AMT Space 1999 Eagle finished

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...What kind of an idiot would slam someone who simply delivers relevant information? Are you upset that your ego wasn't stroked or something?

(chuckle...)

Well, rules infraction or not, I'd love to see a 22" Eagle in plastic. Bring it on!

mwmodelworks

I remember seeing this great build back in the Fall 2012 FSM online gallery. Having built a couple of Eagles myself, I know what an absoulte DOG that old AMT/Airfix/MPC Eagle kit is to work with. So anytime someone can do something as impressive as this it should be applauded repeatedly!

Yes, the AMT kit surely has its problems--mostly the engine area. It's so simplified as to be off-putting, but it can be detailed with a fair amount of effort. Hopefully a newer kit will address this?

I remember seeing this great build back in the Fall 2012 FSM online gallery. Having built a couple of Eagles myself, I know what an absoulte DOG that old AMT/Airfix/MPC Eagle kit is to work with. So anytime someone can do something as impressive as this it should be applauded repeatedly!

Mach 1 and Stage Left, Steve--thanks, guys, for the nice compliments. I was a little surprised to see this old thread get resurrected, as this ship was finished quite a while ago., I've still got a second AMT one in the stash, and want to finish it in all-white one day--but I"m bummed as to how I would make that engine cage again without the bendable styrene that made that such an easy mod. They discontinued that product, the last I heard.

I also got two box sets of Space 1999 and relived the first two years--still some pretty good plots and good story writing, but the special effects were pretty primitive and the monsters were frankly ridiculous for the most part, And oh that fashion.....yikes!

I don't know how I missed this, but Great work!

I might have to steal your idea for the landing gear when I get around to making mine!

Wow Karl- another well-done piece from your workbench. Thanks for another toot on mods and corrections. I'm yet another of the masses who had this kit as a kid; I love the 'Eagle.'

I saw a few episodes of the show when it was airing but never became a huge fan. Maybe I'll have to check it out again on DVD after I get through my nostalgia phase with 'Emergency'

Dave

"Seriously, send me one of those new Eagles when it comes out for the advertisement here, and we'll call it even"

Heh! LOL!  You're right! You ARE good at sarcasm too!  :-D

Small Art Works

You obviously don't understand sarcasm when you read it do you?

I both appreciate and utilize sarcasm myself.....I also comment on other peoples' posts when they put in good work.

Seriously, send me one of those new Eagles when it comes out for the advertisement here, and we'll call it even

You obviously don't understand sarcasm when you read it do you?

Small Art Works

Thank you for visiting my site.

Real class.....

Thank you for visiting my site.

Small Art Works

Then why did you reply and include my entire message again, pictures and all, and reiterate it? Too bad you took my post as the opposite of what is meant by it. I'm not "advertizing" it, I'm just informing people of what was announced at Wonderfest so they can get also get the kit that you are building without having to pay collectors' prices. I'm not an employee of R@ or anything and I am not advertizing for them. I just thought people would like to know of the upcoming re-release, and posting it on a forum with a build of the very kit should be considered informative. What kind of an idiot would slam someone who simply delivers relevant information? Are you upset that your ego wasn't stroked or something?

You also ventured to add a link to your website, which explicitly states on the page which you linked to: "After viewing the models in the gallery below, you can see more on the EIMB "Model Building and Finishing Services" page, and throughout the Small Art Works web site.  The examples you see here represent the kind of work you can expect if you have  a model custom built especially for you, here at Small Art Works!" --so you are once again advertising services which will profit you?....by using MY post? Would it be too much to ask you to send me a small commission on your future work? Seriously, I'll "forget the whole thing" buddy! 

Lastly--it's simply common courtesy on this forum to comment or at least acknowledge a modeler's work if you post on their posts. I did a lot of work correcting and modifying this model, and have left the posts and photos here as a guide and inspiration to other modelers. If it makes me "egotistical": to at least expect a nod to the contribution and time that I've made here and to the model that I have produced----especially when you're opportunistically using my post here to advertise your products and services--, then you go right ahead and brand me that. James. I don't have a problem with that.

Listen, man--you do nice work on your models on your site. And it's nice to know that the Eagle is going to be produced again. I'm sure that will make a lot of people happy, me included--especially if it's a more detailed and accurate version than the AMT version. But it would have been nice to at least get a nod to the work I did here after you posted your work and services in my thread without so much as a word of recognition of my work.Something tells me you'd feel the same way were the situation reversed, James. The least you could do would be to stop denying that.

Hi Jim,

Would you mind creating your own thread for this news?

Thanks!

Then why did you reply and include my entire message again, pictures and all, and reiterate it? Too bad you took my post as the opposite of what is meant by it. I'm not "advertizing" it, I'm just informing people of what was announced at Wonderfest so they can get also get the kit that you are building without having to pay collectors' prices. I'm not an employee of R@ or anything and I am not advertizing for them. I just thought people would like to know of the upcoming re-release, and posting it on a forum with a build of the very kit should be considered informative. What kind of an idiot would slam someone who simply delivers relevant information? Are you upset that your ego wasn't stroked or something?

Small Art Works

FYI everyone, Round 2 will be re-issuing the Space 199 kits late 2013.

