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Posted by kenjitak on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:53 AM

No, that was done as an agreement with De Tomaso.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:34 AM

A10wrthg

Shelby AC Cobra used ford 289 engines with an AC Bristol body.

Same with 427?

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Posted by kenjitak on Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:57 AM

Shelby chose to be allied with Ford. The case I have in mind the seller was not happy with selling a car that had a rival company's engine in it.

 

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Posted by kustommodeler1 on Monday, March 22, 2010 2:12 PM

A fiend of mine's '64 Ford Pickup had a Chrysler 318 and 904 transmission in it.

 

 

Oh. wait,, he put that in there himself.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:38 AM

Can we please have another clue please? This seems to have stagnated.

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Posted by Bgrigg on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:43 AM

No more clues! Just put us out of our misery!

I cannot think of a production car that uses another manufacturers engine that wasn't negotiated in advance.

So long folks!

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Posted by kenjitak on Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:59 AM

In 1964 the Rootes group wanted to rejuvenate their Sunbeam Alpine. With a little help from Carroll Shelby and Ken Miles they came out with the Sunbeam Tiger, an Alpine with a 260 Ford V-8. This proved to be quite popular and successful in sales and auto racing. A hot little car with a well-developed line of hop-up parts since almost anything that fit on a 289 also fit on the 260. In 1964 Chrysler was in the processing of building up its European operation and began buying up the Rootes Group. By 1967 they completed the takeover and found that one of their key image cars, the Sunbeam Tiger was powered by Ford and had just come out with a 289 powered version. Chrysler did not have a suitable substitute engine; their blocks were too big, so for the 1967 model they continued selling the Tiger, a Chrysler car with a Ford engine!

OK someone else please step!

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Posted by Bgrigg on Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:12 AM

Ya know, I thought of the Tiger, but rejected it because it was planned for the Ford 260  V-8. Totally forgot Chrysler bought them out! Great trivia question!

I do wonder why they didn't put the 273 V-8 Hi-Po from the Barracuda in?

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Posted by kustommodeler1 on Saturday, March 27, 2010 2:53 PM

OK, I'll ask one......

 

Since it's beginning production in 1955, the small block Chevy engine went from 265 C.I. all the way up to 400C.I.

Question: from 1955, all the way to 2002, what NEVER changed  on any of the engines except the 400?

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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, March 28, 2010 5:14 AM

The overall dimenions of the block itself?

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Sunday, March 28, 2010 4:27 PM

Im just gonna chuck a dumb answer in here, but number of valves?

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Posted by kustommodeler1 on Sunday, March 28, 2010 5:02 PM

simpilot34- that's a good general guess, but there were minor changes for mounting, accesories, and such... so no, not what I'm thinking

agentg- Intake and exhaust valve diameters did change over the years.

scorpiomikey- while technically correct, still not the one I'm looking for....

 

I will repeat the hint- all BUT the 400 had this the same throughout it's production life.Smile Burger

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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:22 PM

Either the bore or stroke?

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Posted by A10wrthg on Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:53 PM

the same horsepower or carberature

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, March 29, 2010 6:03 AM

The same waterjacket thickness,  on the 400 it was thinner and they were prone to overheat easily?

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Posted by fantacmet on Monday, March 29, 2010 6:55 PM

Alot of people are saying valves but the valve sizes changed alot.  Even under the fuelie heads valve sizes differed.

For one thing the number of cylinders would be an accurate answer for thequestion but probably not what you are looking for.

I believe the answer you were looking for is the center to center rod length of 5.7 inches.  The only exception being the 400 CID block which used a special short rod.  

    

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Posted by kustommodeler1 on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:28 AM

fantacmet

I believe the answer you were looking for is the center to center rod length of 5.7 inches.  The only exception being the 400 CID block which used a special short rod.  

 

You NAILED it!! The factory rod center to center length never changed except on the 400. The 400 had to have a shorter rod to keep the wrist pin from getting up into the oil ring land. The next question is yours!!!

