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"The Hunters GB" (2/1/08 to 6/1/08)

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  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: NJ
Posted by JMart on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 7:25 AM

Lt. Zogg - Really nice progress, thanks for posting the comparision shot, really helpful.. makes a HUGE difference (the PE). I have the Dragon Premium kit in my stash, will be a few years till I get to it....

dupes - Um, what a dilemma, you ended up with a nice "save" with those tracks! I like the shading on the whitewash, nice paint gradient, gives it depth.

DerOberst - What a pain! I have had good luck with MicroSet/MicroSol on top of a Future coat, but on aircraft, never done armor before... You can "move" a tad the decals while they are still in "Set" by adding more solution.

Hermesminiatures - really REALLY nice :) Nothing to say except admire your work and wish you luck in finishing before the show!

diggeraone - Whats the brand? I know I was missing the clear canopy sprue on a Revell aircraft, just filled a form and sent the receipt and USP# (that bar code thingie) from the box, got the replacement sprue, took several weeks though. Maybe other makers have similar policies, good luck!

 

 

  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Ozarks of Arkansas
Posted by diggeraone on Wednesday, February 6, 2008 5:33 AM
Well I guess your going to have to scratch my Stug IV off.I was putting it together and there are some critical parts missing from it.Two kits in a row.One that breaks and won't take glue and the other missing parts.This is becoming a joke,Digger.
Put all your trust in the Lord,do not put confidence in man.PSALM 118:8 We are in the buisness to do the impossible..G.S.Patton
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  • From: LaValle, Wisconsin
Posted by Hermesminiatures on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 9:58 PM

That's really too bad, DerOberst. I know the feeling quite well, though...I stripped my Firefly three times before I got it the way I wanted it.

I might suggest you use oven cleaner to remove the paint...it will work much better than sanding and won't damage the plastic as sanding might. I tried removing a coat of paint with sandpaper once and wasn't too happy with the results.

 

 

Here's my progress so far, I did most of the construction on Saturday and the tracks and road wheel damage over the past two days. Now I've got to finish the hinged parts for the fenders, hatches and travel lock, and all the tool holders (my goodness the Jagdpanzer has a lot of them!)


I always like to damage the road wheels some, and in addition to some farily heavy chipping I also removed a complete tire, to make the suspension a bit more interesting. Took over an hour to sand the rubber off evenly...but I like the finished result. 


I also did some work on my crew - the uniform color was painted a long time ago and will be redone. I added new heads and painted the gunner's face. The commander will eventually be bandaging his hand, a detail I haven't added yet.

 

I'll be modeling a vehicle of 661st PzJgAbt, Pz. Div. Clausewitz, in Uelsen, Germany, April 1945. The Jagdpanzers of the 661st came from the Paderborn Panzer School and the crews were formed from the elite instructor corps from Putlos Gunnery school. These were probably the best Jagdpanzer crews to see action during WWII and they managed to acheive an 8:1 kill ratio, even when outnumbered by well-armed British armored formations.

My color scheme will be plain dark yellow with the usual cross and the lettering "Schulungs-fahrzeug" (training vehicle) on the side, plus the new L/70 barrel (which replaced the wooden dummy L/48). It will be either primer gray (for a new one) or camouflaged and rather worn (for a salvaged one). I haven't decided which would look cooler...any opinions?

Paint by the end of next week if it kills me! I have a show on March 1... 

 

Jonathan

For every modeling technique that works, I have three that don't.

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 8:45 PM
Oh man, I feel for ya bro!!Shock [:O] I've never had that happen to me before. I use Future to clear coat with and Walthers Solvaset. Im sure you can salvage the build bro, I have faith in ya!!

Eric

 

  • Member since
    January 2008
  • From: Chicago
Posted by DerOberst on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 8:39 PM

AAAARGH!

The decal solvent ate everything!

I added the wheels.  I painted them off the vehicle and used the little plastic thingy with all the different sized circles as the mask.  Wheels came out perfectly and in less than half the time of painting the rubber by hand.  (Thanks to whoever suggested that method here on this forum!)

