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Upcoming Modern Armor relases
Posted by stikpusher on Monday, July 20, 2015 2:13 PM

I stumbled across these announcements in the past few days... I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned them...

From Takom, a few Chieftain MBTs

and the new T-14!

and from Academy

Hooray! Not more of the same old thing for us treadheads!

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, July 20, 2015 2:21 PM

While these ain't my cup of tea, its certainly nice to see some more modern stuff. Even I think there are a few to many Tiger's and the like.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, July 20, 2015 2:24 PM

That Chieftain looks like it might be a good kit. Hard to tell from the 3D renderings though. The new Russian MBT looks like it still needs to be finished, as in it looks incomplete.

I've never been a fan of the M60A2.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, July 20, 2015 2:43 PM

All right Stik,giving the moden stuff some equal time.I have seen the Russian and don't like it's look,but that Chiefton looks mean

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Posted by T26E4 on Monday, July 20, 2015 4:11 PM

Over on Track-Link, they have a  DML announcement of an M60A2 MBT Starship (new tooling) as well!

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Posted by the doog on Monday, July 20, 2015 4:36 PM

Man, I'm loving the M60A2. Not too long ago, getting one of these on eBay would cost you a mortgage payment. I'm sure we'll be seeing a new M60 as well pretty soon---long overdue!!

That Chieftan is long overdue too!

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, July 20, 2015 5:45 PM

Yeah, I am most jazzed about the Starship myself. The late model Chieftains are high on my interest list as well. I am pretty sure that one of those Marks was the type used by the British Berlin Brigade in the most unique "urban camo" scheme. The T-14 does nothing for me... yet... They are still development tanks. But still, all in all a nice diverse mix of modern MBTs.

 

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Monday, July 20, 2015 7:35 PM

Chieftain brings back memories, watched one get jammed under a railroad bridge outside of Bad Munder, Germany fall of 79.  Lifted the bridge six inches off its mount, so they left it there for four weeks waiting permission from the authorities to move it.  Had to take the back route to the site, added 45 miles to my drive.

It is one big, big tank.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 3:07 AM

Bish

While these ain't my cup of tea, its certainly nice to see some more modern stuff. Even I think there are a few to many Tiger's and the like.

C'mon Bish... doesnt this scheme call out to you?

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 7:21 AM

Wow, that's pretty awesome SP! Btw is this the first new Chieftan kit since the older Tamiya one?

The M60 'Starship' is pretty cool too. A local museum used to pull one out once a year and run her over a small car for family day!

And the T-14, bit of an odd duck- I'm tempted to try to build one up with a bare-chested Putin as CO and a crew of bikini models...

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:39 AM

I like the way you think Gamera! That would be a great setting for the T-14. And yes, aside from an even older Nichimo kit, this is the first Chieftain kit released in 1/35 styrene since the Tamiya kit came out 35-40 years ago. And the two later Marks have not been available except as conversions.

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:06 PM

Thanks for posting those photos !

Not sure which is more desirable- the M60 A2 or the Chieftain Mk 11.Stick out tongue

Aw, heck !

Might wanna buy both.

I always knew I'd raid the Christmas money a bit early, anyway!Wink

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:08 PM

stikpusher

.................The T-14 does nothing for me... yet... They are still development tanks. But still, all in all a nice diverse mix of modern MBTs.

Now that you mention development tanks............
I've been wondering if the kit would look good sitting next to an MBT-70
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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:10 PM

Gamera

.................And the T-14, bit of an odd duck- I'm tempted to try to build one up with a bare-chested Putin as CO and a crew of bikini models...

Now if someone would only bring out  a set of 1/35 bikini models...............Stick out tongue
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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:34 PM

Sprue-ce Goose

Gamera

.................And the T-14, bit of an odd duck- I'm tempted to try to build one up with a bare-chested Putin as CO and a crew of bikini models...

Now if someone would only bring out  a set of 1/35 bikini models...............Stick out tongue

Well............

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And that's all I'm going to say, I'm already going to get into trouble and hope I don't get the thread locked... Whistling

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Posted by Sackgasse on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:55 PM

Hi stikpusher,

Thank you for posting this and the follow up pictures!

That Chieftain will be a must in my next year building budget.

I am a novice when it comes to Brittish AFV's, is the difference between #2027 and #2028 the addition of "Horse Shoe" armor similar to what the Russian had on the T62 as seen on Afganistan campaign vehicles?

The T14 Armata looks to much Маскировка (Maskirovka).
Understand that the design concept of the next generation AFV's is all new but this can hardly be the finnished MBT.

Interesting from a step change point of view but I will hold my horses until May 1st 2018.

Zack

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:14 PM

stikpusher

Bish

While these ain't my cup of tea, its certainly nice to see some more modern stuff. Even I think there are a few to many Tiger's and the like.

C'mon Bish... doesnt this scheme call out to you?

I don't know what those guys have been putting into the Tea, but I want some.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:25 PM

Gamera

Sprue-ce Goose

Gamera

.................And the T-14, bit of an odd duck- I'm tempted to try to build one up with a bare-chested Putin as CO and a crew of bikini models...

Now if someone would only bring out  a set of 1/35 bikini models...............Stick out tongue

Well............

Link to Dragon Website... 

And that's all I'm going to say, I'm already going to get into trouble and hope I don't get the thread locked... Whistling

Locked?
Dunno why anyone would do that over an image containing a Harley and Jeep.............Wink
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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:38 PM

Bish

stikpusher

Bish

While these ain't my cup of tea, its certainly nice to see some more modern stuff. Even I think there are a few to many Tiger's and the like.

C'mon Bish... doesnt this scheme call out to you?

