Questions about converting a Monogram Panzer iv to a flakverling

Can you just clarify. From your post, i thought you were talking about converting it to a Wirbelwind.

But GM and Pawel are reffering to the Mobelwagen.

Which one do you want to build?

That's because old vintage mover's trucks had drop sides and were used to move furniture. The original flak wagons had drop sides to act as armor when raised and foot platforms when lowered. Hence the nickname.

And also used to mean "movers' van"

"Mobelwagen" by the way means "Furniture truck".

Hello!

philo - I'd jokingly say I'm sure you are as desperate to make that conversion as the German troops were in the eastern front in 1943! So I'm sure you can do it. I think what you are looking for is the so-called Moebelwagen:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B6belwagen

In this baby you only add five flat armor panels to the Panzer IV hull.

The prototype was armed with a Flakvierling, the regular production vehicles with 37mm Flak, so you'll probably have to take some liberty here...

Hope it helps, have a nice day

Paweł

Thanks but it is the wrong turret.If I cannot find a used one I may have to go with the PE unit on the bay.

Once upon a time, Verlinden made resin turrets that would have cost more than the old Monogram kit was worth. I did a quick eBay search and there is a reasonable Dragon turret that could be used, but not the type turret you are looking for.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cyber-Hobby-1-35th-Scale-Kugelblitz-Flakpanzer-IV-Parts-Tree-A-X-1-from-9109-/302457917319?hash=item466be58f87:g:WD4AAOSwQNRZwDex

I went on Echo Bay and found a PE turret designed to fit my Tamiya flak unit.14 bucks but something you do not want to make mistakes with.Will ponder further...

Yes I remember making the same kit in '74 and it did seem rather large.The new kit seems different and has a copyright Revell 1970 stamped into the bottom of the hull.I wonder if I can find a wrecked kit wih a good turret somewhere.Seems a shame having to purchase a complete kit just for the turret.

Monogram's old German armor kits were manufactured in 1/32 scale and the Tamiya Flak is in 1/35 scale. This may or may not be of concern to you.

Monogram released that kit in several variants with just a simple turret swap being the difference.

They did the flakpanzer wirbelwind https://www.scalemates.com/kits/185413-monogram-6860-flakpanzer

They also did the single gun ostwind https://www.scalemates.com/kits/185424-monogram-7582-flakpanzer-iv

Your kit and these two kits are the same hull with different turrets.