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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:14 AM

caramonraistlin

Bondoman:

Are you planning on using the kit barrels or are you going to replace them? I know I looked into replacing them with brass ones once as Model Expo appears to carry some of the correct length and shape. A

I'll try the kit ones and see how that goes. Surely they are good-enuff. One principle at the start is to remain as out of box as possible. The only real omission, if it is one, seems to be breeching rings, which are simple enough, however I'd guess the turned ones don't have them either. And of course the ship has iron guns, so I'd have to blacken them anyways.

One consistent theme in all of the sources I've found concerning a large scale Victory model, Longridge included, is to be economical about concentrating on what-you-see. L for instance would have you only plank the upper deck in the waist, the middle deck under the gratings, and the lower deck not at all. Plus the diagonal flooring in the cabins and wardroom. In that same vein, many models omit the gun tackle on all but the same areas, or grossly simplify it.

Building a plastic sailing ship model, or at this point, contemplating one, seems to be like absently twiddling the rubber band on a flying model while listening to a lecture by Ed Heinemann; when reading Longridge. Oh, not to underestimate the challenge and realize one's limitations painfully, but Longridge and his craft tend to have the most remarkably understated observations, and here I paraphrase a little;

 

"Form the main deck in two halves of 1/16" spruce, precisely joined down the middle and cut on a template exactly so that it lies flush with the hull, with an even space all round for the waterway stringer",

or,

"As you add the decks, remember to bore a hole for each mast in such a way that they slip in without binding and stand true when fitted".

Time to sharpen the sprue nippers. Elsewhere I've read: "A good plastic sailing ship model can reduce an effort that would take decades to one that takes years." I'll drink to that!ToastPirate

Here's today's question. Most sources would agree that the bulwarks, hanging knees and overhead in the gun decks are enameled white, although there is the occasional model I see that has red. Photos seem to be of white, although they post date by many refits and restorations. Color opinions?

 

 

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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:05 AM

bondoman

 One consistent theme in all of the sources I've found concerning a large scale Victory model, Longridge included, is to be economical about concentrating on what-you-see. L for instance would have you only plank the upper deck in the waist, the middle deck under the gratings, and the lower deck not at all. Plus the diagonal flooring in the cabins and wardroom. In that same vein, many models omit the gun tackle on all but the same areas, or grossly simplify it.

Along those same lines, it's worth noting that all the gunport lids on Longrridge's model are shut.  It has no guns below the upper deck.
I'm fairly certain that, of all the Victory kits on the market (plastic, wood, and other), the Heller one is the only one that provides for honest-to-goodness guns, with carriages, on all the decks.  Even the famous Calder/Jotika kit, which costs more than $1,000, uses "dummy guns on the middle and lower decks.
Regarding the color scheme - that's pretty simple.  Go to the ship's website and open up the "Modeler's Pages."  They're you'll find a detailed color scheme, based on the latest scholarly research (which was conducted in the buildup to the Trafalgar bicentennial).

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Posted by caramonraistlin on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:10 PM

Bondoman:

I just had a thought which I might try regarding the gun barrels. I could complete several that were all properly glued, seam scraped and barrel end drilled. I could then make a rtv mold of them and pour several replicas at once using a 2 part resin. I guess color can also be added to the resin when it's mixed though I have never tried that. This method would produce acceptable barrels with little scraping involved which would save a lot of time.

Michael Lacey

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Posted by GeoffWilkinson on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:28 PM

jtilley

Geoff - if you're just starting your model, you're a long, long way from needing a rope-making machine.  To build a 1/96 Cutty Sark you probably don't need one at all.  (One big reason for using a rope-making machine is that it lets you produce cable-laid rope - i.e., rope with a left-hand twist.  Cable-laid rope was in quite common use in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, but not in the Cutty Sark's era.  Most of her standing rigging is made of wire anyway.)

John,

Earlier in this thread Publius (Paul/Bankok) inspired me with his motto ‘Slow is Fast’. It is a very good motto.