Also, IF and I repeat IF the sales of the other space 1999 kits are sufficient, Round 2 might consider doing a 22" Eagle kit in injection styrene that is accurately based on the hero 44" Eagle. There might be a few slight cheats to make it "kitable" but they would keep all of the proportions and major details as close to 100% accurate as metal tooling will allow. Keep in mind, this is not set in stone. The tooling would cost a bundle, and the license needs to pay for itself, SO, .....and I want to stress that nothing is guaranteed.... only if you guys do your part in helping the re-pops sell well first would they CONSIDER doing the 22" model. So, if you want this to happen we must all do our part to re-spark interest in the old kits, even that Alien one. As for the Hawk, well, it sounds like Airfix might have the tool for that one. Round 2 said they will be looking into that to see what the possibilities might be.

For more pix of Eagle and other buildups unrelated to Round 2,  you can look here:

http://www.smallartworks.ca/Gallery/Gallery.html

Scroll down the page a bit and look for the Eagles etc.... then click on the pic for more details.

I'd love to get my hands on a better kit.

  Never got into the 1999 series, Buck Rogers or Battlestar Galactica (couldn't help it, I kept seeing "Ben Cartwright").

 I preferred the SF movies of the 50's and 60's and Star Trek .

Forbidden Planet........  BEYOND AWESOME.

ET, Close Encounters and the first three go-rounds of Star Wars are my favorites.

This project turned out really good Karl.

Getting sta -- ticky...... b--re...- aking up......... will tu**ne in on m#y next orbit........  space out........

FYI everyone, Round 2 will be re-issuing the Space 199 kits late 2013.

Also, IF and I repeat IF the sales of the other space 1999 kits are sufficient, Round 2 might consider doing a 22" Eagle kit in injection styrene that is accurately based on the hero 44" Eagle. There might be a few slight cheats to make it "kitable" but they would keep all of the proportions and major details as close to 100% accurate as metal tooling will allow. Keep in mind, this is not set in stone. The tooling would cost a bundle, and the license needs to pay for itself, SO, .....and I want to stress that nothing is guaranteed.... only if you guys do your part in helping the re-pops sell well first would they CONSIDER doing the 22" model. So, if you want this to happen we must all do our part to re-spark interest in the old kits, even that Alien one. As for the Hawk, well, it sounds like Airfix might have the tool for that one. Round 2 said they will be looking into that to see what the possibilities might be.

For more pix of Eagle and other buildups unrelated to Round 2,  you can look here:

http://www.smallartworks.ca/Gallery/Gallery.html

Scroll down the page a bit and look for the Eagles etc.... then click on the pic for more details.

 nice!!! now, when you come over to the wings...(saw earlier post)

 Hasigawa has a 1/32 P-51D with.....da, da , da(drum roll)...  "MAN-O-WAR" nose art(Shameless..I know)..a small bit of re-scribeing, and it's a beautifull plane. Lookin forward to see whatever you do there!!

Glad you liked it Bill!

Thanks for taking the time to comment!

Thank you for the compliments, Brad!!!

Russianfist--I got the decals from eBay. They're actually NOT "decals"--they're "stickers" that you have to cut out yourself--which can be a PITA, to be honest, but they're the only game in town as far as I could tell. They go on a bit thick, but I think they look ok, don't you? Otherwise, you'd have to print your own. 

There IS a guy who sells actual decals that he prints out--the link is in this thread, I think? But when I went to his website, it said he was not acceptingorders until he had printed out and filled all his back orders--that sounded like trouble to me, so I went with the stickers.

Thanks for looking in and your comments! 

I was looking at my eagle yesterday.

I was setting up to rebuild the forward and aft sections of the passenger module as well as the engine assembly plumbing.

However I think I will follow doogs steps insted and go more OTB with it.

Doog, what did you think of the decals that you ordered for you eagle?

Are they any good and where did you find them?

Great work Karl! The finish is truly "doog-worthy" and makes this aged kit stand out. I like your display case too...IMO the 'glass and mirror' design-style aligns itself with futuristic motifs and therefore adds to the presentation.

Cheers

the doog wrote:

The mirror finish lets you see the underside.

Uh oh! Don't let von Hammer see this

Stern0 wrote:

Great weathering and paint Doog...fantastic build!!!!

And you too, Tony!!!! 

I appreciate your comments!

Here;s the final display case--I cut out the logos from the box and sticky-taped them to the insides. The mirror finish lets you see the underside.

Great weathering and paint Doog...fantastic build!!!!

the doog wrote:

And miss "As The World Turns"?!  Surely you jest?!  LOL! Thanks, Chris! I appreciate the thumbs ups!

Hmmm- good point! haha

No problem, a very nice build indeed

Mike H. wrote:

Not a project I'd ever tackle (or seen/know of) but the workmanship is great.  Well done build Doog.

psstoff995 wrote:

Wouldn’t have looked nicer if it was on the set doog- of course got great comments!! hahaha now if you really wanna go off the wall- watch Cowboy Bebop lol

And miss "As The World Turns"?! 

Surely you jest?!  LOL!

Thanks, Chris! I appreciate the thumbs ups!

So this is what you've been up to all weekend! Nice finish to a very cool kit, looks well worn, very good paint burn off/metallic look on the engines

the doog wrote:

The little colored lines on top of the rail frame are my own interpretation of what seems to be a completely inconsistent pattern of color-

I can juuuust make out the pilots- good call sticking them in there just the right amount of fine detail to really nail this build.

Very very cool, nicely executed.

How big is the finished model, I had a toy one as a kid, it was about 3 feet long.

Thanks, sicerely, guys!

Eric,--thanks, man! I'm not sure what is on the desk next--maybe a Leopard? Maybe in 1/72? OH--I mean a TANK, lol!

