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Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 3, 2024 7:47 PM

Yeah the shadow box looks like a great idea to display the Chariot without having to deal with space dust. 

And a 3D rock will be much lighter saving wear and tear on your delicate back, the pain, THE PAIN! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, June 3, 2024 2:02 PM

Bakster
Power will be routed via an umbilcal to a battery box. It is like what I did with the Icarus.

Keep an eye out or USB "C" connectors.  The power options are good, and the cables are ubiquitous, and you can run the diorama from a phone charger, or a portable "power pack" (which could be handy on a competition table).

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 3, 2024 10:47 AM

mustang1989

Clean work on this so far Steve. The 3D printed rock idea sounds like a viable option but hear what you're saying on "extra steps". Will be watching for more on this one.......

 

Thanks, Joe!

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, June 3, 2024 4:53 AM

Clean work on this so far Steve. The 3D printed rock idea sounds like a viable option but hear what you're saying on "extra steps". Will be watching for more on this one.......

                   

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 2, 2024 3:51 PM

Todays work: I notched a hole in the base for a power connector. Power will be routed via an umbilcal to a battery box. It is like what I did with the Icarus.

Cool options are available for power where one can 3D print rocks or such that can house a 9 volt battery. Nice idea, but limited space and my lack of motivation has me going this route. It's a whole to do. I'd have to buy a file then probably pay someone to print it.

 

Below: I made a frame using Evergreen. Inside of the frame will be the terrain pad. I purchased Sculpey Air Dry Clay for this. I have not used this before, so, it is a potential boondoggle. Though, it should be a reversable boondoggle. I had watched a video where a person used it on a diorama and to good success. Worth a go.

And that is all for this weekend.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 2, 2024 3:19 PM

"The tight fit is distinctive, and a cool effect.  But, it does not leave a lot of room for canting the base a bit, as they often seemed to park on a slope in the series (but would also be a way to encourage people to see all the "inside" detailing through that enormous greenhouse"

Thanks, Capn. I agree. The smaller size will limit options for the diorama. When I weighed the pros and cons, I expect I can still hold to my original vision for the project. I try to avoid large dioramas because they are hard to display, and I have no room for that. This should fit in a glass case that I hope to purchase one day. If I make it to the finsh with this thing, I surely will want to display it.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, June 2, 2024 12:42 PM

Bakster

Here is what I purchased for the base/enclosure.

I did a fair amount of online searches, also stopped at two stores. This is the closest size I could find that trips my trigger, and is functional. I particularly like the small footprint.

More to come.

There's a "terrarium in a terrarium" sort of vibe there,  which will be cool.

Now, if only hoby shops still had the magenta & fushia-dyed lichen for that distinctly unworldly look.

The tight fit is distinctive, and a cool effect.  But, it does not leave a lot of room for canting the base a bit, as they often seemed to park on a slope in the series (but would also be a way to encourage people to see all the "inside" detailing through that enormous greenhouse.

Finding off-the-shelf answers will have its limitations, of course.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:59 AM

mustang1989

That's going to work out perfect Steve!! Yes

 

Hey Joe, thanks!  I agree!

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, June 2, 2024 7:37 AM

That's going to work out perfect Steve!! Yes

                   

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, June 1, 2024 5:04 PM

Here is what I purchased for the base/enclosure.

 

The undercarriage is taped on for these photos and not quite straight.

 

 

 

I did a fair amount of online searches, also stopped at two stores. This is the closest size I could find that trips my trigger, and is functional. I particularly like the small footprint. 

More to come.

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, May 31, 2024 3:57 PM

Yeah man. The project lives.

Thanks, Gam!

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, May 31, 2024 3:54 PM

PhoenixG

Bakster, the lighting is fabulous. Even if the camera is messing with the colors and intensity, the results are stunning. 

It's great to see pieces starting to come together.  We're getting a glimpse into the vision you've held in your head for the LIS Chariot.  All I can say is, worth waiting for.

You're on a roll man.  Keep it going!

 

 

Hey PG... it is good to see you back on the forum. Thanks for the nice comments and encouragement. It is much appreciated. I will keep at until I can't. With favor, this will get done!

I am currently researching what to buy for the base. I need to sort that out before I go too far with the tracks. More to come.

Great to see you around!

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, May 31, 2024 3:38 PM

mustang1989

Sometimes things just have a way of turning out and it looks like it did just that for you Steve. 

 Haven't been on here in a while to comment on the good work I'm seein' but it sure looks like you've got this one under control buddy.Yes

 

 

Hay-a Joe, thanks for chiming in. Yeah, making progress. 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, May 30, 2024 9:16 AM

Sometimes things just have a way of turning out and it looks like it did just that for you Steve. 

