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"Flash Out!" - 120mm OIF figure ( COMPLETE!!! )

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  • Member since
    April 2008
  • From: Charlottesville Va
Posted by Stern0 on Sunday, February 1, 2009 12:06 AM

Great job so far...really admire you taking on the modern stuff, the camo looks really taxing, looks like you got a handle on it. Yes the glasses are awsome...can't wait to see more.Thumbs Up [tup]

And thank all you hard chargers for serving your country!

Always Faithful U.S.M.C
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    December 2003
  • From: Colorado
Posted by psstoff995 on Saturday, January 31, 2009 4:10 PM
 modelchasm wrote:

Yea, I was messing around with PB .... I fixed all the links though, so the world should be good again.

Oh ok, good deal- and those glasses look great!

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

  • Member since
    March 2008
  • From: East TX
Posted by modelchasm on Saturday, January 31, 2009 4:09 PM

Yea, I was messing around with PB .... I fixed all the links though, so the world should be good again.

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

  • Member since
    March 2008
  • From: East TX
Posted by modelchasm on Saturday, January 31, 2009 4:07 PM

Here's the only update that I've really got for today.

Added about 3x coats of Future to the sunglasses ... REALLY made the face "pop" ...

Hopefully will get some more work done this evening.

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Colorado
Posted by psstoff995 on Saturday, January 31, 2009 3:51 PM
 modelchasm wrote:

Kind-of flying around with only one set of eyes looking at this thing. And my wife's, "It looks good honey", doesn't really count.

I know how that can be, something about the figure forums tend slow down responses.

I'm sure you'll get some good critiques and suggestions, problem is it might sit fo a bit before that happens. Good to hear about the weathering and the hard use and good luck on the sharpness, I'm confidant you'll figure it out Smile [:)]

Edit- I scrolled up to find all the links for your pictures broken- I went down to the URL and scrolled through your photobucket- they're still there, did you rename them or reorganize them into a folder? For whatever reason they show up as "moved or deleted".  Confused [%-)]

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

  • Member since
    March 2008
  • From: East TX
Posted by modelchasm on Saturday, January 31, 2009 3:33 PM

I'm not too worried about the color right now. It'll definately help once the washes and shadows go on. I'm planned on weathering the helmet and vest pretty good as they were used all the time.

However, I do agree that the sharpness needs to be cleaned up a bit. I'm going to try and use a needle to clean it up and then from here on out for the pixelation.

Anyone else have any suggestions or comments ... Kind-of flying around with only one set of eyes looking at this thing. And my wife's, "It looks good honey", doesn't really count.

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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  • From: Colorado
Posted by psstoff995 on Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:13 PM

haha have fun with the yard!

Masking tape huh? I noticed you used that on the helmet too, I'll have to try that out, it looks like it turns out nice.

 modelchasm wrote:

The biggest problem that I've had with the "toothpick" method by Maki, is that I've found you have to redip for each "dot", touch it to a paper towel to get the excess off, and then the pick MUST BE AT 90 degrees. Otherwise you end up with an actual dot.

Ah, that makes senes then- it sounds like quite the process- after looking at some ACU pictures and comparing them to MARPAT- I realize the totorial I drew up (the way I had painted my MARPAT) doesn't really translate to the ACU as you and Maki are right, it is more of a "Tigerstripe" pattern of somekind layered into the mix. The MARPAT just has a dash of the darker color in little stand alone sections- ACU does have everything all in the mix at once.

The sewing needle tip sounds promising, you might also concider thinning the paint a little bit to avoid that ball like surface tention build up of paint? Unless the paper towel meathod is easier to control (actually, I have a problem with my thinned paint and it gets too runny)

 modelchasm wrote:

But yes, after looking at it this morning, I'm going to go back and try to sharpen up the pixels on the helmet. I may try using a sewing needle instead.

That's an important part of the hobby to, is stepping back for a while and then looking at it with fresh eyes. Again, it's not that it came out bad, I think some sharpening up, maybe the sewing needle- some kind of final stage of- "ok, now it's done" as it looks like it's right on that edge of finished.

I've also found that giving a complex paint job like this an overal wash with a common color and some shadding and stuff like that also seams to help. But you definitly have the skills and the patience to make this one turn out great!

Look forward to your updates.

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

  • Member since
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  • From: East TX
Posted by modelchasm on Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:13 AM

Thanks Chris,

To get to some of your questions ... and real quick, cause I'm supposed to be doing the yard, TEE HEE! ...

The flex-cuff are simply made from strips of masking tape, w/ a PE buckle from the parts bin.

