Enterprise the series.

Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 24, 2004 8:48 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Woody

By the way how come the NX Enterprise wasn't on the display that was in the recreation area of the NCC-1701A of all the vessels to carry the name Enterprise?

Maybe Berman could make another time travel episode and address that................. Big Smile [:D]

I hate to say it but that's kinda a cool design.

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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, April 24, 2004 10:48 PM

hmmm that picture looks like a Starfleet version of the Romulan Bird of Prey from the TOS ?

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midnightprowler

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Posted by midnightprowler on Sunday, April 25, 2004 7:40 AM

Woody, I am with you. I don't appreciate some of the liberties been taken By Enterprise. The ships are just too modern with what is already been set for the most part.
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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:31 PM

hmmm 5 episodes left and they are starting to get interesting wonder when they will get to the Earth Romulan war

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 30, 2004 11:16 AM

You know what drives me crazy? Is all the posting that 'says' the NX-01 is a ripoff of the Akira.

Why isn't it possible for the Akira to be a redesign of one of Starfleet's first ships?

When Enterprise first started I first thought "hey, why's this ship have such a slick design comparied to the clunky NCC version? DUH! TOS came out what 30 years ago? Was Archer supposed to be wearing Beatle boots too?

The majority of the Star Trek shows are based around a ship. Though DS9 wasn't, they eventually got the Defiant. How would Enterprise have gone had it looked like the one in Woody's sig? (No offense to you, Woody) I think if the Enterprise looked like a trashcan with wings (again no offense), the show would have flopped.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 30, 2004 11:30 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mikeym_us

oh by the way the borg were encountered by Admiral kirk when he went to stop V'GER from destroying the Earth remember the scene when Spock talks about seeing a planet inhabited by cybernetic creatures they were the Borg this is explained more in William (Kirk) Shatners books that take place after Generations where Jim Kirk is brought back to life yet again.

How Canon are the Shatner books?
There was a book that took place just after Star Trek IV "Save the Whales" Wink [;)]

It described the probe being attacked by a number of Geometric ships (cubes maybe?)

It seems odd that a cybernetic race would help one organically creator prob and send it on its merry way and attempt to destroy another and subsequently that probe's creators.

Quite likely neither books are canon and therefore, neither involved the Borg.

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cassibill

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Posted by cassibill on Friday, April 30, 2004 2:06 PM

Some books are canon. Mostly the Voyager books like Mosaic, Pathways, homecoming and the farther shore. Some DS9 too.

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Friday, April 30, 2004 6:17 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by ngc7293

How would Enterprise have gone had it looked like the one in Woody's sig? (No offense to you, Woody) I think if the Enterprise looked like a trashcan with wings (again no offense), the show would have flopped.

Well the Daedalus Class never carried the Name Enterprise for one.
A show featuring a Daedalus! Too cool I'd never miss a episode! Cool [8D]

Calling the show Enterprise is part of it's continuity flaw.
I thought the old style uniforms looked great on DS9. I also loved the episode of ST:TNG with Scotty. My heart skipped a beat during the scene on the halo deck featuring the old Enterprise bridge.
In most things I tend to look to the past. I know I'm a fossil. LOL

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midnightprowler

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Posted by midnightprowler on Saturday, May 1, 2004 7:48 AM

I'm with ya Woody, i felt the same way with that Next Gen episode. I have a couple of shots of the Enterprise that is supposed to be between the Space shuttle and 1701, but no way to post. You can see it on the wall in the rec. deck seen in ST The Motion Picture, and it is also in the bood Star Trek-- Space flight chronology. Woody, can ya help me post the pics?
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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Saturday, May 1, 2004 11:55 AM

How are these Lee?

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 1, 2004 12:01 PM

I remember that book, a friend of mine had it years ago. Didn't it have a Moscow class ship too? Guess B&B didn't care to look in it. Frankly I just don't think they cared, period.

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Saturday, May 1, 2004 12:29 PM

Is this the Starship you mean Steven?

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 1, 2004 1:05 PM

Yes, I think that's it. I remember it being a side view, but it looks like it.
By the way, Hydran Ranger coming along nicely. Got shuttle bay doors in........2 side and one aft. Puttying nose section today. Warp engines will be a challenge. A friend took pics with digicam, but hasn't e-mailed them to me. I'll post when I have them. Carrier still eaking along.

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Saturday, May 1, 2004 1:31 PM

I'm really looking forward to seeing both of those projects Steve. I'm thinking about proposing a Star Trek group build after the Starfighter build closes in June. Scratchbuilt starships from any medium at least 60% from scratch. Would you be in? The starship above is a Baton Rouge class. The ship in the painting is the U.S.S. Moscow. Here is the other pic from the book.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 1, 2004 5:22 PM

I like the show "Enterprise" more than any other star trek show I've watched. The script writing is superb, especially in season 3. I believe Braga and Berman have finally figured it out. I look forward to every episode.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:05 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Woody

I'm really looking forward to seeing both of those projects Steve. I'm thinking about proposing a Star Trek group build after the Starfighter build closes in June. Scratchbuilt starships from any medium at least 60% from scratch. Would you be in? The starship above is a Baton Rouge class. The ship in the painting is the U.S.S. Moscow. Here is the other pic from the book.