Thanks too, terry, TD, and Phil! I do appreciate the comments and the 's!!

I'll get around to building the transport (white) version of this someday, now that I've got a second one in the stash...not sure when but....I still have some of that "super" styrene around, thankfully! 

Very cool Karl, great to see it finished.

Having built this as a kid (30-something years ago) I can really appreciate the extra work you put into this one to bring it up to where it is.

I love the "aged" look you have given it and all the little bits of colour - it really brings it to life.

Very nice...

Well Karl, welcome to the family, she looks great. I was waiting to see her with the stripes and all assembled up. Congratulations on a great looking EAGLE.

All the best,

Terry.

That turned out really well.

I like all the color and weathering, nothing more boring to look as than a factory fresh paint job.

Something like that would probably take me a year to do. lol

What's next on the agenda?

Eric... 

Hi Guys!

Well, thank you to all who have folloewed this thread and cared enough to comment! Your encouragement and support in this "oddball build" for me was most appreciated! 

Well, I've got an Eagle in my collection! As I said, I was going for a well-used ship, one that would have seen its share of risky forays onto harsh, alien landscapes, where screaming winds whipped up the dust and beat up the finish. Here it is, all finished up!

A few words about the weathering processes. I started out by using that sponge to add a varying mix of white, gray, and tan. I dabbled a barely-noticeable random pattern all over the model, and then used some cut-outs from index cards to add some geometric designs in gray. 

The seams were all pin-washed with black/gray, and then a soft brush was used to add some light chips and drybrushing. Here's some pics!

Here you can see some of the sticker decals--they are rather thick, but can look ok with some flat coat. You can also see the weathering on the rescue pod...

The underside:

The little colored lines on top of the rail frame are my own interpretation of what seems to be a completely inconsistent pattern of color--nearly every reference photo I had of different Eagles seemed to have something different. I wanted an eye-catching, colorful look, so I went all out. THe stripes are a combo of painting and decals cut from old kits.

The rear...the engines were painted in Tamiya Flat Aluminum, and the Dark Copper was airbrushed over the ends, and then Black over that.The lines were painted on fr the most part. The orangey rectangles are from the stickers sheet.

Everything may not be 100% accurate, but I read on a site some words from an actual technician who helped build and maintain the real Eagle models, and he said that the set Eagles were always being refurbished, taken apart and put back together, and that sometimes the lahding pods would wind up swapped, and different parts would be different from time to time, so I figured that in all honesty, the markingsI used may be a liittle "colorful", but I think it looks eye-catching! ???

Well, that's it! I hope you like my Eagle, and any questions can be left here and I'll try to answer them as soon as I can!

Comments always welcomed, guys! Thanks for making my brief soiree here a fun little diversion!

This may be a little late in the game for reference but as i was looking for episodes of space 1999 I came across this site and it's loaded with stuff!

http://www.space1999.net/catacombs/main/models/eagle/w2memenu.html

Now I feel inspired to finish my AMT Eagle.

It's not as fancy as the resin and white metal kit (can't remember the maker) but it will do for now.

Very cool! Like the medical colors- nice job with the masking!!! And hey, if it got through the foil in a few places it makes it that much more real, even in the future of 1999 there was still some leakage on the war time medical transport paint jobs

The weathering's looking good, I can't wait to see all the cross beams painted up and mounted!

Good job there my friend .Dont bad,dont bad . I am the guy from the eagle transporter forum .Try to make your childhood dreams true. I make the same try but after and after of modelling i want to make my eagle better and better. Good luck my friend.

Regards from Greece...

modelmaniac1967 wrote:

Karl,   How were you lucky enough to score this kit, I to grew up watching this show and always loved this ship, if you say you scored it on ebay then ill have to wait a while as they always go up to 50.00 or more. Maybe if i start going to our local swapmeet maybe. Anyway you are doing an awesome job on it as always. Darren

Darren I got this kit off ebay, and the thing was, there were four other AMT ones available, and being bid on. I've rarely seen that many on the site at once, but that's probably how I got it relatively cheap! 

Darren, if you could, would you "edit" your message to me and delete the links to the redundant photos like I've done i my "Quote" of your message?? It makes it a lot harder for dial-up users to load this page up when the number of photos is unnecessarily doubled---they'll thank you for it!!! Just delete the links that look like [link/PHotobucket blahblhablha[link] and they'll be removed!

Eric-thanks for that cool link! Lots of cool photos there!

Looking Good.

I found a site of intrest last night, don't know if you've seen it ot not.

Restoring the 44" Eagle 1 FX Model. 

Eric... 

the doog wrote:

Hi, uh.....strangers..? Well, after reading some of the responses to the thread "Why is the Armor forum the best forum?" that ran over there a few days ago (Claim is sole responsibility of the author!--not ME!) I'm a little skeered to post over here in this "Wild West" forum, but I hope you'll enjoy this real departure for me. I'm going to build the AMT Eagle transporter. I grew up with the show, and watched it every weekend. I wanted to be Alan Carter, had a huge crush on Sandra Benes, and hated Paul (because he had a fling with Sandra! LOL!. I actually owned one of those huge, 3-foot-long Mattel Eagle play ships--I only wish I still had it now! Anyway, here is the kit: : And here is the kit's contents: In literally 45 minutes, you can put together the main parts.... Some nasty seams to clean up... I decided to do a little detailing, so I cut out the windows, and built a little rudimentary cockpit so that you'll be able to see the pilots inside, uh, I mean, Alan Carter... I cut out all four, so that they would all have the same depth, and blocked out the bottom ones.The "pilots" are 1/87 scale German soldiers modified with Squadron putty. After I paint the inside, I'll put it together... That's where I am so far....signing off for now....questions, corrections, and comments welcomed. If anyone has built one of these and has some good detail tips, please leave a note to me here! Karl the doog

Karl, 

 How were you lucky enough to score this kit, I to grew up watching this show and always loved this ship, if you say you scored it on ebay then ill have to wait a while as they always go up to 50.00 or more. Maybe if i start going to our local swapmeet maybe. Anyway you are doing an awesome job on it as always.

