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Posted by grandadjohn on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 10:03 PM
Maybe with a sex scandel and an attempted murder charge interest will pick up
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Posted by mhvink on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 3:01 PM

In the same vein, someone (I can't remember who) is currently working on a 1/12 Gemini --AND -- Atomic City (who did the original molds for the 1/12 Mercury) is planning a 1/12 Apollo CM/SM.  Won't be cheap -- but WOW!

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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 11:07 AM

 yeti0010 wrote:
I would love to do some space models but I cant afford most of the resin models and the plastic one are not very appealing.  If they started issuing some reasonably priced models with good quality I would buy but I cant find any.

MRC have issued a quite impressive model of the Mercury Spacecraft at 1/12 scale.  There is room for improvements but overall, it's a great multimedia kit with a very well done figure.  For around $60, it's a great model.

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Posted by Yann Solo on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 10:54 AM

I hear you Hans ..... I've built almost everything that was available on the net.  It is a really fun and inxepensive hobby.  And there is plenty of choice.

Have you tried the laser cutted models from spacecraftkits.com or the ones from delta7studios.com ?

They are great

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Posted by mhvink on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 10:48 AM

I agree totally with Hans.  I just completed a 1/48 Gemini-Titan rocket and am currently working on a 1/48 Apollo Saturn V w/ block 2 SM.  Another premium advantage of paper models is that you can "repaint" it to any markings you wish -- and if you make a mistake, you can just print out another replacement part.

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Posted by Hans Christian M. Ben on Tuesday, February 6, 2007 4:42 AM
 Hans Christian M. Ben wrote:

This is the reason I like card models...

Card models offered me a chance to model space subjects that I would never hope to appear on plastic... or if they have it in plastic, I could never hope of buying them because of their high price, or their scarce availability in our place...

At first I could only hope of having one model, but now, I can build anything from mercury to STS, Vostok to Buran, Salyut to ISS (and in large scales to, like 1/96, 1/100, even 1/50)

I forgot to add...

It is thru card models that I was able to build SpaceShipOne & White Knight (in 1/48 & 1/32 scale), and the Ares I & V CEV launchers, plus the spececraft & lunar lander

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Posted by yeti0010 on Monday, February 5, 2007 8:05 PM
I would love to do some space models but I cant afford most of the resin models and the plastic one are not very appealing.  If they started issuing some reasonably priced models with good quality I would buy but I cant find any.
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Posted by sb36 on Monday, February 5, 2007 9:42 AM

I agree. There really isn't a good "detailed" space model out there. Revell made a 1/32 apollo csm at one point I believe. I was rather young and my brother had built it, but it did have a cut away feture that captured my curiosity.  I would Love to see something along the lines of a cut a way Shuttle flight deck, or perhaps a Soyuz TMA, and even one of certain parts of the ISS.The possibilities are endless.

Aftermarket on Space related items is also rather shallow. Perhaps in the future if a manufacturer markets a large scale model like the ones I've listed, then perhaps more people may be inticed to enter the realm of Realspace. I know I would pay good money for one.

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Posted by Hans Christian M. Ben on Monday, February 5, 2007 9:13 AM

This is the reason I like card models...

Card models offered me a chance to model space subjects that I would never hope to appear on plastic... or if they have it in plastic, I could never hope of buying them because of their high price, or their scarce availability in our place...

At first I could only hope of having one model, but now, I can build anything from mercury to STS, Vostok to Buran, Salyut to ISS (and in large scales to, like 1/96, 1/100, even 1/50)

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Posted by thunder1 on Saturday, February 3, 2007 10:38 AM

Wow, it's good to wander off the other forums and take a look around...

  First the question poised is a great one; second the replies to the question are most excellent and well thought out. As to why space isn't more appealing to the masses and model builders...I worked in a hobby shop for a few years and a lot of the "regular" customers had a great interest in space, the ISS and the shuttle program, especially Space Ship one. These guys built military models, cars, and scratch builds but they were "closet space enthusiests"...it was pointed out that you can only build so many shuttle models as opposed to tanks, planes etc. Plus the enjoyment of a shuttle build (to me) would be the accrutraments, the launch tower, assembly, crawler, a possible diorama build. If my memory serves me, Revell offered the shuttle launch assembly ONCE!!, and just building the shuttle by itself is not all that exciting, i.e. the model doesn't offer a lot of detail, similar to the lack of detail of a sub model. Renwal and Revell at least had the right idea to improve the appeal of the sub model by offering a cutaway polaris sub and I'm sure they sold well. In fact Revell's model caused quite a controversy as it "appeared" to have given up the "Top Secret" sub to the world. I'm sure the controversy helped sell models!  Why doesn't Revell offer the Shuttle "Launch Facility" model again, did it sell that poorly?  

