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Posted by Dan A on Monday, May 3, 2010 9:19 PM

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, May 3, 2010 9:23 PM

Well I saw a video of 4 royal marines start it, shut down, got out, pulled hood off- disconnect engine- took engine out-put another in- connected it up- hood back on, got back in, started it and drove it 10 meters for a time of get this!!! 42 seconds!!!!!!

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Monday, May 3, 2010 9:24 PM

close enough, it was actually 42 seconds, but ill give it to you

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, May 4, 2010 10:43 AM

We all know the name DeLorean for the gull-winged exotic car. What car was John DeLorean mainly responsible for bringing into production that become the one to beat on the streets way before the stainless steel bodied car of his name? Bonus pat on the back, what was the derogertory name the Delorean caught in the mid-80's?

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, May 4, 2010 10:55 AM

That would be the 1964 Pontiac GTO. Which shows just how early John DeLorean was willing to break rules, as A-body cars were limited to 330ci.

Don't know about any nicknames (or have forgotten), but I can supply you with an acronym:

DeLorean: Don't Ever Lend One Rich Easterner Any Narcotics!

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, May 4, 2010 9:36 PM

Bgrigg

Don't know about any nicknames (or have forgotten), but I can supply you with an acronym:

DeLorean: Don't Ever Lend One Rich Easterner Any Narcotics!

LMAOBoo Hoo Haven't heard that one before!!! I heard the term 'Snowmobile' used a time or two.Whistling

Floor is yours Bgrigg!!!!

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, May 4, 2010 10:52 PM

Headsmack! Snowmobile. Of course! Guess I "blew" the bonus question!

Okay, now for the new question:

What did Sammy Davis Jr., Dan Rowen and *** Martin have to do with the GTO?

Edit

LOL! The nanny software bleeped out the common short name for Richard? /Edit

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Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, May 5, 2010 6:01 AM

Here comes The JUDGE....order in the courtroom here comes The Judge! 

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Posted by Bgrigg on Wednesday, May 5, 2010 8:08 AM

Yeah, that was pretty easy! Big Smile

You have the floor...

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Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, May 5, 2010 6:39 PM

Easy for those of us growing up watching Laugh-In.....

 

I'm out of trivia-give it another shot Bill-It's all your's....

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Posted by squeakie on Thursday, May 6, 2010 9:52 PM

Bgrigg

That would be the 1964 Pontiac GTO. Which shows just how early John DeLorean was willing to break rules, as A-body cars were limited to 330ci.

Don't know about any nicknames (or have forgotten), but I can supply you with an acronym:

DeLorean: Don't Ever Lend One Rich Easterner Any Narcotics!

actually they came with a 389" engine that had either a single four barrel Carter AFB or  three two barrel Rochester 2GC's. They never were the car to beat on the street in 1964 like some folks like to think

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Posted by Bgrigg on Thursday, May 6, 2010 11:13 PM

Yes Gary, the GTO did come with the 389ci, but GM's rules was that the A-body was to be limited to 330ci. Delorean came up with a loophole that allowed the dealers to order the GTO as a special package, bypassing the restriction, and the rest was history.

Anyway, I've come up blank with a trivia question in lieu of Bob, so Gary, if you would like the honor, the floor can be yours.

So long folks!

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Posted by squeakie on Friday, May 7, 2010 11:40 AM

here you go with something that comes to the top of my head:

How many cubic inch displacements did Chrysler's race hemi come in? (hint there's more than one)

gary

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Posted by squeakie on Friday, May 7, 2010 12:02 PM

Bgrigg

Yes Gary, the GTO did come with the 389ci, but GM's rules was that the A-body was to be limited to 330ci. Delorean came up with a loophole that allowed the dealers to order the GTO as a special package, bypassing the restriction, and the rest was history.

Anyway, I've come up blank with a trivia question in lieu of Bob, so Gary, if you would like the honor, the floor can be yours.

