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Spanish Galleon 1607 , LEE(IMAI) 1:100

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  • Member since
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  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Sunday, July 9, 2017 8:33 AM

Kirill, 

     Your work is completly inspiring. Your picture-taking skills are superb. I guess you are into 10 years on this but that does not make me feel any better as I could never get to the level of detail and accuracy that you have achieved.  Thank you for your Posting and the  instruction, perfection, and yes, enlightenment. Please keep posting!

     Jim   (Nino)

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Posted by kirill4 on Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:29 AM

Good day,

Dear Jim,

Thank You very much for your attention and such high appreciation of my  model building,:)))

I'm glad You like it and found interesting and hope , smthng useful for your own model building :)))...

by the way, there is interesting question, at least for me , and I will be very apriciable if somebody tell me his own opinion, how to secure mizzen  tie in correct position at mizzen spar/ yard? 

Should there be securing plank / cleats same type/ or similar  to those we could see on the main or fore sails spars which hold the ties and the parrel-ropes in place?

or there is nothing need to be installed ? 

Logicaly there should be something / kind of stopper to keep mizzen tie at place,and prevent it to slipping off the yard... need to consider that mizzen yard all the time fitted to the angle to deck and sometimes need to be moved from side to side around mizzen mast depend on sail working position...

so, the next question, where to fit them if this clamps should be fitted? how many? one only evidence of such cleats I saw on modern reconstruction of swedish votive model , but can't find good foto of this element on ship replica of the period,such as Duyfken, Half Moon...

May be somebody have foto of the museum's models with similar mizzen sail arrangements where presence or absence of this plank could be clearly seen?

there are some fotoes of swedish votive model replica, where kind of such stoppers on the mizzen yard could be seen and fragments from book abt Prince Willem model/reconstruction with the different condtruction of stopper for mizzen tie...

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Posted by kirill4 on Monday, July 10, 2017 2:11 AM

 

Good day, there are next small steps in rigging - this time I completed running parts ( secured them at places)of main mast back stays and topsail tie halliard

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:24 AM

Hmmm;

 The picture of the ship floating in the air . Now who would've thunk ?

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Posted by sharkbait on Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:47 PM
WOW!

You have never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3!

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Sunday, January 28, 2018 5:17 PM

Good day,

Dear friends ,

in this my vacation I have time continue with main mast rigging - added main and top-sail bowlines...

 making main bowlines I' ve tried to follow Anderson's book and ancient pictures( some from Pieter Kirsch book"The Galleon ...") and  lead them trough the blocks fitted at  bowsprit.

When making top sail bowlines , I simplified rigging a little bit and ommited couple of  blocks which should be fitted  on the main stay - did it in the same way as on Pieter Kirsch galleon rigging reconstruction, but not as complicated as mentioned in Anderson book or we could see on the ancient drwngs

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Posted by kirill4 on Sunday, January 28, 2018 5:22 PM

 

in this section I continue with main mast rigging and try to follow information( in common :))) at least that part which I could understood)  from famous Anderson's book

In This case I 've made topgallant  sheets and topsail lifts as separate lines...I left small remarks with links to  Anderson 's book  pages numbers, on some fotoes...

and made topsails leechlines as well...I'm not sure that I did them in a right way for this period...may be it should be better to attach leechlines leading blocks to tie instead of stay collar??? and made them not as single lines?

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, January 28, 2018 5:34 PM

beautiful work kirill , which book by andersen are you refering to kirill ?

 

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Posted by Michael D. on Sunday, January 28, 2018 8:08 PM

Absolutely stunning work Kirill...well done Sir.

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Monday, January 29, 2018 12:11 AM

Good day, 

Dear Steve, Michael,

Thank you very much, I'm glad that you liked this my galleon's rigging experiments ...

Steve - this is famous Anderson R.C. book "The Rigging of Ships..." https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=Anderson+R.C.&bi=0&bx=off&cm_sp=SearchF-_-Advtab1-_-Results&ds=30&recentlyadded=all&sortby=17&sts=t&tn=The+rigging+of+ships

which You well know I guess...we mentioned it when You was busy with building your nice SR... or we didn't?

at least for me , it is the No 1 book , when need to make rigging Europe or English  ship of late 16th or 17th century ...in all details it covers all aspects of rigging of this period...

