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THE FINAL HURDLE!... 1:20 scale scratch built B17G

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Foz
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  • From: S.E Bulgaria
Posted by Foz on Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:56 AM

Afternoon all!

 

This post is likely to be a bit photo heavy of building the Auxiliary DC generator for my B17!

 

 

The generator was built by looking at just a few photos I found  and I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed making it!....I used scrap plastic and wire as materials and I have taken a photo of each stage of the build. 

First off....this is a photo of a real generator that I am trying to replicate......

 

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Tuesday, October 27, 2020 5:25 AM

 Lets try that again!Sad

 

 

 

 

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Tuesday, October 27, 2020 5:43 AM

Good day all!

 

Hope all is good where you all are and that everyone is staying safe from this virus!...2020 has been a terrible year for us all and the sooner it's all over with... the better! Lets hope and pray for a better 2021!

 

 

So on with the next part of this project!.....the tail wheel section!.....I have been kind of dreading this next part as there is lack of information and photos of this area of the B17. If you look for photos in books or the internet it's always the same.The whole area is covered with tarpaulin blocking out all the parts you want to see! Enthusiasts go for visits to see the B17 armed with their cameras and they can crawl all over the fuselage snapping away but the tail wheel well area is nearly always out of bounds!

 

I believe this is because the area is so confined that visitors would have to get on there belly's to crawl through and for health and safety issues. Well of course this doesn't help us modellers!

 

How ever I did managed to find a few photos of said area after hours of searching...(although only seeing certain angles on most of the photos)  which meant I had to use my imagination for the areas that I just cant see!....the usual artistic license had to be got out of the draw!

 

So as you know I am building this fuselage in two halves....top and bottom ...so I have started with the bottom half.

I had to make the tail wheel tub that the wheel retracts to and this was molded from plastic food packaging.

 

 

Here is the balsa wood plug that I made....

After heating up the plastic and using the plug (plug and mold procedure) and ended up with this. You can see that I have added some detail with strips of plastic

The wheel well floor was then made from plastic card.....

..and from the underside...

The wheel tub was then glued into position...

Now for the wheel.

 

I hate making wheels!...I find it difficult!...I usually make them out of balsa wood and this time it was no exception!...it's my own fault as I haven't invested in a mini lathe....but that is all going to change soon....going to look for one!....meanwhile this wheel was whittled to shape by eye!

Time to paint the wheel tub area....

Here is the tail wheel strut...

Here is the tail wheel assembly fork head attached to the wheel....

The rest of the frame was then made from metal and electrical cables were added from wire...

Here you can see that I have placed the tail wheel onto the tail frame.....

I then glued the painted tail wheel strut onto the frame.....

The tail wheel area was in fact covered with a fitted tarpaulin and I thought about leaving it off because it would cover all the detail and at the end of the day this project is all about showing the workings of the B17G ....so I then I had an idea of making a cover and having it pulled back so a mechanic could get at it to inspect!

 

The tarpaulin was made from a painted sheet of tissue paper....the eyelets made from small cuts from a piece of wire insulation and the tie cord was made from thread from the wife's sewing box and threaded by one of her needles....that took some doing I'll tell you!...I broke off the Wheel strut in the process and had to re set it!

 

Here is the cover......

So that is the lower half of the tail wheel area complete.

 

 

I have started the upper half of this area and it involves the re tractor  motor and gears to bring up the tail wheel....and if I thought that this lower half was difficult I thought wrong!.....but we will leave that till the next post!

 

 

So until then ...Thanks a lot for looking and following this non stop build!

 

 

Cheers

 

Fozzy

 

Foz
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  • From: S.E Bulgaria
Posted by Foz on Wednesday, November 4, 2020 6:57 AM

Hi there guys

 

 

Time for another update

 

My last post was the building of the bottom half of the tail wheel section and this time its the detail above the tail wheel!....I have had a lot of trouble finding information and photos of this area as I mentioned in the last post which forced me to kind of use my imagination a bit!....Well I was photographing what I had done and decided to take it all apart because I came across a photo of a C-1 auto pilot unit that sits on a tray just above the tail wheel!(2 days of work down the drain!Crying) .....I have found that there seems to have been different pieces of equipment depending on the model and year of the aircraft!....this of course gave me a headache because I had to decide what I was going to place in this area ....so I went with the C-1 autopilot.