There's a big inside joke at GM about the Pontiac GTO that was still being laughed about forty years after the fact! Car & Driver magazine was the first to road test a 1964 GTO, and they declared it a winner with specs that were just out of this world (faster than most all Super Stock drag cars in that era.) What Pontiac did was to supply C&D a "ringer" !! It was basicly a 1962 NASCAR 421" engine with the super duty heads, and 11:1 compression ratio pistons. The cam used was the one out of the 363 HP engine in the car. The car was actually assembled on the production line as a prototype, and even the engine was serial numbered as a 389 engine! The car upon assembly was then taken by truck over to Royal Pontiac for a full tune up from bumper to bumper. It was then trucked back to Pontiac for a hands on delivery to the magazine staff. The motor was said to have about 75 more horse power than the factory 389 in it's best tune up.

     What was really odd about this was that no other magazine tested that particular car, but more or less tested show room samples. The performance differences were vastly different, but still very good at the time. The kids bought the GTO and started complaigning about the car not running like it should have! Four or five years later an engineer from Pontiac let the cat out of the bag to somebody at Hot Rod Magazine. Chevy and Ford have also been caught doing the samething I might add. Chevy did a very limited run of SS 396 Chevells in 1965. The one the magazines tested was a 454 prototype engine! Ford did a Mustang with the 428 engine that was actually a 427 medium riser engine with a mild cam in it, but got caught when somebody crawled under it and saw the cross bolt mains in the engine block!

gary

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Posted by Bgrigg on Friday, May 7, 2010 12:21 PM

squeakie

 

 Bgrigg:

 

Yes Gary, the GTO did come with the 389ci, but GM's rules was that the A-body was to be limited to 330ci. Delorean came up with a loophole that allowed the dealers to order the GTO as a special package, bypassing the restriction, and the rest was history.

Anyway, I've come up blank with a trivia question in lieu of Bob, so Gary, if you would like the honor, the floor can be yours.

 

 

There's a big inside joke at GM about the Pontiac GTO that was still being laughed about forty years after the fact! Car & Driver magazine was the first to road test a 1964 GTO, and they declared it a winner with specs that were just out of this world (faster than most all Super Stock drag cars in that era.) What Pontiac did was to supply C&D a "ringer" !! It was basicly a 1962 NASCAR 421" engine with the super duty heads, and 11:1 compression ratio pistons. The cam used was the one out of the 363 HP engine in the car. The car was actually assembled on the production line as a prototype, and even the engine was serial numbered as a 389 engine! The car upon assembly was then taken by truck over to Royal Pontiac for a full tune up from bumper to bumper. It was then trucked back to Pontiac for a hands on delivery to the magazine staff. The motor was said to have about 75 more horse power than the factory 389 in it's best tune up.

     What was really odd about this was that no other magazine tested that particular car, but more or less tested show room samples. The performance differences were vastly different, but still very good at the time. The kids bought the GTO and started complaigning about the car not running like it should have! Four or five years later an engineer from Pontiac let the cat out of the bag to somebody at Hot Rod Magazine. Chevy and Ford have also been caught doing the samething I might add. Chevy did a very limited run of SS 396 Chevells in 1965. The one the magazines tested was a 454 prototype engine! Ford did a Mustang with the 428 engine that was actually a 427 medium riser engine with a mild cam in it, but got caught when somebody crawled under it and saw the cross bolt mains in the engine block!

gary

I've heard that story before. My belief is that all the cars delivered to the magazines for testing were tweaked in a similar manner.

Speaking of Nascar motored street cars, I met an old-timer once driving a 1965 Catalina that idled very lumpy. Turns out he was an ex-mechanic for a famous Nascar race team in the 1960s and had installed an engine from a retired race car into his own vehicle. That big boat of a car could outrun all the kid's pony cars, including my Barracuda. There were a few cars in town that could best me, but none left me choking on the dust like that Catalina did!