Darren

Nice to see that you went for the rescue there Karl, it will really pay off in the end because those red stripes will break up the white. Looks great, keep up the good work.

Terry.

Hi Guys!

Thanks for continuing to follow this thread! I've been a bit busy, but I finally have something to show now.

I measured up and pencilled in lines delineating the red lines on the rescue pod; for anyone interested, the lines are demarked, in millimetres, at the following intervals from left to right: 

• 12
• 23
• 35
• 46
• 57
• 69
• 81
• 92

Ok, so not exactly mathematically precise, but it worked. It looks pretty even, no? I used both drafting tape and bare metal foil to mask it all up. A good night's work here, if you know anything about BMF!

Sprayed it up with Tamiya Flat Red...

In the next picture, you can see the results, after which I took an emery board and scuffed up the red sections a bit. I'm going for the look of an Eagle that may have been into an "LZ" somewhere where some hostile atmoshperic conditions may have existed, scuffing the finish from swirling planetary dust. You'll also notice the paint and the tiny piece of sponge that I used to add even more "chipping" to the finish.

I just mixed up the paints together to get some of-white shades, and dipped the sponge in, and dabbed it on. 

You can see the results here, as well as some acrylic patchy shading I've done on top just for visual interest. I still have to paint the blacks of the windows, and add the dec...I mean, er,the stickers... I hope they don't look cheesy!

Still a long way to go here...I'm in the process of painting in some more grays and different colors on the rest of the ship. Then to add the decals and stickers, andthen it will be on to the rest of final weathering. A grey wash, some more chips, some paint mapping.....so much to do yet. Thanks for any comments and continued critiques, guys!

*PS* I just scored a second AMT Eagle on eBayfor a mere $36.00! Not a bad deal for a hard-to-snag kit!

Good luck with the masking! Hope the foil works out, haha I know you know what you're doing though, from silly putty to rainbow dots you've got the finishing techniques covered!

Very cool subject- way before my time unfortunitly, but this is very nice build

So far in my "career" I've done a boat, few planes, helicopters, tanks, figures, and a car or two.

Guess this forum's my final frontier! You start making that plane and I'll throw some sci-fi stuff together!

I do enjoy stopping in here though, always some cool ship/camo paterns and sweet weathering going on.

PS nice work on the cockpit, love the little space suits!

Hi guys,

Just an update--got the "stickers"--I thought they were decals!--and they DON'T include the stripes for the rescue unit, so I'm in the process of masking and spraying them, but it's slow-going because I'm busy lately. 

caSSius, that's pretty cool that your relative was on the production crew!

Bill, no the primer doesn't go on overly thick, but it does fill scratches and blemishs pretty well. I think it's really formulated for auto modeling, and it gives a great base for applying paint. But I wouldn't use it on armor. Dunno why; would just think it unnecessary?

Very cool Eagle, terry! Nice scratchin' on that winch!

russianfist, tnaks for that link-- a good reference there! 

More updates when I get around to having something to show!

Sweet!

I thought I was one the only folks here who watched and liked Space 1999.

I had most of the die cast eagles and even some of the UFO series stuff when I was young.

Gerry Andersons vision in modeling is right up there with Shep Payne, IMHO.

Heres a link to show the 44" Eagle built by a special effects outfit.

http://www.fxmodels.com/space1999.shtml

Karl, like what your doing so far, Just want to post a pic of one I did about 10 years ago.

Might give you ideas about painting the Frame.

Ps. the winch unit is scratch built. Done this long before product enterpreise came out with theirs.

Terry

Lookin' good!  I'm enjoying your progress on this.  Makes me want to dig up a set of Space:1999 for my DVD collection! 

Thanks for sharing.

Looking very nce, Karl.  Does the prime go on thick, hide any details?

Can't wait to see "space weathering," DOOG style.

Looking really great Karl!  Now that I've found this little gem of a thread I'll be following along...this program always had a special meaning for me, as my uncle was part of the production crew. I'm anxious to see the doog magic put to work on this baby's finish.

Cheers

Thanks, guys!--HEY BILL; thanks for bopping over here and taking a peek! Iappreciate it, and the comment!

Terry, yes; I do want to do a rescue Eagle. Ij ust like the paint scheme!

And you wingers, just calm down! LOL! LIke Bill said--this FLIES too!

Well, here's a small update; I'm basically finsihed with the base coat. I have primed, undercoated, and then base coated her, and now I'm stuck waiting on decals, as I want to do a very subtle weathering on this, kinda like I've seen on one of those sites that was applied to one of the actual 48' models used on the show.

So here's the model prined with Tamiya Fine White primer. This stuff is amazing. Fills in imperfections, and you could actually use it for a white base coat.

And then a Panzer Gray base coat--after this, I wanted to just put some Balkenkreuz on it and brap it over the Eastern Front! LOL!

