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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 8, 2007 11:55 AM
 al41andall wrote:

HELLO NORWAY! WELCOME!

Here are some shots of an ITALERI Stug. IV before camo painting and weathering. It's an early zimmeritt attempt and I used a series of production shots for reference. I used SQUADRON white putty spread with an artist paint spatula with the handle removed so that I had a wide end and a narrow end for tight spots. I textured it with a small flat blade screw driver.

I'll eventually finish this model.

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Wow...there are some nice StuG IV's in this thread...Doog, yours is awesome as well! Cool...
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Posted by Stampede on Saturday, December 8, 2007 11:32 AM

disastermaster, waddaya mean?

Should I make a new cable, but twisting it to the left when making it instead of to the right, as I did on this one?

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Posted by Stampede on Saturday, December 8, 2007 11:30 AM
 wbill76 wrote:

Found a good shot, and a description, in Squadron's Stug III G Walk-Around of the shot deflector. The weld seams are clearly visible and the caption indicates that it's a stamped steel piece, not cast as I'd originally thought. The design is identical between the StuG III and IV.

 

Thanx wbill76!

That's a really good shot, think I gotta get me this book. Seems that the only part I had wrong was the vertical seam I applied, and I also have to apply a seam around the bottom flange in front of the cupola.

Thanx again!

Erik

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, December 8, 2007 10:51 AM

Found a good shot, and a description, in Squadron's Stug III G Walk-Around of the shot deflector. The weld seams are clearly visible and the caption indicates that it's a stamped steel piece, not cast as I'd originally thought. The design is identical between the StuG III and IV.

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 7, 2007 11:49 PM
 the doog wrote:
 Stampede wrote:

 detailfreak wrote:
the projection from the front of the cupola ,being concrete,would not have a weld seam.but rather seperation marks where the lack of or poor bond to the steel is apparent.with yourself and 9 toe tanker applying zim there should be no need for any of us to apply zim in the field.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup].have relatives in dorotea sweden,i believe they have a resort there.welcome.

detailfreak, you need to enlighten me here. Confused [%-)]

I've been checking out some references in Panzer Tracts #8 dealing with the various Stugs and it seems to me like there should be a weld seam around the base of the cupola. If you check out the two enclosed pics and compare the weld seam drawings in the saukopf area to the ones around the cupola base, don't you agree that this does look like weld seams?

Feel free to chime in here... Wink [;)]

Thanx...

I would tend to agree withyou, but I wouldn't make my decision based on a drawing; try to fing some photographic evidence instead to support it.
I agree that this was a steel piece...there was some concrete poured onto StuG III's and IV's but this piece was steel...the kit does come w/ a concrete piece that installs in front of the driver's compartment, and it has obvious concrete texture:
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Posted by disastermaster on Friday, December 7, 2007 6:56 PM
 Stampede wrote:

Make a Toast [#toast] Help has arrived.......

German tow cables sported a left hand twist.Boohoo [BH]

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, December 7, 2007 2:04 PM
The shot deflector for the cupola doesn't have the sharp angles/lines that those drawings suggest but is more rounded as your kit part is. The fact that it's concrete is new to me, I though it was a cast metal piece...now my curiosity is up and will have to dig on this one a bit.
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Posted by ps1scw on Friday, December 7, 2007 11:41 AM
Cool Stuff!
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Posted by the doog on Friday, December 7, 2007 9:50 AM
 Stampede wrote:

 detailfreak wrote:
the projection from the front of the cupola ,being concrete,would not have a weld seam.but rather seperation marks where the lack of or poor bond to the steel is apparent.with yourself and 9 toe tanker applying zim there should be no need for any of us to apply zim in the field.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup].have relatives in dorotea sweden,i believe they have a resort there.welcome.

detailfreak, you need to enlighten me here. Confused [%-)]

I've been checking out some references in Panzer Tracts #8 dealing with the various Stugs and it seems to me like there should be a weld seam around the base of the cupola. If you check out the two enclosed pics and compare the weld seam drawings in the saukopf area to the ones around the cupola base, don't you agree that this does look like weld seams?

Feel free to chime in here... Wink [;)]

Thanx...

I would tend to agree withyou, but I wouldn't make my decision based on a drawing; try to fing some photographic evidence instead to support it.
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Posted by Stampede on Friday, December 7, 2007 3:56 AM

 detailfreak wrote:
the projection from the front of the cupola ,being concrete,would not have a weld seam.but rather seperation marks where the lack of or poor bond to the steel is apparent.with yourself and 9 toe tanker applying zim there should be no need for any of us to apply zim in the field.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup].have relatives in dorotea sweden,i believe they have a resort there.welcome.

detailfreak, you need to enlighten me here. Confused [%-)]

I've been checking out some references in Panzer Tracts #8 dealing with the various Stugs and it seems to me like there should be a weld seam around the base of the cupola. If you check out the two enclosed pics and compare the weld seam drawings in the saukopf area to the ones around the cupola base, don't you agree that this does look like weld seams?

Feel free to chime in here... Wink [;)]

Thanx...

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Posted by detailfreak on Thursday, December 6, 2007 8:35 PM
the projection from the front of the cupola ,being concrete,would not have a weld seam.but rather seperation marks where the lack of or poor bond to the steel is apparent.with yourself and 9 toe tanker applying zim there should be no need for any of us to apply zim in the field.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup].have relatives in dorotea sweden,i believe they have a resort there.welcome.

