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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, April 15, 2024 10:26 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
What an amazing effect that one would not expect.

 

Old metal collander can replicate the effect (the crisp round holes improve the effect).

Best part is that it "works" for Partial (e.g. Annular) Eclispes (and is safer way to see those, too).

That sanner is looking better and better.  It really has a "60's" feel to it, a blend of musclecar and yet-to-gel steampunk.

 

Didn't think of colander. I bet that would be awesome!

Thanks Capn about the scanner. Fingers crossed nothing bad happens. This is going to be a bear to mount.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, April 15, 2024 7:03 PM

Bakster
What an amazing effect that one would not expect.

Old metal collander can replicate the effect (the crisp round holes improve the effect).

Best part is that it "works" for Partial (e.g. Annular) Eclispes (and is safer way to see those, too).

That sanner is looking better and better.  It really has a "60's" feel to it, a blend of musclecar and yet-to-gel steampunk.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 14, 2024 1:27 PM

Hey Capn, that is so cool. Glad you were able to experience it. I really love the pinhole effect off the trees too. What an amazing effect that one would not expect. 

Thanks for sharing that.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 14, 2024 1:21 PM

Finaly, nice weather in my neck of the woods. Near 80 today, sunny, blue skies. Hard to sit at the bench, but I managed an hour and a half.

I tested something months back that cements a new process for me. That is, I can paint the showing end of fiber optic using Tamiya clears and it does not seem to affect light gradient. It sort of surprised me because the inverse is true. I have tested painting the inward side using colored clears and I did not like the output. In the latter, the light and color gradient is a muddle. Pretty ugly, really. So, what is nice about this is that I can mimick colored lenses while in the off state. Otherwise, they'd show as transparent when not lit. 

Below: I re-inserted the optics but I left them unseated. This allows me to paint the ends rather easily. Once the paint cures, I will pull the optics flush and one by one tack them in place from the back. 

The camera did not do the colors justice. I used orange, red, green, and blue.To the human eye they look great, and correct. To the camera, the oranges look red and the greens look black. Hopefully I can make a more correct image down the road.

Btw. I must remake all the optics that go into the tub. I forgot that I had trouble pulling them out before paint. They kept snapping because I made the holes tight.  Fortunately, these are easy to make.  So, not a big deal. I had to remake two for the terrain scanner as well. 

End of update.

 

 

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, April 14, 2024 12:59 PM

Bakster
Capn... did you get to view the eclipse?

Yeah, it cleared up just enough to experience it.

best photo off the phone

It got seriously dark, as in the streetlights were on

Phone camera adjusted the gamma to lighten this significantly--note the light spill off to the left from the streelight.
This is how bright it was after Totality

Trees still "pinholed" after the fact:

Would have gotten more, but it clouded over again.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, April 13, 2024 3:29 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster

 

Well, that was a bit of a rabbit hole, as it led to a number of Forbidden Planet Deleted Scenes videos. 

And also a "What Happened to the Jupiter II?" too.

 

Lol. One thing leads to another. And another.

Capn... did you get to view the eclipse?

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, April 13, 2024 1:18 PM

Bakster

Well, that was a bit of a rabbit hole, as it led to a number of Forbidden Planet Deleted Scenes videos. 

And also a "What Happened to the Jupiter II?" too.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, April 12, 2024 10:05 PM

Hey. Some of you may remember my Icarus build. I just came across this crash scene that someone made. I think this would have been far better than the movie version. Check it out.

 

https://youtu.be/Bakh85JghtY?si=gdadP7NGAaWspp33

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, April 12, 2024 9:53 PM

PhoenixG
As for my collection of Viewmaster.  I spent a lot of time with the National Parks.  Redwood forests and Yellowstone.  My absolute favorite were the dinosaurs.  So cool to see them in 3D. Add Quote to your Post

Awesome! I would have liked those too! You know, I still have all  my viewer disks from young on. I even dabbled  putting a camera on a slide mount and made my own 3D images. I have loved 3D since childhood.

 

Fun stuff.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, April 12, 2024 9:44 PM

Thanks, Gam.

Oh I can see how fish would be cool. 3D effect should have been good!  Many years ago I viewed a 3D film attraction at Epcot in Fla. The effect was stunning. The best part was a fish and that I swear it looked like it was floating around the person's seat in front of me.

After seeing that i purchased a used Realist camera. I took images on several road trips. Fun stuff. 

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, April 12, 2024 6:42 PM

When I lived in SoCal the tanker desk was our earthquake go to Big Smile

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, April 12, 2024 5:25 PM

LOL, we've got some cabinets in the lab at work that would match that desk! Same good 'ol classic industrial look. 

I had a ViewMaster projector too but it's a later '80s model made out of plastic. My favorite reels were cool fish and undersea life. 