Oh yeah; and I also made the serrated edges here on the "ear dimples" or whatever they are here. I used a heat tool to nick them. This is the base coat, applied not-quite-opaquely over the gray, to give some "aging" to the finish, and some depth-of-shadow.

And here'e a sample of the weathering I'm going to plan for it. This is really just the rudimentary first step; but you can see hints of the tones I'm going to use. Of course, I need the rest of the decals--the ones I've ordered allegedly contain the big red stripes, so I'm going to wait to get them, and the decide whether or not I want to decal them, or just use them as templates to paint them on. It's gonna be a bear to mask them effectively; I'll probably use bare metal foil to do that, if it comes down to that.

Well, like I said....I'm just waiting on those decals......come on, mail lady!........

Karl,

Definitely looking forward to seeing this one get painted. Just goes to show that the skills are transferrable across the genres. You can evade the fly-boys though since this one does fly.

the doog wrote:

I guess now the Aircraft guys are really going to be on my butt now to do a plane and "prove myself" capable of it, lol!

I saw ya peekin, doog. I'm silently watching, patiently waiting. So, do you think it'll be German?

Looking really good so far Karl. Can't wait to see a coat of paint on her, are you going to do a rescue, like on the box with red stripes.

Terry.

   Karl, I have a suggestion for your A/C build, its available in both 1/72(My Preferred scale) and 1/48th, The Horton HO(GO)229! Its simple, a flying wing. There is lots of info on the net, Its WWII Deutsch And it looks like something from BSG or B5.....

        So is the Eagle done yet? I was given the moonbase Alpha kit a few years back and I'm thinking about pulling it out also alonmg with my eagle. Lrt us know when its done and you start on an A/C!!!!!!!!!

                     Good Hunting, G.W.

warhorse3 wrote:

Nice looking Eagle, Karl. Now if only you'd build a ship and a plane you truly could say that you are a jack of all trades, master of none. Seriously, your skills at taking a dated or otherwise difficult kit and turning it into a well done replica are what most aspire to.                  Regards, Bill

I have to laugh--I have already got a ship build in my inventory--I built this Monogram Cutty Sark at least 15 years ago. I guess now the Aircraft guys are really going to be on my butt now to do a plane and "prove myself" capable of it, lol!

Jagdwolf--that's the one; the Amai kit! It doesn't look like a stellar kit, from what I could tell!

Thanks,  KlingonCommander; lot's of good info over there in Armor for sure. "A tank in space"--yup; that's a cool way to think of it. I'm going to go with a slightly distressed finish on this one as well. It should be quite the challenge to make it look "weathered" but within the frame and context of space, and not a WWII batlefield! LOL!

Thanks, hkshooter, and Phil H---I appreciate you keeping up with this post, and giving your ! Always nice to reminisce about the early years! Dreadful, by the way, that metallic greeen "dinky" as it was called, I believe? I think you can still find them on eBay?

hkshooter wrote:

Looking cool, doog. Takes me back to my younger years and reminds me of a toy I had of the thing. It was die cast and the center pod was detachable via a button on top of the thing. Many, many moons ago.

I remember that one - it had sprung landing gear pads too, if I recall correctly, and was. bizzarely, painted in metallic green.

Doog

Very nice work on the eagle! It's good to branch out and built subjects that aren't necessarily what you normally build. I go to all modeling forums, ships, armor, aircraft and get lots of valuable information. I have recently been lurking and posting in armor forums because being a noob to airbrushing and weathering, I felt that was a great place to go for information and it has been. In my current build of a klingon cruiser, I felt it was a "tank" in space LOL! So I am painting it accordingly. Thanks for all the valuable information and a shout out to all you armor modelers!

Thank you, Gary! Thanks for commenting, and I'm happy to hear that you've been inspired by that which I so love to do; to model whatever catches my fancy!

Space 1999 was a cool show, even if it now looks a litttle dated on my DVDs that I have of the first two years! The one thing that always shines for me though is this ship! I love the Eagles!

I wonder if AMT will ever re-release this? I know there are some other Japanese models out there, but the ones I've seen are even worse than this one--the one has red plastic?!?!

Thanks again for looking in, Gary!

Hey thanks guys--nice to get some chattering' traffic here! Thanks for the comments and compliments!

Hmmm. well, I don't think I'll go in for the dorsal ladder fix, cm; That will have to wait for the "second" major rebuild, if I ever indeed do get around to one! But thanks for that info; I didn't even notice that.

Nothing wrong with Sci-Fi. I've been a fan for ages!

Huxy, maybe once I pare down my stash a little more, I'll think about it? 

Division 6 wrote:

Plus the Eagle is kinda off the beaten track for most folk that stick with SW, ST and mecha.

Well, the SF kits I do build don't include SW or the politically correct Fed wimps from ST: only Klingon cruisers for me. Otherwise, my collection includes Babylon 5 (Starfury and Thunderbolt), Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons, UFO, Space:1999, BattleTech (Clans only), CAV, and Gear Krieg.

Ok, Doog.. here's why you should build one..

It's German WWII.

It supported the German ground forces.

Build a Stuka and a Stuka Zu fuzz.. line them up togheter ;)

Again, it's German WWII..

 And it's a model..

Now...?

-Lasse 

cmtaylor wrote:

nothing wrong with SF.

Never said there was.

Big time Sci Fi builder myself, just seems others on this forum stick with only one thing, aircraft, Armor, etc...

I build it all.

E... 

Doog,

Looking good.

