Bakster

If I make it that far shall ponder.

One of the key features of Science Fiction is the "science" :-)

And, sometimes that's tricky.

There's valid reasons to not include Time Dialation due to Relativity in fiction.  Mostly, because it's "messy."

At 0.75C 6.67 years of "flight time" spans 10 years "on the ground."  At 0.9C, 22 weeks "flying" is an entire year "groundside."

This only gets worse at supra-light speeds.  Technically speaking, a single "5 year mission" of the NCC-1701 Enterprise, ought see Star Fleet Headquarters age fifty or more years.

At face value, that ought to be very handy for serial tv show runners.  They would never need to have "returning" characters at ground-based HQ facilities.  (And, for my 2¢, it wuld give the shows a good reason to hire older actors, too.)

CapnMac82

 

 

Bakster

Very interesting thought there, Capn.

 

 

And, it's something that has nagged at the back of my head just from seeing all the WWI "Lozenge camo" colors on a Tamiya paint chart.

That, just what sort of a place would need lavender and yellow and violet camo.

Then, a person watches Forbidden Planet, which has red leaved foilage.

Chemistry offers some interesting notions, too.  A sulfur-based, rather than carbon-based world would have yellow and orange soils.  Whatever stood in for chlorophyl would be purple or violet, or perhaps red, stop sign red.  Rocks could be a kelly green sort of hue.

It would be hard to paint, as all of our reflexes would be to our sorts of colors of "dirt" or "vegetation" and the like.

 

Interesting thoughts. If I make it that far shall ponder.

Well then, we are doomed. 

Gamera

Hopefully you'll get some time before too long.

December, like as not.  Just too many projects all at the same time.

THis popped up on my f/b today, and seemed appropriate

Hope all you guys had a great Easter! 

I like the idea of using the odd colours, it does really give an 'unearthly' feeling to anything. At least better than the Trek episodes where they stuck pink feathers in trees to give an alien look to the set. 

I ain't messing with no Preditor Bakster. If I see a shimmering in the air I'm walking the other way.... 

Capt: Sorry about your vacation. I just took a week off here myself. Didn't go anywhere. But I needed it. Hopefully you'll get some time before too long. 

Bakster

Very interesting thought there, Capn.

And, it's something that has nagged at the back of my head just from seeing all the WWI "Lozenge camo" colors on a Tamiya paint chart.

That, just what sort of a place would need lavender and yellow and violet camo.

Then, a person watches Forbidden Planet, which has red leaved foilage.

Chemistry offers some interesting notions, too.  A sulfur-based, rather than carbon-based world would have yellow and orange soils.  Whatever stood in for chlorophyl would be purple or violet, or perhaps red, stop sign red.  Rocks could be a kelly green sort of hue.

It would be hard to paint, as all of our reflexes would be to our sorts of colors of "dirt" or "vegetation" and the like.

CapnMac82

 

 

Bakster

These strange worlds are dusty.

 

 

Now. see, I always thought that would be a good use for all those pastels chalks the never seemed to get used--the periwinkle, lavender, magenta, and the like.

Mind, that might want having a small vignette base with some lime green or day-glo lichen, perhaps similar colored seafoam . . .

Having to include the other-worldly pallete to viausally 'explain' things.

 

Hmmm.  Very interesting thought there, Capn. I like it. I will keep that stored for possible use later. 

Gamera

Better than my week is going. I took Clapper to the opera....... 

Lol. Clapper has a way of ruining a goood evening.

One time I took Clapper to see the movie, Planet of the Apes.  The movie didn't interest him much so he threw peanuts at other patrons. One guy comes up to us, pissed, and he says, who's the funny guy throwing peanuts?

I point at Clapper.  

"The guy goes, Oh...the ape."

I says, yeah. What can you expect from an ape!

The dude walked away.

Gamera

Yeah, that looks great Bakster! All your worry and the results turned out really nice! 

Thanks man. Btw. I often say stupid stuff and saying I am terrified about demasking chairs, well, that was a gross exaggeration. I should have said, concerned. That would have been a better word. Terrified over plastic chairs, um, no.

Speaking of teriffied. Meeting this guy in a desolate forrest would be terrifying. Before I'd know it, my spine is hanging from a tree limb just low enough for a Bigfoot to gnaw on later.

