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  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, September 2, 2022 8:17 PM

Gamera

Bakster: The paint and washes look perfect! Great job replicating the film!!! Heart

 

Hey thanks Gam!

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    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, September 3, 2022 8:13 AM

Dear  MR.Backster:

     This is to inform you, Your subscription to "NITE IDEAS" While Building Movie Submarines has been renewed. No Further Action from you is required.

Thank You! 

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, September 3, 2022 8:50 AM

Tanker-Builder

Dear  MR.Backster:

     This is to inform you, Your subscription to "NITE IDEAS" While Building Movie Submarines has been renewed. No Further Action from you is required.

Thank You! 

 

Lol. I am glad to hear this. It would have been tragic if it wasn't because I already made a purchase for it.

I think you will like this night inspiration, TB. For a bit though, I must keep you in suspense. I must keep the anticipation alive. Just like Capns Bruce, you will never know when it strikes. Wink

 

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, September 3, 2022 3:11 PM

For the gator eyes light assembly I had cut and fitted styrene to act as an LED holder. The LED and LED holder is glued in using ca.

One thing I learned early on is that there is a ton of light leak around the gator eye housings. The pieces don't have a great fit, but worse than that ... there are huge open cavities below the housing. So, as shown below, I incapsulated the LED, the holder, and I filled some of the cavities with Apoxie Sculpt. As well, the epoxy is the catalyst to secure the assembly to the boat

The light leak solution worked well. For reference the image is greatly underexposed so as to not blowout the LEDs.

Also worked on but not shown: I attached the boats anchors, and I fitted the screw and deck chains readying them for paint. The screw took some fitting. Good I checked that before paint.

 

 

 

 


And before all this, a breakfast of champions.

Wink

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, September 3, 2022 3:21 PM

PS: Hopefully, Bruce doesn't sniff out my breakfast. Could be trouble.

  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, September 3, 2022 4:04 PM

Breakfast?

     Shoot, I would sit down to that any time. Where's my Chair?

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, September 3, 2022 7:22 PM

Tanker-Builder

Breakfast?

     Shoot, I would sit down to that any time. Where's my Chair?

 

Your chair is waiting for you. If I lived near ya, I would even treat.

 

  • Member since
    May 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:25 AM

As you alluded to, the primer job with Mr Surfacer looked so cool, makes it hard to move forward. Been there, get it.

But you outdid yourself again with the paint and wash. Glad you had good results with the Vallejo wash. I have some on the shelf, seeing your results on a large project may help give me confidence to try it.

Coming along beautifully. YesYes

And a couple of random comments;

I haven't been to breakfast in too long and your pic above sure made me miss it! And a group breakfast with the Bakster WIP groupies sure would be a hoot. I would do a road trip for that. Smile

Regarding Joe Rix, though I haven't spoken with him in quite a long time, I did speak with a fellow forum member 2 days ago who has. I was told that though the flooding was bad in Moab, Joe and his home/family were unaffected and he is doing fine.

-Greg

  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, September 4, 2022 11:31 AM

Oh My!

    I would take you up on that too. Trouble is, Your winters are too hard on me.

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, September 4, 2022 1:23 PM

Bakster

And before all this, a breakfast of champions.

Wink

Looks tasty.  Mind, I'd have this reflex to wrap it in warm soft flour tortilla with a jot of salsa verde and café mexicana.  Which is likely given my submergense in such a cultural heritage.  Up thre in your hinterlands, I might try to make it a casserole Smile

(I do have a recipe in my pocket for a quite nice breackfast Caserole, come to cases, cmae out of Indiana, so has suitable Midwest roots.)

 

Not sure going to .raw for the photos will "beat" the consrictions that Kalmbach's web hosting graphich rendering will impose on any image.  Rendering graphic images is ridiculous complicated.  And not through incompetence nor indifference--it's, frankly, a miracle of technology that it works at all.

And, then, there is the disconnect that the Mk I Mod 0* Eyeball, Human, has with even the best photogrpahy.  The human visual cortex interpolates much in photographs as is.

