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"The Hunters GB" (2/1/08 to 6/1/08)

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  • From: Northern Virginia
Posted by ygmodeler4 on Friday, February 1, 2008 8:21 AM
 Hermesminiatures wrote:

The Krupp/Steyr Waffentrager is based on the RSO chassis, not the Panzer 38(t). It uses some late Hetzer suspension components or sometimes the RSO suspension with different wheels.

The steel-rimmed road wheels are unique Waffentrager components and are not 38(t) parts.

There were different types of Waffentrager, and the only one that used 38(t) wheels (they are actually late Hetzer wheels, there is a difference), is the 128mm version with the sharply sloped gun shield and perforated muzzle brake (the gun from the MAUS tank).

The vehicle represented in the Alan kit mounts an 88 and has only tracks and idlers from the 38(t). You'll have to use the kit wheels and sprockets.

Thanks Hermes, so the Alan kit has the 38(t) idler, but different road wheels and sprockets....but you said the tracks were 38(t) also, so does that mean I could buy some AM tracks for the 38(t) and replace those with the kit tracks?

-Josiah

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, February 1, 2008 6:32 AM
 PANZERJEAGER wrote:

ok TIGERMAN,

count me in with this one!!!!!

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PANZERJEAGER 

That is where my schurzen came from, the A-0. My kit also includes the shorter 75. I think the kits have a lot of similar parts, except for the aluminum barrel in my Johann Huber.

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 Eric 

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Posted by madmike on Friday, February 1, 2008 5:57 AM

It is the eve of the 1st here in West Australia. Got out the kit and glued one part on just to start on "the day"

I still have to get an ancient Hasegawa MiG-17PF finished before the 23rd, so it is going to be a busy time Smile [:)]

Cheers

Mike 

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Posted by PANZERJAGER on Friday, February 1, 2008 5:42 AM

ok TIGERMAN,

count me in with this one!!!!!

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PANZERJEAGER 

 PANZERJAGER

 

 

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:43 PM

It's all good T-bolt!

Since I'm turning in, it should be past midnight in the EST USA. So gentlemen, "ON YOUR MARK, GET SET, GLUE!"

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 Eric 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:28 PM

Hi all,

Been off the boards the last few days with this and that, and my Jap. Type 74 is still undergoing weathering (looking good, if a bit more field-used than I'd intended, what with it being a peacetime tank). I have an M18 in the mail from Hong Kong, and I just scored a late-tool Tamiya StuG III Ausf. G from the same part of the world that I know Cavalier make zim for. No matter what I build, I won't be able to order zim until March, the company is pretty much at a standstill until the boss gets back from China.

So I'm thinking of making a start on the Trumpeter Type 89 TD, now I've got the Chinese cammo colours tied down, and I'll keep the Italeri Jagdpanzer IV L/70 in mind if there are spare hours in a few months time... (That reminds me, I need to order Academy's PzKfw IV track sets and Tamiya's on-vehicle accessories...)

It's Friday February 1st down here in Australia... Don't worry, Tigerman, I'm not going to steal your thunder and say: "Gentlemen, start your (turbocharged 20-litre V-12 tank) engines!"

I'll be out with my fave band tonight and *maybe* helping out a ladyfriend tomorrow, but I'll be sure to glue something before the weekend is over.

Cheers,

TB379

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Posted by fantacmet on Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:15 PM
Ok ok ok, count me in with the M18 Hellcat by Academy, you twisted my leg and held a gun to my head.  I was stupid enough not to pull my own in my own defense(perhaps because I didn't want to?  LOL) so I'm in.  And I wanted to superdetail it.  Oh well.  I wonder if there are friuls for this thing.

    

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Posted by Hermesminiatures on Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:13 PM

The Krupp/Steyr Waffentrager is based on the RSO chassis, not the Panzer 38(t). It uses some late Hetzer suspension components or sometimes the RSO suspension with different wheels.

The steel-rimmed road wheels are unique Waffentrager components and are not 38(t) parts.

There were different types of Waffentrager, and the only one that used 38(t) wheels (they are actually late Hetzer wheels, there is a difference), is the 128mm version with the sharply sloped gun shield and perforated muzzle brake (the gun from the MAUS tank).

The vehicle represented in the Alan kit mounts an 88 and has only tracks and idlers from the 38(t). You'll have to use the kit wheels and sprockets.