At the moment I am but a mere apprentice who is soaking up the knowledge and experience of others.

Already I have gained so much from the discussions here and I’m so glad that I’m taking my time.

While I realize I am a long, long way away from needing a rope making machine or if I will ever need one, I am finding it fascinating learning about all the skills our forefathers possessed and employed and how these ships worked. These things help me in understanding the machine I am building. Couple that with the personal joy of knowing something has been ‘done right’.

I have barely done anything constructive on the actual kit for over two weeks now, confining myself to little experiments like the belay pins and now the subject of deadeyes.

I am enjoying this side benefit almost as much as making the model together with the thought that the final result will (hopefully) better than I anticipated and preventing disappointing disasters.

Geoff

 

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:58 PM

Geoff- see my "conversation" re: rope machine. If you give me your email, I'll send you the sketches from Longridge. Don't think I'll be violating any copyrights.

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Posted by GeoffWilkinson on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:22 PM

bondoman

Geoff- see my "conversation" re: rope machine. If you give me your email, I'll send you the sketches from Longridge. Don't think I'll be violating any copyrights.

Thank you Bondoman. That would be much appreciated.

 I don't think you will be violating any copyright either. It is my intention to buy this book for my collection anyway (at a much later date) all you will be doing is to 'whet my appetite' in the same way as google books does already.

Geoff

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:07 PM

jtilley

 

Regarding the color scheme - that's pretty simple.  Go to the ship's website and open up the "Modeler's Pages."  They're you'll find a detailed color scheme, based on the latest scholarly research (which was conducted in the buildup to the Trafalgar bicentennial).

 

Goodness, I had no idea those pages were there. Under references...and added in "Tail of the Queue".

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 7:48 PM

Michael lacey-

Good idea, but there'll still be a seam.

Here's my tuppence.

On the lower deck, the outboard end of the gun is what matters.

On the middle deck, same except the guns below the skid beams and boats.

On the upper deck,quarter deck, forecastle etc. most important.

Once I get all of the carriages together, I'll prep all of the barrel parts, which I'd guess are the usual halves. Start by removing any locator pins- those are just trouble. Scrape/ sand any flash. Match halves to each other and grade pairs. Keep the beauty queens for the exposed areas, send the rest below, forward/aft, etc.

Also, when it comes to gluing them, without pins, I'll work from the muzzle. I don't think I'll mind a step at the breech on most of them if the muzzle lines up nice and tidy.

Then paint Floquil Grimy Black (my favorite steam engine color) and maybe rub with graphite if it looks good.

Now the Victory site (thanks John) suggests the muzzle faces are red. Eh, that'll make any irregularities in the bores show.

 

Come on kit, get here!

 

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Posted by caramonraistlin on Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:14 AM

Bondoman:

Forget to add a little more info. about my proposed mold. I'd make mine one part. I'd make a styrene box and glue the cannon muzzle down to the bottom of the box. Then fill it with 2 part rtv. Let dry and then remove the box. The rtv should give enough that the barrels could just be pulled out of it. However, I forgot that the ends of the cast barrels would have to be drilled out anyway. I still plan to try it sometime and see.

 

Michael Lacey

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, July 1, 2010 10:10 PM

Today the mail delivered this wonderful item:

I was surprised to find that it's an Imai boxing of the kit. As such, there are two distinct sets of instructions, with independent drawings, and while I don't read Japanese, the illustrations at first glance appear much clearer and the printing quality and paper quality makes them more legible. First order of business was to scan both for the archive.

Also a very pleasant inclusion was a stout little box with five sizes of twisted black cord on sizable spools labeled Imai. Whether that's of use or not I'll discover later, but it's encouraging.

I'm going to spend the evening cleaning up the two halves of the hull. There's a lot of work to do, and there are very visible ejector pin marks in a couple of areas that matter, plus a lot of overdone wood grain that needs to be sanded down inside the bulwarks and on the decks. On the hull I'll let it go. This weekend I hope to have the major hull pieces primed, and the decks possibly primed too..