Another fact that wasn't  touched on was that missiles and rocket kits didn't sell well, even in the hay-day of the fledgling space program. Most companies like Revell, Monogram and Aurora offered them in their catalog in the late 1950's and were withdrawn after 2 years. This short term model production created a collectors market, ever see how much Revell's Space Station or Moon Rocket go for on that famous on line auction? Revell did offer the History Series models in the early 80's, some of which were rockets and missiles but were only available for a short time. (they also need to re-issue the atomic cannon, I missed that one) So building and acquiring a "Space collection" is spotty at best, new generations who develop an interest in all things space and desire a collection of early space rockets are pretty much out of luck. But at least Glencoe has kept the "dream" alive with it's re-issues of what-the-future-of-space will be models. To me these models were a lot more "fun" than the models of the current space shuttle, at least they were all different. Perhaps a desire to capture the "rush/excitement" of the early space program will keep re-kindle some interest in space models.  The Vanguard rocket , the Space lab, the Sputnik satellite, are part of our space and modeling past, it would be great to see them issued again. And if issued I hope they manufacture more units than the Revell Jupiter C re-Issue, I can't locate one anywhere...   Regards

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Posted by mostlyclassics on Monday, July 17, 2006 9:30 PM

schoonerbumm offers excellent reasons for why space is so neglected, not only in our hobby but in general public consciousness.

With regard to making our space models more personal, it is possible to include non-modeling items on, for instance, our display bases. There are special philatelic covers produced for nearly every flight of any sort. Most are simply "handbacks" (canceled by a postal clerk at the launch site, then handed back to the mailer).

But there are items which have actually flown, from early rocket flights of the 1930's to one Challenger flight in 1983. Here's a picture of one of those flown covers:

http://www.mostlyclassics.net/images/13098.jpg

These run $25.00-30.00, pretty cheap for something which actually orbited the earth.

How about a shuttle model of the Challenger, with or without SRB's and external tank, with one of those covers occupying part of the model's base?

There are also covers which flew on Apollo missions. They are awfully expensive, since they were unauthorized and illegal, but there are good color reproductions available.

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Posted by MortarMagnet on Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:40 PM
Space exploration is only exciting when there is something new happening.  I'm 22, the Space Shuttle came out in 1976 as the Enterprise.  There has been nothing new for manned space flight in my lifetime.  STS had launched how many times... what has it done to captivate American?  It blew up twice.  When I was ten, I was obsessed with the early space program because what it did was exciting and new... and it was new to me.  They put Capt. America on the largest missile ever and shot him into space.  At the end of the flight, he would plunge to Earth in a ball of flames and be rescued by a helicopter in the middle of the ocean.  Now some 50 year-old biochemist flies in the space bus, like it's a commuter flight, nerds it up with some pointless science, ( We managed to grow grass in space!!!) then they land like any other airplane.  It used to be that going to space meant that people were going out into space, and a whole new realm was open to mankind.  Now the airplane flies really high and some boring experiment gets performed.  We model things that interest us, to get the excitement of the real thing when it is unavailable to us.  A Panzer is exciting, a P-51 is exciting, a Corvette is exciting, a bus with wings is not.  The Ford Taurus is not a popular subject, neither is the STS.  That form of space flight is... routine.  It's all my generation and the generation after knows.  You fellows in your 50's and 60's remember how exciting and dynamic the Space Program was.  Now it's satellites and experiments.  No more Heroes planting Old Glory on other worlds.  No one is making the impossible a reality.  It was done because no one did it before, not for science.

I wish that someone would kick start the Space Program, put some life into it.  The biggest mistake ever made, history will show, was when the SP slowed down.  If everything would have kept going, Earth might not be stuck as a closed system.  Our raw materials are diminishing, energy is becoming more scarce, space is limitless in both.  For thirty years, we have missed out on the developments that may have come from space exploration.  Do we have enough time to get caught up?My 2 cents [2c]
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Posted by zipmeister on Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:29 PM

I'll give you my My 2 cents [2c]. I loved space when I was a kid. That's when it was really interesting. I started watch when they launched Gemini. I watched when they lost the video camera on the space walk. That was a great ime to be a kid. Watching Alan Shepard ( my favorite ) hit that golf ball on the moon. What do we have now, a picture of a couple of astronauts doing sommer saults in negative gravity and throwing jello at the camera! I watch and prayed for the Apollo 13. Now that took every tiny brain cell in everyones head to get them back.. and they did! Alive! God bless them people! First cent of myMy 2 cents [2c].