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Posted by Dan A on Friday, May 7, 2010 12:38 PM

squeakie

How many cubic inch displacements did Chrysler's race hemi come in? (hint there's more than one)

413 and 426 are the numbers that come to my mind, though they're probably not correct.

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Posted by Bgrigg on Friday, May 7, 2010 12:41 PM

squeakie

here you go with something that comes to the top of my head:

How many cubic inch displacements did Chrysler's race hemi come in? (hint there's more than one)

gary

Are you meaning 'factory' Race Hemis? As opposed to Street Hemis?

Starting with the FirePower V8's Chrysler, Dodge and Plymouth offered 17 different sizes from the 241ci Dodge Red Ram V8 up to a "crate" engine 528ci:

  • 241 Cubic Inch
  • 259 Cubic Inch
  • 270 Cubic Inch
  • 276 Cubic Inch
  • 291 Cubic Inch
  • 315 Cubic Inch
  • 325 Cubic Inch
  • 330 Cubic Inch
  • 331 Cubic Inch
  • 341 Cubic Inch
  • 345 Cubic Inch (5.7L)
  • 354 Cubic Inch
  • 370 Cubic Inch (6.1L)
  • 392 Cubic Inch (6.4L)
  • 426 Cubic Inch
  • 472 Cubic Inch
  • 528 Cubic Inch

But only one model was released from the factory as a Race Hemi and that was the 426ci. The street version had lower compression, milder valve timing and cast iron heads as just a few of the modifications.

Crate engines are available in 426ci, 472ci and 528ci. The 392ci of the late 50 was a popular drag racer engine, but it wasn't sold by Chrysler as a "race" hemi. The 472ci and 528ci were never sold already installed.

 

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Posted by Bgrigg on Friday, May 7, 2010 12:43 PM

Dan A

 

 squeakie:

 

How many cubic inch displacements did Chrysler's race hemi come in? (hint there's more than one)

 

 

413 and 426 are the numbers that come to my mind, though they're probably not correct.

Dan, you are mistaking the Max Wedge engines with the Hemi. Chrysler did offer the 426ci with both Wedge and Hemi heads.

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Posted by squeakie on Friday, May 7, 2010 9:42 PM

Bgrigg

 squeakie:

 

 Bgrigg:

 

Yes Gary, the GTO did come with the 389ci, but GM's rules was that the A-body was to be limited to 330ci. Delorean came up with a loophole that allowed the dealers to order the GTO as a special package, bypassing the restriction, and the rest was history.

Anyway, I've come up blank with a trivia question in lieu of Bob, so Gary, if you would like the honor, the floor can be yours.

 

 

There's a big inside joke at GM about the Pontiac GTO that was still being laughed about forty years after the fact! Car & Driver magazine was the first to road test a 1964 GTO, and they declared it a winner with specs that were just out of this world (faster than most all Super Stock drag cars in that era.) What Pontiac did was to supply C&D a "ringer" !! It was basicly a 1962 NASCAR 421" engine with the super duty heads, and 11:1 compression ratio pistons. The cam used was the one out of the 363 HP engine in the car. The car was actually assembled on the production line as a prototype, and even the engine was serial numbered as a 389 engine! The car upon assembly was then taken by truck over to Royal Pontiac for a full tune up from bumper to bumper. It was then trucked back to Pontiac for a hands on delivery to the magazine staff. The motor was said to have about 75 more horse power than the factory 389 in it's best tune up.

     What was really odd about this was that no other magazine tested that particular car, but more or less tested show room samples. The performance differences were vastly different, but still very good at the time. The kids bought the GTO and started complaigning about the car not running like it should have! Four or five years later an engineer from Pontiac let the cat out of the bag to somebody at Hot Rod Magazine. Chevy and Ford have also been caught doing the samething I might add. Chevy did a very limited run of SS 396 Chevells in 1965. The one the magazines tested was a 454 prototype engine! Ford did a Mustang with the 428 engine that was actually a 427 medium riser engine with a mild cam in it, but got caught when somebody crawled under it and saw the cross bolt mains in the engine block!

gary

 

I've heard that story before. My belief is that all the cars delivered to the magazines for testing were tweaked in a similar manner.