 Haven't been on here in a while to comment on the good work I'm seein' but it sure looks like you've got this one under control buddy.Yes

                   

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Posted by PhoenixG on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 6:50 PM

Bakster, the lighting is fabulous. Even if the camera is messing with the colors and intensity, the results are stunning. 

It's great to see pieces starting to come together.  We're getting a glimpse into the vision you've held in your head for the LIS Chariot.  All I can say is, worth waiting for.

You're on a roll man.  Keep it going!

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 11:17 PM

Sorry to hear about the issues Bakster but looks like you've got things under control! 

 

Captain: WOW, now those are hailballs! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 27, 2024 4:20 PM

Well, the optics are installed.  Quite the rats nest. I used UV resin to secure the optics into the light engines.

Side note: This project almost bit the big one. I glued the strands in place and one errant strand didn't make it into the light housing. Along with that, tension on one strand was pushing it back up into the terrain scanner housing. So, when I moved the housings around, it unseated the strand. Fortunately, UV resin was not as strong as epoxy would be. I could crack the resin off and start over. Had I used epoxy, this project would be over with. Also fortunate, with all the manhandling I did to break the strands free, I didnt break anything else. It was precarious but the project lives to see another day. Thank you, Lord.

I should note that the camera skews the colors terribly, and it blows out the detail. It skews the intensity as well. It looks far better in person. Also, I was gonna create a GIF showing how the blinking lights look. Well, a recent computer upgrade left me without software. Along with that, my camera is no longer supported by any available software. I could not pull the video file from the camera. Finding a new path for a GIF is a project for another day.

 



From here, I will probably move towards working on the tracks and the transmission assembly.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 27, 2024 3:54 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
Their own personal wave tank.

 

Ok, fist response was eaten by a 405 Forbidden Error.  Gee, thanks, Kalmbach.

That canal points near due East.  It's dredged to ten meters, 5.5 fathoms of wather depth.  The side walls are another 6-8 feet above that, to give a measure to how deep those swells are in the fetch off the Lake.

Was enough energy built up that the fetch was still breaking a day later, even without a gale blowing behind it.

 

I will be doing an update shortly. I hope the 405 doesn't come up.

 

Very interesting about that canal!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, May 27, 2024 1:03 PM

Bakster
Their own personal wave tank.

Ok, fist response was eaten by a 405 Forbidden Error.  Gee, thanks, Kalmbach.

That canal points near due East.  It's dredged to ten meters, 5.5 fathoms of wather depth.  The side walls are another 6-8 feet above that, to give a measure to how deep those swells are in the fetch off the Lake.

Was enough energy built up that the fetch was still breaking a day later, even without a gale blowing behind it.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 27, 2024 10:22 AM

That is fun to watch, Capn. Their own personal wave tank.

That hail is crazy.

 

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, May 25, 2024 11:56 AM

Gamera
And grapefruit sized hail!?!?! OMG!!!

As in:

Mind, the folk up at Duluth, north of Baxter are a touch nuts, too.

This is a dude jetskiing gale-force breakers in the Canal at a balmy 43°F (video is about 4x speed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz2nGEUoL4Q

Excellent weather for being in the basement working on a Chariot.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, May 24, 2024 8:51 PM

Looks good Bakster, she's coming along well! Yes

 

And grapefruit sized hail!?!?! OMG!!! 

I first read that as golfball sized Captain, which is scarey enough but GRAPEFRUIT!|?!?!?!?

Last hail we had was thankfully about pea sized... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, May 24, 2024 8:50 PM

Looks good Bakster, she's coming along well! Yes

 

And grapefruit sized hail!?!?! OMG!!! 

I first read that as golfball sized Captain, which is scarey enough for GRAPEFRUIT!|?!?!?!?

Last hail we had was thankfully about pea sized... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, May 24, 2024 6:14 PM

"Last week, locations only about an hour's drive NW of here had grapefruit size hail o_O"

 

I can't imagine it. Truly terrifying. 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, May 20, 2024 6:06 PM

Bakster
Some golf ball size hail, damaged many cars and homes. I lucked out with dime size hail.

Last week, locations only about an hour's drive NW of here had grapefruit size hail o_O

Couple of weeks ago, we has a short, but intense burst of hail while I was out driving, and I now have a starburst ding i nmy windshield.

We are scheduled for another bout of storms this w/e.  But, it may rain on me heading to Houston on Wednesday.

Tropical forecast has a lot of energy in it, but, it's snapped back into la niña and there's a huge cold current across the Pacific.  There's a correspnding forecast for over-warm air on the north side of the Atlantic Inter Tropical Convergence Zone.  But the steering current suggest against North American landfalls.

This model suggests a stron SW jet stream over the Great Lakes region (also a very strong "Roaring 40s" in the Indian Ocean.