And that completes the grand circle of stupid. Hehe. 

Gamera

Better than my week is going

I'd offer to trade you, but I like you more than that.

Work decided that various client-caused disasters were more important than my vacation, the only one I get before December.

Sigh.

Bakster

These strange worlds are dusty.

Now. see, I always thought that would be a good use for all those pastels chalks the never seemed to get used--the periwinkle, lavender, magenta, and the like.

Mind, that might want having a small vignette base with some lime green or day-glo lichen, perhaps similar colored seafoam . . .

Having to include the other-worldly pallete to viausally 'explain' things.

Yeah, that looks great Bakster! All your worry and the results turned out really nice! 

Better than my week is going. I took Clapper to the opera....... 

PhoenixG

Your prep work and the MRP made for a beautiful lifelike finish.  If it weren't for the alligator clips It would be easy to believe they were full scale chairs.  Great work!

 

Hey thanks, PG!

Your prep work and the MRP made for a beautiful lifelike finish.  If it weren't for the alligator clips It would be easy to believe they were full scale chairs.  Great work!

Okay... giddy up. This build gets to pass GO and see another day. The result is not perfect, never is, but good enough for me. There was some minor crumbling in one or two spots but you'd need eagle eyes to see it.

From here and with the next step, I get to breath easier. I will paint the floor.  And with that, I am not looking for near perfection. I will intentionally soil it because Smith doesn't wipe his feet at the chariot door. These strange worlds are dusty. I'd like to get that done by this weekend. We shall see. 

CapnMac82

 

 

Bakster

Will wait until tomorrow to find out.

Later...

 

 

 

 

Look perfect right now :-)

 

Lol. Quit while you are ahead. I like you're thinking. 

That goes with my motto, If at first you don't succeed, QUIT! 

Bakster

Will wait until tomorrow to find out.

Later...

 

Look perfect right now :-)

Because I have nothing else, I'll bore you with the mundane. Orange is applied. The paint is MRP lacquer. This was followed with a coat of MRP Clear Gloss.

I spent a lot of time applying it in light coats. I didn't want to flood it exasperating paint creep. There are tight spots in there too and getting paint in them means getting close. And that leads to flooding, and again, leading to paint creep.

Overall, I am pleased with how it looks and how it laid down. But, I am terrified to pull the masking. Adding the liquid mask is great for strengthening the tape but, it cuts against you when pulling it because at times it pulls the mask in one big sheet. And that goes against being able to control the direction of the pull.

Only if my luck changes will it come out tight. With this being a lacquer, and my extra effort to make a good seal, I am hoping the paint won't fracture like acrylic does. Creep can be fixed but fracturing, not so esay. 

Will wait until tomorrow to find out.

Later...

Btw. I wonder how it would look if you'd build the Jupiter interior as per Capns image, and instead of building a 3D backdrop, use a 2d photo. Maybe have sculpted terrain that strategically leads to the photo, merging the two. Honestly, at least for me, that'd be the only way I could pull it off to any sort of realism. And it would sure simplify the project.

"LOL.  It's a credit to Bakster's masking and painting that we thought it was intentional."

Laughing. Yeah, or maybe it was Gams blob that soiled my seats with its oozing pustules.

"Reading the PotA ideas got me seeing a similar diorama except with the chariot and Dr. Robinson kneeling in front of it pulling the Charlton Heston pose on the beach and the robot standing next to him. "

PG....I really like your thinking on that. How cool would that be. Though, I might replace the Robot with a Nova type charactor. Perhaps, Judy. What can I say. Capn started it with the dubious reputations thing. Lol.  

But seriously. That is an epic idea and its next level. I love the idea. I'd love it even more if someone-else would build it. Then, I could rest and just watch it come togehter. I am gonna let the idea ferment. You two guys may have planted a seed today.

Gamera

Yeah, weird uphostering!!! Mebbe Debbie The Blop shedded everywhere!!! 

 

And frankly if you did the 'Night to Remember' option I'd have left Smith on the Titanic. I mean he wanted to get back to Earth- and now you're back on Earth you @##@#@@!!!! 

 

Lol. You guys crack me up.