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Posted by DHM on Thursday, December 6, 2007 3:58 PM
I didn't know they made PE weld seems.  They look great on the the model, though.  My favorite way to make weld seems is to stretch some sprue and melt it onto the model using a solvent.  I then texture the sprue with a toothpick or hobby knife to while the plastic is still soft.  I too will look into these PE weld seems.  As stated above, Keep up the good work!
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Posted by biffa on Thursday, December 6, 2007 12:07 PM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto] on the PE weld beads first time i've seen them too and they look quite impressive i must look into this, the whole thing is coming along very nicely keep up the great work. 
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Posted by the doog on Thursday, December 6, 2007 9:08 AM

Man....PE weld seams! What will they come up with next?!

This is looking superb, really! It is definitely a unique look to a StuG build and I'm excited to see the paint finally go on! 

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Posted by Stampede on Thursday, December 6, 2007 7:12 AM

Applied some weld seams up front below and beside the saukopf opening and around the base of the commanders cupola. The seams were applied according to my references, hopefully they are correct but opinions and corrections are welcome.

The weld seams are PE from Lion Roar, with quite nice detail. They come in different widths so I applied a narrow one around the cupola base and a tad wider one below the saukopf opening.

Here are som pics of the result, I think they will look good once painted.

Below saukopf area...

Commanders cupola base area...

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Posted by Stampede on Thursday, December 6, 2007 1:23 AM

Phew!....got the final zim on the lower hull layed down yesterday, I'm glad that's over.
I hope it'll look ok once painted and weathered.
Comments and critics are welcome as always...

Now if only my PE could arrive so I can get down to some serious building. Anybody got any experience in shopping at Internethobbies and Squadron, cause that's where I've ordered my stuff.

Pics...

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Posted by DHM on Sunday, December 2, 2007 5:31 AM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto] This build is comming along nicely.  I can't wait to see it finished. 
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Posted by the doog on Saturday, December 1, 2007 8:28 AM
I think it looks superb! I'm really looking forward to seeing it camo'd and weathered! The zimm is fantastic!
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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:49 PM
Impressive work so far on a rare subject in these here woods. Welcome to the Dark Side.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:17 PM

The herringbone pattern of Zimmerit looks very cool! You sure jumped back into modeling with both feet and hit the ground running onthis build. Very nice work! Good idea to do sections before they are glued together and are easier to get at.

 

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Posted by al41andall on Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:13 PM

HELLO NORWAY! WELCOME!

Here are some shots of an ITALERI Stug. IV before camo painting and weathering. It's an early zimmeritt attempt and I used a series of production shots for reference. I used SQUADRON white putty spread with an artist paint spatula with the handle removed so that I had a wide end and a narrow end for tight spots. I textured it with a small flat blade screw driver.

I'll eventually finish this model.

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HAVE FUN and HAPPY MODELLING!

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Posted by Stampede on Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:42 PM

Got some more zim layed down today, man that's tedious work.
Dunno how this looks to you guys, so comments and critics are welcome... Wink [;)]

The final strip of zim in front will be applied when the lower hull is glued to the upper hull.

Please do comment...

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:09 AM
 DHM wrote:

Those tow cables look great!  I have never been able to get tow cables right.  From what I see it should work fine. 

I'd like to add that your zimm looks awsome, too.  Not a pattern that you see every day. 

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Yeah--cool cables! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by DHM on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:11 AM

Those tow cables look great!  I have never been able to get tow cables right.  From what I see it should work fine. 

I'd like to add that your zimm looks awsome, too.  Not a pattern that you see every day. 

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Tow cable Q...
Posted by Stampede on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:54 AM

Made a tow cable yesterday to replace the kit supplied "blobby" one.
Will this be useable when weathered properly and the eyes cleaned for flash?

I made it out of three slightly flexible wires that I twisted and inserted them into holes drilled in the original eyes.

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Posted by Stampede on Sunday, November 11, 2007 3:28 PM

Thanx for the cudos on my build and zim so far guys, appreciate it.
I may be in over my head here, but I kinda like stepping into modeling again with both feet in a demanding project. Gonna be kinda cool to see how the final result will look.

I'll keep ya posted, thanx again! Smile [:)]

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Posted by biffa on Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:58 AM
Hi Stampede and welcome, for a claimed newbie you are doing some way advanced work there  and it looks great keep it coming, the zim looks very nicely done you will find much interest here so post many progress pics Smile [:)]
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Posted by IanIsBored2000 on Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:02 AM
Sign - Welcome [#welcome]  I can't say I'v seen that kind of Zim, but it looks awesome.  Can't wait to see some more progress.
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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, November 10, 2007 10:55 AM
Hiya doin' Stampede!  Just started reading this post.  I agree with the doog, don't change the zim!  I've also read/seen that the diagonal zim was used on StuG IVs so I'm sure its appropriate.  I LUV all your work on sprucing up this kit, especially since its your first from a long hiatus....you're a man after my own heart dude!  Keep it up and definitely post your WIP pics and the finished results!  I have a Stug IV in the stash and have been thinking about how to build it, so I'll be keeping tabs on your build! 

Ernest

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Posted by Stampede on Friday, November 9, 2007 1:02 PM

Thanx doog, I really appreciate this kinda feedback from ya! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Nothing fancy when applying the zimm, just some Squardon Green, an X-acto with a #11 blade to spread the putty and a 5 mm wide throvel I made from Evergreen .25 sheet which I sanded tapered at one side.
Now I just hope that my backordered Lion Roar PE from Internet Hobbies can arrive soon so I can get down to some construction as well.

Thanx again and I will keep the WIP photos coming...  

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