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I'd agree with Bish, the Firefly is a tank, an assault gun with a long gun is a tank killer.
It does bring up though stuff like the SU-152 'Animal Killer' (I love that name!) which was designed as an anti-infantry assault gun but when it was discovered that 152mm HE could rip the turret clean off a Panther or Tiger ended up being used as a tank killer too. Or Japanese SPGs that since they were the only AFVs with 75mm guns got pressed into service as tank destroyers.
Just here to muddy the waters still further!
PS: The more I think about it I agree with the rule of using vehicles purposely designed to hunt tanks rather than just is pressed into service because nothing better is available so both examples above would be ruled out.
"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen
I think I can get in with Dragon #6689 Pz.Kpfw.IV L/70(A).The long time frame will allow me to start later in the year after I clear up some other builds.
I managed to create 2 badges, but I'm not sure if you like them or not:
Bish came up with the idea to make one for each nation: Germany, Russia, America. I know there are other countries than those 3 but I'll only make a badge for them if someone actually builds a vehicle with that nationality...
Here's the German badge:
I decided to go with a Hetzer instead of the allmighty Jagdpanther because I think the latter is completely overused for badge designs. The font is meant to resemble the font used by the germans in WW2.
I also made a German Badge in German. It says "Jäger" Instead of "Hunters" which is basically the exact same thing. Being a German native speaker has its advantages, eh?
And here's another badge. The American one!
So what do you think? Are they good enough? They are designed in layers, so I can change the photos in the background at any time if you don't like them...
Please keep in mind that they are only the badge prototypes and the final badges will be scaled down a lot (working on big pictures is just way easier...)
AWESOME! I like them a lot Clemens! Great job. What are you going to use for the Russian one? Still not sure which one I'm going to commit to yet. Heck, I may do 2! Thanks for running the GB Clemens. This will be a good one!
Eagle90
SS, could put up a short list of acceptable vehicles, I think it would eliminate a few questions and save you some headaches.
Many Thanks! I think I'll use a pic of an SU-100 with russian-looking letters and a star in the lower left corner...
Jibber: I already announced that I'd try to do that, but I need some help from you guys. There is no way i know all vehicles that fit in here...
Don't forget about the Italians, here's a couple of the better known ones :
Semovente 47/32
Semovente 90/53
regards,
Jack
Great work on the badges SS, the simple ones are often the best.
I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so
On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3
Bish: Thanks mate!
Jack: I didn't forget about the Italian vehicles, but I won't make a badge unless someone decides to build one and wants to have an Italian badge as well...
I added a list of all the german vehicles I know to the front page
How about modern/post WWII AT vehicles like these?
F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!
U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!
N is for NO SURVIVORS...
- Plankton
LSM
I'm not sure if I want post WW2 vehicles in here... In case I allow them, all vehicles with actual guns are allowed, but I'm not too sure about those armed only with rockets... What do you think?
They are rockets that are designed to take out armour. Its just a missile instead of a gun.
Personally, I would say yes.
ATGMs to be exact. Anti Tank Guided Missiles. Modern tank killers.
Ye, don't know why I said rockets. As an ex wire guided warrior, I should know better.
Clemens, here's the link to the original Hunters GB from way back in 2008! Maybe you can find some useful ideas for yours! BTW, Eric (tigerman) also hosted that GB....it was a good one!
http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/3/t/90481.aspx?sort=ASC&pi240=1
Ernest
Last Armor Build - 1/35 Dragon M-26A1, 1/35 Emhar Mk.IV Female
Last Aircraft Builds - Hobby Boss 1/72 F4F Wildcat & FW-190A8
Don't forget the Hungrian SPG's that are out now
I thought about adding modern TDs to the GB for some time now and I decided to leave them out. I think there are so many vehicles to choose from already that allowing those as well makes the theme of the GB too big. If you're all against that decision, please let me know, but I think it's better this way...
No worries Clemens. I have my fingers in enough pies already...
I'll have this one in a couple of days
Hope I can wait till Jan 1 Tony lee
Hope I can wait till Jan 1
Tony lee
Shoot Low Boys They're Ridin Ponys
i hvae a HETZER and an american halftrack with 75mm gun like at kasserine but was leaning toward a modern PLA 6x6 TD or an 8x8 CENTAURO TD, both guns not ATGMs
Никто не Забыт (No one is Forgotten)Ничто не Забыто (Nothing is Forgotten)
Pvt Mutt I'll have this one in a couple of days Hope I can wait till Jan 1 Tony lee
Tony, just what the heck is that?? Looks more like a tank imposter than a tank destroyer!!
It's a 4.7cm Pak(t) Sfl.auf Fgst. Pz.Kpfw.35 R 731(f)
French 35R chassis converted to an anti tank spg with the Czech AT gun. 200 produced
Cute huh?
Clemons: I keep meaning to tell you and forgetting those are sharp looking badges.
If you're still compiling a list of various tank destroyers here are some US hardware I dug up:
M6 37mm GMC 'Fargo' (37mm gun mounted on a 3/4 ton truck by the Fargo Division of Chrysler)
T12 / M3 75mm GMC (halftrack)
M10
M18 Hellcat
M36
UK: Lend-Lease M3s and M10 (Achilles and Wolverine)
Free French: M3 and M10 (M36s used after the Second World War)
ROK: South Korea received several used US M36s during the Korean War
Soviet:
SU-85
SU-100
ISU-122
Probably others as well
Tony: That's one insteresting looking TD! I really like the look of it. May I ask you what company produces a kit for that one?
Cliff: Thanks for the list, mate!
Wayne: Sorry, but no modern vehicles... The Heter would be a great subject though! Is that Halftrack an M3 GMC?
Hobby Boss
Cool box-art.
Eric
Ooh, the master himself is here!
And that's a nice looking box art indeed!
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