Question about the engine in the Charger 500

When I can find the disc again and get it cleaned up, I'll have to rip it, but it's from a band that nevre really got off the ground, they broke up before then.  However they did get 3 songs recorded,and it's stuff you'll find nowhere, but it's really good.  I'll have to send you the songs.  I was supposed to be doing promotional work for them, for a percentage but they broke up.  Oh well.  I've been in a couple bands myself.  One could never find all the peopel it needed, and the other one was plagued because the guitarist and drummer were a married couple, with drama issues.  Oh well.  I've since sold off all my big gear.  My studio equipment, and now just have a practice amp I built from a cheapo Squire, and I have 2 guitars and a yamaha keyboardf, and that's it.  Although I do have a very good friend who owns one of the top music stores in the state.  Too bad you live far away I'd love to do a jam session with ya.

As for the model.  PICTURES PLEASE!  I've kind of gotten inspired to build a dodge again and am working on my 67 GTX now, and am getting ready to start working on my Charger Daytona again, which is partially done.  I don't remember which issue it was in, but it's a Scale Auto Issue(try asking Aaron Skinner he can find out which issue), and you can get the back issue or just the article, but it is a complete detailed buildup of Erevell's Dart GTS.  It's amazing how easy it is to add details to these Dodge kits and make them look great.

I do have one tip for you, to help in the detailing arena, and it only works on the old dodges just because of the design of the alternators.  On the 1:1 cars you can see right through the ribs, and see the red enamal coated wires inside.  Take an ultrafine brush, and some Tamiya or Testors clear red, and paint in between each of those ribs.  It makes a WORLD of difference just that one detail and helps to make it pop.  It makes it look like you shrunk a real alternator down to scale and bolted it on.  Very simple, and easy technique to make the engine lookmore detailed then it is.

I play Heavy Metal professionally, but in "real life" I play all kinds of music--a good song is a good song, period, and I don't really restrict my interests! I don't really sing--only to my girl, Jenn!

Interesting info about the engine possibilities there, fantacmet--thanks for the input! I have decided to go with the blue--mixed some up and shot it yestrday!  

fantacmet wrote:

Although with Chrysler Co you oculd use either or.  AS did happen sometimes back then sometimes supplies were not abundant enough.  While some people may shut downan entire factory because you run out of the color of paint for the engine, Chrysler is smart enough to NOT stop the assembly line until new paint comes in, they would just switch to the other color.  This did happejn on several occasions, so going either color would be historically accurate if not prototypically accurate.  Similar things happened in GM plants.  Youhad Chevy Engine Orange and then a blue used on Buicks and such.  Also don't forget customer special orders as well, although I am not aware of any specific cases.  I wouldn't want an orange engine in a blue car, it'd look funny. I've never seen a muticarb Chrysler engine that was painted orange, and I've seen hundreds of them. Single carb engines (except for hemis and NASCAR wedges) were always the aqua color. Might add here that most NASCAR motors used painted valve covers that were the same orange color when shipped from the factory. Race car engines and multi carb engines were not normally built on the same assembly lines as the standard engines (there were exceptions here and there), and paint was never an issue here. Orange became the standard with the 413 max wedge engines in 1962, and Chrysler actually ran an add campaign called "the orange monster." Tobe exact the only multi carb engines painted in aqua were made in 1962 & 1963 and earlier (343 hp, 383 for one). The vast majority of these were installed in the 300 letter series cars sold by Chrysler. All the early hemis I've seen were painted in black. gary gary What kind of music do you play?  If it's metal or country I'm interested.  I myself I play metal on my guitar, sing country, and as for the keyboard, just whatever.

Although with Chrysler Co you oculd use either or.  AS did happen sometimes back then sometimes supplies were not abundant enough.  While some people may shut downan entire factory because you run out of the color of paint for the engine, Chrysler is smart enough to NOT stop the assembly line until new paint comes in, they would just switch to the other color.  This did happejn on several occasions, so going either color would be historically accurate if not prototypically accurate.  Similar things happened in GM plants.  Youhad Chevy Engine Orange and then a blue used on Buicks and such.  Also don't forget customer special orders as well, although I am not aware of any specific cases.  I wouldn't want an orange engine in a blue car, it'd look funny.

What kind of music do you play?  If it's metal or country I'm interested.  I myself I play metal on my guitar, sing country, and as for the keyboard, just whatever.

the doog wrote:

WOw, GAry--coool beans; I can see where your vast knowledge of details comes from--that's way cool! Thanks for the info! I'm about as informed about cars as I am about nuclear reactors! LOL! For instance--"clutch linkage"? "Shift inkage"?---clueless, believe it or not! Now, I can tell you how to replace the power valve, balance a crankshaft, or re-jet a carburetor in a motorcycle pretty well, but when it comes to cars, I own Chevettes, and an Accord beater before I switched to trucks to carry my dirt bikes! And I still don't work on them--no garage makes it kinda hard! (I rent!) I've been finishing up a single that my band is giving away to fans who have bought tickets to our Festival in Europe on July 9-12. It's called the "Magic Circle Music Festival". We headline Friday and Saturday nights, in Bad Arolsen, Germany. I leave here in about 9 days. I think you can google it?

