"Midnight Raid in Mosul" Dio & Write-up....

I think a light coat would work fine as modelchasm pointed out it there's not much water for heavy rust? Made sense to me!

I'm sure it looks alright, I usually have a tendancy to overweather (mainly just beacuse its fun!) so doing it in small steps and then coming back later to check it out is a good way to stay objective about the amount of weathering involved.

Sounds good though- can't wait to see the building finished up!

Well, here's the deal on that ... where ever you are, if there's water, there's going to be rust. They typically didn't paint their piping, so I think that I nice light - medium/ heavy rust layer would be fine. (yeah, I know .... I listed all three levels just for clarity! HAHA!!)

I think that if you were to paint the piping a rust-up color and then LIGHTLY have the rust stain run down the wall a bit where there are brackets connecting the pipe to the wall, I think that would look about right. Don't let the stain run the length of the wall, but rather just a little bit down from each bracket. Also, along the wall ... it may not really call for a rust stain running down the wall, as it would maybe just a water stain. Does that make sense? I think that you could either go with a lighter stain to suggest faded paint from the water or a darker stain to suggest a water leak ....

OOOOOOooooo OOOOoooo .... NOW you HAVE to make a small water puddle on the base just at the foot of the piping .... those damn things always leaked a little bit ... HA HA ... you HAVE to make a water puddle!!!! (... sorry dude ...)

I know that I wasn't too clear, but I hope that helps point you in the right direction at least a little bit. If not, just let me know and I'll try to clarify ....

Aww .. c'mon ... part (spit) ner! You go'ter-sef sum Teeeeexan in ya too! You wur station'd at Hood!!!

... but you went drinkin' in Austin too. So does that mean you're from San Francisco too!?!?! HAHHA!!!

I'll check and see if I'v got some pics with pipes in them for ya. Mean while, just google "iraq urban city" ... I'm sure there will be something there.

...damn yank!

too late i have her rusted in a way that "i" think looks good (enough?). hmmm....!

san fran or whatever dude but when the women came pouring out onto sixth street from the university...had myself a great big bay window looking out of the bar...was 18...ahhhh....good times!!! (yeah, you didnt catch the 18 and drinkin part!!...)

well guys i promised an update...here it is....i hope its finished (the building). there's your damn puddle model!! LOL. not sure if i should make it bigger but i didnt want to make it look like it was "pouring out". as far as the pipe...i like it. i realized after all of this that i didnt put any "mounting bolts" on my main sign...but...oh well...this project is starting to get to me a little....maybe b4 i do the figs i will take a couple of days off to regroup. anyway, hope you like it...and if ya dont...let me know guys...doesnt mean im gonna change anything (lol) just means if it sucks...it sucks!

i purposely put the pipe on a slight angle...

thanks guys!

D...A....M....N  D...U...D....E !!!!!!!!

That base is DEAD on!!!! And you're a F^$*^)*&$*%$ BAD A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hear-by declare the base complete! ....

.... except.... (j/k)

camo ... you have done an exceptional job on this one. You've gotten everything down. I wouldn't really worry about the bolts unless you come back to it later and it just bugs you. Just a few little styrene rod slices and you'd be G-2-G. But then there's paint and blah blah blah, so I don't blame you.

The tiles, the puddle, the angle of the pipe (that sounds a little weird!?!), the staining of the columns at the bottom, the carpets .... Man, you nailed it all! Seriously. You couldn't have done a better job if you were sitting on an Iraqi street corner with the street as your backdrop!

KUDOS Sir! Kudos.

.... now as far as the base's .... Rrrr.... base. I think that if you're going to keep it at the same angle as the one that you've got going now, I think that's good. However, consider, like you were saying, about "sanding" the street ... think about doing something like a thin celluclay street all the way out to the opposite corner of the base. That way, you could spread out a figure or two and they're not all crammed into the first floor of the structure.

Am I making sense?

However ... BEFORE you do that. Seriously, take a breather, work on something else, or you can come down here and do my yard for me so that I can work on my stuff!!!! (I like "plan B" myself...)

.... my jeep could use a washin' too.....

Here's a quick "Paint" picture of what I was talking about. I'm pretty sure the wife put crack in my cheerios this morning....

.... dang I got artistic talent!

thanks model!! i appreciate it. yep, was already gonna do what your "talented, artistic (lol) pic showed pretty much so thanks. i noticed you put a "median" in there...got any good pics or a good explanation of what that should look like bud? also if ya got a good idea about the road (after the celluclay...never did one b4) i'd appreciate that as well. that carpet was kinda cool in that i went to some online persian rug website, saved the pic, imported the pic into word, copied and flipped the pic, then scaled down the size then printed, cut out, glued the two together and ta-da! was worried too about that sidewalk...thought at times i "over did it" so im gonna trust your statements about u liking it!!

anyway, again gentlemen, thank you for the help, the ideas, & the insults. . this isnt to humble it too much but i really dont think i could've gotten this far without you guys!! btw model, i'll wash your jeep if ya wash and wax my mustang! use some of that artistic talent you got!!

modelchasm wrote:

You couldn't have done a better job if you were sitting on an Iraqi street corner with the street as your backdrop!

hahaha...hey G.I. u looking for a good time....me love u long time....hahaha...that's all i pictured when u said that!! not that im "that way"...it was just funny!

Here's one that looks like it could be in my neighborhood

Here's (if you can see it on the bridge) the yellow white look I thought was cool, it's my understanding that that type of curb is indicative to Baghdad but I could be mistaken.

Stepdad's been in country, I know he's got a few shots but I'm not home, maybe I'll try and get my hands on some?

I'm sure model can hook you up sooner

i wish i could see that pic(s) alot bigger p.o. but thanks anyway. i'd appreciate you trying to get some from your dad! thanks.

these pics were taken by my buddy during the invasion...i never really payed much attention to the curbs but i see what you guys mean.

also wanted to show some other roads to best see what my options really are...

i like this one just because (as unfortunate as it is) the abrams is a.f.u...!

but at least between your pics and mine plus model's insight i think i know which direction to go!! thanks guys appreciate it!

i wish i could see that pic(s) alot bigger p.o. but thanks anyway.

yeah I know what you mean, that was just google search so I'm sorry I couldn't dig up anything nicer

A HMMWV?? No way! I thought you were going to put an Abrams out there??

just kidding!!!

No, camo, never! I would never say that you need a whole HMMWV out there .... there's not enough room and it would block the scene ....

.... but now that you mention it ..... ....

.... you could always "chop" a HMMWV in half and have the front end "driving" onto the scene and the backhalf on the other end of the street. That would also give you the chance to FULLY detail the interior!

... I know ... I'm a b@stard.

BTW ... check out my PB page if you do decide to take on a HMMWV, I've got pictures from my HMMWV build up there as well .... you know ... JUST in case! (hehe)