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Takom Objekt 279: UPDATE! The Goon Squad and a new doog

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, June 28, 2014 6:33 AM

Stunning work as always karl, I know if anyone can pull off that look, its you.

And what a show of dedication to the hobby in getting another kit.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:49 AM

Bish

Stunning work as always karl, I know if anyone can pull off that look, its you.

And what a show of dedication to the hobby in getting another kit.

Thanks, Bish---that was a tough decision-and not cheap either--but I just couldn't live with it as it was. At least everything went quicker and smoother the second time around! Big Smile

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:54 AM

<p>Thanks too, Mike! Working hard here not to disappoint! </p>  

I've been rather inspired by this photo, for the figures....stuff of nightmares if you ask me!

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:56 AM

Well, you have to do what you have to do.

That photo is damn scary. I hope I never looked like that in full NBC. I'm just grateful we never had to use it for real.

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:00 PM

Yeah, it's like something out of a SCi-FI movie! I hope to make a base that can give the same general feeling. Really trying to think of something that will make people "Ooh and "Awww!".

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:47 PM

Ye, they look like something the Dr Who team might dream up.

Tough decision on the base. Have you tried looking at pics of Chernobyl. I know there wasn't a nuclear explosion, but it might give you some ideas, perhaps combined with images of the aftermath of an earth quake or volcanic eruption.

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:46 PM

That's a great idea, Bish. I've got to keep in mid that my setting should probably be in the 1950s. It's kinda hard to find diorama accessories from that era. I've really gotta wrack my brain to come up with something that's going to work.

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:55 PM

Karl, you think it looks like a nightmare.....you should try wearing the NBC gear, that is truly a nightmare!!

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:42 PM

WhooHoo, looking forward to seeing how this comes out more and more Karl!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, June 30, 2014 2:47 AM

Ye, I was thinking its 50/60's time frame. Are you thinking of having building rubble in there or more of a country setting. If the latter, the effects on trees could be something to consider. There is some footage of A-Bomb tests showing trees still standing or at worst snapped half way down the trunk. I would imagine these would be burnt on the side facing the blast.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, June 30, 2014 2:48 AM

redleg12

Karl, you think it looks like a nightmare.....you should try wearing the NBC gear, that is truly a nightmare!!

Rounds Complete!!

Now isn't that a fact. I remember doing my first section attack in full NBC when I was in depot. Not fun.

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Monday, June 30, 2014 3:17 AM

Hello!

Once I owned several of those gas masks - when I was in primary school, the socialism ended in Poland and one day they opened a big bunker that still stands in the middle of the building estate I was living in at that time, and there was a warehouse with those gas masks stockpiled - kids just got in and took them as souvenirs. I got mine as gifts from my school colleagues. They later all carried their books to school in the gas mask bags - that was a similar bag to the american Claymore bag.

The concept of those masks was you carry the filter in the bag all of the time, and when you put the headpiece on, it is connected to the filter with about one meter of hose, similar to the vacuum cleaner hose. I had this mask on several times - not a very nice feeling... Boy, am I glad I never HAD to use them!

Good luck with your project Karl, I'm sure it will be something special when done!

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by the doog on Monday, June 30, 2014 7:29 AM

Guys,

Thanks for all your posts and memories with your firsthand experiences with these things. It makes for interesting reading!

Bish

Ye, I was thinking its 50/60's time frame. Are you thinking of having building rubble in there or more of a country setting. If the latter, the effects on trees could be something to consider. There is some footage of A-Bomb tests showing trees still standing or at worst snapped half way down the trunk. I would imagine these would be burnt on the side facing the blast.

I want to make it somewhat "city-ish", but it will have to be in a concise sort of way. I don't want any 2' x 3' massive diorama taking up valuable display case. I'm thinking of like maybe a conspicuous highway or street setting which definitively confers an American city with a recognizable icon that isn't too huge---maybe a highway sign or something?

Like I said, lots to think about. I'm looking for "the perfect dio accessory", basically. Oh joy...Confused

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 30, 2014 8:34 AM

Maybe just an interstate section and a twisted and burned Route 66 (Route 666?) sign if you didn't want to do too much?

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by the doog on Monday, June 30, 2014 9:18 AM

Gamera

Maybe just an interstate section and a twisted and burned Route 66 (Route 666?) sign if you didn't want to do too much?

Wow, that's a really good idea---the iconic Route 66.....a good idea to pursue. Thanks for that idea, Gamera! I"ll have to look into the possibilities on this... Big Smile

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 30, 2014 11:27 AM

No problem Karl, I'm a fount of ideas- just too lazy to put most of them into action...Sleep

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Denver, Colorado
Posted by waynec on Monday, June 30, 2014 1:20 PM

the doog

Gamera

Maybe just an interstate section and a twisted and burned Route 66 (Route 666?) sign if you didn't want to do too much?

Wow, that's a really good idea---the iconic Route 66.....a good idea to pursue. Thanks for that idea, Gamera! I"ll have to look into the possibilities on this... Big Smile

i like the route 66 sign idea  too.  wilted tree dead ravens brown grass twisted rusted barbed wire fence section.

or park it next to a smashed GOLDEN ARCHES with a "we sell a thousand a day" sign.

yeah BISH MOPP 4 was no fun. at NTC the war basically stops during the day when in MOPP 4 but the weather isn't suited for gas warfare not unlike the sandbox. the grunts could drink water with their mask, we tankers had the hose attached to a filter in a bag. when you got in the tank you plugged the canister filter into the tank nbc system.

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

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Posted by the doog on Monday, June 30, 2014 2:14 PM

waynec

.... we tankers had the hose attached to a filter in a bag. when you got in the tank you plugged the canister filter into the tank nbc system.