Then I did the tracks.  Melted the ends but was not happy with the results, so I sewed them together for added strength. They went on with no trouble.

Then decal time.  And here is where my rookie status begins to be apparent.

On my 2 recent models I put a heavy coat of gloss on to protect the paint and give the decals a nice smooth surface.  But then it took 6 coats of matte to get the shine back down.

So I thought  I would put a light coat of gloss on and use some decal solvent to ensure a good tight fit.

Well, things went well until the very end when I tried to touch up a number decal and destroyed it.  So i scraped the remains off and put another number in its place.  But then I tried to make the other side match by changing its number when trouble began.

The decal was on tight, and it turned to sludge, with the solvent eating right through the decal, the clear coat, and the paint.

Now I have big brown smudge mark surrounding a 1/2 inch square patch of bare plastic on the upper hull side. 

Aargh!   So I did what any self respecting man would do. I went straight to bed.

So now I am faced with a repair job.  I am planning to sand down the entire panel and re-paint.

The chemicals involved in this debacle are as follows:

Tamiya Acrylic Paint; Testors GlossCote Lacquer; Polly S Decal Softening solution

I would post a picture, but my camera battery is dead.

So much for all that progress!!! 

 

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Austin, Texas
Posted by Lt. Zogg on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 7:21 PM

Jester - thanks bud, I definitely agree, I haven't done too much PE (pretty much an OOB builder), but I can definitely see more in my future!

Dupes - You're making fantastic progress!  That thing looks mean.

 

Jeff

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 7:06 PM

Jeff- That PE definitely made it worth the effort, that looks awesome!

Dupes- Cool looking whitewash there!! Those tracks really are extra long arent they!!

I have a feeling that this GB is going to turn out some very sweet builds!!

Eric

 

  • Member since
    November 2006
  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 6:49 PM

Alrighty, little bit of progress - ended up using the pin method for sagging the tracks, they're a bit too saggy, but that's because they're a bit too long. Angry [:(!] Would have tried removing a couple of links, but I wouldn't have ever gotten them back together...whatever material they're made of is completely impervious to all glues/solvents/etc. Good job Zvezda! Should patent this stuff. Propeller [8-]

Top coat of paint on the hull, as well as the dirt-coat on the tracks. If it seems dry enough, going to hand paint some markings and start in on the washes later tonight. Wink [;)]

 

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Austin, Texas
Posted by Lt. Zogg on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 5:46 PM

Made a little progress this weekend on the Dragon Su-100.  Its a really nice kit.  Got some assembly done, and did some carving of kit pieces to replace with the photo-etch provided in the kit- makes a huge difference.  The wheels will require some tedious cleanup, since all I've seen from wartime pictures are smooth wheels, while Dragon has molded them with raised tread detail seen on these vehicles in the postwar era.

The kit:

Areas to clean up for replacing with photo-etch:

Same areas with photo-etch parts installed, and comparison with optional styrene part:

Hopefully I'll get some more done this week, as next weekend I'm out of town.

 Jeff

 

  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 9:17 AM
 Jester75 wrote:

snip On a sad note though, I lost the first PE placement bracket. I thought I had a good hold on it with my tweezers, and then BLAMO, catapulted into oblivion!!!!!!!!!snip

 

Ah, the dreaded tweezerpult.

  • Member since
    November 2006
  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Tuesday, February 5, 2008 9:15 AM

Jester - looks solid so far! Thumbs Up [tup]

DerOberst - nice camo scheme. Always makes me happy to see old Tamiya kits getting turned into something nice. Wink [;)]

  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Los Angeles
Posted by dostacos on Monday, February 4, 2008 11:23 PM
 Jester75 wrote:

snip On a sad note though, I lost the first PE placement bracket. I thought I had a good hold on it with my tweezers, and then BLAMO, catapulted into oblivion!!!!!!!!!snip