Case in point from just yesterday:

It's pouring rain in this photo, but the rain drops are scarcely visible in the photograph.
Rendered perfectly to my eye, but vanished in the photo, despite megapixel count and high resolutiion settings.

So, the fact that I can appreciate any red-basing in the paint scheme at all is a measure of success.

This also invites a nagging question lurking at the edges of modern modeling.  Do we render "to the camera" or "to the eye"?  This has become hugely important in the success of YT videos, where 80% of the viewers see the screen image as "reality" despite the very real difference to the eye of the actual modeler.

Rendered to the "satisfaction" of viewers, makes an ugly mess, IRL. 

Whether that "explains" some of the heavy-handed techniques much in vogue in videos is probably yet another question.

 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Sunday, September 4, 2022 5:10 PM

CapnMac82
It's pouring rain in this photo, but the rain drops are scarcely visible in the photograph.

Despite that, IMO this is an extremely cool photo. I love stuff like this.

-Greg

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, September 4, 2022 5:43 PM

Well!

       I think many try to hard to duplicate photos too. Trying to copy a box cover will give you the wrong colors. The photos on the Cover seem to shift to the red side of the Photo spectrum. What few I do I do it to suit my way of seeing that person in someone that resembles them. With the old EyeBall Mk.1

      I have seen military figures that evoked a vision of a "Wino" to me. Their skin has to many Red Highlights! There are many skin tones and that's another thing. Since when is a group of men in battle gear all the same skin tone? That doesn't cut it in my book. I have the 1/24 figurines of the American Pin Up Series.

      Not one of those ladies has the same skin tones. Some even have perfect tans. Some look like the mind picture of the Very Light skinned Irish Lass, with Copper red hair. I have one that has a beautiful Dark Toast Shading. Now she's coming out gorgeous.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 5, 2022 9:37 AM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster

And before all this, a breakfast of champions.

Wink

 

 

Looks tasty.  Mind, I'd have this reflex to wrap it in warm soft flour tortilla with a jot of salsa verde and café mexicana.  Which is likely given my submergense in such a cultural heritage.  Up thre in your hinterlands, I might try to make it a casserole Smile

(I do have a recipe in my pocket for a quite nice breackfast Caserole, come to cases, cmae out of Indiana, so has suitable Midwest roots.)

 

Not sure going to .raw for the photos will "beat" the consrictions that Kalmbach's web hosting graphich rendering will impose on any image.  Rendering graphic images is ridiculous complicated.  And not through incompetence nor indifference--it's, frankly, a miracle of technology that it works at all.

And, then, there is the disconnect that the Mk I Mod 0* Eyeball, Human, has with even the best photogrpahy.  The human visual cortex interpolates much in photographs as is.

Case in point from just yesterday:

It's pouring rain in this photo, but the rain drops are scarcely visible in the photograph.
Rendered perfectly to my eye, but vanished in the photo, despite megapixel count and high resolutiion settings.

So, the fact that I can appreciate any red-basing in the paint scheme at all is a measure of success.

This also invites a nagging question lurking at the edges of modern modeling.  Do we render "to the camera" or "to the eye"?  This has become hugely important in the success of YT videos, where 80% of the viewers see the screen image as "reality" despite the very real difference to the eye of the actual modeler.

Rendered to the "satisfaction" of viewers, makes an ugly mess, IRL. 

Whether that "explains" some of the heavy-handed techniques much in vogue in videos is probably yet another question.

 

 

All good points, Capn. I can't add to it. One thing I might mention about your image is to try different shutter speeds. I experienced the same issue imaging rain and I found that if you play with various shutter speeds, you can get closer to capturing the droplets. Just a thought.

Thanks for your informative post and enjoy your Labor Day!

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 5, 2022 9:45 AM

Greg

Glad you had good results with the Vallejo wash. I have some on the shelf, seeing your results on a large project may help give me confidence to try it.

Coming along beautifully. YesYes

And a couple of random comments;

I haven't been to breakfast in too long and your pic above sure made me miss it! And a group breakfast with the Bakster WIP groupies sure would be a hoot. I would do a road trip for that. Smile

Regarding Joe Rix, though I haven't spoken with him in quite a long time, I did speak with a fellow forum member 2 days ago who has. I was told that though the flooding was bad in Moab, Joe and his home/family were unaffected and he is doing fine.