I was really the oddball in my family in that I owned a hemi car. Everybody else was into wedges. We've been thru various stroker motors and what now seems like an endless stream of multi carb setups (I was raised in the one carb is crude & boring group). I was lucky enough to be in the middle stages of drag racing before the big guys fixed it to make more money. My brother was the kid who smoked the Hot Rod Magazine project car back in 1969 (they laughed about it afterwards till they found out how simple his setup was).

    Right now I'm looking for a couple 27 Ford bodies for a pair of projects in the future. One is a rear engined Bonneville modified roadster powered by a Donovan 417. The other will be a sordid copy of my old 27 Ford rat rod. I aso have two other Bonneville projects in the works (still rounding up the parts). One will be a blown 32 Ford, and the other will be a 34 Ford with a 497" blown hemi to run in A fuel roadster at Bonneville (can you tell where my heart's at?) Anybody here want to try a Bonneville group build some day? Cars must meet the rule books, and better yet must be a model of a real car that ran at Bonneville (there's everything from bikes to streamliners [even steam driven]). Goto the SCTA website and see what they brung.

    Onto music; I listen to about everything but polka music. But my hearts into acoustic jazz and Russian Classical. My current collection is about 2,000 LP's and close to a thousand CD's.

gary

WOw, GAry--coool beans; I can see where your vast knowledge of details comes from--that's way cool! Thanks for the info! I'm about as informed about cars as I am about nuclear reactors! LOL!

For instance--"clutch linkage"? "Shift inkage"?---clueless, believe it or not!

Now, I can tell you how to replace the power valve, balance a crankshaft, or re-jet a carburetor in a motorcycle pretty well, but when it comes to cars, I own Chevettes, and an Accord beater before I switched to trucks to carry my dirt bikes! And I still don't work on them--no garage makes it kinda hard! (I rent!)

I've been finishing up a single that my band is giving away to fans who have bought tickets to our Festival in Europe on July 9-12. It's called the "Magic Circle Music Festival". We headline Friday and Saturday nights, in Bad Arolsen, Germany. I leave here in about 9 days. I think you can google it?

the doog wrote:

Thanks so much Gary--I ought to just forgo the postings and email you directly. Geez, man!--you DO know your stuff! I'm impressed! OK, so I'll be repainting it blue then ....say, where do you get your info from? It's gotta come first-hand I woud suspect? What do you own, a resto-shop or something? I'll get those pics found later today; been in the studio most of the day.... Hey--what about the (tranny?) cases behind the engine itself--engine color, or metallic grey?

the automatics were just bare aluminum, but the four speeds were pretty much black with a hint of rust highlites. Shift linkage will be gold color or silver with a chrome handle. The clutch linkage was always painted black.

    I used to own a race hemi back in the day. One of our buddies was the guy who invented the twin plug head for hemis, and the factory later adapted it. Once you've owned one you're sorta stuck with them as nothing else will ever do again. The funny thing now is that a lot of folks want one, but have no idea how to make one run. All they know how to do is to bolt on a bunch of parts that might and might not work. Sad thing is that a 16 year old kid with a set of wrenches can make 750hp without ever working up a sweat!

    In the studio? I'm assuming your doing a recording session or down mixing. Right? I know a lot of musicians from all over the place.

gary

Thanks so much Gary--I ought to just forgo the postings and email you directly. Geez, man!--you DO know your stuff! I'm impressed!

OK, so I'll be repainting it blue then ....say, where do you get your info from? It's gotta come first-hand I woud suspect? What do you own, a resto-shop or something?

I'll get those pics found later today; been in the studio most of the day....

Hey--what about the (tranny?) cases behind the engine itself--engine color, or metallic grey? 

the doog wrote:

Was it orange, or light blue? I'm using the stock engine set-up with one carb and the circular air cleaner. Thanks!

OK, if the engine has one carb the color will be an aqua color with a matte black air cleaner. Original distributor caps were black as well as the wires. There was writing on the air cleaner top denoting the engine size. All multi carb engines are orange except for a small handfull of kinda rare engines (343hp. 383, 390 hp 413, and some engines that came with radical cross rams built in the very early sixties).

    But to add even more confusion, let us drop back to the fifties a minute. Those motors that had two four barrels were painted black if my memory is right (have not seen one since the sixties), and the air cleaners were gold in color. Chrysler built many engines with two four barrel carbs back then.

gary