Zvezda 1/72 English Medieval Ship Thomas - Fin 28 April 2014

Note in this picture that the line securing the Heart is Black because this is considered Standing Rigging. However the line between the two Hearts is light, hence running rigging. This is also true for the Deadeyes.

I think that is enough for tonight.

Steve

Well done, Sir!  She looks super sweet!

Thanks Dave!  I almost got 'er done.

Steve

Here is a continuation of the running rigging. I opened the holes out on the beak to make rigging easier.

Enjoy

Steve

The halyards to raise and lower the yard.

The halyards will wrap around the winch later.

Note the kit provided parrells. They actually help keep the yard close to the mast and helps the yard move up and down the mast.

Steve

I know you were wondering where Octavius was.

Here is the beginning of the lifts rigging.

The hanging block at the end of the yard is for the brace.

Steve

I'll post more tomorrow.

Steve

Beautiful build Steve--well beyond what I can due.

Thanks Niels, but I seriously doubt that this anywhere near your beautiful builds!

Steve

Sorry about having to post one picture per post, I have been posting from my iPad.  It is a bear and then some to try posting more than one at a time; however, I am on the big boy computer so here are a couple more photos of the build.

Enjoy,

Steve

I'm using a bulleye on the bowline instead of the a single block used per the instructions.  The instructions have single blocks off the "bowsprit(?)" which makes much more sense.  I also added the cleats on the inside aft portion of the forecastle for the tie off.

Steve

Checking the length for the lines.

Tied off at the sail

Here is the tie off at the blocks.  Note the angle of the yard. I hope I am not boring too many people with the "process" photos.

Steve

Adjusting the lines again

And finally the tie off.  I use painter's tape and wrap my lines on them.  Then a 50/50 mixture of water and Elmer's glue is painted on them them and are then left to dry.

I like your technique for laying the rope coils...I always struggle with rope coils...hey Steve, do you have a preferred method for making coils to hang on pinrails?  I can never get them to work the way Mastini or Wilkins say in their books...

Thanks Dave,

On this build and the Nina, I have been experimenting with the Elmer's glue and water mix to fairly good results.  I am still using CA on the contact points for lines, but for coiling line I built a jig made of wood and small nails (finishing nails).  The nails are of various distances from each other and these are what I use to coil line.  

I wax the line as usual, by running it through a block of bees wax and then pass it  over a small flames couple of times and then soak the line line until it is limp.  I then take a length of this line and wrap it around a couple of nails that corespond with the height of the belaying pin rail and also how much rope I want to display.  At this point you paint the line with the 50/50 mixture of white glue and water, let dry and then lay it over the the pin.  I then paint the line again with a bit of the glue/water so that it will sag, mostly with a little help from your rigging tool.

Otherwise, if you are using the Wilkins' method, are you using the old tube plastic cement to coat the line when it is on the rod? And using liquid cement while holding the line on the pin and forming it with some form of rigging tool?

I started using the white glue/water mix because I really did not like the look of the Wilkins' method.  It was probably me using FAR too much glue than was needed!

I do not know what method Mastini  recommends but if you want to give me a run down on how it works, I would appreciate it.

Hope this help bud,

Steve

The problem I have is that the coils don't want to stay coiled, especially when removing them from the jig..soon as they are flexed, the whole thing comes undone like a jack in the box!

Mastini, in Ship Modeling Simplified, uses a similar technique, but he suggests tying loops like a woolding (with the ends of the seize being tied under, and then together outside the loop) around a rod (or exacto handle), and then sliding them off...same problem, though...I can't get them to stay in a loop...maybe more glue??

I never use the tube type cement...I hate that stuff  :)

I guess I'll keep experimenting, but I've failed with about 30 attempts!

lol

Here's a pic from the book...

You are going to laugh at this, I use the rod technique you show above, but I soak it w/ plain water before I pull it off the rod. Surprisingly they tend to hold their shape even after I hang them w/ out using any glue. Sometimes I have to re soak them to reshape them a bit, but then they seem fine. The only glue I use is to attach it to the belaying pin. Might depend on what kind of cordage you are using. All mine comes from Syrene. A bit spendy, but well worth it.

Dave,

I think the jack in the box outcome has to do with not using the tube glue.  I'll do a test and see if that is it or not.  For liquid cement, do you use the Model Master brand and if so is that what you're you using on the line while wrapped around the rod?  You might want to try the painters tape and white glue mix to see if it comes out more to your satisfaction.  Please let me know how it comes out.

Arnie,

That is amazing that you can get the line to lay the way you want to.  I have a little bit left so I think I'll give it a test.  I'm glad that you find Chuck's line suitable.  Personally,  love his products which is why I recommended it to you.  I agree, it is a bit pricey but well worth it!

I will post some more pictures this weekend on the build, so stay tuned, same ship channel same ship station.....

Steve

Hmmmm...let me apologize for hijacking your thread a little bit Steve!

But...how many people use kit line, and how common is it to source line from companies like Syren?  Is there a seriously noticeable difference?  I'm a bit of a cheapskate, so I usually make do with the stuff from the kit (unless it's terrible [the stuff in the new Revell Vasa was BAD!])....but if it really makes for better performance, I guess I should give it a whirl...By the way, I bought a bunch from Model Shipways for cheap last year, but I found it plastic-y and lame....The line in all my Imai kits seems good...I never have any trouble, except if I'm trying to make coils!

I use dilute elmer's when I'm trying to stiffen line for coils...the anchor rope for the Chebec worked out great, but that's easy, since it lies on the deck in a coil (all I did was shape it, brush it with glue+water, and put some clothespins on it to hold it in shape until it was dry)...the stuff that hangs from pinrails seems trickier.  This is a technique that I really want to learn, coiled rope feels like an important detail.

Dave