 Cent # 2.... Why don't the modelers in this forum post more pics? I scan this forum every once in a while to see what is up and what you guys are building. I can tell you one thing, and Yann you know what I mean from being in the other forums ( aircraft and armor), nothing gets the blood pumping like looking at the pictures posted! Not only for the modeler looking but also the Modeler posting them! Wow there is nothing like it. I'm very interested in what you modelers are modeling, I want to SEE what you are modeling. Come on post your work. It really will make a difference. Well I'm all out of cents so thank you for your time.SoapBox [soapbox]

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Posted by Vartan041 on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:58 PM

I like Real Space as much as any other modelling genre. However the kits that are stacked up in different closets around the house would tell you that the least of my kits are the Real Space ones. Why? I think it has something to do with scale and detailing. Let's face it, you can't do gauges and seat belts in 1/144th scale (at least I can't). Also there's very little quality research material. Take for instance Squadrons "Space Shuttle" from the walkaround series. No details of cockpits, hatches, the cargo bay, or wheel wells. Just some publicity photos of astronauts waving to the camera or techs painting a logo on a wing.  They probably will not release such material because it is considered secret...which puts a damper on modelers who want to detail their Real Space projects as much as they want to detail a Ford Mustang, a Sherman, or a Spitfire. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 12, 2006 11:04 PM

I saw this thread and figured I would add my My 2 cents [2c].

Why is space so unpopular?

I really can't answer that generalization, what I can do is speak of my own opinion, so prepare for the rambling. Here it comes...

I would like to think one of the main reasons is due to lack of availability. I mean look at what's on the market ( Now I'm going to have to go look! ). Well let's just say this there's not a lot available in my neck of the woods or at least since I've returned to the hobby. I see some Sci-Fi offerings from time to time, but hardly any ( real ) space models. I've been to Hobby Lobby 3 times in the last 2 weeks browsing while my wife shopped for some stuff. I didn't see one space kit. Didn't MRC or someone just recently ( err within the last year ) offer a new kit. Before that when was the last new-release? I found my "Local Hobby Shop" today and went by and didn't see much there in the space category there. I did see shelves and shelves of everything else there though. I've got one more store to go, and I'll be by there tomorrow to visit the local modeling club so I can join up.

There's always Ebay I suppose, I've never bought a kit off of there and I don't know that I ever will, but I've seen what some of the readily available kit's sell for, I guess people don't care about paying $10 more for a model so long as they "won the bid". I'd hate to think of the premiums OOP and rare kits are demanding from there. I guess I could always order from the net, but order what? I don't see many kits that are current in sales flyer's or ads or on the sites either.
So I think there's a serious problem with availability for starters.

NASA still exists? Hell we've got 20 year olds that can't even find Iraq on a map, though it's on the news every night. So is who's doing who in Hollywood, movie reviews, the gadget corner, so on and so forth. The last time NASA got any major news coverage ( more than 10 seconds on a scrolling ticker at the bottom of the screen ) was when there was a catastrophe! I really could go on, but it really won't solve anything...

I haven't built a single space kit yet! I like space and I love science, I just haven't seen anything readily available that spars my interest because when I go to the LHS there's nothing there but Cars, Planes, Ships, and Armor so that's what I build...as I don't feel I should have to pay a "premium" for a 20+ year old kit because some people decide to label them as "collectible".

I'll eventually run across a space kit and build it and I can't wait, well I guess I can or else I would have bought one off of Ebay by now.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 12, 2006 4:57 PM
Personally I find space exploration, the origins of the universe, Mars missions etc fascinating, but to be honest I couldn't think of anything more boring than building a model of a shuttle...and you know what...I can't explain why I feel like that.
Why would I happily build yet another German WWII tank but not even consider a vehicle that takes us to space and back?  I find that interesting and I believe that there lies your problem..but how do you explain interest in a certain topic?

Maybe it's simply the case that people with an interest in military history have a higher modelling take-up rate than those with an interest in space. I guess that's obvious.

Maybe it's because the LHS has walls full of tank and plane kits and buried away down on a shelf is a rocket model. (But this assumes that someone may have walked into the shop looking for a rocket but was persuaded to buy a tank simply because they saw more of them).

