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The Omni debarcle continues

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  • From: Alice Springs Australia
Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, May 8, 2004 10:20 AM
Yeah salty, loosened it, tested, tightened it, tested, loosened then tightened, tested, and guess what.

No change.

As soon as I can catch the cat, Black Eye [B)], I'm gonna give the 'lucky rub' treatment a go.
After that, my bag of tricks is totally empty.
Disapprove [V]

On a side note, has anyone ever heard of Lenco airbrushes??Confused [%-)]
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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, May 8, 2004 6:59 PM
Sean,

I contacted Ken at Badger and he told me to have you contact the Australian distributor for Badger airbrushes as that would be your best bet to get your problem solved.
Jonathon Zimbler of Zimbler ltd. is Badger's Australian Hobby Distributor.

He gave me these email addresses for you to try:
zimblerpl@bigpond.com
jonathan.zimbler@zimbler.com.au

I sure hope this helps my friend

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 8, 2004 10:29 PM
Have you tried looking at the tip/nozzle under a magnifying glass?You will be amazed at how messed up or how dirty your airbrushes actually are.it is possible that when you put the needle in you lodged it too far into the tip causing it to spread.Try it it might suprise you.Cause if ya can't get a fine line with an omni I don't care what brush you use...you just arent going to get a fine line unless you just continue to practice.
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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 9, 2004 12:28 AM
Chuck_B,

I have an airbrush artist friend with the same name as you.
You wouldn't happen to be him would you?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 9, 2004 12:56 AM
LOL hi Mike....tis me ;)
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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 9, 2004 2:17 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Chuck_B

LOL hi Mike....tis me ;)


You old snake in the grass. Laugh [(-D]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by tweety1 on Sunday, May 9, 2004 8:52 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Chuck_B

Have you tried looking at the tip/nozzle under a magnifying glass?You will be amazed at how messed up or how dirty your airbrushes actually are.it is possible that when you put the needle in you lodged it too far into the tip causing it to spread.Try it it might suprise you.Cause if ya can't get a fine line with an omni I don't care what brush you use...you just arent going to get a fine line unless you just continue to practice.


Chuck, thanks for the advice, but for some reason your post has rubbed me the wrong wayAngry [:(!]

Have a read of the previous posts in this thread, everything has been tried, and all have failed.
I guess I just got the brush made on a Friday.
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Posted by saltydog on Sunday, May 9, 2004 9:53 AM
QUOTE: Chuck, thanks for the advice, but for some reason your post has rubbed me the wrong wayHave a read of the previous posts in this thread, everything has been tried, and all have failed. I guess I just got the brush made on a Friday.


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i'm glad i wasnt the only one tweety1!! i mean....HELLO, we didnt just fall off the tater truck yesturday my friend!!! i can get the fine line with any of my other brushes except with the omni 5000. i'm in no way downing the airbrush, if it would work properly, i would be using it. i've tried new tips, needles, cleaning rigorously, holding my mouth right, sticking my tongue out while brushing and everything else but no dice. come up with something new bubba.....please. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 9, 2004 11:19 AM
Chris,

Are you still going to send that Omni 5000 my way?

Mike

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Posted by saltydog on Sunday, May 9, 2004 2:58 PM
the way its looking mike, probably so. i still havent had a chance to play with the tight or loose head. i might as well get over there and try it out. i'll email you in a while and tell you if i'm sending it my friend. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by saltydog on Sunday, May 9, 2004 4:07 PM
just got back from the workbench tweety and mike. i started at hand tight with the head assembly and snugged it gently and alternated psi at each tightening phase and when i got about a half a turn from hand tight (which is not recommended in the owners manual BTW), the airbrush began to perform a little better. i finally tightened the sucker all the way down and i can get a decent fine line with the brush. its still not as fine as i can remember before all of this started, but that could be in the paint thinning department and lack of practice with this particular brush. now that i've used the iwatas for a while, there is a big difference in my iwata trigger and the omni's. i just love my iwatas and i just dont know how much use i'll get out of the omni anymore. i can pop out the iwata and achieve any line i want with it in seconds and i had to work a little to get the lines with the omni. anyway tweety, this seemed to help on my omni, so maybe you should crank the head assembly a little tighter a see what happens. the onwer's manual says not to over tighten, so you're gonna have to use your own judgement. later.

mike, i dont think i'll be sending the omni on a cross country tour this time.Laugh [(-D] thanks for accepting the challenge though my friend and tell ken i'm much obliged at his quick and on the money response. it seems that the tightening of the head assembly was the answer. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 9, 2004 9:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog


mike, i dont think i'll be sending the omni on a cross country tour this time.Laugh [(-D]


No problem brother. I have a Badger 100LG, a Sotar 20/20 and a Badger Million-Air compressor coming to try out also, so I will have plenty to do. Big Smile [:D] Wink [;)]

QUOTE: thanks for accepting the challenge though my friend and tell ken i'm much obliged at his quick and on the money response. it seems that the tightening of the head assembly was the answer.


