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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:41 PM

There was a ship find at Ladby on the island of Fyn, in 1937. The ship itself is from about 900 A.D. A well preserved iron anchor without stock, and about 10 meters of iron chain, were found there.

Assuming that it belongs to the ship, it would be as old.

 

Bill

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, March 12, 2021 10:45 PM

a quick builders tip . make sure where you are cutting off of the sprue , saves a lot of work . Oops

 

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, March 13, 2021 2:58 AM

got the knees done , and a bit extra at the aft and fore areas.

the knees still need a lot of sanding .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, March 14, 2021 4:27 AM

started the painting and weathering process .

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, March 14, 2021 9:01 AM

How about some info on the paint you are using.  It looks great! What did you use?

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, March 14, 2021 11:41 AM

Don, please see my PM.

 

Bill

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, March 14, 2021 10:14 PM

sorry about that don , I used a flat black primer , MM dark tan on the outside hull and MM light tan on the inside , I then clear coated it , before using an oil wash of burnt umber over everything . on the inside I then dry brushed tamiya nato brown . I am thinking of using an off white dry brushing to imitate a salt build up on the outside hull .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, March 16, 2021 5:19 PM

started on making my own mast and spar's .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:12 AM

got the ship mounted , try starting on the rigging now .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, March 21, 2021 4:51 AM

can someone please help me , how was the spar hoisted up the mast , in other words , what was the rigging system for the mast , what did the rope go through to hoist the spar up , and how was it tied off at the bass of the mast , any help will be very much appreciated .

 

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Posted by crackers on Sunday, March 21, 2021 10:33 AM

Can't give you any advice on the mast rigging, but this picture can illustrate how the furled sail was stowed as well how the ornemental shields were arranged along the gunwale.

Happy modeling   Crackers

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, March 21, 2021 12:04 PM

We don't really know. There were probably no lifts to the ends of the spar . I would guess there was one halyard that was seized around the spar at midpoint and ran through a block and aft to the stern where it was tied off to the beam going across behind the tiller man.

With all respect, I wouldn't put much behind that particular replica. It's possible the T things held the yard, but on the one ship they are really far apart for that.

And the shield display is fantasy, as are the benches for the rowers.

our guys sat on their sea chests, which held their personal grooming products.

 

Bill

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, March 22, 2021 1:46 AM

thank's guy's for the replies , a bloke on another forum ,found this for me .

 

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Posted by gregbale on Monday, March 22, 2021 8:16 AM

FWIW, here are a couple of renderings of their equivalent of blocks or deadeyes...referred to, according to one source, as 'virgins'....

Greg

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, March 22, 2021 7:26 PM

got some rigging done , I know it isn't 100% , but I'm happy . just wish they put more of those deadeye's in the kit . so I just made do .

gregbale , cheers for the rigging diagrams mate .

 

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, March 22, 2021 11:13 PM

a very weak oil wash has been applied to the rigging .

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, March 27, 2021 6:06 PM

I got to wondering, where were the shields stowed when underway? I can see where their swords, axes, and mail would fit in their sea chests, but would the shields fit in a sea chest?

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Michael D. on Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:34 PM

Looking good Steve, are those after market blocks?

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, March 27, 2021 10:15 PM

I can't anwer your question don , GM probably the man to ask .

yes they are michael , 2mm blocks from cornwall boat fittings , I held them betwen pliar jaws and enlarge the hole to 1mm .

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, March 28, 2021 6:48 AM

crackers

Can't give you any advice on the mast rigging, but this picture can illustrate how the furled sail was stowed as well how the ornemental shields were arranged along the gunwale.

Happy modeling   Crackers

 

I just noticed that the pictured vessel has thwarts!

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 28, 2021 9:26 AM

Steve.... your Viking ship is looking awesome. I like the paint work and rigging that you did. Your paint detail has it looking like wood.

Nice work Mate!

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, March 28, 2021 10:57 AM

Any notion of how the stays were set up is valid as there isn't solid evidence of any one thing.

There is a good argument that the stays had a quick release like a toggle so that the yard could be swung from perpendicular to the keel, to parallel.

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, March 29, 2021 3:33 AM

don , I was lead to believe they sat on their sea chests .

steve , cheer's mate , nice to hear from you .

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, March 29, 2021 7:38 AM

steve5

don , I was lead to believe they sat on their sea chests .

steve , cheer's mate , nice to hear from you .

 

That is what I had heard too.  However, the course I am taking in Viking histoy stressed that the vikings were very decentralized and ship design varied a lot from area to area and with time.  Looks like some ships had thwarts and some didn't.  I suspect stowage of shields probably varied to.  There were no establishment specs to control viking ship builders.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, March 29, 2021 4:08 PM

I find it interesting in looking at reconstructions the many varied apparatus for tensioning the shrouds and stays.  I guess that goes along with the idea I mentioned above about the decentralization of design.  I guess each region tended to rediscover ways of doing this.

Also found an interesting piece on shields on ships.

https://bavipower.com/blogs/bavipower-viking-blog/viking-shields-on-the-sides-of-ships-historical-or-not

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, March 30, 2021 1:34 AM

that was interesting don, but the nay's still didn't say where they were stowed , my guess would be the bow , pick them up when they jumped ashore .

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, March 30, 2021 8:26 AM

The history course I am taking talked about the sea battles.  The vikings actually fought among themselves a lot.  This guy says using the shields fastened to the upper strakes formed a defense wall against arrows and spears- yes the vikings did have archers.  The idea of sea battles with longships is new to me- I thought the vikings only raided other peoples.  This Prof said in particular the Danes and the Norwegiens went at each other at sea- dynastic wars.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, March 30, 2021 10:01 AM

the very few shieldds found near ships were about 32 inches in diameter and 1/4" thick at the center, tapering to less than that at the edges. Some have a row of holes around the perimeter, maybe to attach a rim. There's no evidence of the edge being metal.

if the model were handy (the extra oarts), i'd check that. It would be a good idea if shields are to be included, to make them out of plastic about 1/(64 x4), or 1/256 of an inch. I.e. 0.004 inches. Think my math is right.

 

Bill

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, March 30, 2021 4:25 PM

Oh ! You are so right Don!

       The Norse (Denmark, Sweden and Norway ) were fantastic archers! I think sometmes that their only equals were the  English Longbowmen.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, March 31, 2021 7:44 AM

Tanker-Builder

Oh ! You are so right Don!

       The Norse (Denmark, Sweden and Norway ) were fantastic archers! I think sometmes that their only equals were the  English Longbowmen.

 

My prof says the Norse were late to animal husbandry because of the dense forests, so hunted for all their meat, and the bow was their weapon of choice for that so they got a lot of practice.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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