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Posted by Big Jake on Thursday, July 1, 2010 10:58 PM

glad it arrived in one piece.

Jake

 

 

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Posted by caramonraistlin on Friday, July 2, 2010 7:34 AM

Bondoman:

I couldn't help notice on the pictures of the kit you received that there appears to be no vacu-formed sails. My Heller kit is stuffed full of about 3 to 4 huge sheets of them. Maybe this is something they started leaving out in the later kits? I know a person either loves them or hates them but they can be used as the basis to make more realistic copies.

Michael Lacey

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, July 2, 2010 9:44 AM

I don't know, but I didn't want them anyhow.

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Posted by Grem56 on Friday, July 2, 2010 12:34 PM

Have you been to visit this site yet?

http://www.modelshipworld.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8453

(hope the link works).

Julian

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, July 2, 2010 1:25 PM

Thanks, that's great! I'm adding it to the ref list "Tails of the Queue" post.

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Posted by GeoffWilkinson on Friday, July 2, 2010 2:52 PM

Grem56

Have you been to visit this site yet?

http://www.modelshipworld.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8453

Amazing - what an inspiration. I've saved that link for future reference.

Thanks Grem56,

Geoff

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Posted by jtilley on Friday, July 2, 2010 7:37 PM

I hope I may be forgiven if I offer a small, but potentially important, suggestion for painting this kit's hull.  There's nothing original about this suggestion; it has to do with a molded-in feature that isn't mentioned in the instructions.  Well, at least it wasn't mentioned in the English "translation" that used to be supplied with the kit.  I don't know about the French or Japanese versions.  (That English-language document, which apparently was written by somebody who neither knew how to read French nor had attempted to build the model, was a genuine scandal.  I've ranted about it several times in other Forum threads.)

As is explained on the "modeler's section" of the ship's website, those black and yellow ochre stripes that are so characteristic of the ship are surpisingly subtle in their layout.  They don't follow the lines of the gunports - or any other three-dimensional feature.  They sweep gently upward at the bow and stern, and taper slightly at the ends.

Laying them out and painting them in just the right places, and making the port and starboard ones identical, would be quite a challenge.  Fortunately, though, the nice folks at Heller made it relatively easy - for those who are in on the secret.  If you look carefully you'll see a series of extremely fine raised lines that delineate the stripes.  It's easy to miss them among the detail of the "wood grain" and the edges of the planks, but they're there.  Lay your masking tape along those lines and you'll be in good shape.  Sand them off and you'll have your work cut out for you.

Speaking of the planking detail - I think it's worth noting that Heller did a superb job with the layout of the hull planks.  So far as I know, every wood Victory kit - even the big, generally excellent one from Calder/Jotika - ignores the "anchor stock" pattern of the wales.  Heller got it just right.  (Unfortunately the same can't be said about the deck planks.)

Some people think the "wood grain" effect is overdone; I guess I agree, but it's a lot better than that in any other Heller kit.  Others think the gaps between the planks are too prominent.  They probably are, but in my opinion the problem is not that they're too wide, but rather that they're too deep.

Here's another place where the ship's appearance today isn't really relevant.  The people who applied the hull planks that are there now didn't pay much attention to eighteenth-century practice.  (The aforementioned book by Messrs. McKay and McGowen makes the reason obvious:  the maintenance of that ship is so staggeringly expensive that corners have to be cut here and there.)  In the eighteenth century, it was customary to cut the edges of the planks on a slight bevel, so there was in fact a gap of as much as an inch between the planks on their outer surface.  Then the caulker, a highly-skilled professional, would come along and fill the gaps with a mixture of hot caulking compound and oakum, which he pounded into the gaps with his caulking irons.  The idea was that the caulking process would render the joints watertight (or nearly so) when the planks worked back and forth in the seaway. 

