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Posted by Gamera on Friday, March 29, 2024 8:40 PM

Yeah, that looks great Bakster! All your worry and the results turned out really nice! Yes

 

Better than my week is going. I took Clapper to the opera....... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, March 28, 2024 11:17 AM

PhoenixG

Your prep work and the MRP made for a beautiful lifelike finish.  If it weren't for the alligator clips It would be easy to believe they were full scale chairs.  Great work!

 

Hey thanks, PG!

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Posted by PhoenixG on Thursday, March 28, 2024 1:31 AM

Your prep work and the MRP made for a beautiful lifelike finish.  If it weren't for the alligator clips It would be easy to believe they were full scale chairs.  Great work!

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, March 27, 2024 9:49 PM

Okay... giddy up. This build gets to pass GO and see another day. The result is not perfect, never is, but good enough for me. There was some minor crumbling in one or two spots but you'd need eagle eyes to see it.

From here and with the next step, I get to breath easier. I will paint the floor.  And with that, I am not looking for near perfection. I will intentionally soil it because Smith doesn't wipe his feet at the chariot door. These strange worlds are dusty. I'd like to get that done by this weekend. We shall see. 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, March 27, 2024 1:23 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster

Will wait until tomorrow to find out.

Later...

 

 

 

Look perfect right now :-)

 

 

Lol. Quit while you are ahead. I like you're thinking. 

 

That goes with my motto, If at first you don't succeed, QUIT! Stick out tongue

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, March 27, 2024 11:22 AM

Bakster

Will wait until tomorrow to find out.

Later...

 

Look perfect right now :-)

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, March 26, 2024 11:04 PM

Because I have nothing else, I'll bore you with the mundane. Orange is applied. The paint is MRP lacquer. This was followed with a coat of MRP Clear Gloss.

I spent a lot of time applying it in light coats. I didn't want to flood it exasperating paint creep. There are tight spots in there too and getting paint in them means getting close. And that leads to flooding, and again, leading to paint creep.

Overall, I am pleased with how it looks and how it laid down. But, I am terrified to pull the masking. Adding the liquid mask is great for strengthening the tape but, it cuts against you when pulling it because at times it pulls the mask in one big sheet. And that goes against being able to control the direction of the pull.

Only if my luck changes will it come out tight. With this being a lacquer, and my extra effort to make a good seal, I am hoping the paint won't fracture like acrylic does. Creep can be fixed but fracturing, not so esay. 

Will wait until tomorrow to find out.

Later...

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, March 26, 2024 12:07 AM

Btw. I wonder how it would look if you'd build the Jupiter interior as per Capns image, and instead of building a 3D backdrop, use a 2d photo. Maybe have sculpted terrain that strategically leads to the photo, merging the two. Honestly, at least for me, that'd be the only way I could pull it off to any sort of realism. And it would sure simplify the project.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, March 25, 2024 11:33 PM

"LOL.  It's a credit to Bakster's masking and painting that we thought it was intentional."

Laughing. Yeah, or maybe it was Gams blob that soiled my seats with its oozing pustules.


"Reading the PotA ideas got me seeing a similar diorama except with the chariot and Dr. Robinson kneeling in front of it pulling the Charlton Heston pose on the beach and the robot standing next to him. Big Smile"


PG....I really like your thinking on that. How cool would that be. Though, I might replace the Robot with a Nova type charactor. Perhaps, Judy. What can I say. Capn started it with the dubious reputations thing. Lol.  

But seriously. That is an epic idea and its next level. I love the idea. I'd love it even more if someone-else would build it. Then, I could rest and just watch it come togehter. I am gonna let the idea ferment. You two guys may have planted a seed today.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, March 25, 2024 11:13 PM

Gamera

Yeah, weird uphostering!!! Mebbe Debbie The Blop shedded everywhere!!! 

 

And frankly if you did the 'Night to Remember' option I'd have left Smith on the Titanic. I mean he wanted to get back to Earth- and now you're back on Earth you @##@#@@!!!! 

 

Lol. You guys crack me up.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, March 25, 2024 8:03 PM

Yeah, weird uphostering!!! Mebbe Debbie The Blop shedded everywhere!!! 

 

And frankly if you did the 'Night to Remember' option I'd have left Smith on the Titanic. I mean he wanted to get back to Earth- and now you're back on Earth you @##@#@@!!!! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Monday, March 25, 2024 4:19 PM

CapnMac82
I had to look twice to see the masking, it was looking like a perverse upholstery :-)

LOL.  It's a credit to Bakster's masking and painting that we thought it was intentional.

