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  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 19, 2024 4:47 PM

Delete.  Duplicate post.  Thank you 504 error that almost killed 40 minutes of posting work. Just glad it went through. 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 19, 2024 4:25 PM

Particularly when you get into larger diameter fiber, it can be difficult to route. That is especially true if you have tight bends, as this does. In this case, the optics must go through the elongated hole in the pan, and then go right angle.

So, I had to add some bends to relieve some pressure to them. I was able to do this by holding the optic above a hot soldering pencil, while bending the piece as it heats up. Once the optic reaches that melt point the tension releases and you can form it. Fortunately, no casualties in this process. I attribute the latter to a stable heat source of the iron. 

 

With that accomplished, I test fit, and then secured each optic from the bottom using UV resin.

And then this is where things went sideways. Guiding the optics through the hole while pressing the floor into place was not an easy task. I managed it, but the floor would not seat flat into the pan. So, I pulled it out, elongated the hole more, and tried it again. It was still a problem. It was here where I pressed on something I shouldn't have. I pushed through one side of my fabricated floor below the dash. Fortunately, I was able to repair it without too much cosmetic damage. And that is one of the pitfalls doing custom work like this. Space issues leading to fit issue.

So... pondering the problem, I noticed a nub in the pan that might be causing the issue. It was a piece of sprue leftover from my makeshift paint handle.  You can see it in the image above just aft of the elongated hole.

I ground down the nub and what do you know... it fell into place swimmingly. So well in fact, I don't need to glue it.




You can see above how it looks from the bottom with the pan installed. There is remaining tension with the optics, but it should be manageable. I did not want to overdue the bends. There is a point where if you bend too much it will teduce light output.

The orange piece is the transmission box and that is where the light drivers and optics will reside. It provides much room to work with. Which is nice.

 

Below: Sideview with the pan installed. And for fun...  notice how the optics light up with color from the bottom end. My workbench light is shining from above, through the painted ends, and down below. This made me decide to try lighting the optics from above using one of my fabricted led engines. I was pretty surprised at how well the light and color transmitted even from that side of things. 

I have learned something with this build and how optics work with paint. Years back I tried this method and the color looked weak and inconsistent. This lead me to believe that paint was not the answer, and that I needed to either use colored LEDs, or a colored film  between the light and the optic. This go around, it is a completely different story.

The only explanation I can think of is this: With this go, I dabbed paint on in a drop. I sort of domed the paint. So, I think this go, there was more paint. I think in the previous case I brushed it on in a thin layer. Anyway, a learning moment, and a learned thing that will simplify things for me in the future.

 

So, from here, it is time to start arranging the optics and of course, cut and polish the ends.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 19, 2024 10:23 AM

Tanker-Builder

Howdy:

       Speaking of C.A. I recently found out that it definitely has a shelf life. So I now just buy the small.05 gram "Gorilla Brand"

 

Howdy back, TB. The issue I have is I usually reach for the thin formula. I use that most. I'd love to buy a smaller container because the larger goes bad before I go through it.

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, May 19, 2024 6:48 AM

Howdy:

       Speaking of C.A. I recently found out that it definitely has a shelf life. So I now just buy the small.05 gram "Gorilla Brand"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 18, 2024 3:56 PM

Well, light driver work has begun and I am surprised. I tested using a cool white led to drive the fibers and I tell ya, they look great with the paint method I did. I then tried using colored LEDs and wow, it didn't knock my socks off. Hands down cool white won the test. An added bonus is any variations in paint color add to the effect. It kind of gives it an incandescent lightbulb look. Which, for the time, it fits. No images to show you, I need 4 hands to accomplish that. But... here is the evolution of my work today.

Soldering work...


The housings cut from Evergreen tubing. The housings secured to the led using UV curing resin. I at first tried CA and it was not holding well. I still need to get fresh CA. The stuff I have is BAD.




I made three of them figuring I will need that many to cram all the fibers into. Possibly, I will need a fourth, but I will wait to see. Two are cool white and one is a color changing led. I tested the color changing led and it gave a very interesting effect. So, I will select certain fibers to color change and the rest will remain solid.

Next step is to begin arranging and installing the fibers. Maybe tomorrows work.

