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Rescuing a 1/35 Hetzer & Getting Some Hairspray Practice Too!

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  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Rugby, England
Posted by Hinksy on Saturday, December 17, 2011 5:08 PM

T26E4

If I may: I disagree w/Supressionfire about the salt method. It's an all or none kind of deal.  You sprinkle salt, paint, and remove all the paint on top of the salt.

With hairspray, you just scrub until it looks good.  You can moderate the wear to a great deal --- from subtle to heavy paint wear.  I find salt method style to be too harsh and unforgiving.  That's my opinion.

Hi guys,

A couple of questions before I go to bed?

  • Should I do any washes etc on the Hetzer as it is now pre whitewash or should I just do the decals and the Klear, add the hairspray and white base then use that as my starting point for weathering?
  • Should I thin the white paint with water or normal thinner?
  • I'm assumming the Balkenrauz should be left visible? If so should there be a rough patch where it's been left clear surrounding it?
  • Should I start the whitewash scrubbing and chipping as soon as the white has set i.e. just dry to the touch?
  • Any other tips?
  • I do want to try the salt method too but this is the one method I want to perfect first.

Cheers fellas,

Ben

On the Bench - Dragon Pz. IV Ausf. G (L.A.H.) Yes

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Posted by T26E4 on Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:45 PM

If I may: I disagree w/Supressionfire about the salt method. It's an all or none kind of deal.  You sprinkle salt, paint, and remove all the paint on top of the salt.

 

With hairspray, you just scrub until it looks good.  You can moderate the wear to a great deal --- from subtle to heavy paint wear.  I find salt method style to be too harsh and unforgiving.  That's my opinion.

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:03 PM

It will be interesting to watch this one return from the dead. Going to be quite different then the original.

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  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Rugby, England
Posted by Hinksy on Saturday, December 17, 2011 2:59 PM

Hey SF,

The Scheme looked VERY good until I hit it with that bloody rattlecan gloss!

This was done a long time ago and I was still learning big time. I wasn't too clued up on filters back then and didn't know about Vallejo Acrylic Varnishes which you use in the air brush - I use the Vallejo varnishes now.

I could have kept the basecoat on as it was but the MIG whitewash had left a sort of residue and I don't know how it would have liked the Klear coat. I like the Dunky colour on it's own and thought a fresh surface would work well so it got covered up.

The plan is to probably remove the Schurzen, replace the band tracks with Friuls, fit new decals and weather as normal. I'll then hit it with the Klear and Hairspray and take it from there. This will be a nice little project imo!

Cheers,

Ben Toast

On the Bench - Dragon Pz. IV Ausf. G (L.A.H.) Yes

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  • From: Truro Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted by SuppressionFire on Saturday, December 17, 2011 2:28 PM

Thinking the new coat of TS-3 is a bit drastic as the Ambush scheme looked good.

Anyhow now you are set for a whitewash! Unless the whitewash was applied at the factory DO weather, wash and damage the TS-3 as per a used vehicle.

Now the vehicle looks like it served a few weeks outdoors you are ready for the hairspray!

For chipped areas salt is still king, apply with water and allow to dry. The hairspray drys fairly quick and flat yet do practice before committing. Once the white is dry to the touch start your weathering of it, if its stubborn wet the area to loosen the hairspray.

Have fun & post the WIP's!

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  • Member since
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  • From: Rugby, England
Rescuing a 1/35 Hetzer & Getting Some Hairspray Practice Too!
Posted by Hinksy on Saturday, December 17, 2011 2:13 PM

Hi guys,

No wip on the Tiger I for today as I'm working from home. The phone has been been very busy and as it's the basecoat I'm wanting to apply there's no way I'm going to get the ab rigged up and loaded if there's a chance I'm going to get called away on a 20 minute phonecall! I've got tomorrow but after Wednesday I've got two weeks off for Christmas (most of it pre-booked holiday) so there's no rush - I'm doing a proper job!

Some of you may recall my building of the Tamiya Hetzer last year. It turned out great but the Humbrol rattlecan solvent gloss coats really killed my great Ambush Scheme paintwork. Look how dull it went - the DY should be the same colour as the grouser box!

So, I've been using it as a test bed for various things and the last application it had was the MIG whitewash in a bottle - it hasn't been touched since then.

Lately, I've found myself wanting to try the hairspray method on a few builds but having only used it on tools and barrels I'm in need of practice so I'm bringing this Hetzer back to it's full glory by painting it with an all-over DY coat (I've got a brand new rattlecan of Tamiya TS-3 Dark Yellow which is a great colour), applying fresh decals and applying Future/Klear to seal and to help with the Hairspray whitewash. I'll be applying Flat White (Tamiya) and will be hairspray chipping it to see how it turns out. I've got a full PE fret from the Dragon Marder III M that didn't happen so I'll be replacing the Grouser box with a PE one - this one actually has holes in it!

If it turns out ok I'll try and fit the Friuls which are ready to go as I assembled them a while back. If I use them I'll try and remove the Shurzen to be split up and leave a couple missing so the top run of the tracks can be seen.

It's a little side project - the Tiger takes priority but this will be fun and educational!

  • How she looks now with the MIG whitewash applied straight from the bottle:

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  • How she looks now with some light passes of the Rattlecan TS-3 Dunky

 

There we go. Like I said, I think this will be a LOT of fun and if it goes wrong it's no major problem - I'll just try again. You wouldn't be wanting to try your first ever hairspray job on your new Dragon Tiger!

If anyone has anything to add regarding the best hairspray method I'd love to hear your tips. 

I'll keep you posted!

Ben Toast

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