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Questions about converting a Monogram Panzer iv to a flakverling

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, December 3, 2017 1:48 PM

Thanks I like the way it came out  I achieved what I wanted on this build so I am happy with it. 

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, December 3, 2017 1:44 PM

It does look small, but the build looks great nonetheless.

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 5:18 PM

No it is the Dragon turret I found on the bay.Could not get the scratch built turret built,Thanks I like the way it came out.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 12:51 PM

Is that your scratchbuilt turret or the replacement you found on Ebay? It does look a little small to my admittedly not great judgement of scale in photos. 

The camo does look really good! 

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 9:57 PM

Not quite!I have to add the tools and headlights,

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 3:23 PM

Is it done yet? A better photo could help us appreciate your work! The camo is still lookin' good! Have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 2:19 PM

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 2:16 PM

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 2:15 PM

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, November 27, 2017 9:30 AM

You have you love the Bay guys,! I found a complete unbuilt turret assembly for a sawbuck!plus it got here today in three days to Ohio from Georgia despite the holiday weekend! Very cool indeed!

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, November 24, 2017 1:29 AM

It is true that I added the chain because it looks cool but since it is secured by the tow hooks I dont see that it is a problem.

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Posted by T26E4 on Thursday, November 23, 2017 9:42 AM
I tend to avoid adding chains to WW2 vehicles unless there's photographic evidence (like French tanks and early war Russian AFVs). Chains had very limited utility and modellers add them because they look cool. Tow cables were used extensively. Loose chains would pose hazards of entangling or falling off and wrapping around the suspension. Just a thought

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, November 23, 2017 8:10 AM

Yeah, the camo looks good! Looking forward to seeing how she looks finished. 

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 4:49 PM

Yep!Thanks!

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 4:47 PM

Yeah, I told you to do that Mobelwagen, that would have been easier!

Did you try to make a paper model of the turret shell first, and then use the paper as template for styrene parts?

Nice camo, good luck with your build!

Paweł

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 9:41 AM

Added a chain up front.  

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 9:39 AM

Turret construction not going well but i got the tracks on! 

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, November 16, 2017 2:32 PM

starting to build it up.  

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:02 AM

Mocking it up!  

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, November 9, 2017 4:08 PM

I decided to attempt to scratch build the turret.The basic hull and bogies are assembled and the roadwheels painted over the desert yellow (green and brown cammo to be airbrushed later).I took a side view drawing in Chamberlins Encyclopedia of German Tanks Of WW2 and transferred  via old schooL carbon paper.I then doubled it in size which I did with dividers.No diubt it is too large but I can reduce the construction drawing via the copy machine at the library which can reduce it to the correct size.I have to construct a fixture to hold the plates at the correct angles,not an easy task.Not sure I can but I sure will try.

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, November 1, 2017 12:20 PM

Yes might be the best option.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 2:52 PM

philo426

Yes many options to consider.I wonder how difficult it would be to scratch build it,Yes I think it is the Lions Roar turret.

 

Your first problem is that for the Lion Roar turret, you need the base of the Tamiya turret. Even if you have this, the Tamiya 35th turret base will be to small for the 32nd Monogram hull.

I will echo whats been said. Just buy the Tamiya Wirbelwind and build the mono kit as it is.

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 2:00 PM

T26E4

Philo: I think you're making this much too complicated -- build your Monogram/Revell Pz IV as is.  Then get a Tamiya Wirbelwind off of eBay or Amazon and built it, as is.   Right now, there's one on Amazon that's under $25 with shipping

I agree, and I'll add, I'd just buy the Monogram Wirbelwind kit, too.  I don't think it's currently in production, but you can find it on eBay.

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:28 AM

Yes many options to consider.I wonder how difficult it would be to scratch build it,Yes I think it is the Lions Roar turret.

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Posted by T26E4 on Monday, October 23, 2017 7:53 AM

You may find that a disappointing option.  The PE turret is meant to replace the 1/35 plastic turret of the Tamiya or DML kit.  It (and the flak) will look undersized on your 1/32 Panzer IV -- approximately 10%.  If you're good with that, then by all means, proceed.  Like I said earlier, I'd spend the $25 and get a dedicated Flakpanzer IV with all the correct fittings.  But those are according to what makes me happy in this hobby.  Your preferences are 100% yours and please only take my comments as advice -- feel free to ignore.  Regardless, good luck w/your build!!!

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, October 23, 2017 1:59 AM

Is that the Lion Roar turret?

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Posted by philo426 on Sunday, October 22, 2017 5:16 PM

Yes I do tend to overthink but the pe turret is about 14 shipped and I may get that instead.

 

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Posted by T26E4 on Sunday, October 22, 2017 5:47 AM

Philo: I think you're making this much too complicated -- build your Monogram/Revell Pz IV as is.  Then get a Tamiya Wirbelwind off of eBay or Amazon and built it, as is.   Right now, there's one on Amazon that's under $25 with shipping

 

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Posted by philo426 on Saturday, October 21, 2017 12:58 PM

Yes that is the one!flat panels are boring! 

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