Junk Build 4 A Walker WIP

I find it easier this way

Reasons 1-4 I can easily identify with. Reason 5, absolutely!!!!! 

sumpter250 wrote:

.....why put the dry transfers on clear decal film, instead of applying directly to the model?

Hiya Sumpter

Couple off reasons,

1 This is only 4 inches high, and trying to get the transfer film into tight corners without cutting the sheet is near impossible.

2 I hate cutting these sheets as they tend to distort when cut making storage more difficult.

3 Rubbing the DPT onto most areas without either damaging the area (such as the hanging plate armour) or items around it (arms etc) would be impossible.

4 Most of these sheets are 15-20 years old and date back to when I was a freelance modelmaker, which I stopped doing in 1992, and therefore don`t always transfer as well as they should.

5 I find it easier this way

Cheers

 Gary

Looks much better now, good job

 

That is a far better color to start with!, and the camo bits look much better! Just curious.....why put the dry transfers on clear decal film, instead of applying directly to the model?

I have used that method, in model railroading, to make up a road name by using dry tranfer letters on clear decal film, because it was easier to align the letters on a flat surface, with no "structures" in the way. It looks like most all of your markings were in "clear" areas, and you could have eliminated the "decal" step.

Yes, I like this color combination much better than the first! Nicely done! WalkyMech Mark III it is! 

Hoyhoy`Al,
Sorry for the delay but I`ve had another brief stay in the place where they won`t let you paint in bed. Nothing serious, just a throat looksee. Anywide I came home and the first thing I did was drop the model, slapped forehead, stepped back and trod on it. Taught meeself a few new combinations of swear words, and picked up the pieces. Another age fart, a senior movement.
Anywhats wern`t to bad, most of the pieces were still usable and retired to the Hogcupboard. Looking at the bitz I decided it was redo-able but decided to change a few things. For one the three funnels [smoke grenades] from the Queen Mary on the back, they were deffinately going and the camo`, that wasn`t going right.
So a cup of coffee, a ciggy, and a quick rub down with the sporting life later I was off.  I took off all the upper body paint and decals with wire wool and a scraping knife, moved a few details about, added a few more and redid the grenade launchers. Rebuilt where necessary and repaint, not digital but I think better. The trouble with the digital I did was that to me it didn`t hide or breakup the shape like it should but seemed to emphasize it. Markings are some old dry print transfer I had knocking about, rubbed onto some clear decal fim and applied. Assorted yellow stripes are microscale (I think). So here you are. WalkyMek mark III.







All the usual terms apply and enjoy,
Cheers
G

Well Sumpter, best part about armor, you can cover it with dirt!!! lol.  Batteries are a pain. My camera sucks thru em like water.  I love it when the camera is gasping its last breath and you're able to squeeze out just one more pic.  Have with your airport run.  I know DIA can get crazy past 6.

I'm an armor guy who used to build planes, but always got big sticky glue covered thumb prints on the cockpit canopy.

.....and, um, now gets big sticky glue covered thumb prints on windshields, and turrets? :) :)    Sorry,TacoBuff, I just couldn't resist.   I just got done removing the "1.44 Megabits of masking tape" from my junkbuild's digital camo paint job.....and the digital camera, just completed discharging its batteries. Timing is everything!  I have a "Zero dark thirty" run to the airport so my youngest, can catch her flight home, and when I get back from that I can put the batteries on charge, and maybe, by the end of the day I can shoot some pic's, and post em in my junkbuild thread. I think the paint scheme turned out well.

I thought of raised panels, or field applied panels when i saw the decals.  I like the dark green camo overall better.  I think that would look better stompin around the jungle than the digital camo would (though that did turn out quite nice IMO). 

I hadn't seen your other work wingz.  I'm very impressed.  I'm an armor guy who used to build planes, but always got big sticky glue covered thumb prints on the cockpit canopy.  A good airplane guy such as yourself always blows me away! 

it`s nice to know that people are able to live up to the names they give themselves.

......but for Gollum, the "one ring" might not have been destroyed. 