 

I wish the affects of my wash came through better. So much of it was muted between reality and with imaging it.  Yeah. I had some good luck with the wash, and I like it's effect on Alclad brass. It tones down the tinsel look of it.

I agree about breakfast. I'd do a roadtrip too for a meet with the gang. It would be great to meet everyone.

Good to hear Joe came out Ok. Thanks for letting me know that. I am relieved for him.

Thanks for the nice comments and post, Greg.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 5, 2022 9:47 AM

Tanker-Builder

Well!

       I think many try to hard to duplicate photos too. Trying to copy a box cover will give you the wrong colors. The photos on the Cover seem to shift to the red side of the Photo spectrum. What few I do I do it to suit my way of seeing that person in someone that resembles them. With the old EyeBall Mk.1

      I have seen military figures that evoked a vision of a "Wino" to me. Their skin has to many Red Highlights! There are many skin tones and that's another thing. Since when is a group of men in battle gear all the same skin tone? That doesn't cut it in my book. I have the 1/24 figurines of the American Pin Up Series.

      Not one of those ladies has the same skin tones. Some even have perfect tans. Some look like the mind picture of the Very Light skinned Irish Lass, with Copper red hair. I have one that has a beautiful Dark Toast Shading. Now she's coming out gorgeous.

 

Good input, TB. Yes

  • Member since
    May 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Monday, September 5, 2022 11:15 AM

Bakster
.....try different shutter speeds. I experienced the same issue imaging rain and I found that if you play with various shutter speeds, you can get closer to capturing the droplets.

Yes. And which used to be an exercise in futility becuase it's usually darkish when it's raining and the film ASA (who remembers ASA?) didn't used to go high enough to allow a fast enough shutter speed to freeze the droplets.

With ISO's going higher and higher, better chance of making it work.

I still like Cap's pic as is, though. I wasn't smart enough to realize it was raining, and found myself mezmerized by the sharp forground and blurred background/stadium. Big part of my attraction to the pic, that.

-Greg

  • Member since
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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, September 5, 2022 12:46 PM

Greg

 

 
CapnMac82
It's pouring rain in this photo, but the rain drops are scarcely visible in the photograph.

 

Despite that, IMO this is an extremely cool photo. I love stuff like this.

 

Herd some flak about the "litter" under the seat.  I'm under a small overhang in that photo, out of the direct rain.  Standing to my right is the owner of the poncho folded in a clear envelope in that "litter" Smile

Game kicked off at 1100, and finished at 1720.  I left the house at 0520 and returned at 2210 Smile

For contrast, here's about 1100

  • Member since
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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, September 5, 2022 12:56 PM

Greg
I still like Cap's pic as is, though. I wasn't smart enough to realize it was raining, and found myself mezmerized by the sharp forground and blurred background/stadium. Big part of my attraction to the pic, that.

Since I hav the original, and can see it on a larger screen, what I notice is that the background is not so much blurred as obscurred by the rain.  The image is through the water droplets as it were.

If you look at the back of the seats, the camera did catch a few droplets.  Blown up, there's just a hint of splash on the concrete, too.

The image is from the three-element 16 mP front camera on my Galaxy S21.  So, not a lot of controls to fiddle with.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 5, 2022 2:10 PM

Cool pics, Capn. I like your perspective's. 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Monday, September 5, 2022 2:18 PM

CapnMac82
Herd some flak about the "litter" under the seat.

Utter nonsense. That littler is a big part of the overall attraction of the pic, at least to me it is.

Don't mean to get all serious in a lighthearted Bakster WIP, but it bugs me that now that everyone has a camera on thier phones, everyone thinks they are a togger and photo critic.

Tongue Tied

-Greg

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 5, 2022 4:00 PM

Greg

 

 
CapnMac82
Herd some flak about the "litter" under the seat.

 

Utter nonsense. That littler is a big part of the overall attraction of the pic, at least to me it is.

Don't mean to get all serious in a lighthearted Bakster WIP, but it bugs me that now that everyone has a camera on thier phones, everyone thinks they are a togger and photo critic.