 

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Posted by kirill4 on Monday, January 29, 2018 12:20 AM

there are some more updates / pictures ...all this was done during last couple of months... and I could say -finaly I reached some  kind of key point ,-during last few days I completed rigging of Main Mast!!! Uph... 

 ... when I look trough my "done" rigging, the most sad or wrong thing wich I did - this is my decision(taken in the begining of rigging/a few years ago )) to use ordinary sewing threads  without making normal" rope " even using simpleast/hand made rope making machine... it was stupid ... but ...now I have what I have , and what you can see - for example riging of small sails , like topgallant ...on macro foto -looks very rough... I'm very sorry for that :)... next model rigging will be done with "normal" made ropes... :)))

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, January 29, 2018 12:48 AM

thank's kirill , I even have it on kindle book's . my computer crashed and I forgot I had kindle , re down loaded the app , and my book's were back , my memory is just getting worse , old age unfortunately .

 

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Monday, January 29, 2018 12:57 AM

steve5

..... my memory is just getting worse , old age unfortunately .

Good day Steve... often feel the same Big Smile... especialy in the begining , after some idle period of model bulding ... need a week to concentrate and try to remember ,what I did before ,where I stopped last time :)))!

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Posted by warshipguy on Monday, January 29, 2018 5:27 AM

Kirill,

Incredible!  Your work is stunning!  It's great to have you back!

Bill

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, January 29, 2018 6:05 AM

It is good to see you back Kirill.

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Posted by Mark Carroll on Monday, January 29, 2018 10:41 AM

Just caught your post Kirill. What beautiful work! I have a Revell Spanish Galleon and because of your post makes me anxious to start on it! I know plastic doesn't hold a candle to all wood but what a great cha!!enge to try and make it look like it! I will be looking forward to your next posting.What's next after this one?

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Monday, January 29, 2018 10:55 AM

Good day,

Dear friends ,

Thank you very much for your "wellcome" words and attention to this project.

Mark, Thanks for your attention,...my next project... I'm not sure yet ...- most probably -Soleyl Royal kit

There are some more pictures of current construction - two masts remain - mizzen mast and bonaventur mast.

before start mizzen mast rigging /shrouds, need to make and install   bonaventur mast stay , including stay collar and blocks- lower part of the stay.

This collar I did 3 times, first two attempts were unsuccesful due to I did :

*mistake with collar construction - made it too complicate for such small and light stay...

*second time I did wrong size of the collar- did it the same diameter as stay, but it should be 0.7-0.75 of stay diameter 

*third time I made it more or less right/correctly , as I understood it of course.. :) and left this version as final...

             

         

this was second try

 and third and final variant :

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Posted by dafi on Monday, January 29, 2018 12:39 PM
WHAT! A! TREAT! XXXDAn
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Posted by kirill4 on Friday, February 2, 2018 2:10 PM

Good day( morning... evening :)))

Dear friends, 

Commenced mizzen mast shrouds...

               

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Friday, February 2, 2018 2:12 PM

there are a few comments to pictures posted above

the number of mizzen shrouds in this kit is given in odd, so the last shroud Iput with the imitation of a "cut-splice"

 ... but I'm not sure that I did it correctly and appropriately ...

 it would probably be more logical to combine the first shroud and the mast tackle pendant ...? 

The strapping of the upper deadeyes I tried to do partly using the information from Anderson's book, in regard to the direction in which the shroud turns into a deadeye, considering its" hawser -laid" type of the rope, in the same way as they are rigged on the replica of the small Dutch "galleon" Duyfken .. . 

As I could see there is no" throat seizing" in use ? probably with such a form of deadeyes, this is not necessary

-I also did not make a" throat seizing" simulation,but only three "round seizing" ...

By the way, I did  wrong shape of deadeyes ... I had to make them flat! .... teardrop shaped, but flat ...

 

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Friday, February 2, 2018 2:15 PM

Dear friends,

today evening nearly finished rigging mizzen mast shrouds, and completed mizzen stay...

at the end of shrouds seizing, found that shrouds of port and starbord side are different in lenght :)))

sbs became shorter in 2-3mm :(( when  making seizing I didn't noted that sbs carton template bended more than ps template, as a result - shrouds became shorter)... but it was too late when I noted it, at this stage, to make correction, so, I desided to leave it like this...