Probably not a lot of comments because it's the Sci Fi section and most of the folks don't want others to know they lurk here on occasion.

Plus the Eagle is kinda off the beaten track for most folk that stick with SW, ST and mecha.

A good modeler will tackle every thing, not box themself into one subject.

Eric... 

Plasticbender wrote:

This project is fantastic and is coming along great, it is really a beautiful space ship and you are doing justice to the original desing that the kit didn't have from the start. Fred

Huxy wrote:

Messerschmitt is the correct name for the manufacturer. Meshershmit is how it is pronounced.   It IS as simple as that, Doog! Oh... Stuka is made by the manufacturer JUNKER Junker was also what was the nickname to any German aircraft during the battle of Britain. Even though it was a HEINKEL It was still "Blue 1 to Wizard. Junker spotted!"   Heinkel was the ones who made the famous HEINKEL 3, or HE III.  Also nicknamed (In my family) "The flying fishtank".   Anything more?   -Lasse

Jus' cuz I can pronounce it doesn't mean I'll build it! LOL!

This project is fantastic and is coming along great, it is really a beautiful space ship and you are doing justice to the original desing that the kit didn't have from the start.

Fred

Messerschmitt is the correct name for the manufacturer.

Meshershmit is how it is pronounced.

It IS as simple as that, Doog!

Oh... Stuka is made by the manufacturer

JUNKER

Junker was also what was the nickname to any German aircraft during the battle of Britain. Even though it was a

HEINKEL

It was still "Blue 1 to Wizard. Junker spotted!"

Heinkel was the ones who made the famous HEINKEL 3, or HE III.  Also nicknamed (In my family) "The flying fishtank".

Anything more?

-Lasse 

Thanks a bunch, Manny!

Ya got that right--I do love to model! (anything but planes...LOL!)

Who knows, friend? Maybe some day in the future?...wouldn't mind doing a Stuka some day, or a Messy...Messer...Mess-a-shmiff--whatever they're called!? LOL!

I appreciate you coming out to this orbit to check it out!

Thank you kindly, Bill! I appreciate the comment! It's not like "Armor" over here, where you'll get ten guys to comment on any given build or post! Over 620 Views of this thread so far, and only a handful of familiar faces even bother giving any support! Odd.....?

It's like.....well; like being on the moon over here!

I appreciate the   Thanks for looking in!

Geez, maybe I should try a "Klingon lawnmower" or something, LOL!

to swipe a line from a favorite movie, Man on Fire, Some men work with oils, some with clay, others with food.  Doog works with plastic, and he's going to make a masterpiece.

You, sir, have talent. I'd watch a WIP if you were making a 1/16 lawn mower.

Well, I'm ready for painting--I think.....if anybody sees anything glaring here, shout it out before I commit!

Here's the finished cockpit before I sealed it up...

The finishing of the landing gear started with two parallel .040 strips glued to an .040 X .010 strip wrapped around the leg there....

And then two bars of .040 rods to support them.

I can't believe I got them all to sit evenly!

Then, I fashioned some springy things to go on them like shock absorbers or something....hey, I don't know how this stuff works!? I decided to keep the kit's "shoes"--the landing pads themselves.I'm just trying to make a decent representation out of this model, nnot necessarily use it in the remade series! LOL!

I added some mounting strips to the cockpit attachment, and to the tops of the girders joining the body to the upper girder...

...and in the rear, here...

I finished all the duct work and pipes in the engines...top;

...bottom...

.....additional views.....

Alan Carter in the house!!!

And a view from the side and top!

Well, that's where I've taken this build so far, as far as correcting and detailing. I'm pretty happy with the improvements I've made in making it a decent representation of an Eagle.

Next up; priming and painting....

Any comments or suggestions are more than welcomed! Anybody out there?!? Alpha?

Thanks, terry!

I appreciate the info here; I ordered some decals from eBay; that should be a big help!

Oh my god---that guy's Eagle on the forums there-the one that he's accurizing from the ground up? WOW! AMAZING!!!!

I"m not too crazy or disappointed about having less than 100% accuracy on this one--this kit was really a "gift to myself", one that I wanted to build to take me back to my childhood. I just wanted to detail and correct some of the more egregious errors and simplifications, like the engines and the landing gear legs. I even thought about correcting the actual pads, but decided they look fine as they are.

Thansk for the measurement too--mine comes up just a shade short; actually, I measured the height of the kit legs before I cut them off, and it's shorter by about 2mm's from your measurement  I'm about to do n update here; you'll be able to see it; I think it looks pretty ok...

Thanks, again!

Oh yeah look up Colin Taylor, he is a member here and would be a person I would regard very highly in recreating studio props.

forgot this...really check out this one there is good build ups as well.

http://www.starshipmodeler.com/tech/1999_ref.htm

http://www.starshipmodeler.com/other/jw_1999.htm

Terry.

Try ebay for decals I know there is a guy doing a set. Worst case try buying letraset, dont ask me the set numbers.

As for a year, one or two, the kit your working on is just offensive. Its more of a toy.

no matter how much effort you put in it just kicks back but don't despair....

http://www.eagletransporter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4861

this is somebody trying to superdetail one of these.

As you may know the box art shows a rescue eagle, that only appeared in year one.

you would be better off buying a product enterprises eagle on ebay and repainting it yourself.

I make it 18mm from the base of the foot to the bottom of the shoulder pod. thats for an 11 inch model,

This may be of help with the main engines, its a match to the layout of one my friend photographed in the 70's when people wore flares and watched Space1999.

