Lindbergs 1/16 Scale Concord Stagecoach Build Step by Step

Long Time No update, for any one following this thread, I apologize, life has gotten in the way of my modeling efforts, I am still trying to work thru a rough part of my life right now but hope to be back to finish this thread and finish this unique model.

Like I was saying in the last response, if you build this kit and go with red, paint it gloss red first, or use future over the flat, I didnt. I went flat, spray testors clear over the top and it wasnt completely glossy. now I have a few slivery decals. Not bad enough to strip and start over. I will leave it at that and continue.

I hope to be back with regular updates in about a month......Until then if any one has a kit like this they are working on then feel free to share your progress to keep the thread going and alive!

Regards Modelmaniac1967......

I have something to post, today I applied the decals to the main stage coach, now I have to wait a few days for them to dry then I will clear coat them again and then dull coat them.

Lufbery wrote:

modelmaniac1967 wrote: Just a little up date. Haven't worked on this kit for a while, I got very sick a while back and I am still trying to recover. Should have some real updates soon. Thanks for continuing to post your progress pictures, and I hope you're feeling 100% well soon! Regards,

Thank you, I am feeling a lot better, and will have more progress photos in the near future.

KirkTrekModeler, Im not sure yet where I will display it at yet. I know it would better if I built a base for it, but havent gotten that far yet.

PatlaborUnit1 wrote:

modelmaniac1967 wrote: If your not familiar with lindberg kits, they are awesome models, great subject matter I have GOT to go on record and disagree here. They are NOT awesome models...actually those are the kits that for me wind up getting ditched. Perfect case in point--thier Army Attack Cobra. even the rocket pods are face molded to be viewed from the outside, molded about 75% of the way around with a big pocket in there.  The interior is a complete joke, toys are better and you are given a decal to add to the stump that is supposed to be the TAT101 gun ! AT best I wil be able to salvage most of the fueselage and use it at the N209J prototype helicopter which it was clearly modeled after after I carve off the tailboom. David

Yes they do have a lot of faults with bad molding, and for the stage coach kit a lot of sink marks and they are always in a bad place to fill. I do agree with you, they do have some cool subject matter however.

modelmaniac1967 wrote:

Just a little up date. Haven't worked on this kit for a while, I got very sick a while back and I am still trying to recover. Should have some real updates soon.

Thanks for continuing to post your progress pictures, and I hope you're feeling 100% well soon!

Regards, 

modelmaniac1967 wrote:

http://www.lindberg-models.com/wallpapers/LindbergStagecoachScreen.jpg http://www.over-land.com/ccoachg.html http://www.westernstagecoaches.com/history.html http://www.liveryone.net/concord_stagecoach.shtml http://www.answers.com/topic/wy-jackson-tsquare-stagecoach-jpg http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.hansenwheel.com/testimonials.html&usg=AFQjCNFw_ZAgZUX6MhOzi9wD7cdvliMTkg http://www.newhampshire.com/historical-markers/concord-coach.aspx These are a few of the reference sites, most are either red brown, I actually have yet to see black. Thats the thing with this subject matter. Its hard to get good reference material based on modeling one, and Im with you, seems strange red, out side of the wells fargo bank stagecoach I thought they were all brown. But after seeing a lot of them red it will go better with the gold decals and yellowish wheels and running gear. I just didn't like the brown it look more rust than anything. Black is interesting now. May have to rethink the color again as black would cover most of everything...

One more to add to the list in historic Columbia California.  I rode this coach many many years ago and now, at 41 still remember that ten minute ride and being held up!  It is natural wood stained to a high gloss.

http://www.columbiacalifornia.com/anfisher.html

modelmaniac1967 wrote:

If your not familiar with lindberg kits, they are awesome models, great subject matter

I have GOT to go on record and disagree here. They are NOT awesome models...actually those are the kits that for me wind up getting ditched. Perfect case in point--thier Army Attack Cobra. even the rocket pods are face molded to be viewed from the outside, molded about 75% of the way around with a big pocket in there.  The interior is a complete joke, toys are better and you are given a decal to add to the stump that is supposed to be the TAT101 gun ! AT best I wil be able to salvage most of the fueselage and use it at the N209J prototype helicopter which it was clearly modeled after after I carve off the tailboom.

