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My Italeri 1/35 S-100 Schnellboot Build

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Posted by doalittle on Friday, January 30, 2009 8:42 AM

Thanks Keef666

Many thanks for the information however, when you say you cut the two outer rudders to size did you mean that you made them the same size as the kits and if so is this true for the centre rudder as well. I have three Graupner rudders ready for cuting if necessary could you please advise. What about the control system of these three rudders, do the two outer ones turn less than the centre one and if so how.

Sorry to be a pain but I am relatively new to this moddelling game and can do with all the help and advice I can get.  If it makes life easy for you my email is, mastin33@gmail.com The only other model I have ever built is the Graupner Wiesel, I have load of photos if you are interested in seening any.

Regards and Best Wishes

Mike Maloney 

 

 

 

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Posted by keef666 on Friday, January 30, 2009 4:01 AM
i used the kits rudders and linked together with a plastic tiller arm, had to drill out each rudder so could fit a brass rod to fit into a brass tube,thought i had it right, till i tried it in the test tank [bath] and they did'nt work, it might have been ok for the real boat, but not for r/c, so i had rethink, and in the end i used the kit centre rudder and the outer ones, used a small graupner size rudder, which still needed cutting down and filing to shape, and this time the boat moves when in the  the bath, the good news is you don't need to drill out as they come already fitted, its a bit on a pain, but hopefully it should work on the boat lake,
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Posted by doalittle on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:47 PM

Hi

I to am building the S100 as an R/C version and like you have now got the three engines exactly in the same place as yours quite by accident.  I was wondering what we need to do about the Rudder syatem.  As there are three rudders One main Centre and two astern of these one port and one starboard.  These two outer rudders I believe shound not turn the same as the centre one.  Do you have any suggestions or have you completed this task and if so could you please advise me.

Mike M

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Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:35 PM
Maybe some drybrushing of the rivets with a shade or two darker than the basecoat they are in?? The pics I have seen, the paint was almost worn off of the rivets anyways.

Eric

 

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Posted by miserable old git on Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:27 PM

got mine sort of painted, with a satin varnish over the top. been messing now with ways to add a bit of life to it. going ok with a rust around various fiitings but looking for a way to highlight the rivots/panels. had no success, can any one point me in the right direction? pass on a few trade secrets?

my hull grey is the lightest Tamyia grey, mixed with Tamyia white. givving me a very pale grey. looks ok to me. sticking with it.

cheers

colin

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Posted by Grem56 on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:02 PM

Looks very interesting there Keef ! Keep the photos coming, this is going to be fun to follow.

Cheers,

Julian

 

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Posted by keef666 on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:16 AM

hi guys, just thought i would update my build on the s-boote, got the motors in now and running, here are a couple of.

 

 

 

keef.

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:14 AM

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Posted by caramonraistlin on Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:34 PM

Greetings:

Isn't it amazing that some things we assume were of a certain color sometimes turn out to be entirely another color. Case in point, I just bought the 1/350 Akagi and from what little info I found it appeared she was painted in Sasebo grey. I thought okay so I ordered the Tamiya color for it in their spray cans and figured I was good to go. Well, turns out it's not as simple as that. I asked for help on the Steel Navy forum and Mr. Al Torres explained that evidently she did spend some time at Kure naval base before being lost at Midway. He said if he had to pick a color he would go with Kure grey as a strong possibility. Recently I've been thinking maybe I'd just go with a what if scenario where she survived until later in the war and was repainted in the Japanese camoflague pattern of light/dark green perhaps with some disruptive camoflague patterns on the flight deck as the Japanese did with some of their other carriers such as the Shinano. That way no one could say if it was right or wrong. Also the two tone green color is rather striking compared to just another shade of grey. I still haven't decided yet as I've only glued the hull together with the supports at this point. Another member suggested trying it out on a 1/700 scale version 1st to see how it turned out (I may try this). It wouldn't surprise me if someone discovers some day that the Titanic was not painted black but was actually a very dark grimey chocolate brown. I guess you just have to go with what makes the most sense sometimes such as the propellers on th S boat. I've ordered the 1/72 Revell version with the flak 38 and I'm painting mine bronze.