Reading the PotA ideas got me seeing a similar diorama except with the chariot and Dr. Robinson kneeling in front of it pulling the Charlton Heston pose on the beach and the robot standing next to him. Big Smile

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, March 25, 2024 2:53 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
Well, winter still hanging on here. Cold and a light snow.

 

Yeah, the weather at Duluth did not lok very appealing yesterday.  Blowing a gale with snow and all of 30°F

It's 63°F and cloudy here in DFW as we've had a minor cold front wash though.

 

Yeah. Not much better today. Rain, cold, gloom. What happened to our unseasonably warm weather!

 

63! You must be freezing. Wink

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, March 25, 2024 2:50 PM

CapnMac82
I had to look twice to see the masking, it was looking like a perverse upholstery :-)

 

Laughing because I thought the same thing.  Like some sort of nasty wool seatcover. Hehe. Hey... might keep them warm on them cold planetary nights.

 

CapnMac82
It takes time.  And time better spent than hanging around bars or wimmins of dubious reputations

Also, laughing. And so true. Though, I do and must take an occasional night out for a good meal and drink. Kind of cuts into my benchtime, though. 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, March 25, 2024 12:49 PM

Bakster

May not seem like much but hours of work in this.

I had to look twice to see the masking, it was looking like a perverse upholstery :-)

All the best masking takes minutes for seconds of painting.  Or hours for minutes. 

It takes time.  And time better spent than hanging around bars or wimmins of dubious reputations. 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, March 25, 2024 12:45 PM

Bakster
Well, winter still hanging on here. Cold and a light snow.

Yeah, the weather at Duluth did not lok very appealing yesterday.  Blowing a gale with snow and all of 30°F

It's 63°F and cloudy here in DFW as we've had a minor cold front wash though.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 24, 2024 3:30 PM

Slow, but still working on this. Initialy, I had an issue masking because the 1/8" vinyl tape I have ended up being too wide for the job. It didnt like corners and such. The Tamiya tape I have ended up being even worse. It just would not stick well. I sat there pondering the situation probably a good 15 minutes when it struck me to cut the vinyl length wise using a sharp blade. I was able to reduce the width substantially. I tried a piece and boom, it worked much better.

So, I trimmed out the cushions using vinyl and filled gaps using Tamiya tape. To make sure the tape didn't lift up on me, or allow any gaps, I applied masking solution to hold things in place.

I have two more chairs to finish and I might get them done by tonight. Hopefully, I get orange paint on the seat frame sometime this week. Then, fingers crossed, demasking goes well.

May not seem like much but hours of work in this.

Thats all folks.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 24, 2024 3:11 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
Hey Capn, I just had a thought. What I think would be really cool is to build this scene into a shadow box

 

I had a similar idea at the time.  I have to admit to not being familiar enough with the various Jupiter kits, to know if one could be a suitable donor to start from.

I recall several full-interior builds, both here at FSM and elsewhere, so, it's possible to super detail things.

Now, if the 3d files were available, it might be cool to build the thing to replicate a studio set.  So, having the front half only would "make sense" at first glance.  The PotA backdrop could then be stood up "flat" in front, to "sell" the thing, too.

A twist on the notion of a traditional shadow box, too.

 

Your studio idea is an interesting one. Lou at Aztec Dummies did a studio mock-up using a Star Trek shuttlecraft. He 3D printed lights, scaffolding, cameras, chairs, ect. Basically, turned the scene into a studio mock-up. It was pretty creative.

 

Well, winter still hanging on here. Cold and a light snow. Spring is surely near because birds are very active and in great numbers.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 24, 2024 3:00 PM

CapnMac82

Turns out there's am LiS group on facebook. 

Here's the image when said group was suggested to me:

Based on a fictional return to Earth, in 2024, 27 years after their 1997 departure.

 

 

Smiling. Sounds cool!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, March 23, 2024 5:11 PM

Turns out there's am LiS group on facebook. 

Here's the image when said group was suggested to me:

Based on a fictional return to Earth, in 2024, 27 years after their 1997 departure.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, March 22, 2024 1:42 PM

Bakster
Hey Capn, I just had a thought. What I think would be really cool is to build this scene into a shadow box

I had a similar idea at the time.  I have to admit to not being familiar enough with the various Jupiter kits, to know if one could be a suitable donor to start from.

I recall several full-interior builds, both here at FSM and elsewhere, so, it's possible to super detail things.

Now, if the 3d files were available, it might be cool to build the thing to replicate a studio set.  So, having the front half only would "make sense" at first glance.  The PotA backdrop could then be stood up "flat" in front, to "sell" the thing, too.

A twist on the notion of a traditional shadow box, too.

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, March 21, 2024 10:05 AM

Hey Capn, I just had a thought. What I think would be really cool is to build this scene into a shadow box. Years back FSM had a short article where a person shadow boxed the sinking Titanic. I thought that was the coolest thing, and I still do. Image below.