Sorry Smeagol,

I didn`t realise your ignorance, but it does say decal not masking tape. I was going to explain what the RLM reference was for your edification and future reference but I see others have done that for me. As to your other comments

"Yea, you see, that doesnt explain bum f*** nothing to me.  I have no idea what the heck a RLM 02 is.  Ultimatly, it looks really ugly how thick those are "

it`s nice to know that people are able to live upto the names they give themselves. All I can suggest is if you don`t like don`t look.

 Cheers

Gary

sumpter250 wrote:

I have no idea what the heck a RLM 02 is. Reichs Luftfahrt Ministerium......ist nicht sprechen zie deutch...but it would be the ministry that determined paint colors for the third reichs military equipment. the numbers designate specific color formulations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RLM_paint_designations  should take you to the page that lists the different colors. Yeah, it's something you see all the time in the military modeler's world, where accuracy includes the right shade of color, in the right places. It's like counting "rivets", where the rivets are "color". Where I am primarily a model railroader, I might use terms like "coach green", or "railbox yellow", or "boxcar red", which in that hobby, are "fixed" colors.

If thats the case our friend here really needs to learn how to thin his paint 

Firstly I`m mainly a plane bod building  in a diorama format with figures and such, and these junk builds are ideally a no expense involved therapy session for when I get bogged down in a serious build.

I completely identify with the "no expense involved therapy session". That's why I do the Sci Fi kitbashes, and my latest junkbuild. No plans, no measurements, no preconceived "thing" to have to "reproduce" in miniature. Just pure imagination, and creativity. The "109" dio, is very nicely done!

Pete 

I have no idea what the heck a RLM 02 is.

Reichs Luftfahrt Ministerium......ist nicht sprechen zie deutch...but it would be the ministry that determined paint colors for the third reichs military equipment. the numbers designate specific color formulations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RLM_paint_designations  should take you to the page that lists the different colors. Yeah, it's something you see all the time in the military modeler's world, where accuracy includes the right shade of color, in the right places. It's like counting "rivets", where the rivets are "color". Where I am primarily a model railroader, I might use terms like "coach green", or "railbox yellow", or "boxcar red", which in that hobby, are "fixed" colors.

wingzandthingz wrote:

"I sprayed the model in an overall coat of RLM 02 and added the decals. (RLM`s 79-81-82)"

Yea, you see, that doesnt explain bum f*** nothing to me.  I have no idea what the heck a RLM 02 is.  Ultimatly, it looks really ugly how thick those are 

Hi There Sumpter,

Yeah I know what you mean about the decal film being thicker with a coat of paint, but I went this way for two reasons. Firstly I`m mainly a plane bod building  in a diorama format with figures and such, and these junk builds are ideally a no expense involved therapy session for when I get bogged down in a serious build.  At the moment I`m building two dio`s such as these

see 109 Reich defenders in the group build section

 

see 109X in the aircraft section

Plus others in the style on the previous page

Both on hold for various reasons. I`m also building a solid 1:48 scale of the Horten 10 out of balsa and awaiting better weather so as to work outside because of the mess this model creates.

Secondly as I said these junk builds are just that, nothing serious, just keeping my hand in. Originally I had intended to mask these but in tape precut into shapes and paint much in the manner your using. But the small compound curves on this model made it awkward to mask and the tape kept lifting so decals were an easy way out. The decal I`ve used is somthing I`ve had for years. It is very thin and is printed in 3inch white numbers over a continual sheet of film and is intended for flying aero models and comes in handy. The basic body of the `mech is a inhaler and seems to be made of a nylon type plastic that is naturally greasy and paints rubs of if your not careful and has started to shed the decalling even thou` I used a gloss coat and the Micro solutions.

Hope both your cold and domestic problems are resolved soon.