I just don't know, for some reason the battles and machines of the wars spark something in me that wants to recreate a small part of it. Space vehicles don't do this for me.

Maybe it's not so much a case of space being so unpopular, but of earthly war machines being extremely popular.



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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 12, 2006 4:52 PM
Personally I find space exploration, the origins of the universe, Mars missions etc fascinating, but to be honest I couldn't think of anything more boring than building a model of a shuttle...and you know what...I can't explain why I feel like that.
Why would I happily build yet another German WWII tank but not even consider a vehicle that takes us to space and back?  I find that interesting and I believe that there lies your problem..but how do you explain interest in a certain topic?

Maybe it's simply the case that people with an interest in military history have a higher modelling take-up rate than those with an interest in space.
Maybe it's because the LHS has walls full of tank and plane kits and buried away down on a shelf is a rocket model. (But this assumes that someone may have walked into the shop looking for a rocket but was persuaded to buy a tank simply because they saw more of them).
I just don't know, for some reason the battles and machines of the wars spark something in me that wants to recreate a small part of it. Space vehicles don't do this for me.

Maybe it's not a case of space being so unpopular but of earthly war machines being extremely popular.



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Posted by NASA 736 on Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:11 AM

A couple of things come to mind...

Cost... Back in the day, a buck got you a decent kit, 2 bucks got you a nicer model kit. Then the biggies were $3.98! A kid could afford those prices, ok so we hunted a few coke bottles to help offset  the cost.  The big bottles were worth a nickle to return! (wow, the big bucks!)  Now you can't get anything with out whipping out the ole $20 bill.(See the nicer kits above.)

Fire the imagnation... In days of yore, the guys at Revell cranked out a few real hot items.. Like that triple booster "Moon Rocket" stack... or the cool Space Station that opened up to reveal the the control rooms and living quaters!  Then there was the Atlas and Launch Pad, later revamped to hold John Glenn's Mercury-Atlas...(all them neat little trucks and figures...sigh...) (I still have the last one I built, on my shelf, circa 1967.)  Then of course there was the ole Monogram Space Taxi, Stombecker with the Disney Rockets from the Man in Space episodes.  Imagine just for a second, a model of the X33 on it's launch pad, or the ISS depicted as the Revell space station of old. (Maybe sold in modules so you could build it as it happens! But openable to view the inside of the thing.)  Or a revamped and accurized 1/48 Apollo Stack. Followed by CEV for comparison. For us oldsters, how about a good 1/48 X-15, X-20, HL-10, HL 20 et al. Maybe even 1/32, (sigh...) but I digress.

Full court press... Von Braun's motto was "Late to bed, early to rise, work hard and advertise!" In the bad old days of (pre Apollo), NASA under took to take an exibit of the space program around the country. It featured demos by scientists, films, full scale mock-ups, (to include an early verson of the proposed Apollo capsule, opened up to a 45 degree angle so you could walk "into it" get a feel for  the thing.) a scientist/engineer in a real space suit, you could talk to him and ask questions. And on and on. the exibit was in Cleveland  for two weeks. I went 6 times (it was free to the public because they had already paid for it.) Oh, and on the way out, at the door, guess who was selling space models? Yep, all of them.

It's going to take that kind of effort to put space back on top again, nothing less.

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Posted by sb36 on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:07 AM

Maybe if they mounted machine guns on the spacecraft, and pin up art on the payload shrouds, then maybe it would be cool enough.

Seriously I doubt no matter how exciting or imaginative things get, real space just doesn't grab John Q Public. All one has to do is look at what the gen public thinks is entertainment, and you have your answer.Wink [;)]

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Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:07 AM

Scott,

space probes can be exciting..!  The stuff that probes such as Pioneer 10 and Voyager 2 (to name but two) have accomplished was amazing and I must have read/seen everything about them.  I even scratchbuilt them.  And unmanned probes have been around well before manned spaceflight.  The Venera series for instance.  In times of tight budgets, manned spaceflight is not the best option.  In any cases, sending men to Jupiter, or Pluto, or beyond, is not practical (yet) and highly dangerous. 

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Monday, April 24, 2006 3:08 PM

I lived and breathed rockets for much of my life. I launched by first Estes rocket in 1962 and later spent 28 years in solid rocket propulsion with a major company. I worked in a variety of applications from large boosters, satellite propulsion, ICBMs to small tactical motors and was involved in the design, manufacture and launching of a variety of vehicles. Over the years I amassed quite a stash of model kits, but most remained unbuilt. Maybe it was because I got to play with the real thing, but I think there were other reasons. 