 

The other big problem I had was the fact that some of the parts extended from the roof of the fuselage down to the floor!....this was difficult for me as I had to line it all up so that when the upper and lower halves were joined it all connected up!...so a lot of trial and error and dry fitting took place!...the joys of scratch building!Smile

 

So the first 2 photos is of the retracting gear assembly just above the tail wheel it self....I built this out of bits of plastic and a cutting of one of my Bass guitar strings (kind of looks like the activating screw!)....

A few more parts now added and more Bass guitar strings!

The two white unpainted plastic parts you see in this next photo was the real problem lining up with the bottom section!

Here is my attempt at making the C-1 auto pilot unit.......

...and painted...

So after it was all painted ,here is the end result with the two halves together showing you different angles....

...and my favourite shots of looking down through the fuselage!!....

I still have to place a few cables coming from the Auto pilot unit but that's basically the tail wheel area complete.

 

So I turned my attention to the control line rigging that I thought would be easy compared with the last bit....I guess it was just time consuming and fiddly!

 

I first made 8 x cable guides that keep the control lines away from the fuselage sides...it took me hours!!

The cable guides were then put in place and then using some fishing line I pulled it all  taught from one end of the fuselage through to the rear. I did made a mistake and had to move the position a tad as I forgot to line the cables up with the cables on the front section of this B17G already built ...duhh!

Okay.....so now I had to turn my attention to the area between the tail wheel and the Cheyenne turret at the rear.

 

This is causing this project to come to a grinding halt! I have trawled the internet for hours and hours...looked in books and I just cant seem to find any photos/drawings/diagrams....absolutely nothing except the flooring!...There is the Elevator and hinge control cable actuated mechanisms above the floors ....but alas nothing but a few obscure photos either out of focus or just a slight glimpse of what I need!....I resorted to looking at photos of damaged B17s that have the tail unit blown off!....you kind of get a rough idea of the area but of course it's all mangled metal!....I have also written to the Lyon Museum in California who have "Fuddy Duddy" on display to see if they can help me...waiting for a response.

 

Here is the said area....

So if any of you great modellers have any info or photos that I haven't seen then please please give me the heads up!....but I'm not holding my breath!

Well that's it for now.....till the next time...

 

Cheers for looking in

Fozzy

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:04 PM

You might shoot an e-mail to the Erickson Collection in Madras Oregon.  They have a "G", now named Madras Maiden.  Used to be"Chucky".

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, November 6, 2020 12:26 AM

Really nice work.  Very fun to follow along. Thanks for sharing your build. 

Thanks,

John

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Friday, November 6, 2020 2:38 AM

keavdog

Really nice work.  Very fun to follow along. Thanks for sharing your build. 

 

 

Well...thank you for taking a look!Smile....posting actually helps me with the progression of the build!

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Friday, November 6, 2020 2:41 AM

goldhammer

You might shoot an e-mail to the Erickson Collection in Madras Oregon.  They have a "G", now named Madras Maiden.  Used to be"Chucky".

 

 

Thanks for the heads up!....I am actually getting quite a bit of information and photos from fellow modelers across on other forums which I am pleased and somewhat relieved about!

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Thursday, November 26, 2020 5:42 AM

Good afternoon everyone

 

Time for an update!

 

In the last post I mentioned that I was having a problem with finding information and photographs of the area immediately to the rear of the tail wheel tub........Well since then I have had great help with photos and info from some fellow modelers ....so a BIG THANK YOU goes out to Ol'Scrapiron for his help in sending me the photos that I desperately needed to continue with this part of the build. I also reached out to the museum that looks after B17G "Fuddy Duddy" to see if they could help me but I never got a reply!

So after shifting through all the photos and studying  them I came to the conclusion that a lot of the detail that I had already built into the area had to be changed as I was just guessing what it looked like from the photos I had!......so I carefully took pieces off here and there ready to start a fresh......very frustrating but it had to be done!

 

..................but before we get into all that I can show you some new detail that didn't need ripping out!

