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Hasegawa Nagato CAD line fix?

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:50 PM

heres another idea try useing mr surfacer apply it to the divots useing a brush.

Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by searat12 on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:35 PM
That might work..... or you could just end up with a bunch of superglue smeared all over the model!  I might give it a try on an inconspicuous spot on the bottom somewhere.... Remember, this is a very expensive model!  Any other ideas?
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Posted by John @ WEM on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 1:10 PM

I'm reminded of a trick I picked up years ago from the aircraft modellers for filling seams: try filling the offending lines with gap-filling super glue, hit it with a bit of accelerator, and as soon as it's set, gently wipe the line with a soft cotton cloth saturated with debonder. Don't wipe too hard or you'll start to remove the super flue from within the line.

Cheers,

John Snyder, White Ensign Models, http://WhiteEnsignModels.com 

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Posted by bertman on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:29 PM
Wow... why would they let that go past the initial testing phase? At first I thought Japanese ships must of had some extra little defensive measure on their sides (kinda like the zimmerment on german tanks) but now I see that it's just horrible iso lines from the CAD program like you were saying. That's really weird. They would have had to purposefully put those in.
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Posted by searat12 on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 8:11 AM

 bertman wrote:
can you post a picture of the CAD lines? I first heard about them here and don't actually know what they are.

Right!  Here are several photos of the CAD lines problem with Nagato.  This first photo shows most graphically the problem (click on the photo of the boarding companionway), and the other two are additional views.

http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3174

http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3734

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/internethobbies/has40024flarge.jpg

Here is a video of the real Nagato for comparison:  http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNFQhoMlpwP4

A schematic drawing: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/japan/nagato-bb-schem.htm

and a few more photos at:  http://www.seawolfproductions.com/Shipwreck%20Museum/Bikini%20Wrecks/Nagato/himjs_nagatoweb.htm

And here is an example of a CAD program in use for lofting a ship:   http://www.worldwideflood.com/CAD/start.htm

 

Note, in NONE of the many book photos I have of Nagato (and Mutsu as well), many of them from very close range, do any of these CAD lines show up as 'plate lines,' and in fact have no relationship to any of the actual steel plates on the real ship. For those of you that have also bought the 1/350 Fujimi 'Kongo,' a ship built of similar technology, you need only glance at the hull molds in comparison to see the problem (and you can look at the Trumpeter 'Hood,' etc, etc, etc.). 

 

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Posted by bertman on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:24 PM
can you post a picture of the CAD lines? I first heard about them here and don't actually know what they are.
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Posted by searat12 on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:04 PM
Well, the BIG problem is that a lot of the CAD lines go over some complicated 'terrain,' so I'm not sure how well that trick might work.  Again, these CAD lines have nothing to do with any plate lines, and exchanging these divots for 'weld lines' would not be an improvement (they need to disappear!).
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Posted by smokinguns3 on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:57 PM
Youn Could ssand them down a bit and use some evergreen stock that could replicate weld seems and apply it with proweld or teenex7r just lay the stock or streched sprue acrossed the  seam use tape on eiather  end and apply the liquid cement. hope that helps. or maybe someone else has a better idea.
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Hasegawa Nagato CAD line fix?
Posted by searat12 on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:01 PM
This has been referred to a number of times in other posts, so I thought I would put this question right out front in hopes someone has some good ideas, particularly if they have put those ideas into action!  As we all know, the recently introduced 1/350 'Nagoto' by Hasegawa has one incredible flaw, and that is that the hull is covered with deeply molded lines from whatever CAD program Hasegawa used to make the molds.  Has anyone come up with any sort of quick fix to resolve this issue?  Photos would be a good thing!
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