Actually it was my friend Scooter who suggested the head tightening. Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by saltydog on Monday, May 10, 2004 12:21 AM
my deepest apologies scooter. good advice. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by tweety1 on Monday, May 10, 2004 3:42 AM
OK salty, I'll give the 'void warranty' head tightening a go, and see what happens.

Doesn't make sense though, having to tighten it that much to get it too operate correctly.

Wait and see I guess.
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Posted by saltydog on Monday, May 10, 2004 10:42 AM
i know tweety. and thats just my airbrush, yours may be different. if you dont feel comfortable doing it, i'd maybe check into sending the brush back for a replacement brush. if it does the same thing again, i'd look into the iwata hp-cs. it just plain sucks being without an airbrush while your trying to model. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 10, 2004 6:00 PM
Mike, where are you getting the 100LG?
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Posted by MikeV on Monday, May 10, 2004 7:34 PM
1337,

I am getting it from Badger.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by MikeV on Monday, May 10, 2004 7:35 PM
Tweety1,

Did you send an email to that address I posted?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:43 AM
Yeah Mike, waiting on a reply to see if they, or anyone else in Aus will do a warranty inspection.

Fingers crossed.
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Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:34 AM
Well, received my reply.
Quite speedy actually.

I have a snowballs chance basically.
They import Badger, and no one imports T&C, therefore, no parts, or warranty.
So I'm back to square one.
He did put me onto a guy here that repairs ab's, but I'll be a monkeys uncle if I'm gonna fork out more money on this lil' tacker.

Ah well, lesson learned.

Off to the Iwata catalogue I spose.
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Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:38 AM
BTW, has anyone heard of/used a Lenco airbrush??

Also Mike, could you tell me of a Badger brush that is a good match for the Iwata HP-BS
Just basic comparisons is all I need.

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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:15 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

BTW, has anyone heard of/used a Lenco airbrush??


No I haven't. Sorry.

QUOTE: Also Mike, could you tell me of a Badger brush that is a good match for the Iwata HP-BS
Just basic comparisons is all I need.


The only Badger similar to that would be the 100G but it is a micro-tip design so it is capable of finer lines than the Iwata you mentioned. It is in the same class as the Iwata HP-B actually.

I emailed Ken about your answer from Jonathan Zimbler and will let you know what I find out.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:24 AM
Sean,

Email Ken at Badger as he told me he wants to hear from you.

kenbadger@aol.com

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:49 PM
Mike, hows the hp-b compared to the badger 100LG (not the g)
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:40 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 1337

Mike, hows the hp-b compared to the badger 100LG (not the g)


I have never used the HP-B so I can't comment on it, but the Badger 100LG is the same as the 100G, it just has a bigger color cup.

The needle and tip are almost the same on both the HP-B and the 100LG so they should be pretty close in performance.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 4:42 AM
Mike, I sent an email to Ken, advising him of what Zimbler told me, so I'll wait for his reply.
I didn't go into too much detail, as I'm not sure whether he wanted to know what Zimbler had said, or more detail about the Omni.


Wait and see.
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Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:10 PM
Received an email from Ken at Badger.

At long last there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

Hopefully by months end, I may be able to use my Omni as it was designed, and not be forced to turn to the dark side, and buy an Iwata.Wink [;)]
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Posted by maddafinga on Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:13 PM
Is he sending you a new one, or did he figure out what your problem was or what?
Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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Posted by saltydog on Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:19 PM
dark side?!!Angry [:(!] Black Eye [B)]Big Smile [:D] dark or not, iwatas my friend. hope you get your brush back in action soon tweety. happy airbrushing my friend and dont forget to post some pics of your work. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:34 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by maddafinga

Is he sending you a new one, or did he figure out what your problem was or what?


No, at the moment he is finding contacts here for T&C, and I have explained a little more detail as to my problem.
But it's a start, and shows more promise than ever beforeBig Smile [:D]
--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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