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Merit 1/18th 88mm Flak 36 WiP (Completed pics Page 6)

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Posted by jibber on Monday, February 17, 2014 4:29 PM

Bish I've been following along and it really looking fantastic. I can't believe how you've addressed every detail and were able to make all those modifications. Any thoughts of what you'll do with it?  

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Posted by DUSTER on Monday, February 17, 2014 9:46 PM

Bish you ol' air defence dog you . You have certainly made a magical transformation of the plain kit.  The added/ improved details are great. 

 Oh I noticed that Roy seems to have missed telling you, the 47th bolt on the right....just over there.... is not torqued to the exact required specs. But I'm sure you have it on your to do list .

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, February 20, 2014 3:49 PM

DUSTER

Bish you ol' air defence dog you . You have certainly made a magical transformation of the plain kit.  The added/ improved details are great. 

 Oh I noticed that Roy seems to have missed telling you, the 47th bolt on the right....just over there.... is not torqued to the exact required specs. But I'm sure you have it on your to do list .

Slack nuts, slack crew as we used to say. I guess the crew of this gun need a bit of a talking to Wink

Thanks Duster. I have spent the last couple of nights dry brushing with oils. So tomorrow night I will give it all a couple of coats of future mixed with Tamiya flat base and then doing the weathering over the weekend, I plan on using AK's range of DAK products.

jibber, thanks. I am in the process of making a base. The gun will be sat on a patch of desert sand, it come with an ammunition box and 4 shell's, so I will add them. I am also making some badges out of MDF for it.

After that, I need to work out where I am putting it, the base is pretty big.

 

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Posted by T26E4 on Friday, February 21, 2014 6:58 AM

@ Duster/Steve: I'm not sure if you're trying to throw some underhanded jab at me.  Perhaps calling out the "rivet counter" pejorative on me.  Something I've posted seems to have put you off.  I dunno.

I'm sure it's pretty obvious that Bish wanted to go to an extreme level of accuracy, correction and detailing.  Thus, I provided him info that furthered his journey.  I wouldn't toss out small nitpicks if that wasn't the flavor of his build.  Perhaps Bish, on another day or another project, wouldn't like this level of "advice".  To me, it seems he welcomed it.  Indeed, he's gone after things that I wouldn't have had the patience to do so.

Thanks for making sure I'm not a know-it-all dropping unsolicited advice to random modelers -- but I've gotten nothing from Bish but "please more".

Roy Chow 

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, February 21, 2014 2:11 PM

Looks good under paint Bish! Nice solution to the DAK badge. Got to love all the little details you're adding especially in this scale. Beer

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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, February 21, 2014 2:40 PM

Painting up real nice Bish

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Posted by DUSTER on Saturday, February 22, 2014 3:09 AM

T26E4

@ Duster/Steve: I'm not sure if you're trying to throw some underhanded jab at me.  Perhaps calling out the "rivet counter" pejorative on me.  Something I've posted seems to have put you off.  I dunno.

I'm sure it's pretty obvious that Bish wanted to go to an extreme level of accuracy, correction and detailing.  Thus, I provided him info that furthered his journey.  I wouldn't toss out small nitpicks if that wasn't the flavor of his build.  Perhaps Bish, on another day or another project, wouldn't like this level of "advice".  To me, it seems he welcomed it.  Indeed, he's gone after things that I wouldn't have had the patience to do so.

Thanks for making sure I'm not a know-it-all dropping unsolicited advice to random modelers -- but I've gotten nothing from Bish but "please more".

Roy
No, I was not throwing anything at or to or for you. Your skills are well known and visible at every showing.  This also applies to the amount of knowledge you have about the armor category and your dedication to this hobby.  So please don't take anything, I have sent, to be construed as being directed to you or your willingness to help a fellow modeler, raise the bar of his abilities.  My including your name was my mistake, so of course it would cause you to wonder and be irritated by my post.
 My message to Bish was meant as a well-deserved complement for his work on this build.  Added was a left handed complement, as it were, for him in light of the care and skill he has shown in his build. 