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Posted by fantacmet on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:01 PM

WOOHOO I knew being a Chevy guy would payoff.  Ok well I have one for all the Ford guru's out there.

 

Ford designed the FE(or FT if it was in a truck or schoolbus).  The FE was never very popular as a hotrodder engine despite it's torque.  The way the air went through the intake and into the heads was not efficient to say the least.

 

Anyway the question here is actually a 2 parter regarding Ford FE engines.

a. What does FE stand for?

b. The FE series had 10 displacements.  3 of those displacements had identical bore sizes.  What were the displacements for those engines, what was that bore size, AND what was the corresponding stroke?

 

 

BONUS question(not good for any points): The AMC Rear axles used the guts from WHAT Manufacturer?

    

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, April 1, 2010 12:54 AM

Sounds more like a four parter.

FE= Ford-Edsel

332, 352, 360, 361, 390, 391, 406, 410, 427, 428

360, 390, 410

360; 3.5" stroke

390; 3.784" stroke

410; 3.98" stroke

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, April 1, 2010 12:56 AM

Bore size was 4.052"

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Posted by fantacmet on Thursday, April 1, 2010 11:50 PM

It was the 360, 390, and 391, so you were close.  That adds up to a passing grade as far as I can tell, so it's all yours.

    

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, April 2, 2010 7:25 AM

What was one of the main reasons that Ferrari started putting V-12s in it's early racing cars. Besides the fact that Mr. Ferrari himself just liked the sounds they emmitted after riding in a Packard with a V-12. The answer I am looking for has more to do with an engineering perspective.

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Posted by A10wrthg on Friday, April 2, 2010 8:02 AM

more power and torque

plus their just awesomeWink

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, April 2, 2010 4:18 PM

Lighter individual valve train components & pistons allowing higher revs from the same displacement with fewer cylinders.  Or not......

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, April 2, 2010 8:00 PM

bobbaily

same displacement with fewer cylinders.

Is it me or is it getting warm in here?

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, April 2, 2010 8:36 PM

Actually, I was referring to the non V-12 engines having the same displacement with fewer cylinders, therefore having heavier pistons and rods, thus limiting rpms.....and horsepower...

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, April 2, 2010 8:40 PM

Ahhh ok, well the displacement and cylinder idea is along the lines I am looking for.

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Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, April 3, 2010 9:23 AM

bobbaily

Actually, I was referring to the non V-12 engines having the same displacement with fewer cylinders, therefore having heavier pistons and rods, thus limiting rpms.....and horsepower...

...therefore, an engine of the same displacement but with more cylinders should/would have lighter pistons & rods & valve train, allowing higher rpm's and more horsepower.

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Posted by squeakie on Saturday, April 3, 2010 1:31 PM

bobbaily

Dunno if this is what you're thinking about, but Studebaker used a Chevy engine in the Avanti back in the 60's/70's?  Might have even been a complete GM chasis/drivetrain.

the last couple years they were in business, Studebaker used Chevy engines with their own drive train parts. The Studebaker powered Avantis are the sought after ones if that matters. Studebaker used either a Borgwarner automatic or a T-10 four speed (the auto was similar to the Ford automatic). I think they used a Chrysler 8.75" rear end under their V8 powered cars

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Posted by squeakie on Saturday, April 3, 2010 1:32 PM

bobbaily

Dunno if this is what you're thinking about, but Studebaker used a Chevy engine in the Avanti back in the 60's/70's?  Might have even been a complete GM chasis/drivetrain.

the last couple years they were in business, Studebaker used Chevy engines with their own drive train parts. The Studebaker powered Avantis are the sought after ones if that matters. Studebaker used either a Borgwarner automatic or a T-10 four speed (the auto was similar to the Ford automatic). I think they used a Chrysler 8.75" rear end under their V8 powered cars

gary

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