Jonathan

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Posted by PANZERJAGER on Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:49 PM

kinda sorta 38(t)...

if ya google "waffetrager" images, there are actualy a lot of pics on line.

i have pics showing 38(t) road wheels and no returne rollers, and smaller all steel road wheels with returne rollers.

if youre thinking about using 38(t) or hetzer tracks, i can check the stuff in my stash and get back to you tomorrow.

PANZERJEAGER 

 PANZERJAGER

 

 

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:30 PM
oh ok,,,,by any chance do you know what chasis/running gear it is? 38t? I looks like the Marder II? (i think, 4 road wheels with 2 return rollers and then the 2 idler things)

-Josiah

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Posted by PANZERJAGER on Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:09 PM

O yeah,

they are indi links sorta like 38(t) links.......

PANZERJEAGER 

 PANZERJAGER

 

 

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:58 PM
 PANZERJEAGER wrote:

the tracks are fair, but simplistic.

g'luck, cant wait to see this one tackled by someone else!Laugh [(-D]

PANZERJEAGER 

Thanks dude,,,,are they indies?

-Josiah

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Posted by PANZERJAGER on Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:45 PM

the tracks are fair, but simplistic.

g'luck, cant wait to see this one tackled by someone else!Laugh [(-D]

PANZERJEAGER 

 PANZERJAGER

 

 

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:43 PM

 fantacmet wrote:
I'll be honest, nothaving been around for a bit, and there being nearly 20 pages, I didn't bother to read the whole thing.  LOL.  If it does qualify though count me in with Academy's Hellcat,  Ah heck Eric you know which one it is already.

Like brews said, it's acceptable for the GB. The M-10, M-36, as well as your M-18 Hellcat are all open-turret TD's. You are in luck.

Well, we did achieve 20 pages before the GB started. Congratulations and good discussion so far.

I did manage to wash down my sprues, so tomorrow after work, I intend to get some parts glued. 

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 Eric 

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:24 PM

Thanks panzerjeager!

That doesn't look as bad as I thought It'd be, I think I'll try this one out, with some research, and maybe some try at some scrathing, I think I'll be able to pull this one off.
Thanks again....BTW how's the tracks?

-Josiah

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Posted by PANZERJAGER on Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:27 PM

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Posted by PANZERJAGER on Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:23 PM
 ygmodeler4 wrote:
 PANZERJEAGER wrote:

ygmodeler,

ive got a alan waffertrager!

yyyaaa might want to think twice about this one.

pretty rough kit, lots of thick parts with lots of sink marks in them.

the gun mount is so terrible that i am either going to have to scratch build one or hope somebody comes out with a resin upgrade for this kit.

right now it is in "shelf test" mode in my stash.

hope this helps.

if you like i can post some pics of the kit.

i have just started looking at this post, and  are thinking about participating in the gb.  but am a little confused about what it is all about. you see i have add and reading through a long thread like this to get the jist of it is tough for me.

can any one cut to the chase and tell me what this gb is all about in a nut shell????

PANZERJEAGER 

 

Thanks for that heads up panzerjeager!  I would be VERY appreciative if you could post pics, especially of that gun mount, thanks.

-Josiah

here ya go!!!

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 PANZERJAGER

 

 

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Posted by fantacmet on Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:50 PM
I'll be honest, nothaving been around for a bit, and there being nearly 20 pages, I didn't bother to read the whole thing.  LOL.  If it does qualify though count me in with Academy's Hellcat,  Ah heck Eric you know which one it is already.

    

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Posted by Brews on Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:41 PM
I thought we agreed ages ago that the Hellcat qualifies. That, and the M-10 / Achilles and M-36. These are the only turreted TDs, right?
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Posted by fantacmet on Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:38 PM
WEll actually I have to ask, does the Hellcat qualify as a hunter?  If so, I still haven't started that Hellcat I bought from you Eric, other then cutting a few parts of the sprues and looking at them.  I haven't done any sanding or assembly yet, just viewing.  Mostly trying to figure out how I'm going to do the paint/build process, and which set of tracks I want to use.

    

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:44 PM
 Brews wrote:
 Brews wrote:
 tigerman wrote:

 archangel571 wrote:
let's make it to page 20 before the GB even starts.  Still don't see anyone thinking of building the Marder I or alan's Marder II D.

I wish Dragon or Tristar would come out with a new version of the Panzerjager I. It wouldn't seem that difficult since they already have Pz. I kits out.