Steve

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Posted by T26E4 on Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:16 PM

thnx steve.  I was a bit defensive about that.  Thanx for taking time to reply.  Greatly appreciated.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, February 23, 2014 2:27 PM

Steve, I know your comment was sent all in good faith. But I understand Roy getting a bit defensive as this is rather a touchy subject and I know both Roy, myself and others have been ridiculed for simply trying to help others and offer advice.

But no harm done and nice to see there's no hard feelings. This is all meant to be fun after all. And Roy, I just want to add again that your help is not only welcome but essential. I could have built this as it came, hopefully had a nice enough build and been finished a month ago and moved onto the next one. But that's just not me and I wouldn't have been satisfied with it. I did notice something else the other day that I had missed and that's the cables for the sights. So I have added this. Unfortunatly, I used up all of the paint mix I had, so its a bit darker than the rest at the moment.

Now, onto the make or break part, weathering. Just wanted to get this in before the weekend was over.  I spent this week dry bruising with oils. After that I added the filters. I am using AK interactive DAK filter and wash. Its the first time I have used a filter and I am not sure what I was expecting. It has certainly changed the colour slightly, but I seem to recall it being said that filters add depth, but I just can't see it. And I was under the impression it would leave a semi gloss finish, but it is more flat than it was before. But the washes seem to be going down ok. I haven't added all the washes yet and have still to remove most of the excess.

 

Lots more wash to add, there is a lot of nooks and crannies on this to get into. 

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by DUSTER on Sunday, February 23, 2014 10:27 PM

As we end this unfortunate saga; I'll just go over here in the corner and quietly  watch    the fascinating  evolution of little parts into major assemblys ;   I won't say a thing...........well, maybe a small comment or two or three or ...?  as the progress continues...  

 After all why would I want to mess with a guy that has an 88mm flack gun to point in my direction?!? Even in scale that  thing would hurt!

                     see ya!                  

 

 

Steve

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Posted by JohanT on Monday, February 24, 2014 8:30 AM

@ Bish, you are on the mark m8, keep the progress pictures coming :)

The issue with the filters, could it be the scale effect?

@ Roy, keep supporting!

@ Duster, I smiled at your first note - you gotta love this hobby for all its worth - right?

Very Best Regards

Johan

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Posted by Bish on Monday, February 24, 2014 12:29 PM

Thanks Johan. I am not sure if its so much an issue but maybe me not being sure what to expect. The more I look at it, especially under light, the more I can see depth there, I think I am getting it.

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:27 PM

Haven't been able to get by in a little while to the forums but have managed to catch the update on this one at just the right stage Bish. Nice work with the washes, definitely brings out the detail. As for the filter, the effects of a filter are typically subtle and it sounds like once the filter has dried, you're seeing more of its effects on the finish. Wink

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:42 PM

Thanks a lot bill. I have spent most of this last week finishing the washes, which themselves took a few days, and the base. But tonight I am getting to the bear metal areas and will get some pics up in a day or so.

But I am glad you checked in as I wanted to ask you something. I was reading up on your Tiger build about applying the pastels and wanted your opinion, and anyone else's who might have a view.

I know on the Tiger you were doing dry mud which is of course different to the dry sand that I will be doing. But do you think the same technique would work. And also, given the much larger scale, do you think the pastel's would still work.

I am using AK pastel rather than MiG's but am not sure if the pastel's will look right on such a large scale.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:00 PM

Finally time for another up date on my 88. All of the washes and chipping are now done and the bare metal bits have been painted.

 And a close up of the recoil indicator. I had removed the moulded on one and have replaced it with styrene strip.  

Next up will be finishing and fitting the tools before adding the dust effects. So almost there. 