 

Sincerely

 

Michael Lacey 

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Posted by Firecaptain on Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:18 PM

Hey guys, those of you that remember some of us got some damaged hulls, I received my replacement hulls Friday and they were perfect. Packaged and padded very securely in a large padded box, along with replacement torpedo screws and all the ladders that were damaged initially. These small parts were all cut off well back on the sprue tree to afford protection from damage and allow me to cut them off flush. So a BIG thank you to the folks at MRC for coming through with great customer service.

Joe
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Posted by Grem56 on Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:09 AM

Check this thread out before you all chuck the bronze paint overboard:

http://modelshipwrights.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=130092

On page 4 the bloke that is restoring the S-boat in the UK states quite clearly that only at the very end of the war were screws made of steel and he adds a very convincing and very bronze coloured photo of a schnellboot screw to top it off. My 2 cents [2c]

Julian

 

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Posted by Gotrek on Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:36 AM
Hi guys,
here's an important tip for building the S-100:
the hull's under water part wasn't painted red with am black line! The original paint was "Schiffsbodenfarbe III"; a very dark grey - nearly black.
...and the Propellers - don't paint them gold or brass. They were made of steel! So do it with silver or Gunze metallizer paint.

Mr. Schatton told me, the depth charges will be ready to sell as six-packs in the mid of january, for the mines, we have to wait a little bit longer: till the end of january - they will be sold separately.

regards from Germany
Gotrek

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Posted by ragatast on Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:46 PM

Great build, lots of good information.  I had no damage to the hull that I could see from the kit that I just recieved.  But, I did have some damage to the photo etched pieces.  I'm curious as to wheather or not White Ensign, or Eduard will be coming out with photo etched for this kit as they have for the Revell Schnell boote kit?  Keep up the good work, and keep us posted.  I'm also interested to see how one would turn this into an R/C boat.

Ragatast

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Posted by gingermeggs on Friday, January 9, 2009 6:33 PM

Hi James I have just posted my self as a new member on the introduce yourself section.

The reason for my interest is that I saw you are building the 1/35 S 100 a build that I will be following closely as I have this kit on order. As explained in my other post I am in Australia

and it has not been realesed here yet. Maybe a good thing as packaging problems may be solved by the time mine arrives. Will certainly inspect before paying after what you guys have revealed.

Regards Gingermeggs 

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Posted by Pavlvs on Monday, January 5, 2009 10:55 AM
Looks like a beautiful model and R/C-ing it looks definitely in the realm of possibility. I gave up the idea of R/C-ing being impossible when I saw two 1/72 (yes I said 1/72) scale WWI fighters (an SE-5 vs a Fokker D-7) dogfighting in a friend's living room. How big is the model? I have the 1/35th PT boat that I am R/C-ing with two throttles and the Revell/Germany Hermann Marwede kit that I am also R/C-ing both the ship and the satellite boat it carries on board. You gotta love those Germans. They named the ship after the man who started the Lager brewing industry in Germany.

It is important to know where your priorities are. As Ben Franklin once said, "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

Deus in minutiae est. Fr. Pavlvs

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On Deck: 1/200 Arizona.

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Posted by keef666 on Monday, January 5, 2009 10:04 AM

Hope you don't mind me joining in the debate, about the s-boat ! after a years wait i got my hands on one, mine is to be r/c, to go with my early 1/35 th scale s-boat [e-boat] which i did three years ago, but back to the new one,i was going to fit a quad on the rear as of s-174, but seems everyone is doing the same, found a firm who makes the mines, but by the time i put four on the rails, they would cost more than the boat kit ,got the hull glued together, don't like the screws or the way they have changed the keel, don't like the hull side inserts  afer you fitted the bracing, i think they have too many water outlets along hull sides, so far have three propshafts fitted along with kits propellers and have the rudders nexts.post more as i build keef666

 

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Posted by Grem56 on Saturday, December 13, 2008 1:42 AM

 Gotrek wrote:
...nice link:

http://www.plasticmodellbausaetze.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=333

I think, he was working day and night!

Gotrek

Just been having a closer look at his photo's. Looks like he put his tube doors on with the hinges on the wrong side. Still nifty paintwork though.

Julian

 

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Posted by Firecaptain on Friday, December 12, 2008 4:22 PM

James, won't tie this thread up with more tank talk but yes I have one on pre-order!

Will be looking for your comments in the armor section!

