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Model Master acrylics (My first try with them)

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  • From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
Posted by maddafinga on Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:57 AM
I'm a bit jealous. I live off of the Folgers I keep in my freezer. I use the darkest I can find. Good beans are very expensive and I don't think I could keep up. It's not like you can sell this stuff on a street corner to support your habit.
Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by maddafinga

I'm a bit jealous. I live off of the Folgers I keep in my freezer. I use the darkest I can find. Good beans are very expensive and I don't think I could keep up. It's not like you can sell this stuff on a street corner to support your habit.


You shouldn't store coffee in the freezer, especially whole beans as the freezer dries out the natural oils in the bean. Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by chriscarl on Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:07 PM
I've had good luck with the MM Acryl paints when I follow the recommendations at the Testors website (www.testors.com) for thinning ratios. Look up your paint by number and see; no comment on thinning means you don't need to thin. Hope this helps.

Chris
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:35 PM
you guys are killin' me, im gonna have to go and try this stuff again! i hadn't touched my hobby in 3 weeks because its crunch time on the house im building. gots to close on the sucker in 3 weeks and i just got the cabinets built! anyway, i read these posts and wonder if i shouldnt go back, dust off the old poly and mm bottles and experiment yet again. i havent tried thinning them with distilled water and tamiya thinner.Sigh [sigh]Confused [%-)]speakin of the coffee bean thing, i was in the navy years back and we had to stand long boring watches in the combat information center. one nite, i was repeatedly head butting the console i was assigned to Sleepy [|)]Zzz [zzz]Black Eye [B)], this guy woke me from my slumber and said "here, eat these man!". they were chocolate covered coffee beans he had picked up from some country we had visited. i ate about a dozen before i could stop myself. wide awake for 36 hrs with plenty of energy to spare!!!!!! later
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 24, 2004 3:21 PM
I just used polyscale paints in my paasche H today and they worked great. I know that polyscale and MM are both owned by testors. Are they similar
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Posted by maddafinga on Saturday, January 24, 2004 6:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

QUOTE: Originally posted by maddafinga

I'm a bit jealous. I live off of the Folgers I keep in my freezer. I use the darkest I can find. Good beans are very expensive and I don't think I could keep up. It's not like you can sell this stuff on a street corner to support your habit.


You shouldn't store coffee in the freezer, especially whole beans as the freezer dries out the natural oils in the bean. Wink [;)]

Mike


Well I buy the pre ground as I don't have a grinder. That is a good tip, I've always kept it in the freezer on the assumption it'd keep it from getting stale once it was opened. I'll have to transfer to the pantry I suppose.

Chris, are you sure they were just coffee beans? I suppose you had no trouble getting through the watch after that eh?
Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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Posted by saltydog on Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:04 PM
well josh, they looked and tasted like chocolate covered coffee beans. the guy that handed them to me was clean cut lifer. can't never tell though.Whistling [:-^]
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by maddafinga on Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

well josh, they looked and tasted like chocolate covered coffee beans. the guy that handed them to me was clean cut lifer. can't never tell though.Whistling [:-^]



Big Smile [:D]
Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 26, 2004 2:39 AM
No, Polly Scale and Model Master Acryl are different formulations.
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Posted by plasticmod992 on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 4:56 AM
Just completed my test of the MM Acryl paint with some intersting results. The colors I tested were the Navy Gray, Flat Black and Flat White. I started off by thinning the paints using the manufactuers thinner, then house-hold thinners such as distilled water and alcohol, and finally comercially available diluats such as Golden brand Airbrush medium and like. For the tests I used my Iwata Revolution HP-CR. With each color I tested general spraying and fine-line work. Starting with the Navy Gray I thinnned the paint 2:1 using the Testors thinner. I set the compressor to approx. 15psi and sprayed a sheet of styrene. The paint sprayed great, smooth thin, even film resulted but 2 minutes into spraying, the airbrush tip began to dry and clog. A quick wipe of the tip with Testors Dried Piant Solvent cured this and painting was resumed. Next I thinned the Gray with distilled water at the same ratio. The resulting spray film was very smooth on the styrene but the spraying characteristics were very intermitted, unpredictable and a steady spray could not be maintained for any length of time. As with the Acryl thinner the airbrush clogged fast. I then tried thinning with 70% Isoprohpol Alcohol at the same ratio. While stirring the paint mix in a spare film canistir it began to thicken rapidly and suddenely coagulate into a disgusting sludge! I then tried the Gray with Golden Airbrush Medium; an airbrush thinner intended for use for Golden Acrylics airtists airbrush paints. I thinned the Acryl Gray at the same ratio and the result was very smooth spraying, little to no clogs of the airbrush, and I smooth paint film on the styrene. Now very curious, I tried the Flat Black and Flat White colors with the same results! The next phase was fine-line spraying. I thinned the paints at a 1:1 mix with an approx psi of about 9 or so and began spraying a camo-outline on a scrap model. The result was very surprising; I was able to maintain a very thin line of approx 1/16 inch, there was no clogging on the airbrush tip, and the resulting paint film was smooth. Clean up was best with Testors Acryl Dried Paint Solvent. Windex did ok to fush the airbrush between colors but didn't budge the dried paint in the color cup or paint passages. So as it stands for me right now, it seems that Golden Airbrush Medium worked the best at thinning, performance, and integrity of the paint film on styrene. Second place would be Testors own Acryl thinner. Golden A/B Medium is 100% acrylic copolymer in it and on the bottle states that when mixed with acrylics helps decrease clogging and improves paint flow. It did exactly that! It can be found at your local Art Supply stores. A Club member of mine suggested using Denatured Alcohol instead of 70% Isoprophol for the Acryls so I will try it next and get back with you all.
Greg Williams Owner/ Manager Modern Hobbies LLC Indianapolis, IN. IPMS #44084
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 7:16 AM
Greg,

Thanks for that update. Golden's does make great products and many people argue that they produce the best acrylic paints there are...period.

So, has this changed your mind about MM Acryl or not? Big Smile [:D]
Do you still prefer Tamiya?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by plasticmod992 on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 6:19 PM
Mike,

Yeah I must admit, I've had a "slight" change of heart, but my favorite acrylic is still Tamiya and Gunze. By the way..I saw your photo postings of your F-16 and F-1, not bad my friend! Do you plan on getting back more seriously into modeling?
Greg Williams Owner/ Manager Modern Hobbies LLC Indianapolis, IN. IPMS #44084
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:41 PM
Greg,

Thanks for the compliments on those two kits I built.
Coming from you that is an honor. Wink [;)]

Yes, I have began to have an increased interest in modeling again and am working on the Revell 1/48 F-15E and that old Monogram 1/48 A-1H Skyraider I mentioned in another post. My son is almost 17 and he is working on an Italeri 1/72 F-15E also. He bought it when I bought mine so that we could build them at the same time Big Smile [:D]
Hopefully I stick with it this time but that is hard for me to do with hobbies.
I have about 3 or 4 that I seem to rotate around. Big Smile [:D]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by cbreeze on Saturday, January 31, 2004 4:49 PM
I have been following this thread becaue I was having trouble spraying acrylics. I took the test results from plasticmod992 and tried some Golden airbrush medium as a thinner. Success!!!!!!!!!! I might be a beliver in acrylics again. Thanks.
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