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by jibber on Wednesday, March 5, 2014 5:31 PM

Bish the wash looks awesome. Its amazing how it changes the look and adds so much depth.  

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:58 PM

Thnaks, ye I agree it makes a lot of difference.

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Posted by bufflehead on Thursday, March 6, 2014 8:58 PM

Hey Bish, I've been absent from the forums for a couple of months and am just getting caught up on things.  Last I remember you were just getting this big gun started and I finished reading your blog back from the beginning!  I've got to say what a great job you've done!  The detail work you put in this is fantastic and the paint job is looking awesome!  I REALLY love how the sand color is coming along...the filters and washes add perfect depth to the paint job!  Work or not, I'm going to make it a point to check back on this one...I have to see the finished product!!  

Ernest

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 7, 2014 8:11 AM

Thanks Ernest, I will try to avoid keeping you away from work for to much longer.

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Posted by JohanT on Monday, March 10, 2014 2:47 PM

Hi Bish;

You are getting very good results with your weathering technique, I am totally amazed on the level of detail you bring out.

For the shiny metal parts, recoil cylinders, sliding rail, breach block...

Blackened grease as a semi gloss transparent layer?

Thank you for sharing, checking in on a daily basis :)

Very Best Regards

Johan

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Posted by Bish on Monday, March 10, 2014 2:53 PM

Thanks Johan. For those bare metal parts, I mixed steel with a touch of raw umber oil paint, using the photo's you guys provided, I think my mix is pretty close.

Its just about done. All the assemblies are together and its on the base, just got to add the pigments. Its in the airing cupboard to dry out the celluclay,that and I have no where else to store it at the moment. Should have the final pics in a day or two.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, March 10, 2014 5:39 PM

Wow,the wash and wear are looking real good

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Posted by Eagle90 on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:39 AM

There are no words my friend!  Amazing.......amazing!  The wash is awesome!

Eagle90

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:06 PM

Very nice progress! In regards to the question on the pigments, I think you'll be fine with it in this scale, you just may have to build it up a little bit more depending on how 'heavy' you want it to look when all said and done. HTH!

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:09 PM

Thanks guys. Bill, ye, that's what I have been doing.Its hard to see it on the desert scheme, but on the parts, tires, tools etc its looking really nice.

Its just about done now. I am just finishing off my Stormtrooper for the Hollywood GB and my mug to arrive for the Hero's and villains GB and then I can get all the finished pics done in one go

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:07 PM

Ok guys, wait is over, I am calling this done.

Bill, I really like the effect that's been left with those pigments. You can really pile up the dust in areas were it would build up, so thanks for that tip.

After everything was put together, I sprayed on AK's dust effects. Once that was dry, I used their pigments mixed with water to add some heavy dusting. I rather like the end result. Though in some of the pics, some areas show up as a bright yellow the real thing isn't quite as bright as that. I also added some chain to the sides of the gun and the box's on the trailers.

I was originally going to make the badges from printing my own decals. But after chatting to plasticjunkie, I decided to try making them out of 6mm MDF. I kept it simple, the 88, I don't think it needs and more of an intro than that, and the DAK insignia.

So, here's the pics.

Thanks to all those who followed along, I hope the wait was worth it. And a huge thank you to all those who offered advice, links and there own pics, especially Johan, Clemans and of course Roy. I really couldn't have pulled this off to this level without your help.

All comments welcome as always. And thanks again. 

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by jibber on Friday, March 14, 2014 9:08 AM

WOW Bish, what a beautiful build. This build and dio is something you should be very proud of. Your close-ups are great, thanks for sharing all the steps and again just WOW.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 14, 2014 9:24 AM

Thanks buddy. Now I just have to find some where to put it. Its rather large.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by jibber on Friday, March 14, 2014 1:26 PM

Send it to me….LOL

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 14, 2014 1:54 PM

Here you go buddy, all yours.  Gift

Big Smile

 

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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