1.) (real) Space vehicles are not personalized.  There is little opportunity, at first glance, to associate space vehicles with real people. I know very few modelers, today, who build an Me-109, they build Gunther Rall's black 13 Bf-109G2 of 8/JG 52. Few people can tell you what a Lotus 38-Ford was, but most racing buffs can identify Jim Clark's British racing green and yellow #82 as the 1965 Indy 500 winner. There is a mini industry in figuring out Michael Witmann's tank serial numbers. To build the USS Enterprise, you need to know the operational date, camouflage pattern air wings carried, etc.  

The limited number of space vehicles and the fact that they pretty much all looked the same makes the 'return business' and research aspects of space models self limiting. (We need nose art on the shuttle...)  As a direct participant, I can tell you the difference between the pre- and post 1986 Titan 34Ds, but the detail level on available models wouldn't show it.  

2.) Compared with the options available in the passive video and interactive computer media, (real) space models don't offer as much 'participant association'. Many contributors to this thread have mentioned the fascination with computer games, movies and TV shows, but another major player is the lack of opportunity for 'imaginative interaction'. 

With other model subjects, much of the 'genius' associated with the operation of the subjects, and the research on the operation is tied to the occupants...  the fighter tactics used by the individual pilots, the development of individual tank battles, tradeoffs between different fighting styles, the wheel to wheel duels between famous drivers.  With space subjects, most of the 'genius' is hidden in the design process. From the observer's perspective, they all make a lot of noise and smoke and then disappear in a straight line. The spacecraft occupants are pretty much pasengers for most of the flight. 

Also, the technologies involved in the devleopment of cars, tanks and aircraft are visible to a large extent in the models. Technological evolution in spacecraft is virtually invisible. The currenlty proposed mars rocket (which I doubt will ever fly) looks like something made by a 12 year old out of his spares box, but bears little resemblance, technically, to the original 'derivative' vehicles. Materials and electronic advances are invisible.    

3.) Of course another 'imagination' and emotional association issue is the fantasy of actual participation in the aerospace industry. The NASA of Von Braun and the WWII/cold war generation was a dynamic and inspiring organization. NASA was about the future and improvements for mankind. The 'politicization' of NASA over the last 30 years has resulted in an organization that is less than awe inspiring. It is now lead by politcally appointed bean counters and lawyers and staffed using criteria similar to the Departments of Motor Vehicles ('nuff said). Not too attractive to my imagination.

    

 

 

 

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Posted by gulfstreamV on Monday, April 24, 2006 12:44 AM
Space is not unpopular, My Dad used to say " All you do is take up SPACE in school !!
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Posted by dkmacin on Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:32 AM
It is not UNpopular, it is just popular with less people.
The reason are as varied and diverse as are the opinions,and many have it right on the head.
I myself believe that space has less people interested in it because it is not 'everyday'. A fire truck, a racecar, an airplane,or even a tank, can be viewed almost every day, but a space vehicle? Unless we can connect it to a tragedy, just isn't deemed interesting enough for coverage.
For me Space is history. I remember the end of the Mercury program,the Gemini program and the Apollo program.It was right there in my living room with Walter Conkite. I remember his sincere, no nonsense approach and sense of awe. I remember his tears as he told us that Grissom,White and Chaffe had all died in the Apollo 1 fire. The nation was interested in "our" boys as "we" beat the Russians again and again! Even Apollo 13 was a victory of man over machine and the harsh element of space.
The media left the space program when adventure/danger and tragedy did. Men on the moon was hoohum compared to Vietnam and protestors.
The Shuttle brought it back, in a way. It was new, never attempted, and NASA had the forsight to include the crew of the Hollywood Enterprise (NCC1701), to view the landing test of the shuttle Enterprise.
But again, space was doomed to the back burner as "The Shuttle" was not an everyday event and pretty "boring". It went up, did it's job and came back .
I am lucky enough to have an observatory a few miles from my house. So I still have "it", the interest in space exploration and travel. Those that have an interest in history may still have it too, but until it is back in the headlines I doubt you will see an over all interest.
Try this trick on your kids science class: "when was the last full moon?"
I submit it was in 1969, as Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins brought some of it back to Earth with them!
(Providing you are willing to endure the discussion of "Anceint history".)

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:20 AM

I think a lot of it has to do with that 1) the field is rather limited as far as modeling goes. 2) the kits in existence are not that challenging (unless you really go into details).