 

that is not a lost part that is BATTLE DAMAGE!Whistling [:-^]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Dan support your 2nd amendment rights to keep and arm bears!
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    March 2003
  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Monday, February 4, 2008 10:48 PM
Hi guys, I'm back. Lots of great stuff already. It might be a day or two before I'm fully back at the bench. Not much finished as of yet.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Monday, February 4, 2008 9:19 PM

Awesome looking paint job there DerOberst!! You are alot further ahead in yours than I am. This Eduard PE set has really slowed me down but I'm telling ya, it is great!!! I spent most of this evening working on the clamps and brackets on the rear deck for the tools. Yesterday evening was spent shaving the kit fenders off on the front and replacing them with PE as well as the mounting brackets for the shurzen. I am really having fun with this one. On a sad note though, I lost the first PE placement bracket. I thought I had a good hold on it with my tweezers, and then BLAMO, catapulted into oblivion!!!!!!!!!

As I am just going off of the directions on the clamps and what not and have no refs on this whatsoever, feel free to point out anything I am doing wrong on them!!

Eric

 

  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Ozarks of Arkansas
Posted by diggeraone on Monday, February 4, 2008 7:38 PM
Well ya'll I got started yesterday on my Stug VI also my wife went to hobby lobby while I was a sleep.She bought me another T-34 that makes 3 of them that I will have,also she bought me a M-10 in 48 scale.This ought to be interesting build one day.Digger
Put all your trust in the Lord,do not put confidence in man.PSALM 118:8 We are in the buisness to do the impossible..G.S.Patton
  • Member since
    April 2005
  • From: Gothenburg
Posted by JohanT on Monday, February 4, 2008 12:50 PM

Eric,
You are right, there is a lot off brass in there and I am not sure that it will pay off?
FI, thouse grab/tigh down handles are all presented in PE that needs to be folded back to represent a welding bracket?
Hmmm...
Working on the casemate now and not really worried about the exterior.
Should that firewall at the back of the fighthing compartment be solid?
Please, if anyone has pics from an SU-100 interior I'd appreciate any info :)
Final Q, did the russians do their radios with a zink housing and black dials?

Very Best Regards
Johan

  • Member since
    November 2006
  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Monday, February 4, 2008 8:31 AM
 Jester75 wrote:

Awesome dupes, I love that barrel! Is it the kit barrel?

Thanks Jester! It actually is the kit barrel...albeit with a LOT of sanding. Wink [;)]

  • Member since
    January 2008
  • From: Chicago
Posted by DerOberst on Monday, February 4, 2008 8:17 AM

I am a HUGE Patriots fan.   I was completely depressed after the game last night.

 Rather than drink a bottle of wine to self medicate...I retired to my model desk.

After 4 hours of coping through focusing on something other than the game, I ended up here on my Jagdpanzer...

Better than Prozac, more expensive than beer, less dangerous than razorblades...

 

 

  • Member since
    April 2005
Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, February 4, 2008 6:41 AM

Hi all,

I've been production-lining wheels today, I'm thinking of doing as many subassemblies as possible before bringing them all together in one big integration session.

Cheers,

TB

http://worldinminiature.blogspot.com/

  • Member since
    April 2005
Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, February 3, 2008 5:22 PM

Hi Brews,

Squadron stock the Eduard barrels, stock # EU34023 for Dragon and # 34050 for Italeri, and the price looks very reasonable. I'll be ordering one for myself shortly.

Eric, WILD vid, guy! I love the manga anime take, and the whole seditionist take on globalisation! I can see me building a black F-5 with custom markings... (Bookmarked it!)

I assembled a wheel last night... Does that qualify me as part of the GB? Smile [:)]

TB

http://worldinminiature.blogspot.com/

  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Sunday, February 3, 2008 3:11 PM
Yes, but it's a little more expensive than the Eduard barrel for the Italeri, which happens to be $1 cheaper than the Eduard barrel for the Dragon, and the only difference I see is the emulation of the barrel fitting. So, if you're handy enough with CA and a file ...
  • Member since
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  • From: Weymouth, Dorset, UK
Posted by chris hall on Sunday, February 3, 2008 2:59 PM

Jordi Rubio do this 1/35 L/70 barrel for the Jagdpanzer IV/70:

http://www.jordirubio.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=640

but don't specify which kit it's for. Maybe it would fit the Tamiya kit. You could email them and ask.