Tongue Tied

 

I saw the garbage and immediately I understood its intent. It is part of the story! All good images tell a story! You take the garbage out of that image, suddenly, the image becomes far less interesting. I like the garbage because it is real. It is a snapshot of what happened there. 

You did good, Capn. Don't let anyone take that away from you.

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, September 5, 2022 4:05 PM

Uh Oh!

     I spent two seasons sitting in that Structure! Didn't recognize it at first. I earned my Post Doc.There! Lessee, does that make me an official "AGGIE" ? The Litter? Is part of the story, Why the negatism? I used to see stuff like that all the time. When I left I would put some other trash in my throwaway sack. Help Keep the place cleaner!

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    August 2020
  • From: Lakes Entrance, Victoria, Australia.
Posted by Dodgy on Monday, September 5, 2022 7:15 PM

Fantastic work on Cap'n Nemo's bus mate. Love those gator eyes.

Dodgy

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 5, 2022 8:22 PM

Dodgy

Fantastic work on Cap'n Nemo's bus mate. Love those gator eyes.

Dodgy

 

Thanks Ferg!

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:09 PM

Those photos look great to me Captain! Modern phone cameras are mostly 'idiot proof' even for an idiot as big as me. I'd go with trying to capture what the eye sees although I'm not good enough to adjust photos that much.

I have a 'Creature From the Black Lagoon' figure that I want to do all in greyscale since the movie was in B&W. Not sure when I'll get to it, should be an interesting challenge.

 

I finally got around to watching '20,000 Leagues' again over the weekend. Breakfast looks good but I'm reminded of Ned Land blanching as Nemo describes all the food at his table being various forms of sea life. I always found the scene a little weird, I mean Land is a sailor so he's used to eating fish ain't he? 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:41 PM

Gamera

I finally got around to watching '20,000 Leagues' again over the weekend. Breakfast looks good but I'm reminded of Ned Land blanching as Nemo describes all the food at his table being various forms of sea life. I always found the scene a little weird, I mean Land is a sailor so he's used to eating fish ain't he? 

 

Gam, that is funny you should say that because I had thought the same thing with that scene. Too funny. 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:25 PM

Life has been throwing some fast balls of late so progress is slow. As minimal as it is, here is what I accomplished:

To add color to the boat, I am making the chains and screw brass. I mentioned using Vallejo wash over Alclad brass. I tell ya, I absolutely love the effect it produces. The image below drops a lot of nuances and sadly, you don't see all the weathering. But...for what it is worth... here it is.

Speaking of color. I intend to paint the shutters brass. I think that is what Capn called them. You know, the domed structure TB was asking about? There are other structures on that portion of the deck too that look like some sort of cable reeler. They look like springs. Sorry guys, I am not a nautical expert. Some of you might have a better term and description of what they are. But ... what I am driving at is color. What do you guys think? Probably steel? Thoughts?

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:24 PM

Installed: Prop, chains, side (floods?)

I used an HDR function on my camera that seems to bring out more weathering detail and the color is a little closer to reality.

I thinki from here I start painting the deck structures.

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, September 8, 2022 4:40 PM

Bakster

Speaking of color. I intend to paint the shutters brass. I think that is what Capn called them. You know, the domed structure TB was asking about? There are other structures on that portion of the deck too that look like some sort of cable reeler. They look like springs. Sorry guys, I am not a nautical expert. Some of you might have a better term and description of what they are. But ... what I am driving at is color. What do you guys think? Probably steel? Thoughts?

"Shutters" suffices.  Brass would be good, but  mt reflex would be bronze with a copper or brass wash.

The doohicky at photo left is clearly meant to be a windlass o some sort.  It can be near any metallic color.

The "springs" might be coils of wire rope (might be).  Could be anything you want them to be.  I'm thinking an oily black with a silver or titanium wash.  Perhaps a clear brown oil wash over that (or greeen) to look like it had been submerged a few times.

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Thursday, September 8, 2022 7:50 PM

That latest round of pics are doing your work some justice, Steve. Good idea using the HDR. Really looking good. YesYes

-Greg

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