The Heller renditions of the gaps probably are a little too wide, but I'd be interested to see what would happen if the gaps were simply filled up, almost to the level of the adjoining planks, with some sort of filler.  (Even white glue might work - depending on the type of paint being applied over it.)  My inclination would be to try to make the seams barely visible in terms of depth, but I don't think their width is a major problem.

Big caveat:  I haven't built this kit, and my opinions of it are based almost entirely on photos of it and my recollection of the sample that was sent to me for review those many years ago.  But Bondoman's photos certainly match my recollections. 

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, July 3, 2010 1:01 AM

Thank you for the tip John. You are correct of course- there are very faint little bulnose lines that can only be the delineations to set the masking at. The sequence will have to be to prime all surfaces, pity that ochre plastic is so...unique, paint the inside lower and middle deck bulwarks white, and then paint the ochre stripes and upper deck bulwarks. Then mask and paint black. Followed by hand work- red coaming at the gun ports, etc. etc. etc.

After assembling the hull I'll tackle the copper, as the keel seam will no doubt require attention at the stem and stern.

There's a list of things needed to be done to the hulls, primarily removing ejector pin marks where visible. And i am going to give consideration to increasing the thickness of the hull at the lower gun deck ports, but I don't know yet if that is necessary.

As for the decks, the center part of the upper deck is visible through the open area around the boat skid beams.

And the waist  section of the quarter deck is exposed as is of course the poop deck and forecastle deck. All of these have very heavily cast planks and grooves. The planks mic out at about 9" at scale and are 35 feet long, which looks too big, and the combination of grain and grooves is very rustic, not the smooth holystoned surface it should be.

The solution- replace them. The poop deck can be sanded down as it has no other detail, but the upper and quarter decks are simple enough to make. I considered turning them over, but there are ejector pin marks all over the underside. I'll have to shave off the gratings, but that's not hard, and they would benefit greatly from new strip frames in any case. They are not very good looking as supplied, just perforated slabs with no detail. The skid beams look bad, they are about half as deep as wide, and look pebbly. Here I am going to create a little homage to Longridge and make proper ones.

The planking will be much better looking if it's simulated with shades of paint, and the caulking drawn on with a Sharpie pen. I'll airbrush on the darkest shade of weathered oak, and then mask my way through a couple of lighter shades, draw the lines and seal it.

 

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Posted by jtilley on Saturday, July 3, 2010 10:58 AM

Well, that's an interesting approach to the deck problem.  If I were doing it (heaven forbid), I'd junk the plastic parts and make the decks from individual holly planks, with the seams simulated by rubbing a pencil along each edge.  (Once the planks are cut and penciled, it takes about two evenings.)  And I personally have an instinctive aversion against airbrushes for sailing ship models.  But to each his own.  I'll be interested to see how Bondoman's approach works.

My comment on the inaccuracy of Heller's deck planking had to do primarily with the locations of the butt joints.  As is obvious in the photos of that excellent model at modelshipworld.com, they aren't spaced right.  If I remember correctly, the plans in Dr. Longridge's book (and both of Mr. McKay's) show a "four-step" pattern - that is, every pair of butt joints on an individual deck beam is separated by at least three uninterrupted strakes.  (In the merchant service, it had to be done that way to get Lloyd's certification.)  Heller shows butt joints (on the same beam) on every other strake.

Speaking of deck beams - I remember noting when I reviewed the kit (those many years ago) that it represented a quantum leap forward for the plastic sailing ship kit world in that the designers had finally figured out a reasonably effective way to make a big deck in injection-molded plastic.  The big Revell kits (the 1/96 Cutty Sark, Kearsarge, Constitution, and their various clones) all had their decks molded in three sections - forward, center, and aft.  They inevitably suffered from horrible, hard-to-hide joints (not to mention the potential for warping).  Heller took a step in the right direction with the (otherwise awful) Soleil Royal, whose decks are split port and starboard (with the joints cleverly located at planking seams).  But that kit has problems with deck camber.  The Victory, on the other hand, has a series of plastic deck beams with the camber molded into them.  (I seem to recall noting that the numbers on some of those beams were mixed up in the instructions; better check.)  Great idea. 

