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1/350 Dragon USS Chevalier DD-805 Finished

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Posted by Revenant on Saturday, January 7, 2017 11:25 AM

Stick out tongueBased on my extensive and expensive research, the pic of 710 is the most accurate color (sort of a slate grey/blue). The other is just too blue.  Also, the colors topside (horizontal areas) should be the same...

Of course, I could be wrong...

 

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Posted by Revenant on Saturday, January 7, 2017 11:39 AM

Revenant

Stick out tongueBased on my extensive and expensive research, the pic of 710 is the most accurate color (sort of a slate grey/blue). The other is just too blue.  Also, the colors topside (horizontal areas) should be the same...

Of course, I could be wrong...

 

 

I think this is the most accurate (I'd probably go with this and add just a tad more blue to the hue):

Lots of variations out there though, but it seems that "scale effect" has not been applied to these colors--they seem to bright and rich:

 

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, January 7, 2017 10:04 PM

Well, as a reference, please consider USS Texas which is fitted out to appear as she did in support of the Iwo Jia campaign.

Please note, during the 1989-1991 refit, the colors were extensively researched and color atched before being applied at the Todd Shipyards in Galveston.

Deck Blue:

This hull color will be close to that used i nthe Pacific:

Which can look very "blue"

Steel decks are a similar color to the wood:

USN chose 20B as a deck clor as it was a similar hue as deep ocean water

Scale effect will be required, along with grains of salt.

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Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, January 8, 2017 8:01 AM

How did I miss this thread?  Beautiful work on the PE!  I love these Dragon 1/350 DD kits, and wish that they would manufacture a square bridge Fletcher and Cold War DDs such as the Adams class and Forrest Sherman class ships.

Bill

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Posted by Revenant on Sunday, January 8, 2017 11:30 AM

warshipguy

How did I miss this thread?  Beautiful work on the PE!  I love these Dragon 1/350 DD kits, and wish that they would manufacture a square bridge Fletcher and Cold War DDs such as the Adams class and Forrest Sherman class ships.

Bill

 

Ditto

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Posted by surfsup on Monday, January 9, 2017 7:35 PM

Ditto. That is some great P/E work you are doing my Friend.....Cheers Mark

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Posted by fermis on Monday, January 16, 2017 11:30 PM

ToastToast

 

Progressing slowly on this one. 

A bit of a PITA figuring out when to paint what, as some areas need to be painted before other parts are added.

Getting there though. Still have the light grey to do (obviously)...I'm really looking forward to all the masking... Confused

 

 

 

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Posted by Revenant on Wednesday, January 18, 2017 11:39 AM

fermis

ToastToast

 

Progressing slowly on this one. 

A bit of a PITA figuring out when to paint what, as some areas need to be painted before other parts are added.

Getting there though. Still have the light grey to do (obviously)...I'm really looking forward to all the masking... Confused

 

 

 

 

Good color choices...

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Posted by Revenant on Monday, January 23, 2017 9:21 AM

Confused

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Posted by fermis on Monday, January 23, 2017 9:27 AM

Finally got the gumption to do all the masking and paint the light grey. 3 hours of masking...for 5 minutes of painting [bored] 

 

 

 

 

Nothing but fiddly bits now....

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Posted by Revenant on Monday, January 23, 2017 10:43 AM

Looks good...the base looks smaller with the ship on it...Huh?

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Posted by 1943Mike on Monday, January 23, 2017 11:23 AM

I sympathize with you regarding the time ratio of masking to painting - it's just what one has to deal with when building ships like the ones we're building. In your case you're doing an exceptionally neat job.

 

Mike

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Posted by fermis on Monday, January 23, 2017 11:31 AM

1943Mike

I sympathize with you regarding the time ratio of masking to painting - it's just what one has to deal with when building ships like the ones we're building. In your case you're doing an exceptionally neat job.

 

Prep is a B!+@#...when I was doing paver patios...it could take 3 guys 3 days to prep...I could lay all the pavers (where the money is made) in less than half a day. Even now, seal coating driveways...2-3 hours of prep, for 1/2 an hour of money makin! It's fun to complain about...it's all part of the job.

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Posted by Revenant on Wednesday, January 25, 2017 7:45 AM

1943Mike

I sympathize with you regarding the time ratio of masking to painting - it's just what one has to deal with when building ships like the ones we're building. In your case you're doing an exceptionally neat job.

