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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:34 AM

I'd agree with Bish, the Firefly is a tank, an assault gun with a long gun is a tank killer.

It does bring up though stuff like the SU-152 'Animal Killer' (I love that name!) which was designed as an anti-infantry assault gun but when it was discovered that 152mm HE could rip the turret clean off a Panther or Tiger ended up being used as a tank killer too. Or Japanese SPGs that since they were the only AFVs with 75mm guns got pressed into service as tank destroyers.  

Just here to muddy the waters still further!

PS: The more I think about it I agree with the rule of using vehicles purposely designed to hunt tanks rather than just is pressed into service because nothing better  is available so both examples above would be ruled out.  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:42 AM

I think I can get in with Dragon #6689 Pz.Kpfw.IV L/70(A).The long time frame will allow me to start later in the year after I clear up some other builds.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:06 PM

I managed to create 2 badges, but I'm not sure if you like them or not:

Bish came up with the idea to make one for each nation: Germany, Russia, America. I know there are other countries than those 3 but I'll only make a badge for them if someone actually builds a vehicle with that nationality...

Here's the German badge:

I decided to go with a Hetzer instead of the allmighty Jagdpanther because I think the latter is completely overused for badge designs. The font is meant to resemble the font used by the germans in WW2.

I also made a German Badge in German. It says "Jäger" Instead of "Hunters" which is basically the exact same thing. Being a German native speaker has its advantages, eh?

And here's another badge. The American one!

So what do you think? Are they good enough? They are designed in layers, so I can change the photos in the background at any time if you don't like them...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:07 PM

Please keep in mind that they are only the badge prototypes and the final badges will be scaled down a lot (working on big pictures is just way easier...)

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Posted by Eagle90 on Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:25 PM

AWESOME!  I like them a lot Clemens!  Great job.  What are you going to use for the Russian one?  Still not sure which one I'm going to commit to yet.  Heck,  I may do 2!  Thanks for running the GB Clemens.  This will be a good one!

Eagle90

 

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:27 PM

SS, could put up a short list of acceptable vehicles, I think it would eliminate a few questions and save you some headaches.  

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:30 PM

Many Thanks! I think I'll use a pic of an SU-100 with russian-looking letters and a star in the lower left corner...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:31 PM

Jibber: I already announced that I'd try to do that, but I need some help from you guys. There is no way i know all vehicles that fit in here...

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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, October 18, 2013 2:48 AM

Don't forget about the Italians, here's a couple of the better known ones :

Semovente 47/32

Semovente 90/53

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Bish on Friday, October 18, 2013 3:18 AM

Great work on the badges SS, the simple ones are often the best.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, October 18, 2013 7:55 AM

Bish: Thanks mate!

Jack: I didn't forget about the Italian vehicles, but I won't make a badge unless someone decides to build one and wants to have an Italian badge as well...

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, October 18, 2013 2:38 PM

I added a list of all the german vehicles I know to the front page

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, October 18, 2013 4:32 PM

How about modern/post WWII  AT vehicles like these?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, October 18, 2013 4:38 PM

I'm not sure if I want post WW2 vehicles in here... In case I allow them, all vehicles with actual guns are allowed, but I'm not too sure about those armed only with rockets... What do you think?

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Posted by Bish on Friday, October 18, 2013 4:40 PM

They are rockets that are designed to take out armour. Its just a missile instead of a gun.

Personally, I would say yes.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, October 18, 2013 5:10 PM

ATGMs to be exact. Anti Tank Guided Missiles. Modern tank killers.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Bish on Friday, October 18, 2013 5:13 PM

Ye, don't know why I said rockets. As an ex wire guided warrior, I should know better.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by bufflehead on Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:51 PM

Clemens, here's the link to the original Hunters GB from way back in 2008!  Maybe you can find some useful ideas for yours!  BTW, Eric (tigerman) also hosted that GB....it was a good one!

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/3/t/90481.aspx?sort=ASC&pi240=1

 

Ernest

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, October 21, 2013 6:28 AM

Don't forget the Hungrian SPG's that are out now

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, October 21, 2013 5:00 PM

I thought about adding modern TDs to the GB for some time now and I decided to leave them out. I think there are so many vehicles to choose from already that allowing those as well makes the theme of the GB too big. If you're all against that decision, please let me know, but I think it's better this way...

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, October 21, 2013 5:50 PM

No worries Clemens. I have my fingers in enough pies already...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Monday, October 21, 2013 6:36 PM

I'll have this one in a couple of days

Hope I can wait till Jan 1

Tony lee

Shoot Low Boys They're Ridin Ponys

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Posted by waynec on Monday, October 21, 2013 6:57 PM

i hvae a HETZER and an american halftrack with 75mm gun like at kasserine but was leaning toward a modern PLA 6x6 TD or an 8x8 CENTAURO TD, both guns not ATGMs

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

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Posted by bufflehead on Monday, October 21, 2013 8:40 PM

Pvt Mutt

I'll have this one in a couple of days

Hope I can wait till Jan 1

Tony lee

Tony, just what the heck is that?? Huh?  Looks more like a tank imposter than a tank destroyer!! Stick out tongue

Ernest

Last Armor Build - 1/35 Dragon M-26A1, 1/35 Emhar Mk.IV Female

     

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Monday, October 21, 2013 9:03 PM

It's a 4.7cm Pak(t) Sfl.auf Fgst. Pz.Kpfw.35 R 731(f)

French 35R chassis converted to an anti tank spg with the Czech AT gun.  200 produced

Cute huh?

Tony lee

Shoot Low Boys They're Ridin Ponys

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 21, 2013 11:21 PM

Clemons: I keep meaning to tell you and forgetting those are sharp looking badges.

If you're still compiling a list of various tank destroyers here are some US hardware I dug up:

M6 37mm GMC 'Fargo' (37mm gun mounted on a 3/4 ton truck by the Fargo Division of Chrysler)

T12 / M3 75mm GMC (halftrack)

M10

M18 Hellcat

M36

UK: Lend-Lease M3s and M10 (Achilles and Wolverine)

Free French: M3 and M10 (M36s used after the Second World War)

ROK: South Korea received several used US M36s during the Korean War

Soviet:

SU-85

SU-100

ISU-122

Probably others as well  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:42 AM

Tony: That's one insteresting looking TD! I really like the look of it. May I ask you what company produces a kit for that one?

Cliff: Thanks for the list, mate!

Wayne: Sorry, but no modern vehicles... The Heter would be a great subject though! Is that Halftrack an M3 GMC?

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:00 AM

Hobby Boss

Tony lee

Shoot Low Boys They're Ridin Ponys

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:28 PM

Cool box-art.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:40 PM

Ooh, the master himself is here! Bow Down

And that's a nice looking box art indeed!

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