Cheers,

Chris.

Cute and cuddly, boys, cute and cuddly!
  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Sunday, February 3, 2008 1:58 PM
 DerOberst wrote:

-- The L70 barrel that came with the kit was a mess.  I sanded and puttied, and it is still a bit lumpy.  Any suggestions for making it more round?  (I am looking at aluminium ones, but I dont see one for the Tamiya kit, only DML and Italieri.  Any thoughts?)

My thought would be ... what's the difference? Use a barrel, even if it's made for another kit.

Chucking the barrel into a dremel, or even a regular drill bit, is a bit dicey. Do it with caution, if you must, but you'll likely end up getting a barrel.

In fact, I'm surprised that there ISN'T a recommended barrel for the Tamiya kit. I'll take a look and get back to you.

 

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, February 3, 2008 1:58 PM

Nice site Brews, thanks for the link!!

 Awesome dupes, I love that barrel! Is it the kit barrel?

Eric

 

  • Member since
    November 2006
  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Sunday, February 3, 2008 1:54 PM

Was hoping that I might get to start firing a bit of whitewash in the general direction of this monster, but I've got a superbowl party to attend. Wink [;)]

 

  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Sunday, February 3, 2008 1:54 PM

Lots of good inspiration on this page including a song and an art-deco poster for war bonds.

 

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, February 3, 2008 1:50 PM
 DerOberst wrote:

-- The L70 barrel that came with the kit was a mess.  I sanded and puttied, and it is still a bit lumpy.  Any suggestions for making it more round?  (I am looking at aluminium ones, but I dont see one for the Tamiya kit, only DML and Italieri.  Any thoughts?)

Hmm, couldnt you chuck the barrel into a drill and then run the drill at a slow speed and use some fine grit sandpaper to sort of smooth it out. Sorta like homemade "lathe" of sorts??

Eric

 

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    May 2006
  • From: Queensbury,NY
Posted by panzer88 on Sunday, February 3, 2008 1:34 PM
Tigerman is it too late to join? If not, put me down for Dragon's Jagdtiger Late Production Type. Thanks. Everyone's builds are looking great and I couldn't resist a tank destroyer build.

     

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, February 3, 2008 12:36 PM
 Thunderbolt379 wrote:

This thread's gone a bit quiet... There must be a whole lot of plastic engineers with their heads down over their benches!

For myself, I'm nearly ready to begin, the previous model is nearly done, but I managed to drop my AB earlier -- it slid off the bench, hit the floor and bent its trigger assembly. (No glass jar attached at the time, phew!) I'll have to drop it into the service shop tomorrow. Luckily I'd finished all spraying, including cleaning (thankfully!) and had even turned the gas bottle tap off, I just had to bleed the hose pressure and ... bang! I've never done that in 29 years of airbrushing!

Well, I could ceremonially glue two bits of Trumpeter plastic together tonight -- and announce myself as well and truly aboard!

Cheers,

TB379

It has gotten a bit quiet. I figure as excited as everyone was to start all of us are probably glued to the bench!! I know I am with this crankin in the background!! This Tamiya kit is pretty sweet and the Eduard PE is really going to set it off!!!

Eric

 

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    May 2006
  • From: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
Posted by Brews on Sunday, February 3, 2008 10:47 AM

The dimensions of the Pzkw I at achtungpanzer.com indicate that it should scale at 58mm long and 27mm wide, so I remeasured it, taking cognizance that reviews of Nitto / Fujimi 1:76 armour sugges that "the details are there, but the big picture (scale) is not".

I'm very happy to say that it is close to 58mm long, and about 27mm wide, including the suspension beam.

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