 

 

Ditto

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Posted by Revenant on Friday, January 27, 2017 9:47 AM

Stick out tongueUpdate please...

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Posted by fermis on Friday, January 27, 2017 2:31 PM

Decals done.

All the deck walkway decals are black..on the paper...put em on the model and they're purple (???)...the world wonders.

 

 

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Posted by Revenant on Friday, January 27, 2017 10:19 PM

Stick out tongueWow...she's coming together nicely...

...maybe you put em on upside down???

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:05 PM

Revenant

Stick out tongueWow...she's coming together nicely...

...maybe you put em on upside down???

 

I am still curious about it...if that's right or not.

Also...who's got a good go-to source for some anchor chain? The kit comes with some PE "chain"...but it's flat and looks stupid. I'd like to replace it with some real chain. I'd like to get a decent length of it...I have 2 more Destroyers stashed that are gonna need it too.

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:10 PM

try your local craft store . or a jewelry shop

 

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Posted by ejhammer on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 8:39 PM

I've used this stuff, 3-d printed. Called "stud link anchor chain. Has the center bar in each link just like the real stuff.

3 sizes, 7 1/2 links / inch, 9 1/2 links / inch, 11 1/2 links / inch.

Came from Floating Drydock.

 

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:56 PM

fermis
I guess, what I need to know is, is there much difference between the darker sides and the deck? In those builds above, I'm not picking up any difference between the sides and deck.

Note that last photo.  There's a stark contrast between deck and horizontal.  The color for the horizontals ought to be as deep and dark as the ocean.

Photos of other builds can be misleading as you never know what camera correction was applied, or if a given monitor is rendering that photo correctly; and that also presumes that the model itself has the contrast--it might, it might not.

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Posted by Revenant on Wednesday, February 1, 2017 8:12 AM

ejhammer

I've used this stuff, 3-d printed. Called "stud link anchor chain. Has the center bar in each link just like the real stuff.

3 sizes, 7 1/2 links / inch, 9 1/2 links / inch, 11 1/2 links / inch.

Came from Floating Drydock.

 

 

 

 

Surprise...Verlinden used to put out some different sized chains for armor models...the real fine sizes seemed to be about right for 1/350 scale.  There's a few other companies that also make chains, primarily for armor, but will work for ships as well...

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Posted by Revenant on Wednesday, February 1, 2017 7:30 PM

MoonBy the time this is posted it will have fallen waaaaaay back in the thread and be useless because I'm being moderated, but I think the colors and walkways look fine.  If they were solid black they would look too harsh...

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, February 2, 2017 12:47 PM

I picked up the smallest chain I could find (at Michaels)...way too big, compared to the PE stuff.

 

ejhammer

I've used this stuff, 3-d printed. Called "stud link anchor chain. Has the center bar in each link just like the real stuff.

3 sizes, 7 1/2 links / inch, 9 1/2 links / inch, 11 1/2 links / inch.

Came from Floating Drydock.

 

 

I really like this...but even that smallest size looks to be the same size, or close enough...to the stuff I got.

Could it be that the pe is just too small???

 

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, February 2, 2017 12:53 PM

Here's a comparison shot...

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Posted by Revenant on Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:18 PM

fermis

Here's a comparison shot...

 

Looks good to me...I'd just paint it a very dark steel color...no rust...

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Posted by ejhammer on Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:56 PM

Don't know. I just liked the realistic "center Bar" links. Aboard ESSEX, the anchor chains had links that were about 24" long or so with those bars. I used the smallest size for my 1/350 carrier models. Just liked the way it came out, although the scale might be off a bit.

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:57 PM
Absolutely beautiful job on her fermis! I wish I could be half as good with PE.

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Posted by Revenant on Friday, February 3, 2017 3:02 PM

Very nice...

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Posted by fermis on Monday, February 6, 2017 10:09 AM

Spent all of yesterdays bench time adding tiny bits to this ship. I feel like I added 100 pieces, and nothing changed. Very tedious work, especially trying to clean up the snip points. Words, I can not repeat, were spoken.

 

 

Question now...I painted all the guns black....cuz...guns are black! The bigger guns though...should they be black???

 

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