Speaking of Nascar motored street cars, I met an old-timer once driving a 1965 Catalina that idled very lumpy. Turns out he was an ex-mechanic for a famous Nascar race team in the 1960s and had installed an engine from a retired race car into his own vehicle. That big boat of a car could outrun all the kid's pony cars, including my Barracuda. There were a few cars in town that could best me, but none left me choking on the dust like that Catalina did!

back in the day I had a buddy that had a 64 two door sedan GTO. The crank broke at the thrust bearing like so many did. He somehow came accross a 421" motor with the 363 horse three duce setup on it. Later he got his hands on a set of aluminum heads from a NASCAR team that went under up in Highland Indiana along with a forged steel crank and rods. Later he came into a factory super stock two four barrel intake. Car was pretty fast for 1965 or 66, and would put it as fast as a good running street hemi with 4.10 gears. We were rolling up U.S. 31 one night about two in the moring when the hood flew off! Never did find it as well! (he had to cut a hole in the hood to clear the carbs, and I think air got under it). The next hood had four hood pins to hold it down!

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Posted by squeakie on Friday, May 7, 2010 9:51 PM

Bgrigg

 squeakie:

here you go with something that comes to the top of my head:

How many cubic inch displacements did Chrysler's race hemi come in? (hint there's more than one)

gary

 

Are you meaning 'factory' Race Hemis? As opposed to Street Hemis?

Starting with the FirePower V8's Chrysler, Dodge and Plymouth offered 17 different sizes from the 241ci Dodge Red Ram V8 up to a "crate" engine 528ci:

  • 241 Cubic Inch
  • 259 Cubic Inch
  • 270 Cubic Inch
  • 276 Cubic Inch
  • 291 Cubic Inch
  • 315 Cubic Inch
  • 325 Cubic Inch
  • 330 Cubic Inch
  • 331 Cubic Inch
  • 341 Cubic Inch
  • 345 Cubic Inch (5.7L)
  • 354 Cubic Inch
  • 370 Cubic Inch (6.1L)
  • 392 Cubic Inch (6.4L)
  • 426 Cubic Inch
  • 472 Cubic Inch
  • 528 Cubic Inch

But only one model was released from the factory as a Race Hemi and that was the 426ci. The street version had lower compression, milder valve timing and cast iron heads as just a few of the modifications.

Crate engines are available in 426ci, 472ci and 528ci. The 392ci of the late 50 was a popular drag racer engine, but it wasn't sold by Chrysler as a "race" hemi. The 472ci and 528ci were never sold already installed.

 

hint: they were all NASCAR engines. Some were short lived, but all were off the 426 block. The motors larger than 426" were factory crate engines, and not leagle race cars (you left out the 497", and the 513" engines that were offered at one time)

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Posted by squeakie on Saturday, May 8, 2010 12:04 PM

I guess nobody knows the answer, so be prepaired for something really oddball. How about 404 cu. in. and 366 cu. in.? There was also a very very small handfull built just under 400 cu. in. (maybe five or six).

    The 366" engine used a 3.375" crank from a 383 that had the larger main bearing diameters. The 404 used a 4.281 bore instead of te standard bore. There were actually a couple combinations used on the 404 engine, and all were intended for circle track use. Nascar dictated the smaller 404 engine due to pressure from Ford as the hemi had about 75 to a hundred more horsepower. But when they came out with the 404 engine it was found that at the most they lost twenty horse power and some teams saw no loss in power at all. The 366 engine was the real odd ball, and didn't pan out all that well

gary

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Posted by squeakie on Sunday, May 9, 2010 1:36 PM

OK, lets try a new one on the masses. What is the fastest four cylinder car in the world? (note: it's note a production automobile) And just how fast has it gone?