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 18, 2024 3:22 PM

Gamera

Yeah those LEDs look great Bakster!!! Yes

 

Thanks Gam!

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 18, 2024 3:18 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
Next up is the mentioned test and construction of the led light drivers.

 

That's cool.

 

Yeah... progress. Thanks for chiming in.

PS: Some nasty weather in Texas. I hope you didn't get hit with it.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, May 17, 2024 7:00 PM

Yeah those LEDs look great Bakster!!! Yes

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, May 17, 2024 3:33 PM

Bakster
Next up is the mentioned test and construction of the led light drivers.

That's cool.

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, May 16, 2024 9:09 PM

Colored lenses are painted. The strands are not fully seated. I don't want capillary action smearing the base while the paint is wet.

The image does not do it justice. The colors are more vibrant and they pop. I had to underexpose the image so they don't blowout.

I have to say, I am impressed in how painting the showing ends does translate. If I wanted, I could use a plain white led to drive them and I think they would look good. I will test it. Though, I do expect using color matched leds will make the lenses more vibrant and color consistent. It will be interesting to see the outcome.

 

Next up is the mentioned test and construction of the led light drivers.

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 12, 2024 3:32 PM

So much for the bandwidth. This update errored out a few times.

 

So, life and motivation has kept me from the bench for several weeks now and I finnaly pushed through for some progress. I remade the optics I had to scrap before paint. Overall, an easy deal, just time.

From here I will assign colors and paint the ends like I did with the scanner. The kit dash is a far cry from the real Chariot. So... I will improvise to what looks good to me. After that...probably start work making the engines that drive the optics.

Side note: The craziness life can bring melts away when I am at the bench. It's just me and the model, the world and its problems disappear. It's the peace that keeps me coming back to it. Neither here nor there... just pondering it.

  • Member since
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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 12, 2024 1:30 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
Too funny. An add just came on the TV for the latest Apes movie. It's the franchise that never dies. Will I go see it? Nope.

 

The thing was panned on the Critical Drinker stream as being far too "meh" all over.  Also, a very long watch for not lettle gain.

Very strange to have FSM bandwidth back.

 

Yeah not surprised. The idea for modern day movies: Give them CGI, explosions, killings, and they shall come. Don't worry about the story. 

I miss the old days of a well written movie. There was a time, many years ago now, that I would go to the theater almost every weekend. They  entertained me with well crafted stories. Today, if I go once a year, I consider it a good year. Heck. And video rental, I rarely do that either for the same reason. Very sad. Feeling nostalgic again.

 

Yeah... bandwidth appears to be back. Let's hope it sticks. 

 

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, May 11, 2024 2:01 PM

Bakster
Too funny. An add just came on the TV for the latest Apes movie. It's the franchise that never dies. Will I go see it? Nope.

The thing was panned on the Critical Drinker stream as being far too "meh" all over.  Also, a very long watch for not lettle gain.

Very strange to have FSM bandwidth back.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 11, 2024 8:36 AM

GAF

"Planet of the Apes" - 1968.

"Cash Grab of the Planet of the Apes" - 2024

Gary

 

  Lol.  For sure. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

GAF
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  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Friday, May 10, 2024 9:39 PM

"Planet of the Apes" - 1968.

"Cash Grab of the Planet of the Apes" - 2024

Gary

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, May 10, 2024 7:22 PM

CapnMac82
You'd have to get into the existing line

Hehe. 

CapnMac82
Oh, this popped up in my YT feed and winds up very topical The fate of the Planet of the Apes Ship prop:

It was very good. Thanks for posting that.

 

I still wish someone would manufacture a commercially avaliable kit of it. 

Too funny. An add just came on the TV for the latest Apes movie. It's the franchise that never dies. Will I go see it? Nope. Wink

 

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, May 8, 2024 10:22 PM

Bakster
I won't hold it against you, Capn.

You'd have to get into the existing line Smile

Oh, this popped up in my YT feed and winds up very topical

The fate of the Planet of the Apes Ship prop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ5fB5FdrhM

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 6, 2024 10:35 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
. I have not been able to get on a few times the last few days. Today, very slow loading. The beat goes on.

 

Yes, I spoke far too soon, lulled by a couple of days of easy access.  Sigh.