Yeah, weird uphostering!!! Mebbe Debbie The Blop shedded everywhere!!! 

And frankly if you did the 'Night to Remember' option I'd have left Smith on the Titanic. I mean he wanted to get back to Earth- and now you're back on Earth you @##@#@@!!!! 

CapnMac82

I had to look twice to see the masking, it was looking like a perverse upholstery :-)

LOL.  It's a credit to Bakster's masking and painting that we thought it was intentional.

Reading the PotA ideas got me seeing a similar diorama except with the chariot and Dr. Robinson kneeling in front of it pulling the Charlton Heston pose on the beach and the robot standing next to him.

CapnMac82

 

 

Bakster

Well, winter still hanging on here. Cold and a light snow.

 

 

Yeah, the weather at Duluth did not lok very appealing yesterday.  Blowing a gale with snow and all of 30°F

It's 63°F and cloudy here in DFW as we've had a minor cold front wash though.

 

Yeah. Not much better today. Rain, cold, gloom. What happened to our unseasonably warm weather!

63! You must be freezing. 

CapnMac82

I had to look twice to see the masking, it was looking like a perverse upholstery :-)

Laughing because I thought the same thing.  Like some sort of nasty wool seatcover. Hehe. Hey... might keep them warm on them cold planetary nights.

CapnMac82

It takes time.  And time better spent than hanging around bars or wimmins of dubious reputations

Also, laughing. And so true. Though, I do and must take an occasional night out for a good meal and drink. Kind of cuts into my benchtime, though. 

Bakster

May not seem like much but hours of work in this.

I had to look twice to see the masking, it was looking like a perverse upholstery :-)

All the best masking takes minutes for seconds of painting.  Or hours for minutes. 

It takes time.  And time better spent than hanging around bars or wimmins of dubious reputations. 

Bakster

Well, winter still hanging on here. Cold and a light snow.

Yeah, the weather at Duluth did not lok very appealing yesterday.  Blowing a gale with snow and all of 30°F

It's 63°F and cloudy here in DFW as we've had a minor cold front wash though.

Slow, but still working on this. Initialy, I had an issue masking because the 1/8" vinyl tape I have ended up being too wide for the job. It didnt like corners and such. The Tamiya tape I have ended up being even worse. It just would not stick well. I sat there pondering the situation probably a good 15 minutes when it struck me to cut the vinyl length wise using a sharp blade. I was able to reduce the width substantially. I tried a piece and boom, it worked much better.

So, I trimmed out the cushions using vinyl and filled gaps using Tamiya tape. To make sure the tape didn't lift up on me, or allow any gaps, I applied masking solution to hold things in place.

I have two more chairs to finish and I might get them done by tonight. Hopefully, I get orange paint on the seat frame sometime this week. Then, fingers crossed, demasking goes well.

May not seem like much but hours of work in this.

Thats all folks.

CapnMac82

 

 

Bakster

Hey Capn, I just had a thought. What I think would be really cool is to build this scene into a shadow box

 

 

I had a similar idea at the time.  I have to admit to not being familiar enough with the various Jupiter kits, to know if one could be a suitable donor to start from.

I recall several full-interior builds, both here at FSM and elsewhere, so, it's possible to super detail things.

Now, if the 3d files were available, it might be cool to build the thing to replicate a studio set.  So, having the front half only would "make sense" at first glance.  The PotA backdrop could then be stood up "flat" in front, to "sell" the thing, too.

A twist on the notion of a traditional shadow box, too.

 

Your studio idea is an interesting one. Lou at Aztec Dummies did a studio mock-up using a Star Trek shuttlecraft. He 3D printed lights, scaffolding, cameras, chairs, ect. Basically, turned the scene into a studio mock-up. It was pretty creative.

Well, winter still hanging on here. Cold and a light snow. Spring is surely near because birds are very active and in great numbers.

CapnMac82

Turns out there's am LiS group on facebook. 

Here's the image when said group was suggested to me:

Based on a fictional return to Earth, in 2024, 27 years after their 1997 departure.

 

Smiling. Sounds cool!

Turns out there's am LiS group on facebook. 

Here's the image when said group was suggested to me:

Based on a fictional return to Earth, in 2024, 27 years after their 1997 departure.