Bravo on the terrain scanner Bakster, she looks perfect! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, April 12, 2024 4:17 PM

keavdog
Ha! Like my steelcase tanker desk

There's a version in GSA Green out in the garage :-)

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Posted by PhoenixG on Friday, April 12, 2024 12:49 PM

Bakster
I loved the view master system. I liked the viewer most. Great toy for a young mind. Probably my favorite reels were of The great pyramids of Egypt and the Mexican Inca pyramids. Next to those, I think Peter Pan. Nasa reels were fun too. How about you? What were your favorites?

It would have been amazing to have the reels for the pyramids especially NASA.  I've always been fascinated by our space program.  I used to raid the second hand stores for anything in Nat Geo dealing with space.

As for my collection of Viewmaster.  I spent a lot of time with the National Parks.  Redwood forests and Yellowstone.  My absolute favorite were the dinosaurs.  So cool to see them in 3D.

On the Bench:

Bandai 1/72 Defender Destroid

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, April 11, 2024 7:46 PM

PhoenixG

The finish of the casing reminds me of that grey industrial enamel that was applied to everything in the 50's.  Pretty sure I have a Viewmaster projector in that exact color.  Unfortunately it needs a bulb and they stopped making them long, long ago.  Maybe a retrofit project after I get my queue cleared. :)

 

Ha!  Like my steelcase tanker desk

 

Thanks,

John

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:54 PM

PhoenixG

The finish of the casing reminds me of that grey industrial enamel that was applied to everything in the 50's.  Pretty sure I have a Viewmaster projector in that exact color.  Unfortunately it needs a bulb and they stopped making them long, long ago.  Maybe a retrofit project after I get my queue cleared. :)

 

Hey PG, that is a hoot. When I look at it it reminds me of an electrical box of some sort... cast iron.

 

Funny about the view master projector because I had one too. In my case, it was a beige color. I loved the view master system. I liked the viewer most. Great toy for a young mind. Probably my favorite reels were of The great pyramids of Egypt and the Mexican Inca pyramids. Next to those, I think Peter Pan. Nasa reels were fun too.

 

How about you? What were your favorites?

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Posted by PhoenixG on Thursday, April 11, 2024 1:37 PM

The finish of the casing reminds me of that grey industrial enamel that was applied to everything in the 50's.  Pretty sure I have a Viewmaster projector in that exact color.  Unfortunately it needs a bulb and they stopped making them long, long ago.  Maybe a retrofit project after I get my queue cleared. :)

On the Bench:

Bandai 1/72 Defender Destroid

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, April 9, 2024 10:53 PM

I realized I should finish detailing the terrain scanner before I move on. The scope is painted with Alclad chrome and the top right button MRP black.

 

And with that, I am officially moving to reinstall the fiber optics.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, April 9, 2024 10:39 PM

PhoenixG

*bug eyed look of surprise*

Gosh!

Bakster, the base of the LIS is stunning!  It's been a journey full of travails, but man.  Even incomplete it is a thing of beauty.

At first I thought the floor just had some unusual reflectance, but then I read about the dusting you gave the floor to represent foot traffic and it clicked.  I think it's great how you kept the area around the seat upright clear.  The few spaces where feet don't normally cross.  A beautifully subtle indication of foot traffic.

And the little greeblie was an inspired fix.  Who cares if Smith barks his shins on it every time the chariot hits a dip in the road!

 

Thanks for all that, PG. Really appreciate the kind words and the commentary!

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, April 9, 2024 10:35 PM

Gamera

That looks amazing Bakster!!! I agree with you, covering up the scuffed area makes a lot more sense than repainting everything. 

 

It was so cloudy today I'd never have even noticed the eclipse if I didn't know about it before hand. I did get to see it using my phone camera as viewer. Didn't get many photos considering how overcast it was. 

 

 

Hey Gam, thanks.

 

It was a clear day here. We lucked out. It was cool to see but it would have been better if I was further south. I think our area was at about 80%.

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Posted by PhoenixG on Tuesday, April 9, 2024 5:08 PM

*bug eyed look of surprise*

Gosh!

Bakster, the base of the LIS is stunning!  It's been a journey full of travails, but man.  Even incomplete it is a thing of beauty.

At first I thought the floor just had some unusual reflectance, but then I read about the dusting you gave the floor to represent foot traffic and it clicked.  I think it's great how you kept the area around the seat upright clear.  The few spaces where feet don't normally cross.  A beautifully subtle indication of foot traffic.

And the little greeblie was an inspired fix.  Who cares if Smith barks his shins on it every time the chariot hits a dip in the road!

On the Bench:

Bandai 1/72 Defender Destroid

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 8, 2024 10:59 PM

That looks amazing Bakster!!! I agree with you, covering up the scuffed area makes a lot more sense than repainting everything. 

 

It was so cloudy today I'd never have even noticed the eclipse if I didn't know about it before hand. I did get to see it using my phone camera as viewer. Didn't get many photos considering how overcast it was. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 7, 2024 2:55 PM

Greeblie painted.

Position of the unit and that chair will limit leg comfort but I am assigning Smith to that chair. Really not an issue then. Wink

I glued it down using sprue-goo. It offered me the least danger of smearing, if I am careful, and a decent amount of time to position it.

