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Posted by MBT70 on Monday, February 13, 2006 11:25 AM

If ypu can find it, a good old-style WW II movie is "Stand by For Action," Then there is one about British Corvettes called "The Cruel Sea."  I agree that Jutland would make an awesome movie, properly done, and perhaps something on the pursuit of the Graf Spee, if it hasn't been done already.

 

And, yes, Salamis and Lepanto would be great with the ancient Persian/Greek fleets and the Crusaders driven back by the Ottoman Empire.

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Posted by kapudan_emir_effendi on Monday, February 13, 2006 9:12 AM

 DanCooper wrote:
Maybe an idea for a new career, Kapudan, write a script and try to sell to Peter Jackson Smile [:)]

Just imagine all the kits you could buy if he's actually interested in your writings.

Big Smile [:D] what a brillant idea Mr. Cooper ! in fact, one of my close friends is a professional scriptwriter and has signed some of the most succesful turkish miniseries scripts recently shown or are being currently shown on the TV. He's an absolute military history buff, we play warhammer 40k tabletop wargame's second world war version together. His longtime dream is a short movie project about the experience of a turkish soldier in first world war. I'd really wish that your proposal had the chance to come into reality. But seriously, we all may have a pleasant surprise from Peter Jackson in a near future. I've often read that one his dreams is making a real large scale gallipoli campaign movie. I dont remember when or where I've read but, he stated that after finishing hobbit the movie, his next project should be gallipoli. Considering the fortune he made from Lord of the Rings and the high level credit he enjoys in hollywood, he can amass the capital needed for a gigantic project. And who knows, we may even watch the 18th march naval attack to dardanelles and the sinking of HMS Goliath by the destroyer Muavenet-i Millet (whose captain's picture is my avatar). Hollywood seems to have rediscovered history in the recent years and this shall allow us to revive the events that shaped the world we are living today.

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Posted by cthulhu77 on Monday, February 13, 2006 8:13 AM

  Hey, Martin's newest junkpile : the pink panther, made the #1 spot here this weekend.  Good god, what a travesty.

  " Below" was a great flick, I thought...creepy and fun.  I like almost any film with ships, correct or not, but my favourite ship series were the absolutely brilliant A/E Horatio Hornblower movies.  You can buy the boxed set now for around 40 bucks...worth every penny.  Fun to watch, lots of sailing ship action, and even the ladies seem to like it. My wife is hooked on them now !

    Hate to say it, but "Operation Petticoat" is one of my favourite ship movies, as well as "Call to Action"...back when they WROTE scripts, and didn't rely solely on effects and crappy acting.

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Posted by DanCooper on Monday, February 13, 2006 8:08 AM
Maybe an idea for a new career, Kapudan, write a script and try to sell to Peter Jackson Smile [:)]

Just imagine all the kits you could buy if he's actually interested in your writings.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 13, 2006 7:24 AM

Need a first class script to appeal to today's audience. Have script, movie to follow. Ships are only background. Plot and actors/actresses make the movie. Might be an ideal time in view of the dismal films shown in 2005. Too much garbage on the big screen now.

NB: It is all about Money. Show Hollywood how to make money on historical topics and films will follow. Lately, seems to be sequel or Television series or comic book remakes. I was a DC Comics reader back in the day, all of this Marvel Comics stuff is unknown to me. Imagine a Weird War film or Sgt. Rock or Haunted Tank. Any see "Below" ?  A  film in 2002 about a haunted WWII US submarine in European waters.  Sort of a weird war story.

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Posted by kapudan_emir_effendi on Monday, February 13, 2006 7:23 AM
Of course its all about bucks and profit but, fairly good scenarios can be made out of the stories of those ironclads I think. The most promising story is that of CSS Albemarle. Her building, her attack to blockading fleet and her destruction are enough for a scenario isn't it ? if you want, add some fictitious love story or something for the main guy. Only show me that ironclad in action, that's sufficent to me Wink [;)]
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Posted by scottrc on Monday, February 13, 2006 7:06 AM
The movie "Ironclads" came out in 1991 and has been on the Turner (TNT) channel a few times.  Not bad but is also kind of chick and PC so the actual history was pure hollywood hocum.  My local Blockbuster has it.  It did have some good scenes of what splinters do to crews when a wooden ship if struck by cannon balls and good ship scenes.

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:17 PM

Yes, good luck getting what you wish. I'd love to see a "Battle of Jutland", but of course a lack of romance would doom it in theatres.

I concur about a good ironclad movie. I thought some of the special effects in the Monitor movie were pretty decent. However, again, few of the fairer sex would sit and watch a movie about the Civil War sans romance. Many of todays teens and so forth would equally be bored. It would be a History Channel offering ar best. Hmmm.....Ted Turner has a thing or two for Civil War projects, maybe we could contact him.

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Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, February 12, 2006 6:23 PM

I sincerely doubt if you will ever see a successful movie of the type you speak that is faithful to history and accuracy.

Why?  Its all about the Benjamins!  Its all about the money!   The movie studios know that it will cost them big bucks to make accurate re-creations and sets.   The movie studios know that in order to maximize the number of butts in the seats they need to get the women involved.  Make it a chick flick or at least one that the women won't mind seeing.

The new movie on the Yamato which is either out now in Japan or out soon has been described as a sentimental story of the youn sailors remembering home as they sail to their certain death.   Big accurate set - but a dog of a story.   It won't last a month in American theatres.   Probably the same elsewhere.

Titanic was a chick flick.   Pearl Harbor was a chick flick with ships and planes hoping the guys who came with the chicks would stay awake. 

Go rent some of the good old wartime films from WWII or Korea.   They're full of rousing action and some real equipment.  So what if the special effects are hokey.

Its all about the money - and that genre' of movie is not popular any more

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naval warfare movies
Posted by kapudan_emir_effendi on Sunday, February 12, 2006 4:25 PM

The proliferation of historical movies in the last years gave me the hopes of seeing more naval movies. We have one masterpiece about u-boats (das boot) and one about sailing era (master and commander). Now we need one about ironclads, one about dreadnought era and one about galley age. I assume that most of the gentlemen here have seen the movie "sahara". that 3rd class action have one merit: the first five minutes shows that with enough preparations (and money of course Smile [:)]) a decent and working ironclad can be recreated. I think a very good movie can be made about a clash of those odd leviathans. (the TV movie of monitor and merrimack is pitiful). The recreated scenes form James Cameron's "Expedition Bismarck" shows that a proper battleship bismarck movie is well feasible. A battle of Salamis or Lepanto movie shall complete a collection naval warfare history movies. (As of my nationality, I give my vote to lepanto Wink [;)])

ps: just out of curiosity, do you know what happened to the "sahara" ironclad replica ?

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