill212 on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:41 PM

Beer  Beer  Beer      Cheers Andy,,,  see you in the pz III GB

Enjoy the ride!

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:15 PM

Mac- Many thanks!  I have been to Buffalo last July to see my parents and family.  I didn't have the chance to visit Ace Hobby in Niagara Falls that I have been hearing about.  Maybe next time!  Which shop do you like to shop in Buffalo other than one I have been to next to Galleria Mall?

Treadwell- I do remember seeing your outstanding work when I joined two years ago.  Am looking forward to the BITW GB but first I need to build my StuG III.  If you want to look at my WIP, you can see them at my photobucket account... plenty of pictures in there.

http://s713.photobucket.com/albums/ww137/aleffler/Panzer%20IV%20Ausf%20H/#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ20 

Thanks for taking your time!  And did I ever tell you how much I love your avatar lady... Flower

Anthony- Glad you liked my build!  We have gone long way since my first GB we were in together 8 Wheel if I am correct.

Andy

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  • From: Buffalo, NY
Posted by macattack80 on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:39 PM

deafpanzer

Mac- Many thanks!  I have been to Buffalo last July to see my parents and family.  I didn't have the chance to visit Ace Hobby in Niagara Falls that I have been hearing about.  Maybe next time!  Which shop do you like to shop in Buffalo other than one I have been to next to Galleria Mall?

 

Not a problem.  I have been wanting to get a Panzer IV for some time.  Seeing your build made me order one.  Thank you.  Big Smile

I usually go to Ace up in the Falls. Ron keeps an interesting selection available there.   Every now and again I will go to Niagara Hobby by the Galleria Mall.  My kids love all the train stuff they have there.  Plus they have every color paint offered by Model Master and Tamiya. Yes

Kevin

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Posted by psstoff995's lbro on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:28 PM

Great work Andy!! YesYes

Turned out fantastically. Glad you could fix those weird pigment buildup marks. I'm in Huntersville, NC on my way down to Ft. Benning, GA to see my brother, but as soon as I get back I'm going to start the painting process for my KT camo pattern. You've inspired me to knock it out before first quarter ends for school.Big Smile

-Will young modeler Test fit master
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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:23 AM

Hey Andy, fantastic job! Love how she came out. The Tamiya kit is a little old but as you showed here it only takes a little extra elbow grease to turn her into a winner.

And my first 1/35th tank was a Panzer IV though the Italeri kit instead of the Tamiya.

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Thursday, September 15, 2011 2:33 PM

Psstoff- If you are going to Fort Benning, can you check if there will be a museum for all of the tanks from Fort Knox?  I am not sure if I am correct but somebody said all tanks were heading there... if so, then I will make a trip to see that place one day!  Have a safe trip and tell your brother we say thanks for his service! 

Gamera-  Thanks! Yes  This is the main reason why I wanted to build this kit because it was a great kit 25 years and I had fun 25 years ago... for now I am taking a break from building old kits after that Italeri Chaffee you saw in Korea War GB and Tamiya Panzer IV. Stick out tongue

 

 

 

 

Andy

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  • From: Rugby, England
Posted by Hinksy on Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:57 AM

Hey Andy,

SOOOOPERB! Wow, you've really set the bar high with this build! Your Pz III for the GB will have to be something really special to better this one!

This kit is what, 4 years older than me and it looks a lot better than me too so top marks.

The cammo is just perfect, the weathering bang on and the overall quality of work - amazing.

Very well done matey. Now let's see a Panzer III!

All the best,

Ben Toast

On the Bench - Dragon Pz. IV Ausf. G (L.A.H.) Yes

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