Im doing research for a scratchbuild of modern IRBMs and ICBMs like the SS-25, SS-27, DF-31 etc. Probably in the 1:128 or 1:144 scale. The plan is to model about 15-20 missiles. I built the US/USSR kit from monogram, but its a bit dated.

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Posted by Lufbery on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:08 PM
Hi all,

I wonder if the recent Space Shuttle tragedy hasn't put a major damper on this segment of the hobby.

In any event, I'm 32, so I'm old enough to remember the excitement of the Saturn V launches and the Apollo missions, though not old enough to remember them myself. I grew up wanting to be an astronaut too.

However, I'm not as jaded as some posters here. I am excited about the Space Shuttles. I am very excited about the various unmanned probes we've sent throughout the solar system (and beyond). I avidly followed the first Mars Rover mission on the Web, and have followed the following missions too.

I'd love to build models of the ISS and the Mars rovers. Frankly, I'm very excited about the proposed missions to the Moon and Mars, but I'm doubtful they'll ever happen. Sad [:(]

I fully intend to build some real space models -- especially a Space Shuttle and the ISS.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, April 17, 2006 7:51 AM

Real and proposed space craft were hot during the space race. Every America model company had some sort of real life of proposed space craft (Willy Ley designed for example) in their lines. When the space race ended, interest in these models waned.

The emergence of the space shuttle renewed interest in space craft models. Other newsworthy space incidents such as the Challenger disaster, Mir space station and the faulty Hubble telescope spurred another reawakening.

Currently, the race to get a new space craft into the sky failed to capture the attention of a major manufacturer, but garage kits popped up of the various types of space craft used.

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Posted by scottrc on Friday, April 14, 2006 9:30 AM
I think NASA and the space societies are going out of their way to make it boring.  Gone are the days of great big, thundering rockets like the Saturn and supersized space planes such as the Space Shuttle, which seems to be able to do just about anything but fly to the moon, manned by cocky, cool, test pilots.

We are now using probes that are about as exciting  to watch as a microwave cook a turkey, new spaceships that are nothing but a recycled space shuttle booster with a little Apollo capsule on top, and astronauts are nerdy PHds that talk nothing but rats, gasses, and rocks.  Also, space is regarded to be explored in a safe and cost structured manner, by politically correct people, which again, does not attract the attention of the media unless something goes wrong.

I grew up watching man land on the moon, and remember how exciting it was when Columbia touched down for the first time at Edwards in 1981.  When I see the current and future plans for the space program, I do not have much hope in that its going to attract the mass of interest as it did during the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, Viking, Voyeger, and the Shuttle eras.

Scott



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    February 2003
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by cassibill on Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:00 PM
I'm 22 and so the only space program I've known is the shuttle, but I remember building one when I was 7 or 8.  I'm also a Trekkie.  I run Einstein (1550 hours) to help find graviton waves and SETI(610 hrs logged and it's running now) on my computer.  I've got a healthy interest in space but I didn't get to watch it like you guys did.  If I had a way to watch every launch, I would.  If people could see they would probably get more interested in it, but this generation has been denied the opportunity.

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  • Member since
    April 2005
  • From: Baton Rouge, LA
Posted by T_Terrific on Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:41 PM

For my My 2 cents [2c]

From my standpoint, as a kid that built both Mercury and Atlas rocket models, as well as the German V-1 and V-2, the Japanese Baka, the X-15, the Hawk Me-163, and so on, I find the subject quickly runs out of variety of designs and markings, unlike the typical WWII warbird or armor subject.

That's not saying I won't build another SR-71 Blackbird, but I'm having much more fun with Messerschmidt's right now Big Smile [:D]

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  • Member since
    February 2005
  • From: Raleigh (NCSU)
Posted by Jabbe on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:44 PM
Guys, you're totally missing the newest, biggest spark. It was a supernova!

As one of the "younger generation" (if I can still call myself that, currently in college), there are a lot of us interest in space. It just normally stops at books and theory classes though. There are a lot of guys in our aerospace program that want to work on space stuff (I'm an airplane guy myself), and there are lots of small projects being done at all sorts of research universities. What's sad is that this really cool stuff dosn't get published to a large audience.

But the "spark", or "supernova" that I was referring to, was Space Ship One. It went into space (granted, not that high) twice, and for a lot cheaper than NASA could ever do it. Other firms are building rockets that can send satellites into space for under a million dollars. My friends, we are on the verge of the Private Space Race, and as an aero engineer, I plan to be on one of the racing teams.
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