Try this site its a goldmine, the jackpot and the motherload. this guy owns the original.

http://homepages.tesco.net/d.sisson/eagle1.htm

try this one aswell....

http://www.eagletransporter.com/

If you need anything else just mail me.

Terry

LOL, Thanks, Woody!

And thanks Paul, Huxy, and Terry, for keeping tuned in! I appreciate your comments! 

Terry, I emailed you, buddy! If you can help, I'd appreciate it!

I might need some help too, with the coloring of alll the panels--what little squares or circles, etc, are gray, or red, etc. That guy isn't accepting orders for his decals on that site, so I have to improvise.... I'm also wondering what "version" Eagle is this? First year? Second year?

Karl

Nice shooting so far Karl, if you need any info on this subject, PM me or terry35@gmail.com its my favourite subject in the  world, I have 17 Eagles and thats just not enough, from 3 inch to twenty three and 22inch models Studio replicas kits, you name it.

Thats my kitchen table.

If you want better shots just ask and i will deliver.

Terry.

Here's an update for anyone still following this thread?

I've decided that I can't live with the weird suspension that they put on this model. It's "simplified" to say the least! This should have been done while the parts were separate, but as usual, I do things the hard way! LOL! I had to really think how the heck to achieve this while the pods were glued closed.

I started by cutting off the little boxes that are molded on, and completely inaccurate, by the way...

Then, I took a plug of .080 styrene, cut into a square slightly larger than the hole, and dropped it in.

Hold it up, and let it settle into the hole as a plug....

In order to hold the plug in place whil eI glued it, I drilled a small hole in the top, and pressed the drilll against the plug. The I flipped the model over, quickly applied cement, and then held the drill against the plug, sealing it tightly as it dried. Couldn't phtograph that, though--I woulda needed three hands!

Then, a separate plug of exactly the same size as the remaining square hole was shaped and dropped into the depression remaining there. I cut the second square plugjust slightly larger than the space it needed to fill, chamfered the edges a little bit, and with a liberal shot of Tenax R7, the plug sealed the hole tightly. It worked like a charm.

The holes were then plugged with styrene rod melted into the holes.

Then, the centers were located, and drilled out.

Tubes of .125 diameter were inserted, and then the legs of the "feet" were made with .080 rod--these fit into the .125 tubes. Now all I have to do is to figure out how to sit them all correctly after adding the landing strut details!

The egine bays are all finished too--I added 4 more strut coming off the corners of the cages there. It looks appropriately busy in there! 

More to come! Anyone with suggestions or comments, I'm always happy to hear from you!

Great progress Karl, I love the additional pipework.

This is going to be spectacular when you're done with it.

Pretty sweet! I like it so far

I have a plastic sheet from the same company, but it doesen't bend

Can't wait for more!!  

Ok, so here's some of the work I'm doing on the engine. This is one of the most lacking of parts in the kit; after really looking at a slew of photos on the net, I was shamed into wanting to produce a more accurate representation. I am working strictly from photos from the internet sites, not from blueprints, so everything you're going to see is my own approximation of what seems to be the ductwork and tubing on these beautiful ships.

Here's what you start with in the kit.

Next, I removed the incorrect joining of the smaller balls, and using some Super Styrene, wrapped a .080 tube around the exterior of the engine nacelles (?). This stuff is fabulous for scratchbuilding; ordinary styrene, but it bends like solder without breaking! I picked up a small stash of it a year or so ago; alas, they've discontinued it, but I'm glad I had the perfect size for this application! 

I mounted the engine to the body, and using regular .080 styrene, started adding the bracing to the interior of the engines, I also connnected the two little--I'm going to call them fuel cells(?)--with tubing.

Next, added some inner braces. Thankfully, I have a good colllection of tweezer! This was all very tedious cut, insert, measure, file one millimetre, check fit, insert, glue....VERY tedious! You'll notice that the fuel cells had to be inserted and draped over the engine nacelles while I added the bracing; otherwise I wouldn't have been able to get them in later.

Next, the step that almost drove me crazy--I had to fix the tubing that cnnected the fuel cells to the two inner braces that I'd added. In this shot, you can see the cross bars that served as the mounting points.

Here you can see them mounted and another set of tubes added above and below the fuel cells.

You can see theprogress so far. Additional "caging: was added; some more braces above and below, forming a "U" around the interior. There's still some more tubes and ducts to be added, plus smaller details on the engine nacelles themselves.

I'm satisfied that, while maybe not 100% "correct", it at least addresses and dresses up one of the weakest parts of the kit. 

Now, I'm kicking myself for not having Dremeled-out those body cages.... Oh well; like I said--the NEXT one will get the "full treatment"! By the way, I DID also add the bracing to the long fuselage brace on the top. 

I won't be around this weekend, so there will not be an update til maybe Tuesday or so. Thanks for everyone's help and advice so far! Keep the comments and tips coming! 

Jagdwolf wrote:

doog: JBOT has the decals for the Eagle and Hawk kits, in case you want to put the correct markings on. http://www.jbot.ca/space/eagle.shtml As a side note, the Eagle kit is considered 1/96, and not 1/72 as many have erronously presumed over the years. An extra kit? Hmmm...I'll check my stash and see if I can pull one up for you. Aaronw: I still have the Dinky renditions of the Eagle, SHADO Interceptor (2), the Spectrum Pursuit Vehicle (SPV), Spectrum Maximum Security Vehicle (MSV), and the Spectrum saloon car. I intend of refurbishing them as they should be, in both colours and markings. For those who wondered about the end of Moonbase Alpha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UJu0_NSt8Y&feature=related  This was included in the Space:1999 DVD Megaset.