David

Got some more work done on the stage coach as the figures are drying I wanted to see how the roll up curtains would look like weathered with some varying degrees of airbrushing and dry brushing and this is what I came up with. I was about to airbrush the horses when I noticed that I had more work to do on the horses, where the halves meet in the mouth area alot of the teeth detail was lost so I will have to do more work on them before I start painting them. More updates to come in the near future.

Here is what I was gonna post the other night the seats are ready and most of the body of the stagecoach, I was thinking of weathering the seats and the stagecoach because in the old west Im sure they didnt look new for very long....

You oasked a while back about souces for Vallejo paints in the states. Here are a couple:

The Hobby Bunker

Military Miniatures Warehouse

Your skin tones look very pale, but that could be the photos. I use Vallejo paints starting with beige red as a base caucasian skin color. To this I add dark fleshtone either to arker the skin, as for an Indian or well tanned European. More darkfleshtone is added to the mix for shadows. Depending on what Have for my base color, I'll either go with straight beige red or beige red mixed with pale flesh or sunny skintone for the first highlight and add more pale flesh for the second highlight and finally, well diluted pale flesh for the highest light. I use palpe flesh for the whites of the eyes, In this scale, you'll need to use either brown, blue or green for the iris. The irsi should be 1/2 to 2/3 of the eye socket and be about 1/3 covered by the upper eyelid.

Very basic base coat for driver figure, only base color no highlights or shadows yet. Havent finish the face yet either.

Thank you for the info jigsawman, that is probably the way I am gonna go with the fig painting, especially for the skin tones, i have done such an exstensive search and it all comes down to personal preference, i have decided that the hardest part of this kit to finish for me will be the horses and the figs, so that is what I am gonna concentrate on first to get out of the way. Figure base coated with auto primer and then a coat of flat white to start the painting process.

modelmaniac1967 wrote:

I have done a lot of research on skin tones and painting figures, a lot of them reference vallejo paints and paints that are very hard to get in the states, that makes it frustrating when you can not use the same paints as the reference material. Does anyone have a good site or know of a good reference materail that uses model master paints as the paint of choice to paint figures? Any help in this area would be greatly appreciated. I figure if I can not paint the figures or the horses to look natural and not ruin the look of the stage coach I can always finish the stage coach by itself and put that in a diorama....

Just a thought here, but I do not use reference materials for getting any flesh tones that I plan.  I generally can mix up anything using any sort of brown, red, flesh tone, light tans, etc.  What I think you might try is to take a look at pictures of someone who might actually be from the area that your subject material is from.  For instance, if you know your subject matter was in Northern Germany at the time, go seek images of people and places from there now.  Look at how their skins tones look and adjust your color mixing as needed.  That's kind of what I do.

Look at the skins tones and explanation I gave for the face here:

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JigSawMan

Long time no post, got side tracked by other things at work and other model projects, I am determined to get this project done however, the only thing that I have done to the kit is reworked the horses a little bit, the tails do not line up when glued together. Other than that no new photos to show, hopefully soon.

HUH! Who woulda thought?!

After seeing all those links and the proper color for them, I'd say stick with the red! They look great like that all built up! Plus, it's accurate--can't go wrong with "accurate"!

Gotta think though that that color woulda really stirred up the Indians out there in the high grass?!

http://www.lindberg-models.com/wallpapers/LindbergStagecoachScreen.jpg

http://www.over-land.com/ccoachg.html

http://www.westernstagecoaches.com/history.html

http://www.liveryone.net/concord_stagecoach.shtml

http://www.answers.com/topic/wy-jackson-tsquare-stagecoach-jpg

http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.hansenwheel.com/testimonials.html&usg=AFQjCNFw_ZAgZUX6MhOzi9wD7cdvliMTkg

http://www.newhampshire.com/historical-markers/concord-coach.aspx

These are a few of the reference sites, most are either red brown, I actually have yet to see black. Thats the thing with this subject matter. Its hard to get good reference material based on modeling one, and Im with you, seems strange red, out side of the wells fargo bank stagecoach I thought they were all brown. But after seeing a lot of them red it will go better with the gold decals and yellowish wheels and running gear. I just didn't like the brown it look more rust than anything. Black is interesting now. May have to rethink the color again as black would cover most of everything...

Thank you, I will give that a try. Since figures kinda make me shy away from them. I love figures and especially the whole garage kit thing but never tried them for fear of trashing them. That figure looks awesome. Thank you again.