Maybe we all need to Dr Smith the Jupiter II when it lanches in 2024 (per canon).  :)

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 20, 2024 4:24 PM

CapnMac82
with it. Was in Austin Wednesday & Thursday last week.  Coming back on Thursday hit bad weather between temple and Waco

Yeah the weather has been fairly violent. Two weeks back we had a small tornado near by but in the end the worst part was the hail. Some golf ball size hail, damaged many cars and homes. I lucked out with dime size hail.

 

CapnMac82
But, you have glue where you foodstuffs are, and finding that half tube in the crisper drawer later can be disconcerting.

Laughing. 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, May 19, 2024 5:44 PM

Bakster
PS: Some nasty weather in Texas. I hope you didn't get hit with it.

Was in Austin Wednesday & Thursday last week.  Coming back on Thursday hit bad weather between temple and Waco that was particularly awful, as in sheets of rain, visibility to 1/8 mile or less, and very gusty winds.  So, it was slow going on the interstate, perhaps 45 mph in some spots (and not much of the traffic bailed off, either).   Not a lot of fun when a gust would push the ride while the amount of rain on the road was right at the hydroplaning amount.  So, there would be some slipping, then the tires would grab again.  Not fun, and this lasted more than an hour of the three hour drive.  But, I survived.

But, it did make watching the gale force winds in Duluth all the more poignant.

Getting things to glue dow where they ought to is always "a thing."  And, yes, CA have the worst shelf life of all.  In storage or opened.  You can get some extra life out of opened CA by storing it in the fridge, as that's lower humidity.  But, you have glue where you foodstuffs are, and finding that half tube in the crisper drawer later can be disconcerting.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 19, 2024 4:47 PM

Delete.  Duplicate post.  Thank you 504 error that almost killed 40 minutes of posting work. Just glad it went through. 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 19, 2024 4:25 PM

Particularly when you get into larger diameter fiber, it can be difficult to route. That is especially true if you have tight bends, as this does. In this case, the optics must go through the elongated hole in the pan, and then go right angle.

So, I had to add some bends to relieve some pressure to them. I was able to do this by holding the optic above a hot soldering pencil, while bending the piece as it heats up. Once the optic reaches that melt point the tension releases and you can form it. Fortunately, no casualties in this process. I attribute the latter to a stable heat source of the iron. 

 

With that accomplished, I test fit, and then secured each optic from the bottom using UV resin.

And then this is where things went sideways. Guiding the optics through the hole while pressing the floor into place was not an easy task. I managed it, but the floor would not seat flat into the pan. So, I pulled it out, elongated the hole more, and tried it again. It was still a problem. It was here where I pressed on something I shouldn't have. I pushed through one side of my fabricated floor below the dash. Fortunately, I was able to repair it without too much cosmetic damage. And that is one of the pitfalls doing custom work like this. Space issues leading to fit issue.

So... pondering the problem, I noticed a nub in the pan that might be causing the issue. It was a piece of sprue leftover from my makeshift paint handle.  You can see it in the image above just aft of the elongated hole.

I ground down the nub and what do you know... it fell into place swimmingly. So well in fact, I don't need to glue it.




You can see above how it looks from the bottom with the pan installed. There is remaining tension with the optics, but it should be manageable. I did not want to overdue the bends. There is a point where if you bend too much it will teduce light output.

The orange piece is the transmission box and that is where the light drivers and optics will reside. It provides much room to work with. Which is nice.

 

Below: Sideview with the pan installed. And for fun...  notice how the optics light up with color from the bottom end. My workbench light is shining from above, through the painted ends, and down below. This made me decide to try lighting the optics from above using one of my fabricted led engines. I was pretty surprised at how well the light and color transmitted even from that side of things. 

I have learned something with this build and how optics work with paint. Years back I tried this method and the color looked weak and inconsistent. This lead me to believe that paint was not the answer, and that I needed to either use colored LEDs, or a colored film  between the light and the optic. This go around, it is a completely different story.

The only explanation I can think of is this: With this go, I dabbed paint on in a drop. I sort of domed the paint. So, I think this go, there was more paint. I think in the previous case I brushed it on in a thin layer. Anyway, a learning moment, and a learned thing that will simplify things for me in the future.

 

So, from here, it is time to start arranging the optics and of course, cut and polish the ends.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 19, 2024 10:23 AM

Tanker-Builder

Howdy:

       Speaking of C.A. I recently found out that it definitely has a shelf life. So I now just buy the small.05 gram "Gorilla Brand"

 

Howdy back, TB. The issue I have is I usually reach for the thin formula. I use that most. I'd love to buy a smaller container because the larger goes bad before I go through it.

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