Padakr--I actually have the first two box sets; man, there's a lot of memories in there! The effects were a but cheesy, but you gotta love those Eagles!

AaronW--hey, I built that Moonbase Alpha kit too! LOL! 

Bill--don't worry; I'll still be watching the Armor forums! 

Cosmic J--now you just behave yourself! ...

Thanks guys, I'm making some good progress on the engines and the capsule; more pics maybe tomorrow? 

Division 6 wrote:

You might be intrested on the Eagle Transporter Forum.   Eric...

doog: JBOT has the decals for the Eagle and Hawk kits, in case you want to put the correct markings on.

http://www.jbot.ca/space/eagle.shtml

As a side note, the Eagle kit is considered 1/96, and not 1/72 as many have erronously presumed over the years. An extra kit? Hmmm...I'll check my stash and see if I can pull one up for you.

Aaronw: I still have the Dinky renditions of the Eagle, SHADO Interceptor (2), the Spectrum Pursuit Vehicle (SPV), Spectrum Maximum Security Vehicle (MSV), and the Spectrum saloon car. I intend of refurbishing them as they should be, in both colours and markings.

For those who wondered about the end of Moonbase Alpha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UJu0_NSt8Y&feature=related 

This was included in the Space:1999 DVD Megaset.

What the...!?!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!?

OK, I had the 3 foot version, and the little orange, 3 inch suited astronauts, too.

But posting in Sci Fi?!??!?!?!?

J/K

Bill (your secret is safe with me). 

Very cool Doog.

We have the Blockbuster "mail the DVD to your house" service, and my wife and I got a couple of the CDs from the series about a year or so back.  Watched them for a trip down memory lane.  Our 18-year old son commented on the "chessy CGI" and I had to explain to him that those were actual scale models that some very talented craftsmen created.

You might be intrested on the Eagle Transporter Forum.

Eric... 

the doog wrote:

Hi, uh.....strangers..? Well, after reading some of the responses to the thread "Why is the Armor forum the best forum?" that ran over there a few days ago (Claim is sole responsibility of the author!--not ME!) I'm a little skeered to post over here in this "Wild West" forum, but I hope you'll enjoy this real departure for me.

Heehee!

Why keep it a secret when it's gonna look as awesome as anything else you've done?No way,dude!

Phil_H wrote:

Nice progress so far Karl. You may wish to add the crossbeams on the lower section of the truss. There's actually a crude representation of the crossbeams on the roofs of the engine and cockpit modules, but none above the "pod". I had the Airfix boxing of this kit many (30+) years ago. Wish I could get hold of one now...   This article might be helpful: http://www.starshipmodeler.com/other/md_eagle.htm

I'm just going to build this pretty much OOB besides the cockpit mod. I'm going to rely on my finishing skills to bring it up to par. If I can score a second one, I will attempt a more accurate build according to that tutorial there!

TD4438--let's keep this our secret, ok?! LOL!

Nice progress so far Karl.

You may wish to add the crossbeams on the lower section of the truss. There's actually a crude representation of the crossbeams on the roofs of the engine and cockpit modules, but none above the "pod".

I had the Airfix boxing of this kit many (30+) years ago. Wish I could get hold of one now...  

This article might be helpful: http://www.starshipmodeler.com/other/md_eagle.htm

The model's command module inset ports should look like this, top and bottom, with the attendant white trim:

Jagdwolf wrote:

Just a note, doog...only the top two "windows" are viewports. The bottom two are just part of the command module's design. Of course, if you want to go whole hog, I guess I could send you copies of my Eagle blueprints that include the interiors. Then again, you'll probably want to "borrow" one of my old Airfix Hawks as its companion piece. Great start on the Eagle.  I have the Airfix, MPC and AMT kits, plus the Comet Miniatures' kit with launch pad.

Jagdwolf, I kinda figgered that out after I had congratulated myself for successfully drilling and carefully cutting out the two of them--and then discovering that I had had the damned capsule upside down! LOL! So I had to turn it over, drill out the correct two viewports, and plug the other two up.

Are the bottom ones flush, like they were molded? I may have to do some repairs there if that's the case.

You can't see a whole heck of a lot through the ports, so the rough representation of the interior will do. This is reallly just a fun build of a beloved aspect of my childhood memories! 

Thanks for looking in, guys!

Just a note, doog...only the top two "windows" are viewports. The bottom two are just part of the command module's design. Of course, if you want to go whole hog, I guess I could send you copies of my Eagle blueprints that include the interiors. Then again, you'll probably want to "borrow" one of my old Airfix Hawks as its companion piece.

Great start on the Eagle.  I have the Airfix, MPC and AMT kits, plus the Comet Miniatures' kit with launch pad.

WOW!! DOOOG!!

Want me to snitch?    That you've turned over to the... uhm.. bright side? (Sci-fi is space, space = close to sun, right?)

Anyways, I hand around here a bit myself, mainly for the Warhammer bit...

Double-anyways, Like what you've done already, and the Germans looks like Russian wintersoldiers now.. Or,  those pilots in the show you mentioned...

-Lasse 

Wow Doog, you are all over the map lately... tanks, cars, and now Sci Fi?

I was always more partial to UFO myself rather than Space 1999 of those shows...