That is just awseome to me. I don't know if the above is like this, but my vision would be a shoebox sort of shadow box where it is entirely enclosed, with a viewing port on one end. Of course, it would be bigger than a shoebox. You mentioned the Jupiter kit and I have seen some builds with all the control panels lighted like the real thing. You build half the Jupiter. I think this would be a fun project.

Now... someone get building it! Lol.

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, March 20, 2024 3:13 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
LIS meets POTAs. I like it!

 

There's a reasonably good kit of the Juipter II, with all manner of cool acessories available.

Tough part would be finding a suitable Statue of Liberty for the diorama :-)

 

Probably an easy task with a 3d printer. Guessing, someone has a file out there. A challenge for someone up to the task!

Cool idea, Capn. As Jim Carrey would say, I like it a lot!

 

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, March 20, 2024 11:00 AM

Bakster
LIS meets POTAs. I like it!

There's a reasonably good kit of the Juipter II, with all manner of cool acessories available.

Tough part would be finding a suitable Statue of Liberty for the diorama :-)

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, March 19, 2024 7:21 PM

CapnMac82
For our Bakster:

Hey Capn, how cool would that be. What a fun idea. LIS meets POTAs. I like it!

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, March 19, 2024 7:03 PM

CapnMac82
For our Bakster:

Hey Capn, how cool would that be. What a fun idea. LIS meets POTAs. I like it!

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, March 19, 2024 6:56 PM

Gamera
Well, if I were climbing Everest they'd find my clothes and belongings in a giant pile of Yeti poop...  'I found the Yeti! Then it ate me...'

That is a hoot, Gam. You know that early explorers found tracks up there. 

 

Gamera
Thanks for the 'LiS' video Bakster, it's interesting there how Harris became a 'guest star' on every single episode. I may have said it before but if they had stuck with the more serious theme of the first season I'd have liked it more but I'm not sure it would have lasted for more than one or two seasons. 

You are probably right. The good ones didn't last long.

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, March 18, 2024 8:45 PM

Well, if I were climbing Everest they'd find my clothes and belongings in a giant pile of Yeti poop... 

'I found the Yeti! Then it ate me...'

 

Thanks for the 'LiS' video Bakster, it's interesting there how Harris became a 'guest star' on every single episode. I may have said it before but if they had stuck with the more serious theme of the first season I'd have liked it more but I'm not sure it would have lasted for more than one or two seasons. 

Sorry to hear about Drake's passing. I've had bouts when I read a lot of military SF but I like stuff about exploration more. Guess I've read about a half dozen of Drake's Slammers and other works, try them Phoenix I think you'll like them. I get a bit bored with military SF because it always seems the same thing- a small group of good guys in some desparate fight against a huge bunch of bad guys. 

 

 

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, March 18, 2024 6:39 PM

For our Bakster:

PhoenixG
I never picked up any of the series though

H'wood optioned Hammer's Slammers a long time ago (per David Drake) and has kept the IP shelved for no obvious reason. 

It was long enough ago that it was before the notion of createing a 'universe' that other authors could build upon and write withing (although a few did, with permisson).  This probably tangles up getting ahold of the IP to make aseries out of it.

It's part of why Drake never optioned out any of his Cinnabar Navy series, too.

But, in thinking about all this, the notion came that a person could base a series in the 'Slammer's 'universe' by telling tales of the other mercenary outfits, and without stepping on the IP.  So, a person could tell a very modern version of Much Ado About Nothing, with the Mercenary troop standing in for Don Pedro's Jannisaries of Messina.  With them returning to a "home base" planet filling in for Messina, and driving the plot line of Claudio finally being able to marry Hero, and all the rest.  There's no reason to not use Elizabethian cadence in the speehes, since we are presuming the far future and all the changes that language would endure, and twisted by relativity.  Which would allow Beatrice and Bendict to be far more mature, and more well-honed in their scorn and acrimony.

Best part, the entire tale would need no huge SFX budget, as a home world might be very primitive and 'natural' rather than all "spaced up" (a feature of many of Drakes "space novels").

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Posted by PhoenixG on Monday, March 18, 2024 5:34 PM

CapnMac82
Mind, with the recent passing of David Drake, I've been thinking about what a Hammer's Slammers movie franchise might look like, too.

I'm sorry to hear he passed.  He was a prolific writer.  I never picked up any of the series though.  I was too busy being sucked into Jerry Pournelle's "Falkenberg's Legion" books.

The publisher Baen Books has several of David Drakes books available free as an ebook download or read via web browser. 

https://www.baen.com/categories/free-library.html

I'll likely take advantage of that.

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