Deck camber does present a problem to kit manufacturers - and the bigger the model, the bigger the problem.  Even if the molds have the camber right, there's a big potential problem with warping as the plastic cools.  The best solution I can remember is the one in the Airfix H.M.S. Bounty.  Its one-piece deck has a series of skinny "beams" (so their presence doesn't lead to sink marks on the surface) molded integrally to the bottom of it.  Brilliant.  Unfortunately that kit doesn't have much else to recommend it.

The human memory is a strange and sometimes scary thing.  I probably haven't laid eyes on a Heller Victory (outside the box) in at least twenty-five years, but I can remember things like those little raised lines along the "gunport streaks" and the misnumbering of the deck beams.  (I don't remember which of them were misnumbered.)  But I've been teaching seventeen college students in summer session for the past two weeks and, to my extreme embarrassment, I haven't been able to memorize all their names yet.  And yesterday, when my wife sent me grocery shopping, I had to ask her to write down the things she wanted me to buy - all eight of them - because I knew that if she didn't I'd forget at least one.  Getting old is an interesting, and not always enjoyable, experience.

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Posted by Force9 on Saturday, July 3, 2010 2:47 PM

If I remember right, Dr. Longridge used a different butt pattern on the poop deck (three step?) vs the quarterdeck...  I am no master modeler, but I may try to modify the decks on my Heller Victory to reflect something nearer to a four-step pattern by filling in some of what is there and scribing some of what isn't there...

 

I've also made my own attempt at adding thickness to the lower gundecks - a first rate needs some thick scantling.

 

I cleaned out each gunport opening and got rid of any semblance of trim or edging that might've been moulded in place - that will be represented by slightly offsetting the linings that I am putting in place.  The moulded ports have all been opened up - as well as the lower deck quarter gallery door.

 

I'll use different thicknesses to represent the diminishing thickness of the sides as you move higher:

3.2mm x 4.0mm styrene strip on the Lower gundeck

2.5mm x 4.0mm styrene strip on the Middle gundeck

2.0mm x 4.0mm styrene strip on the Upper gundeck

The quarterdeck ports stay as they are...

 

Starboard progress so far:

 

I've found that generally I can chop up lengths of just under 1/2" for three of the sides, the fourth is best cut a bit smaller.  I glue the top piece first to set up the alignment, then work clockwise around the opening - carefully checking the fit from the  outside each time. Takes me about a minute or so to do each port.

 

I've paused on the upper deck until I work through the fit of the inner bulwarks that will be visible from the waist. 

 

Once everything is glued I'll come back to fill any small cracks.

 

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, July 3, 2010 2:51 PM

Oh that's fabulous! Thank you, saved me a bunch of thinking.

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Posted by Force9 on Saturday, July 3, 2010 2:51 PM

To really wander into extremism... Here are some samples of my effort to fill in the blank area at the bottom of the hull:

 

 

On my trial hull, I had experimented with affixing the longer strips all at once and then scribing the plate pattern afterwards - very neat and much faster, but I didn't find the end result satisfactory enough.

 

I'm still in the early stages, but you can peruse my build log on the Pete Coleman site...

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, July 3, 2010 8:46 PM

I'm ignoring that area. I plan to set her on keel blocks with ehr keel in a groove, so that area should be hidden.

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Posted by Force9 on Saturday, July 3, 2010 10:51 PM

Certainly unusual for anyone to bother with that area - I happen to want to mount my Victory on pedestals and I did all that brain damage on the off chance that someone could see the blank area at some oblique angle...

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, July 3, 2010 11:41 PM

I discovered a good source of plastic sheet less than 0.010. Clear plastic report cover.