 

I made a fire extinguisher out of a plastic cocktail stick!......this first photo is of the real extinguisher....

 

 

...and here is my effort....

 

 

I placed it in the rear of my model.....can you see it!!!

 

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Thursday, November 26, 2020 5:44 AM
Foz
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Posted by Foz on Thursday, November 26, 2020 5:52 AM

So now to the correction of the detail in this area..............

From the new photos I noticed that there were not one but two C1 auto pilot units. In a sense I was pleased about this as the one I previously made seemed very long! After doing a bit of measuring I reckoned that if I cut the unit I made in half I could make the two I needed!...it would be just a case of adding some extra detail for the second unit and a bit of tidying up. So I carefully pulled the unit of its tray.....not easy as most of my detail I super glue in!...but never the less got it out without too much damage.It was then cut in half and made into two units........

 

 

...and then carefully glued back onto the shelf.....

 

 

OMG!.......The next correction was a lot more difficult!

One of the bulkheads at the rear of the tail wheel was in the wrong position by at least 5-7mm. Doesn't seem much in the scheme of things but it was throwing all the detail that I had to do out of scale! ....here is what I mean.....

 

 

 

 

It took me some time but adjusted it all in the end with pieces of plastic!

 

Now I was ready to detail the area with the use of the new photos. Between the two bulkheads past the tail wheel there is all the pulley system used to pass the control cables to the elevator and rudder....all very small and fiddly.......for example here is one of the many pulleys I had to make.......

 

 

So the next 6 photos show the re vamped bulkheads with all the pulleys attached .....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is that section painted........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Although it set me back a week or so I am pleased that I made the correction.....I have to say it was driving me mad as I knew it wasn't correct....at least now it looks a lot better!

 

Finally the photo shot that I like taking....I know you have seen it before but there are subtle differences!....well that's my excuse anyway!

 

 

Back to staring at photos before I attempt to continue to the rear of this B17!...Thanks a lot for looking at all this....appreciate it!

 

Cheers

 

Fozzy

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Sunday, December 6, 2020 8:37 AM

Hi guys

 

This will be my last post for this year as I am off to the UK in a couple of days time to see family and friends.

 

So another year is coming to an end (glad this one is nearly over!)...and this project still hasn't come to the end! I can't believe that I started this in 2011 with the nose section!....9 years later and I am still working on the tail end!......but realistically I think that I can get it all done next year!.....I do hope so as I really want to move on and build something else for a change!

 

Here is a photo of the all of the fuselage to date with my expert markings (not!!)....showing you that I am nearly at the tail end!

 

 

So this final post of this year is all about the elevator and rudder actuators......wasn't an easy task as I only had a few photos to go by kindly donated by Ol'scrapiron....but I got there in the end and this is how it all turned out.

To start with,  this is the elevator mechanism.The tube/bar was made from an old plastic sprue and the rest from cut pieces of plastic.....

 

 

 

 

 

You can see a few cables attached that operate the mechanism.

The next few photos show it all painted.......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now I turned my attention to the rudder actuator.....which was difficult as I only had shots of a very small part of it. Not to worry as when in place under the rudder you can hardly see it!....so I was lucky!!

Here it is ........

 

 

 

The platform was then constructed out of plastic and the mechanism dry fitted in place.....

 

 

 

 

 

Finally I painted the rudder actuator before placing on the frame..

 

 

 

and then painted the frame and placed the actuator in position........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Photographing this area isn't very fulfilling as you can't get the camera in the right position to take the shot ......but hopefully you can see the progress that I've made! 

 

So when I return from my break in UK I will bash on with the "Cheyenne" tail turret!

 

I do hope you all have a wonderful Xmas even under all the restrictions we all have this year due to Covid....and I wish you all a much better New Year than this last one!

 

All the best ...see you on here next February!

 

Cheers

 

Fozzy 

Foz
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  • From: S.E Bulgaria
Posted by Foz on Saturday, January 23, 2021 8:20 AM

Hi every one

 

Well first and foremost I want to wish everyone a Happy belated New Year!.......although it is difficult in these times!

 

Due to this blasted Covid-19 I am in lock down in UK and won't be returning to Bulgaria and my workshop  for ....who knows how long!Sad.....at least I am with my family but miss battling on with my B17G!