 

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, February 2, 2018 2:26 PM

kirill

love watching this build , you really are a master of the rigging . as to the " error's" you made , on that scale , it would be nearly impossible to see with the naked eye .

steve5

 

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  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Friday, February 2, 2018 3:45 PM

kirill4

Dear friends,

today evening nearly finished rigging mizzen mast shrouds, and completed mizzen stay...

at the end of shrouds seizing, found that shrouds of port and starbord side are different in lenght :)))

sbs became shorter in 2-3mm :(( when  making seizing I didn't noted that sbs carton template bended more than ps template, as a result - shrouds became shorter)... but it was too late when I noted it, at this stage, to make correction, so, I desided to leave it like this...

(see pictures above)
 

 

  Kirill,

  This is a fantastic Build with attention to the finest detail. Thank you. And Thank You for this Thread on "thread".  Your rigging is superb.  Ваша оснастка превосходна.

    Nino.

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Posted by LIVIT on Friday, February 2, 2018 9:57 PM

Wow ! I want to be a rigging master like you when I grow up. I have just finished reading all this thread and what a beautiful superb build it is. I learned alot. Any mistakes you claim you did are not obvious to us mere mortals. Thanks for sharing.... Dale

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:59 PM

Good day,

Dear Nino and Livit,

I'm very glad that you found this building report interesting ,and thank you very much for your comments :)... it gives me a push to continue rigging ... frankly speaking , I feel tied a little bit from this project Bang Head... too much ...endless knots and seizings...:)))

however ,some small updates- completed lanyards decoration...each lanyards loop around shroud was fixed by CA gel , and final result was "painted and stained"

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Posted by 1943Mike on Saturday, February 3, 2018 10:08 PM

Kirill4,

That you are a little tired of the rigging is very understandable. You must know, however, that your WIP is a revelation to many on this site as to what can be acomplished with skill, intelligence, stamina and perserverance. This has to be one of the finest models nearing completion that I'll ever have the privelege of witnessing.

If you feel a lack of motivation just remember that you are helping many modelers by showing how you have built this ship to this point. Take as many breaks from the tasks as you need to rejuvinate your original impetus to create as accurate and beautiful a ship model as you can ... you certainly are!!

In case I forget, Happy Birthday on the 21st of this month!!

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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  • From: Asheville, NC
Posted by LIVIT on Saturday, February 3, 2018 10:49 PM

1943Mike

Kirill4,

That you are a little tired of the rigging is very understandable. You must know, however, that your WIP is a revelation to many on this site as to what can be acomplished with skill, intelligence, stamina and perserverance. This has to be one of the finest models nearing completion that I'll ever have the privelege of witnessing.

If you feel a lack of motivation just remember that you are helping many modelers by showing how you have built this ship to this point. Take as many breaks from the tasks as you need to rejuvinate your original impetus to create as accurate and beautiful a ship model as you can ... you certainly are!!

In case I forget, Happy Birthday on the 21st of this month!!

 

 

Well said Mike ! I also want to wish you an early Happy Birthday and many more years of amazing building...   Dale

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Saturday, February 3, 2018 10:57 PM

Dear Mike,

Thank You very much for support words and your attention to this project , I will continue and have intention to complete mizzen mast rigging( at least, this mast need to be done) in this my vacation ...:)))

Thanks for my " coming"  Happy Birthday congratulations :)))

Dear Dale,

Thank You very much.

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:41 PM

same here kirill , happy birthday mate . please continue with this build , i , we are learning so much for you my friend . I have never seen rigging like this , especially on a model of this size . I think the prof. was the only person I have seen come close ,

steve5

 

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Sunday, February 4, 2018 12:45 AM

Good day Steve,

Thanks ! :)))

for support and words... 

Would like tobshare with you ...there is kind of mental kick, I 've got recently... I mean this artist watercolor pictures - some kind og kindom of presision details ...hard to believe how man can do this!!!Didn't see his works before and now

Loved his style of painting a lot :)))

I found his works when Couple of days ago I visited one of modern art exibition in museum ERARTA , here, in St.Peterburg...

there were more artists and "art objects" represented , most of them looks like metal scrab/garbage, by my opinion... :)))

but this artist, was like pearl between them

     

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