 

I won't hold it against you, Capn. Wink

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 6, 2024 10:32 PM

Gamera

 Yeah BTW did I tell you Clapper got a job with tech support for the forum...

 

 

Oh man...that is priceless! I took a screencapture for posterity. Your best gag yet, Gam. Lol.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, May 6, 2024 10:15 PM

 Yeah BTW did I tell you Clapper got a job with tech support for the forum...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, May 6, 2024 6:09 PM

Bakster
. I have not been able to get on a few times the last few days. Today, very slow loading. The beat goes on.

Yes, I spoke far too soon, lulled by a couple of days of easy access.  Sigh.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 5, 2024 6:29 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
and this broken website

 

Which ate my pithy comment that the studio prop probably did not have room for the missiles either . . .

It appears to be working in the last few days, but, appearances can decieve-- like that gale Duluth just went through.

 

Unfortunately, the gales continue. I have not been able to get on a few times the last few days. Today, very slow loading. The beat goes on.

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, May 3, 2024 4:49 PM

Bakster
and this broken website

Which ate my pithy comment that the studio prop probably did not have room for the missiles either . . .

It appears to be working in the last few days, but, appearances can decieve-- like that gale Duluth just went through.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, May 2, 2024 6:19 PM

PhoenixG
I've heard that permature shutter trigger is a common malady...

Especially when you get older. Hehe

Stick out tongue

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, May 2, 2024 6:16 PM

Gamera
I often say when I'm fighting my airbrush- um, 'I could have been playing a computer game or watching a movie'.... (sigh)... Am I insane? I guess if I am we all are though... 

Buddy, so true. Sometimes anything seems better.

 

Gamera
Bakster: Knock-out job! That looks friggin' perfect! 

Thanks, Cliff. 

Life issues and this broken website is robbing me of my joy. Losing steam. Maybe, I should have built a steam engine.

Anyhow. Not throwing in the towel, just pacing myself. 

 

 

 

 

Right on, brother.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 17, 2024 8:58 PM

PhoenixG

 

 
Bakster
God help me. What possesses me to do these things. lol.

 

You do these things because they are what we as modelers ostentatiously label as "fun".  lol Big Smile

 

You can say that again... I often say when I'm fighting my airbrush- um, 'I could have been playing a computer game or watching a movie'.... (sigh)... Am I insane? I guess if I am we all are though... 

 

Bakster: Knock-out job! That looks friggin' perfect! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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    October 2021
Posted by PhoenixG on Wednesday, April 17, 2024 4:46 PM

Bakster

I expanded the entry and boom, the piece fit. I did not need to do any manipulation of the optics. Quite a nice surprise. 

The scanner is glued in. I used sprue-goo because it is thick. Thus, it allowed me to control where the glue goes. No capillary action to worry about with that stuff.

My finger. Premature camera trigger.

From here I will light-block internals of the scanner, then start remaking the rest of the optics.

 

That's great news!  I had a hiccup with my build.  I forgot to leave space for the hatch arms in the missile bays.  There's not enough room between the missiles and sidewalls for them.  Doh!

Thankfully it should also be an easy fix.

 

I've heard that permature shutter trigger is a common malady... Hmm

On the Bench:

Bandai Starblazers 2202 Garmillas Zoellugut

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 17, 2024 4:43 PM

PhoenixG

 

 
Bakster
God help me. What possesses me to do these things. lol.

 

You do these things because they are what we as modelers ostentatiously label as "fun".  lol Big Smile

 

Lol! A truer statement never made. Yes

  • Member since
    October 2021
Posted by PhoenixG on Wednesday, April 17, 2024 4:36 PM

Bakster
God help me. What possesses me to do these things. lol.

You do these things because they are what we as modelers ostentatiously label as "fun".  lol Big Smile

On the Bench:

Bandai Starblazers 2202 Garmillas Zoellugut

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 8:35 PM

I expanded the entry and boom, the piece fit. I did not need to do any manipulation of the optics. Quite a nice surprise. 

The scanner is glued in. I used sprue-goo because it is thick. Thus, it allowed me to control where the glue goes. No capillary action to worry about with that stuff.

My finger. Premature camera trigger.

From here I will light-block internals of the scanner, then start remaking the rest of the optics.

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