Joe
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Posted by snapdragonxxx on Friday, December 12, 2008 2:15 PM

I will come back to this kit, I promise.

I live in the UK and I guess that import/export rules are a bit different here. Pocketbond Who import for trumpeter have done a great job in getting this out to retailers. You should have seen me go out of the door after I rung the model shop.... warp factor 9 or what!!!!!

I'm going to post some piccies of the kit onto the armour forum shortly. I will do a full photo shoot of the entire kit in proper daylight (or what passes for daylight at this time of year.)

For Julian and Joe - If you've ordered this kit you won't be dissapointed!

James

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Posted by Grem56 on Friday, December 12, 2008 1:13 PM

Couldn't agree more Joe and agree that a smaller size will be more realistic. 6 of these bigguns (sound like Al Bundy here) would upset the trim of this ship in a big way I would presume. I will be waiting for Robert Schattons offering and might even do the mix of mines and charges you suggested.

'Oi, Snap old chap, this is a rather abrupt end to your build thread. Keeping us boat builders in suspense now you hear? Smile [:)]

cheers,

Julian

 

 

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Italeri S-100: http://cs.finescale.com/FSMCS/forums/t/112607.aspx?PageIndex=1

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Posted by Firecaptain on Friday, December 12, 2008 12:55 PM

James are you in the States? Stevens said they were expecting them on Monday.

On that mine issue, a book I just got shows the porcupine mines on the back of a boat but they are nowhere near the size of the one you had. Also the roller was removed from the port side as on the right they had the cannister depth charges. Further on in the book I found that the mines were in fact in different sizes based on amount of explosive I guess. Don't know if the boats actually carried the biggest ones made, all the photos had the smaller size depicted, and they were almost half the size of that monster you posted sitting on the back end of your boat. 

Joe
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Posted by snapdragonxxx on Friday, December 12, 2008 10:34 AM

My Trumpeter King Tiger II tanks have arrived this very day..... The Schnellboot is on hold for a little while. I do tend to move between projects and will come back to it.

James

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Posted by CG Bob on Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:22 PM
 Grem56 wrote:
No photos of the boats in dock so I have no idea if there were shutters or valves in the pipes.

Julian

The pipes would have valves, probably about a foot inboard of the hull skin.   Best way to replicate the pipes would be some brass or aluminum tubing - much easier than trying to drill out sprue.  The cooling water inlet valves would be globe or gate valves.  The exhaust valves would most likely be butterfly valves.
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Posted by Grem56 on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:15 PM

Magnificent build !

Julian

 

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Posted by snapdragonxxx on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:27 PM

me thinks that someone has too much time on their hands!!!

but that diorama is superb!

James

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Posted by Gotrek on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:13 PM
...nice link:

http://www.plasticmodellbausaetze.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=333

I think, he was working day and night!

Gotrek
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Posted by Grem56 on Saturday, December 6, 2008 2:04 PM

There are several books with photo's of the engine rooms and underwater exhaust outlets of the S-boats. They had very powerful diesel engines and that generally means big exhaust pipes. As far as that is concerned the underwater exhaust outlets were state of the art in 1939 AFAIC.  Try these books for some reference:

S-boote: German E-boats in action 1939-1945. ISBN: 2-913903-49-5

Schnellboot in action. ISBN: 0-89747-457-0

No photos of the boats in dock so I have no idea if there were shutters or valves in the pipes.

Julian

 

illegal immigrants have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian.....................

Italeri S-100: http://cs.finescale.com/FSMCS/forums/t/112607.aspx?PageIndex=1

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Posted by Firecaptain on Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:30 PM
I guess it will be hard to get some close-ups of that massive exhaust (one with the fairing) to see what's inside, like flappers, gills, etc (would have to be in dry dock or at the factory pics).
Joe
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Posted by Grem56 on Saturday, December 6, 2008 12:31 PM

I did on the Revell 1/72 scale s-boat. Stuck pieces of sprue on the inside of the hull where vents and outlets were supposed te be and drilled in from the outside. For the diesel exhausts in this scale you are going to need some very hefty pieces of sprue. Not sure about the Italeri offering.

Julian My 2 cents [2c]

 

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Posted by Firecaptain on Saturday, December 6, 2008 12:21 PM

Is anyone drilling out all of those pipes and exhausts(?) in the side of the hull?

Joe
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