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Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, May 9, 2010 2:55 PM

The 1987 Olds Aerotech I, with a modified 2 liter turbocharged Quad 4 that went 267.88 mph over a straight line mile, and 257.123 mph on a closed circuit track. I knew the car already, but had to look up the speeds.

Certainly not your father's Oldsmobile!

Just goes to show that Olds wasn't the fuddy duddy car most people thought they were.

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Posted by squeakie on Sunday, May 9, 2010 9:31 PM

Bgrigg

The 1987 Olds Aerotech I, with a modified 2 liter turbocharged Quad 4 that went 267.88 mph over a straight line mile, and 257.123 mph on a closed circuit track. I knew the car already, but had to look up the speeds.

Certainly not your father's Oldsmobile!

Just goes to show that Olds wasn't the fuddy duddy car most people thought they were.

that record was broken years ago by several others.

gary

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, May 10, 2010 3:32 AM

squeakie

 Bgrigg:

The 1987 Olds Aerotech I, with a modified 2 liter turbocharged Quad 4 that went 267.88 mph over a straight line mile, and 257.123 mph on a closed circuit track. I knew the car already, but had to look up the speeds.

Certainly not your father's Oldsmobile!

Just goes to show that Olds wasn't the fuddy duddy car most people thought they were.

 

that record was broken years ago by several others.

gary

ohhhh? well than what are the figures??????????Smile DotsI believe this would qualify!!!

http://www.yacoucci.com/records.htm

Yes I agree, Olds was a company to be reckoned with back in the day!!!! A company that could satisfy father and son alike, and if they both race well, it's in the bag!!!!Whistling

 

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Posted by squeakie on Monday, May 10, 2010 11:07 AM

simpilot34

 squeakie:

 Bgrigg:

The 1987 Olds Aerotech I, with a modified 2 liter turbocharged Quad 4 that went 267.88 mph over a straight line mile, and 257.123 mph on a closed circuit track. I knew the car already, but had to look up the speeds.

Certainly not your father's Oldsmobile!

Just goes to show that Olds wasn't the fuddy duddy car most people thought they were.

 

that record was broken years ago by several others.

gary

 

ohhhh? well than what are the figures??????????Smile DotsI believe this would qualify!!!

http://www.yacoucci.com/records.htm

Yes I agree, Olds was a company to be reckoned with back in the day!!!! A company that could satisfy father and son alike, and if they both race well, it's in the bag!!!!Whistling

 

The car has run with two different four cylinder engines. One is 120 cu. in. and the other is 176 cu. in. It currently holds the FIA certified record with the 120" engine at 351 mph ( note: It maybe 353 mph). They felt there was another 7 to 10mph left in the car, but the salt surface was going away fast. The other engine also holds the records for it's displacement at close to the same speed (the record was set on a shake down run at Bonneville just before the rains came). The bigger engine has been clocked at 401mph with the engine on fire! Sad thing is that they have lost interest in the bigger four cylinder engine, and are now concentrating on a 299" V8 that has been clocked at 435 mph. Who owns the car? Ron Poteet as well as Ron Mains. The car is named Speed Demon, and many expect it to be certified this year as the fasted car on earth

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:32 AM

Did I get it Gary?

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Posted by squeakie on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:05 PM

that fastest four banger in the world is the Speed Demon. There was another car that went 367 a few years back, and a motorcycle that went 357. But the Speed Demon is regarded as the top dog by a wide margin. I might add here that the land speed record they set with the 120" engine broke the long standing record held by the Honda factory using their F1 engine. Many considered the record to be unbeatable. The fastest one pass ever by a wheel driven car was actually done by two different cars with similar speeds. One was powered by a gas turbine and the other by two late model hemis. Both cars went 457, but only one was ever able to make the return run to certify the record (Don Vesco in the turbine). Jet powered cars are not recognized by anybody but themselves, and really are not welcomed by any of the several land speed racing organizations.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:24 AM

Who's turn is it?

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Posted by Bgrigg on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:26 AM

After this much time, pretty much anybody's!

So long folks!

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