Cheers Gary

I'm not familiar with the decal manufacturer, and you didn't mention whether or not you used setting solution, but........decals, especially clear film sprayed with color over, are going to appear thicker than just a stock decal, or a coat of paint. I've used that technique for "applying" color in areas that would have been a real pain to mask, and even with setting solution the "decalled" areas can be detected. This is the primary reason I chose to start with a base coat, mask, apply the next color, mask....etc., and at the end, remove all the bits of masking. Unfortunately, my progress has been stopped "cold", by the upstairs neighbor abandoning his place, and turning off the power and gas.........the pipes didn't freeze................much! Only about fifteen pipe/fitting ruptures in both the cold, and hot, water lines. wouldn't have been a problem...........except water just happens to obey the laws of gravity, and the leaks were above me. Put a wet blanket on my creative enthusiasm (pun intended), It'll be a few days more before I can get back to model projects. Anywhatever, I like the dark base color.

"I sprayed the model in an overall coat of RLM 02 and added the decals. (RLM`s 79-81-82)"

Read the post, the answer was not clear.

smeagol the vile wrote:

are those multicolored squares masking tape?

If you read the post the answers in there.

are those multicolored squares masking tape?  If not... you REALLY need to think your paint more, they are way to thick.

Hoyhoy`Al
Trouble was, I thought, that with all the odd bitz of decals I had used it was becoming a Joseph. A mech of many colours. I had already sprayed up some decal film as in my last post, so after a quick rub over with 600 wet n dry, I sprayed the model in an overall coat of RLM 02 and added the decals. (RLM`s 79-81-82)









This I think looks better and more of a digital feel. Before I decal`d I gave it a blowover in gloss hence the shiny bits. I want to try out an idea of markings etc. Mind you I`m sick of decaling, I counted over 150 bitz of the tan alone before I gave up counting.
Oh well  onwards and outwards,
Com`s & Crit`s welcomed,
Cheers 
G

 When I got off the 'puter, I made friends with a bottle of The Glenlivet, added several more layers of clothing, and crashed in the recliner!

Spent the better part of today, with new layers, and got most of the drawings done for the secondary hull of USS Kodiak NCC 6000. In case anyone's wondering, it's been a touch chilly here lately. With any luck, I'll be at the masking tape thing again tomorrow, I'd kind of like to see how this camo turns out.....both mine and yours.

Hi Sumpter,

When I started this the photo was just a jump off point. I was more interested in the idea of blocks of colour rather than the coloured `bands` usually seen on camouflaged objects. I may still scrap this finish and go off in another direction, but I think I will experiment a little more to see where it leads.

Hope your cold improves

Cheers

Gary

I printed out the photo of the fighter in digital camo, and I'm using that as a guide. It's far subtler than what you've got going on here.

Masked of some and gave it a blow over in dark green, took of the tape and I wasn`t impressed. In fact it looked crap!!!.What was I thinking of.

maybe you were thinking of what the photo looked like.

Had to take a break from building, I seem to have caught a "leaky beak", and it got to three tissues for each piece of masking tape applied. Another day or two on the antihistamines, and I should be good to go.

hOYHOY`AL

An aside- My wife stuck her head into the HogCupboard today,while I was making a coffee, just to have a peek at what I`ve been doing. She gave a snort of laughter and said "What is it? a self portrait?". Suddenly I realised what she meant. There it was, a figure whose belly stuck out much further than it should way way in front of the head (pilots), oversized shoes, shufflin` along on a stick, wearing a coat of many colours just like my favourite lucky painting shirt. So that's where the inspiration comes from. Is my subconscious that weird?. Obviously me and future robot designers think alike. Why keep on growing up where the (h)air gets thin when you can grow out instead! 
Anyway onwards (and outwards)
Masked of some and gave it a blow over in dark green, took of the tape and I wasn`t impressed. In fact it looked crap!!!.What was I thinking of.




Thats when I went for the coffee.And another coffee and a think. I thought perhaps if I paint on some smaller squares it might get that digital look. So 2 hours later, totally missed off with painting loads of tiny rectangles in tan with a 00000 brush I had had enough. Another coffee and a smoke (given up on the peanuts), I remembered I had some scraps of decal in Luftwaffy colours left over from canopy framing sessions. Dug those out and chopped into small bits. Much quicker, not digital but a definite improvement. Certainly breaks up the outline.