Wayne that brings up a good point--do you think that the tank crew would have on the full suits here--the "raincoat" type thing? Or would they just wear the facemask with their regular uniforms? It would be cool to put a tanker looking out of the hatch with a goon mask on!

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, June 30, 2014 2:31 PM

I can't speak for the Russians or US forces dog, but even though our vehicles were could be sealed with a forced air system and special air filters for an NBC environment, we still had to wear the full suit when inside the vehicle. Its just not worth the risk.

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  • From: Puebla, Mexico
Posted by garzonh on Monday, June 30, 2014 2:42 PM

Hi,

Oh wow!!, that recent damage looks great!.

Sorry I've not being around, but work has been crazy.

I like very much this technique and looks very real.

Good work.

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  • From: Denver, Colorado
Posted by waynec on Monday, June 30, 2014 2:49 PM

the doog

waynec

.... we tankers had the hose attached to a filter in a bag. when you got in the tank you plugged the canister filter into the tank nbc system.

Wayne that brings up a good point--do you think that the tank crew would have on the full suits here--the "raincoat" type thing? Or would they just wear the facemask with their regular uniforms? It would be cool to put a tanker looking out of the hatch with a goon mask on!

hey DOOG - there were 4 levels of MOPP (Mission Oriented Protective Posture) in the us army. understand i am speaking from the late '70s.  MOPP 1 is having all your chem gear (booties, gloves, mask, suit available) and 4 is wearing EVERYTHING.  we always carried the masks in training no matter what.

our M60s didn't have the positive over pressure and, quite frankly, even if they did, i wouldn't trust the system that much. in any possible chem situation we would have the suit on but not the mask (our hood was attached to the mask). that way, when the alarm went off, it was just mask and gloves in maybe 11 seconds.

SO TO FINALLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION yes he could quite believably be hanging out the hatch completely suited up. you get the right camera angle and a bit of photoshopping and you could turn your 1950s picture into an alien invasion picture.insane ideas are already swirling through my head.

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
Ничто не Забыто  (Nothing is Forgotten)

 

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Posted by the doog on Monday, June 30, 2014 4:28 PM

Bish

I can't speak for the Russians or US forces dog, but even though our vehicles were could be sealed with a forced air system and special air filters for an NBC environment, we still had to wear the full suit when inside the vehicle. Its just not worth the risk.

Well that's GREAT news! I would assume that if we did it, THEY did it!

Goon Squad tanker on the way!!!

Thanks for the input, Bish! It's much apreciated!

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Posted by the doog on Monday, June 30, 2014 4:31 PM

waynec

the doog

waynec

.... we tankers had the hose attached to a filter in a bag. when you got in the tank you plugged the canister filter into the tank nbc system.

Wayne that brings up a good point--do you think that the tank crew would have on the full suits here--the "raincoat" type thing? Or would they just wear the facemask with their regular uniforms? It would be cool to put a tanker looking out of the hatch with a goon mask on!

hey DOOG - there were 4 levels of MOPP (Mission Oriented Protective Posture) in the us army. understand i am speaking from the late '70s.  MOPP 1 is having all your chem gear (booties, gloves, mask, suit available) and 4 is wearing EVERYTHING.  we always carried the masks in training no matter what.

our M60s didn't have the positive over pressure and, quite frankly, even if they did, i wouldn't trust the system that much. in any possible chem situation we would have the suit on but not the mask (our hood was attached to the mask). that way, when the alarm went off, it was just mask and gloves in maybe 11 seconds.

SO TO FINALLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION yes he could quite believably be hanging out the hatch completely suited up. you get the right camera angle and a bit of photoshopping and you could turn your 1950s picture into an alien invasion picture.insane ideas are already swirling through my head.

Thanks again, Wayne! great information, and together with Bish's posting, you guys have convinced me that a suited-up goon crewman could be plausibly put into the scene!

It should be really wicked-cool! Got an update coming right away....! Thanks again for your input and the great firsthand info!!!! If I write this up into an article, I"m going to mention you guys and thank you for the knowledge!

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Posted by the doog on Monday, June 30, 2014 4:31 PM

garzonh

Hi,

Oh wow!!, that recent damage looks great!.

Sorry I've not being around, but work has been crazy.

I like very much this technique and looks very real.

Good work.

Good to see you back! THanks for the positive comments! Smile

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Posted by the doog on Monday, June 30, 2014 4:37 PM

Well here's the painting update, completed.

I used the same technique to add a little more "scorching" around the various smaller protruding angles and projections; under the turret, along the side rails, etc. A little more "smoke" and soot along the hull as well... It looks a little more realistic now, I think? I gotta admit, I"m stoked at how the painting has turned out with basically zero weathering done at all yet! Time for washes and chips and pigments, etc. Here's the latest pics---stay tuned for the rest of the ride!

Thanks again for following along, guys! I appreciate all the suggestions and comments! Toast

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, June 30, 2014 4:55 PM

All that time sweating my 'bleep' off in an NBC sut, I never thought it would come in useful.

Loving the look of this, and I really like the scheme. I take it that's your own creation.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Monday, June 30, 2014 7:00 PM

Some very impressive layered results on display here Karl, very nice, love where you're taking this one including the figures. Beer

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 30, 2014 7:08 PM

Yes, very cool- I love the way you've feathered the scorched paint back away from the bow impact area.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, June 30, 2014 7:17 PM

Simply breathtaking work, Karl! I love every bit of your paint job! I got one of those Takom kits on it's way to me and I thought about doing something similar with it, but there's no way of my efforts coming even close to the masterpiece you created here... My hat's off to you!

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  • From: Toronto
Posted by Rob S. on Monday, June 30, 2014 9:05 PM

Great subject,and great looking build so far. Very interesting to watch this one come together. Thanks!

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