 

I haven't any modelling equipment here......nothing at all... but am thinking that Amazon might help with that situation!......I'll spend a few quid,... get some sort of starter pack tools and get myself a little 1:72 kit to tie me over!.....haven't done that for years so I am looking forward to it!Big Smile   

 

Meanwhile .....I haven't been idle ..... I decided to revamp my website and have got all my model photos in one place....so for those of you who want to take a look.........

 

                                         https://mfostermodels.wixsite.com/martin-foster-models

 

So until I return to my work bench and my B17 ......I wish you all the best and please stay safe!

 

Cheers

 

Fozzy

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Thursday, May 6, 2021 8:39 AM

Good afternoon guys!

 

I do hope that you are all keeping well and safe since the last time I posted.

 

 

I just can't believe its been 5 months since I last posted on here!......and 5 months away from my B17G!

 

 

I went to UK at the beginning of last December for Xmas and was due to return to Bulgaria mid February but of course Covid put an end to that plan! So as we were all in lock down I decided to wait in UK to have both my vaccinations and I am pleased to say that I have now had both! Whilst I was there I decided to get a few modelling supplies to tie me over and I made a couple of small models.

 

 

But now it's time to get on with this B17G..........so where were we?...oh yes!.... working on the tail section.

 

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Thursday, May 6, 2021 8:47 AM

I completed the detail in the tail section right up to the Cheyenne rear turret ...so I guess it's time to have a crack at that!

First things first.....I made the support post and platform for the MGs...as you can see in this photo....

A plate made from plastic card was then built which will eventually sit in position above the guns....

I then painted the gun support.....

I decided that the best way to get the detail done in this Cheyenne turret was to get the 50 cals completed and placed on the support and then build all the other detail around them.

So .... because I have still got to do another two MGs for the waist guns later , I decided to build those along with the two that will go in the tail.....I cut some plastic pieces into blocks that will be the basic MG minus the barrels!

....and with the use of photos added the detail onto the blocks......

Plastic sprue came in handy now for the barrels.....luckily I had just the right size!

Pieces were cut to length and the barrel shroud was simulated by drilling holes along the length of the barrel.....

I placed flash suppressors, made from wire insulators onto the end of the barrels and then glued them onto the MGs ...and then painted them in Gun metal....

At this point I decided to place some detail onto the front end of the turret....I had done it months before but the detail somehow fell off!.....this time super glue was used!!

Adapter- gun mounts were made from plastic and wire and attached to the MGs.....fiddly as hell!!

That was then all painted.

 

The next 5 photos show the MGs all finished....

In the next post I will install the MGs onto the support frame but first I have to think about it as I somehow have to get the ammunition link to the guns!

 

 

It certainly is great to be back at the bench and tackling this monster of a build!.....So far it's taken me nearly 10 years to get this far....time flies when you're having fun!!

 

Until the next post....take care and thanks for looking in!

Fozzy

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, May 6, 2021 2:51 PM

Fozzy.

       I am still following ya. Now when you put the wingy thingies on her where ya gonna put her?

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Thursday, May 6, 2021 3:06 PM

Tanker-Builder

Fozzy.

       I am still following ya. Now when you put the wingy thingies on her where ya gonna put her?

 

Cheers!

No wings I'm afraid!....Fuselage only and she is going to a forever home in The Miniature Engineering craftsmanship Museum in Carlsbad California.

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Saturday, May 22, 2021 6:15 AM

Hi guys!

 

Time for another up date!...still battling on with the Cheyenne turret and this post is all about Ammo boxes ,rounds and seats!

 

 

So this first photo is of the two ammunition boxes I made from plastic card. I should point out at this stage that when I mounted them onto the Turret side walls I realized that they were far too long and had to cut them down to size!...1 step forward 2 steps back!.....

So here they are attached to the side walls....

It was time to put some music on and settle down for the afternoon to make the ammunition belts!....Of course I have done this for all the other guns on this project so far and knew it would be a rather a laborious task!

 

The belts are paper (so they can be flexible when placing them on the guns etc) and the rounds are hundreds of 4mm cut lengths of wire.