That is all for this side of the eclipse.

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 7, 2024 11:17 AM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
Hope to have an update this weekend.

 

Well, storms ought to preclude all the eclipse silliness on Monday

Will be a bunch of disappointed people who traveled long (just not interstellar) distances for the event.  :-)

 

Yeah big (?) who if any will see it.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, April 6, 2024 2:21 PM

Alas... a personal milestone has been reached. For months now my goal was to reach this point. It was a serious fight. Paint problems lead to stripping the piece no less than three times, all the while knowing that with each restart the integrity of the piece wanes. If there was a silver lining in this it is that adjustments to body filler were made with each redo. The final result is much better than my first go. I think that some of the filler had shrunk back and with each redo, adjustments were made.

The goal here was to have certain sections appearing in a stainless and/or polished aluminum. For me, this is a delicate and daunting process because of all the masking going on, and a clean finish could be elusive due to the delicate nature of the process. Along with that, the area must be flawlessly smooth. To tell you the truth... I was not sure I could pull it off, or at least, to the standard I held in my minds eye.

The goal was crystal clear to me and I am happy to say, mission accomplished. It came out exactly how I visualized it. Yea. A major battle won, but more to come.

But with every victory, there are casualities. I was 90% through demasking, thinking so far so good, when paint pulled up between the two aft seat posts. Ugh. It never fails. So near victory when the enemy strikes. 




So, what to do. I am not repainting that section. That would be too much work and too much risk I'd make things worse. The easiest solution is to cover it with a greeblie.  

And it is a greeblie we shall go. I dug through my scrap box and found something that I think will do the job well. More on that in the next update.

Some last comments.

1. The side benches with black tops mimic cushions as found on the replica. I added a layer of semigloss to tone down the gloss and to help blend the overall appearance.

2. I dusted on soiling around the seating positions by mixing a custom blend of color. I also added some weathering powder and that really seems to give it more dimension. Though, it is lost in the images.

Once I finish the greeblie, I am heading towards reinstalling the fiberoptic and building the light-engines that drive them. I am looking forward to it. It feels like forward progress. 

End of update.

 

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, April 6, 2024 2:03 PM

Bakster
Hope to have an update this weekend.

Well, storms ought to preclude all the eclipse silliness on Monday

Will be a bunch of disappointed people who traveled long (just not interstellar) distances for the event.  :-)

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, April 4, 2024 5:04 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
If I make it that far shall ponder.

 

One of the key features of Science Fiction is the "science" :-)

And, sometimes that's tricky.

There's valid reasons to not include Time Dialation due to Relativity in fiction.  Mostly, because it's "messy."

At 0.75C 6.67 years of "flight time" spans 10 years "on the ground."  At 0.9C, 22 weeks "flying" is an entire year "groundside."

This only gets worse at supra-light speeds.  Technically speaking, a single "5 year mission" of the NCC-1701 Enterprise, ought see Star Fleet Headquarters age fifty or more years.

At face value, that ought to be very handy for serial tv show runners.  They would never need to have "returning" characters at ground-based HQ facilities.  (And, for my 2¢, it wuld give the shows a good reason to hire older actors, too.)

 

 

Lol.  I like your thinking. I should apply your time dialation theory to this build because I feel much older since I started it. Surprise

 

Side note. Work progresses on the chariot. Hope to have an update this weekend.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, April 4, 2024 1:41 PM

Bakster
If I make it that far shall ponder.

One of the key features of Science Fiction is the "science" :-)

And, sometimes that's tricky.

There's valid reasons to not include Time Dialation due to Relativity in fiction.  Mostly, because it's "messy."

At 0.75C 6.67 years of "flight time" spans 10 years "on the ground."  At 0.9C, 22 weeks "flying" is an entire year "groundside."

This only gets worse at supra-light speeds.  Technically speaking, a single "5 year mission" of the NCC-1701 Enterprise, ought see Star Fleet Headquarters age fifty or more years.

At face value, that ought to be very handy for serial tv show runners.  They would never need to have "returning" characters at ground-based HQ facilities.  (And, for my 2¢, it wuld give the shows a good reason to hire older actors, too.)

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 3, 2024 6:31 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
Very interesting thought there, Capn.

 

And, it's something that has nagged at the back of my head just from seeing all the WWI "Lozenge camo" colors on a Tamiya paint chart.

That, just what sort of a place would need lavender and yellow and violet camo.

Then, a person watches Forbidden Planet, which has red leaved foilage.

Chemistry offers some interesting notions, too.  A sulfur-based, rather than carbon-based world would have yellow and orange soils.  Whatever stood in for chlorophyl would be purple or violet, or perhaps red, stop sign red.  Rocks could be a kelly green sort of hue.

It would be hard to paint, as all of our reflexes would be to our sorts of colors of "dirt" or "vegetation" and the like.

 

 

Interesting thoughts. If I make it that far shall ponder.

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 3, 2024 6:26 PM

 

 

Well then, we are doomed. 

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