The wire coming out from the back side of the pants pockets are a pull-string that sinches up the thigh pockets. I find them HIGHLY annoying, so I usually cut mine out, but I thought they added a little bit to modernize the uniform.

The biggest problem that I've had with the "toothpick" method by Maki, is that I've found you have to redip for each "dot", touch it to a paper towel to get the excess off, and then the pick MUST BE AT 90 degrees. Otherwise you end up with an actual dot. The only other hard part about the ACU pattern I've found is that while it's somewhat based on the tiger stripe camo, the ACU pattern isn't as blatantly horizontal .... although, you're overall pattern should be. But yes, after looking at it this morning, I'm going to go back and try to sharpen up the pixels on the helmet. I may try using a sewing needle instead.

Just my My 2 cents [2c].

Will post more later today.

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

  • Member since
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  • From: Colorado
Posted by psstoff995 on Saturday, January 31, 2009 4:52 AM

WOW! Well it's getting real late but I HAD to check this out- and I must say

Scratchbuilding + firsthand knowledge = one awesome step by step

The equipment and uniform updates are awesome- a lot of ROTC guys around where I'm at and... well- without the large velco patches- those pen/pencil pockets are hard to notice anyway. I remember thinking the same thing when I put this kit together- if Verlinden gets one thing right it's their sweet folds- really deep and intricate

I will agree with you though, it was like the legs and torso were from 3 different kits- a lot of putty there! In fact it was how I was introduced to the stuff- there was no way I could have built mine up without it.

I think by simply switching out the head on this guy you've greatly improved and modernized the kit

The ACU on the helmet had me worried at first until I caught up with the reading- that does look like multicam!

Good save- the redo looks just like the ACU! -that's really strange that it's all grays and tans, I would have been mixing greens for ever!

Love what you did with the M4 as well- looks much nicer than the OOB one and again- another key part to bring this guy up to date. Again- there's only so much I can actually critique on- the NVG mount looks awesome- and the little loops on the shoulders of the vest- the right one is scrunched in/higher up than the left one! You even got the vest loops physics taken care of! That's too cool, I would have never even thought of that.

All I have are questions really- is the round thing on his chest a radio toggle switch of some kind?

What did you make the flex cuffs out of? Just thin styrene?

The metal looking paper clip kinda piece sticking out of his left cargo pocket- is that... to hold the gas mask bag or some other accessory?

I really like the idea of painting the straps/radio wires to the weapon/head

That simplifies things for sure! I'm going to wind up trying to manipulate my materials with tweasers to get them on... and then probably painting them after the fact Sigh [sigh]

Good work sir! Good work indeed.

If I can say anything at all to help out with the ACU, it looks as if you might have gone in an up and down motion with a little blob of paint- again like you said, at this scale it looks fine and very much representative of the pattern, I might sugest (and this is if you didn't try this as I can't tell) is to try and paint the finer "dots" in almost a hatching and cross hatching kind of way.

For the singular dots at 1/16 scale, if I were to include them- it would probably be with a toothpick as sugested in Maki, however what I decided (partially out of laziness I'll be honest) was at the scale it was doing me more harm than good to try and represent individual marks, so I figured they were "too small" to be seen and instead went for the larger marks-

This is a REALLY BAD! concept drawing I made in photoshop using my laptop touchpad mouse so definitly not the best- the colors are off and the percentage of coverage is nowhere close- the steps are basically the same as Maki- but instead of painting in large areas- it's all built up in straight lines which IMO helped me (might not work for you/anyone else though, everyone has their own style and grove) to keep things at 90 degree angles and the idea of digital pixles all looking somewhat on par.

Not saying you did it wrong or it doesn't look good, just trying to tell you how I got there incase you were looking for a different method

I'd also try experimenting with different brush sizes/toothpick point vs the thin/angled edge kind of "stamped" on to make a line? But it's looking really nice so far, just the only thing I thought I could try and give some constructive feedback on, everything else either looks amazing or makes me wonder why I didn't think of it!

Here's my old version of the same kit- maybe you'll understand why I'm totally blown away Tongue [:P]

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

  • Member since
    March 2008
  • From: East TX
"Flash Out!" - 120mm OIF figure ( COMPLETE!!! )
Posted by modelchasm on Saturday, January 31, 2009 3:18 AM

The background: Since returning from my last deployment to Iraq, I haven't been able to shake the need to model things from my memory. I tried to continue working WWII era projects that I started BEFORE deploying again, but they just aren't interesting to me right now. So, I started doing research and I'm sure that most of you already figured out just what I did ... that when kits say modern, they mean 1990'ish. Fortunatly, there are kits that are slowly starting to come out from OIF/ OEF era. However, most of these are 1/35 and I really wanted to work at least at the 120mm scale.