 

....more paper detail and by the end of the afternoon I had finished!

Time to put some paint on them!....

I then placed them onto the ammunition boxes....

I then turned my attention to the outside of the turret.

 

Most of the combat B17G Cheyenne turrets had the apertures where the barrels go through open...but the Warbirds have them closed off with zipped canvas as on "Fuddy Duddy" ....so this was replicated with the use of thin plastic.

Both the 50 cals were then glued to the internal frame minus the barrels which I will place on when the turret is complete....

....and the top plate was then glued into position over the guns.....

It was at this stage that I shortened the ammo boxes....what a drag!....my own fault ...I should have studied the reference photos more carefully!

 

It was now time to have a go at the old bicycle seat that the gunner sits on for hours on end!...I shaped a small block of balsa wood and covered it with thin plastic card and I also made the knee pads to go on either side of the seat.....

....and painted....

Looks bloody uncomfortable to say the least!

 

With the gunners seat in place ...the last 6 photos are what the turret looks like so far!

See you on the next post..

 

 

Thanks for taking a look!

 

Cheers

 

Fozzy

 

 

 

 

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Friday, May 28, 2021 4:16 AM

Hi there every one 

 

Here is the next post on this 10 year post!.......nearly there now...he says!

 

 

This post is all about adding more detail to the Cheyenne turret......so here we go.......

 

These first 4 photos show pieces of wire I have added in and around the turret which is supposed to represent air ducts for de misting purposes....well at least that is what I am led to believe!...and I can't believe it took me all afternoon just to cut the wire into correct lengths and super glue them on...the glue just wouldn't set for some reason...mind you it is Bulgarian super glue!

Once the glue was set I then painted them....the second photo shows the excess wire sticking up that will eventually be set against the frame of the perspex enclosure....

Next up was to scratch all the equipment that will go in the turret.

I love doing this sort of thing!......

If someone can enlighten me on why the turret had 2 oxygen regulators I would be very pleased!...no end of research will tell me this reason!....oxygen outlets on either side of the gunner?....who knows!....I bet it's obvious and I just can't see it!

Any how...the next 6 photos show all the equipment placed into the turret. .....the gunner really didn't have a lot of room in there!

So I then replicated a portable oxygen bottle out of Milliput and plastic...made a little bracket for it and placed it in the turret for the gunner to bang his head on!Wink

So that's it for this post.

Next up will be trying to make the sight and then placing the "canopy" on the top of it all!....which will then free me up to do the last bit of detailing which is the waist gun positions....and then..........well lets not get ahead of ourselves Fozzy!

Until the next time ...

Thanks for looking in

Fozzy

 

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Tuesday, June 1, 2021 10:11 AM
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Posted by PFJN2 on Tuesday, June 1, 2021 3:38 PM

Hi,

That looks great

Pat

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Wednesday, June 2, 2021 3:18 AM
Cheers Pat!
Foz
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Posted by Foz on Wednesday, June 16, 2021 7:23 AM

Hi everyone

 

 

Here then is the Cheyenne turret finished to the best of my abilities!

 

The canopy for the turret wasn't as simple as I thought it might have been! A few months back I had made the canopy to fit over the turret detail but when I looked at it more closely I noticed that the small window apertures behind the main front perspex were way to small!....and so started the re designing of the frame....after a few attempts of dry fitting to the fuselage I think I cracked it!

 

So the first 2 photos we have the modified canopy frame............

 

To make the perspex (glass) I raided my box of used food packaging and found a nice little piece that once covered a shaving stick package!.....it wasn't too thick luckily as I had to bend a piece around the front!....I cut them to the correct shape and then super glued the front wrap around piece first.

 

DISASTER!.....when the glue set I noticed it warped the frame!...aaaggghh!.....the plastic was too thick after all and so I had to take it off and find some thinner plastic that would do the job!....this time the thinner plastic worked and I placed the remaining pieces on the frame.

 

I then glued the entire frame over the turret and on to the fuselage. When it was set I placed a few of the aluminum pieces on parts of the frames as you can see in these next photos.....

All I had to do now ...(which normally takes a couple of days)... place the rest of the Aluminum around the frame. Of course I have to do the entire rear fuselage section but I have to wait until the top and bottom halves are on!