Now looking a bit like pixalated German camo` or maybe something WW1`ish. Anyway have sprayed some more decal sheet and will continue tommorrow. I`m thinking of doing the `good` leg in a different pattern like a replacement part or something.

All Crits & Comms welcome
Cheers 
G

PS Obviously my lucking painting shirt failed today.

This si a great idea.  I liked it at first but the limp and cane are awesome.  Keep this stuff coming. 

Hoyhoy`al

Answers:
 philp-"  Still trying to figure out how it plays croquet."   It don`t.

Daryl J. "Now if this build has you a bit bored, what happens when you're all warmed up and focussed?"     Things like these

Well I`ve started painting, lightest colour first,





Unfortunately I`ve run out of Tamiya acrylics and have had to do this in enamels. Nothing wrong with enamels, but it means coating with somthing when I start washing in oils to avoid colour merge and a longer drying time. Anyways a quick overall coat in RLM 79 sand with a mini mask of RLM 71 Dunkle Grun. The mini masks are at the bottom of the picture. Bits of 10thou card cut to give a digital effect at the edge. I`ve used this technique before on larger models like ships and the Polar Lights Enterprises, You spray around the edges of the pattern and fill in the middle, but on this its a little small and oversprays a problem. Still I`ll give it over night to dry and do the darker green tommorrow and will see how it looks. Aiming for the impression of spraycans and a cardboard masking edge. But all in all very pleased with the build now its all one colour instead of the hodgepodge of bits it was yestersday.









The grey in the cockpit contrasts nicely with the camo` and am very happy with the way the hands have turned out.
Oh well more as it happens. All Crits & Comm`s etc
Cheers 
G

A few years ago, I broke an ankle, while on a camping trip in Arizona. For about twentyfour hours, I had to hobble around on one good foot, and a stick. Move the stick, lean on it and "jump". I got around, but it wasn't flattering.

I didn't count the number of little bits of masking tape I used in the first go round, but rough estimate is about 240 bits. As soon as the paint is dry, I can do another 200+, paint, and then remove all the bits.  "Bit of a nightmare", fairly accurately describes the process. I do know, now, why I never tried this scheme before.

"and wrapping some fine wire arround the outside in a tight spiral to suggest reinforcement.", This has been used in model railroading to make the flexible air, and steam hoses. It's a good effect.

 

Hi Again Sumpter,

I see you took me at my word and thank you. I think some of your points have been dealt with in the latest photo batch of last nights work, but heres some off my reasoning behind work so far.

The Cane

I actually use a walking stick myself due to a damaged ankle and agree that the posture here isn`t perfect. The main problem is that the `hips` on the model are nowhere near the shoulders and the normal up and down line of support won`t work in this situation. I now have both `hands` gripping the crutch  trying to suggest that the good leg takes a step and the arms support the body as the damaged leg as lifted and moved forward. On the dio` I intend to show the left leg leaving a dragged trail mark in the ground and perhaps this visual aid maybe a discriptive help, along with wires and ammo belt scraps dragging along from the gun trailing in the direction of travel.

Hydraulics

I intend to add these after the bulk of painting and masking is done, These tend to be a weak link even in real life, and in battle would certanly be easily damaged. I had thought of using some fine flexible tubing with a fusewire or solder core to hold the shape, and wrapping some fine wire arround the outside in a tight spiral to suggest reinforcement. Perhaps a search on the internet for mechcanical diggers etc might reveal some insights.

Hands

These are just tubes over  florists wire fingers and I`ve now added some linkage to the back of the hands and some acrylic over the joints and knuckles to give a bit of detail, wether I`m happy with this after painting is yet yo be seen. The main design idea behind the hands is that I didn`t want the linkage to be exposed to the elements, mud etc so the idea is some form of rubber glove over the whole works with the internals showing through the outer skin in relief, and the idea of representing tears in the skin ala Terminator is also an idea I`m thinking of including, but I don`t want to `humanise` the design to much. The idea of walking mechanical wounded is new enough to me as it is.

Best of luck with the digital camo`, I`ve heard it can be a bit of a nightmare and thanks again for the input.

Cheers Gary