There's an Italeri PzJg I at www.rareplanedetective.com

Alternatively, you could get a Tristar Panzer 1, and scratch the gun shield. I *THINK* that Squadron sell Aber's 47mm. What more could you want? 

Hmm. I just searched Squadron for "aber" and 1:35 scale.

There are about 5 Aber PE sets for the Italeri PzJg I, each around the $20 mark, and there IS a 45mm barrel, at about $5.

So, go for it.

Nah. I'm admittedly not much of a scratcher, and the tracks would need to be replaced, so the costs contiue to go up. I had the old Italeri Pzjager I and it lacked alot of details. It started life as I believe a Zvezda kit. This is why I was hoping Dragon or Tristar would release a newly tooled one. Bound to be accurate and good-to-go.

I too might leave off the schurzen. They are nice, but I can see the microscopic 64 bolts go flying through the air.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Brews on Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:57 PM
 Brews wrote:
 tigerman wrote:

 archangel571 wrote:
let's make it to page 20 before the GB even starts.  Still don't see anyone thinking of building the Marder I or alan's Marder II D.

I wish Dragon or Tristar would come out with a new version of the Panzerjager I. It wouldn't seem that difficult since they already have Pz. I kits out.

There's an Italeri PzJg I at www.rareplanedetective.com

Alternatively, you could get a Tristar Panzer 1, and scratch the gun shield. I *THINK* that Squadron sell Aber's 47mm. What more could you want? 

Hmm. I just searched Squadron for "aber" and 1:35 scale.

There are about 5 Aber PE sets for the Italeri PzJg I, each around the $20 mark, and there IS a 45mm barrel, at about $5.

So, go for it.

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Posted by ps1scw on Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:01 PM
 archangel571 wrote:
 ps1scw wrote:

I'm digging the Dragon Huber L/70

i am instead digging your avatar pic.  darn...

There is something about Japanese girls....

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Posted by ps1scw on Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:57 PM
 tigerman wrote:
 ps1scw wrote:

I'm digging the Dragon Huber L/70

That's mine. Are doing schurzen? 

No, I like it much better w/o

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Posted by Brews on Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:45 PM
 tigerman wrote:

 archangel571 wrote:
let's make it to page 20 before the GB even starts.  Still don't see anyone thinking of building the Marder I or alan's Marder II D.

I wish Dragon or Tristar would come out with a new version of the Panzerjager I. It wouldn't seem that difficult since they already have Pz. I kits out.

There's an Italeri PzJg I at www.rareplanedetective.com

Alternatively, you could get a Tristar Panzer 1, and scratch the gun shield. I *THINK* that Squadron sell Aber's 47mm. What more could you want? 

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:42 PM
 PANZERJEAGER wrote:

ygmodeler,

ive got a alan waffertrager!

yyyaaa might want to think twice about this one.

pretty rough kit, lots of thick parts with lots of sink marks in them.

the gun mount is so terrible that i am either going to have to scratch build one or hope somebody comes out with a resin upgrade for this kit.

right now it is in "shelf test" mode in my stash.

hope this helps.

if you like i can post some pics of the kit.

i have just started looking at this post, and  are thinking about participating in the gb.  but am a little confused about what it is all about. you see i have add and reading through a long thread like this to get the jist of it is tough for me.

can any one cut to the chase and tell me what this gb is all about in a nut shell????

PANZERJEAGER 

 

Thanks for that heads up panzerjeager!  I would be VERY appreciative if you could post pics, especially of that gun mount, thanks.

-Josiah

-Josiah

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:36 PM

 archangel571 wrote:
let's make it to page 20 before the GB even starts.  Still don't see anyone thinking of building the Marder I or alan's Marder II D.

I wish Dragon or Tristar would come out with a new version of the Panzerjager I. It wouldn't seem that difficult since they already have Pz. I kits out.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by jthurston on Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:27 PM
 archangel571 wrote:
 ps1scw wrote:

I'm digging the Dragon Huber L/70

i am instead digging your avatar pic.  darn...

roger that Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:18 PM
 ps1scw wrote:

I'm digging the Dragon Huber L/70

That's mine. Are doing schurzen? 

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by archangel571 on Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:17 PM
 ps1scw wrote:

I'm digging the Dragon Huber L/70

i am instead digging your avatar pic.  darn...

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