 

This now completes the Cheyenne turret at long last!

 

This is what she looks like at the blunt end of the fuselage!!!

 

I think my next task is to do the elevator connection detail....so that will be my next post!

 

 

I can now definitely see the light at the end of the tunnel ...after 10 long years!...you must all be sick of the the sight of it!! ...I know I'm beginning to!.. ha ha!

 

 

Thanks once again for looking in...

 

 

Cheers

 

Fozzy

 

 

 

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Saturday, June 26, 2021 2:26 AM

.........And another bit done!

 

I have to say I am flagging a bit!...finding it difficult to continue with this project. I guess I have been slogging at it for years now and really can't wait until it's all done! I am trying to get it complete before October comes as I am off to the UK and would like to try and take it with me on that trip....I don't know...we shall see!.....talking to myself here!

 

 

OK ...so I managed to get the Tail plane connection area complete...difficult shapes as the fuselage is round of course!....but I also added a bit of detailing as you can see in this first photo......

 

 

So I made the simple cartridge shoot for the Cheyenne turret and cut a slice of Coca Cola can for where the barrels go into the turret.

 

 

Now onto the Tail plane connection.

 

This was all scratch built with plastic card. If the tail plane was off the fuselage this is what it would look like. The protruding sort of 4 bars you see would be connected to the horizontal stabilizer and in the D shape there was a cog that operated the elevators...........

After it all was painted and weathered a tad this is the end result!....I made little canvas bags out of tissue paper to go over the D shape....this was to protect dust and dirt from entering the fuselage ...and saved me making connection cogs!

....and here is the tail section so far!.......

Right then.......the next part is actually the last internal detail that I will ever have to do on this project!....HOORAY!!!

But that's the next post...

 

Thanks for taking a look

 

Cheers

 

Fozzy

 

 

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Friday, July 9, 2021 9:19 AM

Hi to all!

 

 

I have been busy in the last week or so trying to get this project moving on to completion...even though I have had a few distractions like mowing oceans of grass in my garden and keeping the Tax man off me!

 

However I did manage to start on what will be the very last of the interior detail of this fuselage.....and that is the waist gunners positions.

 

I haven't done a lot but every little helps to get me closer to the end!...as I believe Mr Tesco's would say!...although it has got absolutely nothing to do with him!

 

I started by cutting all the pieces of wire to represent the rounds that will go into the ammunition boxes (you can see the top layer in the box if you're wondering why I would do that!Confused)

The boxes were made out of plastic card and the rounds were placed in the top.....

After painting them this is what they look like....

After looking at a few hundred photos I checked to see what equipment was needed for both gunners . ...oxygen bottles....oxygen regulators and their indicators...flying suit heater units ...intercom boxes...bail out alarm bell  and a matchstick!!!Hmm

 

The bottles were made from Milliput...which I always find difficult to use for some reason!...the rest was made from plastic and wire.....just to let you know I didn't scratch build the matchstick!

The last 4 photos show the equipment in place....

That's all folks!

 

 

Next up will be plexiglass and guns!

 

 

Thanks for taking a peek

 

 

Cheers

 

Fozzy

 

Foz
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Posted by Foz on Monday, July 26, 2021 4:26 AM

Hi all!

 

 

Another few weeks have passed and time for another post!....done quite a bit so it will be a big post!

 

I have finished both waist guns except for the ammunition belt which I will have to think about as it won't be easy!

 

First off I had to make the swivel mechanism that holds the gun in the perspex....so this first photo shows the wooden stick I will use!....just thought you might like to see the stick!!!!

 

After sawing a piece off and drilling a hole and sanding....this is how it looked....

Next photo shows the 2 plates that the swivel mechanisms are bolted to...

here we have it glued to one of the window frames....

The next photo shows a dry run of the fitting of the MG....and looking at it I must remember to take the sight post off the end of the barrel as that's for the MGs without the compensating sights on!

I rummaged through my collection of clear plastic packaging and found a suitable piece to make the perspex for both windows apertures.

I already half built the guns a few weeks back and now it was time to finish them off....

....and here they are completed ....