The kit: ... or at least the base for the whole thing, is Verlinden's 101st Airborne Figure.

 

I also used the head and most of the gear from a few different Airborne Miniature 120mm figures that I've got saved.

On to the build: Upon looking at everything that I had, I figured I had to start somewhere. So, I started with the rebuild of the vest. The Verlinden figure has the older style vest issued around 2001 and before. I wanted my fig to have the OTV vests that we wore in '07. In looking at the picture, on the left side is still pretty much original. On the right, I've sanded down the Camelbak straps and replaced the molle straps on the vest. I've also sanded off the blouse tails from under the vest, as we always tucked in our tails. Surprisingly, there was a lot of putty that had to go into fitting the fig together.

 

After getting the fit right, I had to turn the DCU uniform into the new ACU's. About the only things that I wasn't able to fix were the slanted thigh pockets and the triple pen pockets on the left sleeve. I guess I could have, but I didn't really want to mess up the deep folds that were in these areas. I added upper arm and calf pockets with sheet styrene and alum from a coke can. The original "jungle" soles on the boots were sanded off and replaced with "ripple" soles using putty. Once the putty was hardened, I gave it a CA glue soak just to keep it from crumbling at the edges. The vest also go a kelvar yoke/ collar, and a kevlar throat protector from sheet styrene.

The M4 had a few pieces that were replaced with better casts from Airborne Miniatures. Most specifically the SureFire and the ACOG, as I had these on my weapon before changing over to the M14 ... (see my other post "M14 dilemma", as I had wanted to use it here instead of the M4). Oh well. The helmet had to be sort-of reconstructed. The Verlinden kit came with a PASGT helmet, so I sanded off the front lip and did a little sanding near the "ears", added some band straps on the back and a couple IR square and we were good to go. However, there was one hurdle left ... the MVG mount. We always kept ours mounted, so I had to figure out how to scratch build one. After much deliberation, I went with small pieces of alum from a can, two short pieces of wire (and a lot of CA glue) and poof and NVG mount. Since the helmet band was in the way, I sanded it down as well, mounted the NVG mount, and then replaced the helmet band used masking tape.

 

I had thought about leaving all the gear off, painting and then assembling everything, but I hated the thought of having all these little pieces to keep up with ... so I hung the gear ....

A week or two went by, mostly b/c of work, but also b/c I wasn't sure what to do next. So I dove right in to priming and sand

ing ... wash, rinse, repeat.

 

 

Which bring me to the present. I had Friday off, so I started in with the face. I love Vallejo acrylics for the skin areas. I think they give the best finish. I'm also using MM acrylics for washes and for the uniform and gear. The face got 2x base coats of light flesh, an overall wash of burnt umber with a touch of warm flesh color, and then the shadows darkened with burnt umber with touch of dark gray. I found the darks to be a little much as the face will be surrounded by a black chin strap, so I gave the highlighting process a little more attention than normal. I still may go back over it again. I just thought I'd leave it along until I heard from the gallery.

Base coats...

 

Washed ...

 

Shadowed ....

and highlighted ...

The "shades" will be getting multiple treatments of Future.

I also decided to try and settle my nerves about the ACU pattern by tackling the helmet. I figured it wouldn't take too long .... boy was I wrong!!! I've been following "Maki's" write-up on painting the ACU pattern and it's worked out great. The only difference that I've found is that when I tried to follow the colors he used. I came out with something that looked like multi-cam...

So, I broke out an old pair of ACU's from the deployment ... faded, torn, old ... and began to match colors. Literally painting the ACU's themselves to get the right match. Suprisingly enough, I ended up using NO GREEN AT ALL. The colors matched perfectly using only shades of grey with a deck tan base color. I didn't get it as pixilated at I really wanted, but I think that it comes across ok in the scale.

That's pretty much it for right now. Please be honest and let me know where I can improve on this.

I will be starting in on the rest of the uniform, vest, and gear in the morning .... after my "chores" are done first of course.

Oh yea ... the base/ dio ... haven't even touched it yet. However, the figure will be just outside a doorway preparing to throw in a flash-bang grenade (forgot ... I modified the hand as well.) The original pose was propped up and didn't look all that natural to me. However, when you took the fig off the "rock" and put both feet on flat ground, it looks like he's got forward momentum .... Now we're talkin'!!!

Again, please be honest so I can improve this build. Thanks for letting me rant and thanks to those that have helped me along the way thus far.

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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