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, July 7, 2010 11:38 PM

Progress to report. I searched through my paint supplies and found a nice warm gray to use as a primer coat for the decks, so I've sprayed the plastic sheet that I'll use for the upper, quarter, poop and forecastle decks, also the beakhead deck. Not shown- the undersides are sprayed white.

And the lower and middle deck kit pieces.

I built up the hull thickness at the gun ports with basswood. . This followed cleaning up the ports of any ridge molded in for the gun ports when closed.

I've ordered my yellow ochre paint.

Next- prime the hull halves and figure out the most efficient way to lay out the deck planks.

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Posted by Big Jake on Thursday, July 8, 2010 8:57 AM

Bondo,

This is one I lost to Katrina

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Big Jake on Thursday, July 8, 2010 8:58 AM

This is one I did for a Customer back in 1990 The customer broke the jib and tried to repair it before the picture was taken.

 

 

 

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Posted by Force9 on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:25 AM

caramonraistlin

Bondoman:

I just had a thought which I might try regarding the gun barrels. I could complete several that were all properly glued, seam scraped and barrel end drilled. I could then make a rtv mold of them and pour several replicas at once using a 2 part resin. I guess color can also be added to the resin when it's mixed though I have never tried that. This method would produce acceptable barrels with little scraping involved which would save a lot of time.

Michael Lacey

 

Technically this might constitute a violation of copyright law - even if there is no intention to resell...  Needless to say, only copy for your own use and it is doubtful anyone would chase after you.

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:29 PM

Force9

 

 caramonraistlin:

 

Bondoman:

I just had a thought which I might try regarding the gun barrels. I could complete several that were all properly glued, seam scraped and barrel end drilled. I could then make a rtv mold of them and pour several replicas at once using a 2 part resin. I guess color can also be added to the resin when it's mixed though I have never tried that. This method would produce acceptable barrels with little scraping involved which would save a lot of time.

Michael Lacey

 

 

 

Technically this might constitute a violation of copyright law - even if there is no intention to resell...  Needless to say, only copy for your own use and it is doubtful anyone would chase after you.

So far barrel assembly is going fine. A good use of a big egg crate sorting tray. The 32s and the 24s are the same parts, but neither of them will show inside anyhow. I can do about two a minute, which puts it within a television show or two. Obviously clean up will be a little more time. They do look good. I do need to put breeching rings on all of the guns however.

Following a couple of good modeling sites, my strategy is to put breeching rope on all of the 32s and all of the 24s., and leave it at that. No training tackle. And I need to figure out a way to attach the ropes to the bulwarks without any fancy or time consuming detail. If any guns come loose, I'll have a fighting chance to get them glued back in place.

All of the 12s on the upper and quarter decks, and the carronades will also have breeching rope. And training tackle on the upper deck in the waist, plus all the guns above that deck.

Plus lifts and eyes (4 each) for the gun port lids.

I have my 2.5mm cable, 1.3mm messenger, 0.5mm breeching ropes, 0.1mm line and various blocks and eyebolts on order from Shipwright World.

I've finished the preliminary work on the hull halves and primed them, and painted the white bulwarks on the lower and middle decks, plus all of the cabin partition interiors.

I've base coated all of the decks, and layed out and masked the upper, quarter/ forecastle, beakhead and poop deck planking. Going to spray those layered colors next.

I've received the two colors I will mix for yellow ochre. Have not made a decision yet on red ochre. Going with Floquil Grimy Black for the hull. I hope to spray the yellow ochre this weekend, if I have the gun carriages finished.

Hopefully by the end of July I will have the hull painted and the lower deck in. I'm going to add various basic details to it, as can be seen through the ports. Nothing fancy, just gratings, manger walls, capstans, bitts and cable. If I can do a deck a month, I'll have the hull finished by Christmas.

I am saving the copper for later.

I'll get some pictures together soon.

That's it for now.

 

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