I had to do a little research on the K-13 Sperry Compensating sights that I wanted to add to these guns....so after searching the internet and gathering the photos together I started out on the sights...

 

The sights took me a week to make as they are tiny and quite complicated but got there in the end....here are both the guns with the sights attached and all painted and ready to fit into the fuselage......

I glued both guns onto their mounts through the perspex and added a little more detail ..like the control cables (that I haven't a clue what they actually operate.....something to do with.... adjusting ...something!!) ....

 

Any how here they are in the fuselage......

Going to have to rack my brains now for a solution on how to make the ammunition belts bend and twist from the ammo boxes to the guns.....so see you next year!

All the best and thanks for looking in!

 

Fozzy

 

 

 

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Posted by Kingslug on Monday, July 26, 2021 8:51 AM

Beyond amazing.....

Foz
  • Member since
    April 2011
  • From: S.E Bulgaria
Posted by Foz on Tuesday, July 27, 2021 1:54 AM

Kingslug

Beyond amazing.....

 

 

Thank you!Smile

Foz
  • Member since
    April 2011
  • From: S.E Bulgaria
Posted by Foz on Sunday, August 8, 2021 9:04 AM

 

Hi there to all!

OMG!Smile

 

 

 

I really can see the finishing post now!...In this last week I have been at this B17  every day trying to move it along!

 

Of course here in Bulgaria we are experiencing dangerous weather warnings of extreme high temperatures....like most of Europe I guess...most days 42C plus /107F...and so I had to vacate my workshop as it was far too hot in there and move into the bedroom as I have aircon there!...So I had to find an old table and take some tools from my workshop to the house (workshop is in another building from the house) and get on with the job at hand!

 

The end result being that I have completely finished all the internal detail , joined the top and bottom halves together and managed to skin the entire rear section!....so all in all I am really pleased!

 

Last post had me fitting the waist guns into the perspex windows but the very last detail after 10 years is to make the ammunition belts that feed the guns....so here are a few photos...

 

 

The ammo belts have to be able to twist and turn from the ammo boxes to the guns so I had to scrap the belt I had previously made as they wouldn't bend without snapping in half!.....so I decided to use slivers of aluminum from a Coca Cola can to make up the shape I needed to go from the ammo boxes to the guns!....you follow me?...probably not!....so here is a photo!......

In this way I have it bent to shape before I super glue all the hundreds of rounds...(cut pieces of wire...took all afternoon!!)

This next photo shows some of the rounds on the belt.

All I had to do then was enclose the rounds in the belts using strips of paper which when painted will hopefully look the part!

Here you see I have attached the belts to the ammo boxes and to the guns.....starting with the starboard MG

Here is the port MG

....and a couple of shots looking at both Waist guns from the rear....

Now came the part that I had been dreading for months and months and that was gluing the top and bottom halves together!

It had to be a strong setting glue that would be permanent and since the fuselage is constructed out of balsa wood I thought wood glue was the way to go....nope!...it's no good.....it will have to be super glue!....but I had to work fast and be accurate as if it didn't line up it would be impossible to take it apart without destroying the fuselage!.....so working from the rear to the front I super glued a few inches at a time....remembering to make sure all the internal detail was in line from the top to the bottom!

Finally after a few  nerve racking minutes it was complete!....all lined up and secure!...

That for me was a huge worrying part of this build.....it was as well  for the front section ,Bomb bay ,radio room!...still all done now!

Skinning!.......I kind of enjoy it!....very slow process but if I can get it right then worth the effort!

First of all I had to mark the entire fuselage  with a marker of where all the rivet lines go....that took a day!....and then all the separate panels had to be cut out of a sticky back aluminum sheet used on real aircraft kindly donated by my good modelling friend Finn and marked up for rivets and then placed onto the fuselage.....here are a couple of photos I took during the process...

So here we have in the next batch of photos the fuselage all skinned.

To finish off the rear section , all I have to do now is spray some markings including the USAF insignias.....and that will be that!

Of course  I say that will be that but then its buckle down to the display ideas I'm thinking of...which will involve more scratch building!

So until then....I will see you all on the next post  when she's all marked up and sprayed!

Cheers for looking in

Fozzy

 

 

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