I'd definately be in for that. Might do the Orion pirate cruiser or Kzinti. Does that classify? The Moscow would be an interesting build too.

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:58 PM

I'm kind of thinking the Baton Rouge class would be fun myself. Here is the plans for another Orion Pirate vessel.

Pretty sweet, huh?

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, May 1, 2004 11:00 PM

can the Starfleet Battles miniature be included oh by the way does anybody know of any decals or markings for the miniatures since i have 4 Constitution Class Heavy Cruisers and i was planning on doing them as the Constitution, Enterprise,Defiant and Exeter. And i have a 500 series Destroyer and a 2100 series Dreadnaught plus the Starships from ADB's StarFleet Battles series but since those are Pewter i dont think those count oh and Woody if your planning on playing Klingons against me in SFB be warned i have a huge fleet of Starfleet Vessels (10) Big Smile [:D]

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Sunday, May 2, 2004 12:35 AM

Steve & Mike I'm proposing a scratchbuild of any Star Trek vessel from any printed, internet, TV, or movie source. So if it is atleast 60% scratchbuilt and it exists in the mediums listed above it would be ok. The construction mateial doesn't matter to me; wood, plastic, metal, its all good. Wink [;)]

Mike as far as using the Klingons, I guess me and you will have to team up and go after those rascals because I'm a hardcore Federation guy. Big Smile [:D]

Here comes the fleet!

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 9:02 AM

Woody, I have that FASA mini of the Pirate Blockade runner somewhere. Yes, cool ship.The Baton Rouge might be an easier build. To many odd angles on the Pirate.

Mike I know someone makes the decals for those Fed minis. I'll see if I can dig it up.

And if you guys are gonna gang up on the Klingons, I'll attack 'em from the flank with the Hydrans!! Big Smile [:D]

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Sunday, May 2, 2004 2:53 PM

Hmmm....At least they didn't have to spend a lot of money on design.

Looks pretty close to me. What do you think?

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 4:20 PM

Probably almost nothing on design, because they already had a pretty detailed CGI model of the Akira, so all they needed to do was tweak the image a little bit, change some dimensions, and delete a few decks from underneath the saucer. (The side views are slightly different, Akira has more desk under the saucer) If anything they had a jumping off point.

However, NX-01 could have flow in DS9/Voyager, and I wouldn't have thought it out of place at all, it would look good in the fleet shots. The Centur is older looking than NX01
Though I must say.. the Akira is such a sexy looking ship.

I wish they had shown more of the lesser-known classes though.. Saber, Steamrunner, Norway, and the Enterprise-J from Enterprise.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 8:25 PM

is it just me or we getting off trackhere? i thought this debate was about the series and not just about the design of the ship.i agree the ship is definately out of sinc. with the rest of the ST universe but the writing on this 3rd series is just CRAP! this week,on this side of the pond,we've just had a story about Archer going mental over a batch of eggs for god's sake.i'm beging to think that the only ineresting character on the whole series is T'pol,and not only coz she's fit,the writers seem to find writing for her a lot easier than they do the others.maybe it's because she's a Vulcan, with a lot of hangups,and not just your usual gungho hero type.i know budget restraints account for a lot of character driven episodes,but give me a battle anytime.i had high hopes when the Makos were introduced into the story arc but apart from 1 or 2 episodes they have been inconspicuous by their absence.i can feel myself starting to ramble now,maybe its the beer,maybe i'm just tired ,its 2.30am in england,but i just feel that this series is 1 big letdown.

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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Sunday, May 2, 2004 8:55 PM

actually they were in the episode when archer invaded that ship to relieve them of their warp coil so he could complete his mission

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 9:13 PM

The writing IS crap! I seem to remember an episode all about the damned dog! I actually turned it off I was so disappointed. B&B need to be fired. I think they should take a break and start a new series..............Star Trek: Titan. Riker at the helm. Hey we can dream can't we! Smile [:)]

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 3, 2004 6:31 AM

Geeee... maybe if they put some more time travel in there, it would be better. Thumbs Down [tdn]

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 3, 2004 8:26 AM

Or maybe bring in Dean Stockwell and do some Quantum Leaping................. Big Smile [:D]

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Monday, May 3, 2004 6:51 PM

ROTFLMAO

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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, May 3, 2004 7:29 PM

they already had him in one of the episodes of Season 2 where he was head of a suliban concentration camp

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cassibill

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Posted by cassibill on Tuesday, May 4, 2004 2:48 PM

The exact episode with stockwell is called "Detained".

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/episodes/ENT/detail/124257.html

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