I don't know what those guys have been putting into the Tea, but I want some.

Reminds me of pixels in early digital imaging technology - I cannot help but wonder how it would have looked in night vision devices of that era.Hmm
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A book was published in 2005 by Tankograd Publishing - Verlag Jochen Vollert
British special Nr. 9001
Die gepanzerten Fahzeug der British Infantry Brigade Berlin 
A useful book containing a number of detail photos of the Chieftain, 5 view paint scheme drawings in monochrome , as well as photos of other vehicles in the scheme: FV 432 / 30 ; FV432 Mk 2/1; FV434 ARV; FV 721; FV701.
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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 2:45 PM

Yeah, early NODs were pretty interesting to use. Before I retired I had a chance to use the latest aviator NVGs. I was blown away by their clarity and depth of field. Not to mention the compactness of the device itself. A huge improvement over the PVS-5s I used once upon a time.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 3:13 PM

Then there is the Dual Texture or Dual Tex camo used by the 2nd ACR in Germany in the early 80s. I wonder if they had any M60A2s?

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 4:15 PM

stikpusher

Yeah, early NODs were pretty interesting to use. Before I retired I had a chance to use the latest aviator NVGs. I was blown away by their clarity and depth of field. Not to mention the compactness of the device itself. A huge improvement over the PVS-5s I used once upon a time.

I haven't had the opportunity to look through a modern unit but have tried the old US AN/PVS-4 and Soviet 1PN58 and 1PN51 units.
Image quality for the Soviet scopes ranged from poor to very poor for the older 1PN58 ( severe distortion outside the center of the lens ) to fair or good for the 1PN51 but quite a bit of image grain ( presumably circuit noise), ie; the reason I wondered how the Chieftain Berlin Brigade appeared in NV of the day
The US AN/PVS-4 scope by far had the best image.
I can only imagine how good the image of  US Gen 3+ must be.Surprise
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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 6:05 PM

I used PVS-7s and PVS-14s while I was overseas. The -14 being a monocular set up with beautiful resolution. Having your other eye uncovered fave you good peripheral awareness. Coupled with an red dot sight on your rifle and I was feeling pretty sci fi  out there. Not too far from Aliens' Colonial Marines in what we carried, body armor, and commo gear with Blue For trackers. Heady stuff. And like I said the aviator NVGs were even better. If you look up the Dual Tex camo that I mentioned above, it was designed as a take on the MERDC camo using squares to interfere with the optics of that era as well as natural human eyesight. I think it worked pretty good looking at the photos. Now if I can find out if the 2nd ACR ever had M60A2s at that time, I will have to do that with the new Academy kit. It is just too cool of a scheme!

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 6:27 PM

stikpusher

I used PVS-7s and PVS-14s while I was overseas. The -14 being a monocular set up with beautiful resolution. Having your other eye uncovered fave you good peripheral awareness. Coupled with an red dot sight on your rifle and I was feeling pretty sci fi  out there. Not too far from Aliens' Colonial Marines in what we carried, body armor, and commo gear with Blue For trackers.Stick out tongueStick out tongueCool

stikpusher

...................... If you look up the Dual Tex camo that I mentioned above, it was designed as a take on the MERDC camo using squares to interfere with the optics of that era as well as natural human eyesight. I think it worked pretty good looking at the photos. Now if I can find out if the 2nd ACR ever had M60A2s at that time, I will have to do that with the new Academy kit. It is just too cool of a scheme!

That would be a cool scheme for the M60A2; haven't found a photo yet, but I keep looking.Stick out tongue
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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 6:45 PM

I may gripe about prices, but the wide selection of injection molded vehicle kits in 1/35 has never been better. I just hope the various model companies keep tackling the subjects like these that have not been done before, or not had a new tooled kit in the past 40 years.

 

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Posted by hard stripe on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 7:56 PM

why would academy make a kit of a short lived, failed system from the nam era & make the ones that were a major part of that conflict. M551,M561,M113,M88,M41.   I prefer 1:48 but would probably consider the 1:35.   That's all the whine I have for now,  gotta find some chesse

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Posted by hard stripe on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 7:58 PM

I meant & not make

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 8:22 PM

Academy does make a M551 and M113... In 1/35. AFV Club does the M88 and M41... again in 1/35. Tamiya does the M561. While the M60A2 may not have lived up to expectations, it was operational, for longer and in greater numbers than many "panzer" subjects.

As far as your preferred scale 1/48, and modern armor kit subjects goes, lets just say that's an unexploited market waiting for somebody to open it up. But in 1/35 things just keep improving subject wise... You can wait and hope, or switch and build.

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 8:45 PM

hard stripe

why would academy make a kit of a short lived, failed system from the nam era & make the ones that were a major part of that conflict. M551,M561,M113,M88,M41.   I prefer 1:48 but would probably consider the 1:35.   That's all the whine I have for now,  gotta find some chesse

Your time-line is a little off too.  The M60A2 and the M561 were post Vietnam vehicles, both from the mid-'70s.  The M41 was late Korean War-era.  It was only used by the ARVN forces in Vietnam.  The main US tank was the M48A3.

If you do switch to 1/35, pretty much every vehicle from the Vietnam-era is available from one manufacturer or another.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 9:03 PM

Bish

stikpusher

Bish

While these ain't my cup of tea, its certainly nice to see some more modern stuff. Even I think there are a few to many Tiger's and the like.

C'mon Bish... doesnt this scheme call out to you?

I don't know what those guys have been putting into the Tea, but I want some.

Gag me with a spoon, that's so Nonteen Eightees...

Hey so I need a good M38. Why are there none currently in production?

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