massive sputtering problem?

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog ooooooohhh!! WOW!! "Ken" said it!!!! i'm sorry!! later.

You sound a little jealous there bubba.
Well, since Badger buys the competitions airbrushes and compares them when they are doing R&D, I would think his comments to me carry considerable clout from actual useage.
You do tend to learn a lot about airbrushes when you work in the business of manufacturing them for several years and own the company for another 12 years.

The reason is that Iwata uses a long taper on their needles along with small openings in the tip to get a fine line. That in itself causes more problems for getting paints to reliably spray through them.
The same could be said of some Badgers also including the 100 series and the Sotar with fine tips.

Mike

Why not?

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog Why not?

Huh?

Mike

QUOTE: if you have talent, you don't need iwata

why not?

QUOTE: You sound a little jealous there bubba

jealousy?LOL of what? badger stuff?!! no, i just think its funny that you throw some big name at me and thats it, nothing else should be said. while i respect Ken's opinion, that is merely his opinion, or observation. now, my airbrushing is limited to modelling.......thats it, with the exception of about 100 T-shirts or so, but that was with a VL. but i've never had a minutes trouble out of my hp-cs. never has been finicky. always works everytime. i'm just stating my experience with my airbrush. no jealousy here friend.

now, i was just trying to take a harmless shot at ol' 3713, thats the only reason i dropped in this thread. just a little humor is all. later.

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog no, i just think its funny that you throw some big name at me and thats it, nothing else should be said. while i respect Ken's opinion, that is merely his opinion, or observation.

Yes it is Ken's "opinion", but he is light years ahead of all of us in terms of airbrush design, etc. and researches and tests these products daily.
I don't call that just his opinion, I call that expertise from someone who knows what he is talking about and can back it up.
This originally was about Badger airbrushes having the ability to atomize paint easier than Iwata's do, it was not a quality issue.
By the way we are talking about Iwata airbrushes in general, not just the HP-CS you mention. Even you have stated in the past that your HP-C did not atomize modeling paint very well and that is my point exactly.

Mike

no mike, this was originally a thread about Ryan having trouble with his 155, but we all know that it is probably his paint, not the airbrush. with that said, i just dropped in a little joke about it that went something like "typical badger results IMO"............remember? not about how iwata's or badgers atomize paint. next, you posted your technical statement about iwata's being more finicky about spraying paint. i didn't even address you, i was just hackin' on Ryan............no harm ment, just clowning around. i then stated "not mine". and yes, i agree 100% with you, the hp-c that i have is finicky with modelling paint with the .3mm n/n, but we all know that the airbrush is not designed around modelling, but illustration. thats cool, i agree with you on that. i had no intentions of debating with you or your highly qualified friend Ken. i'm certainly no expert on airbrushes...........at all. i disagree with you saying that my airbrushes are "magic", as we both know there is no such thing. they are close, but not quite!!LOL i've never experienced trouble with my hp-cs and modelling paint, is that due to "magic"? no, its just a great airbrush. have i experienced trouble with the hp-c? yes, and, as soon as i determined that the needle taper and the nozzle opening weren't exactly suited for modelling paints (though some on here state success with the hp-c and modelling paints) i bought a conversion kit and since then she's been no problems. again, these statements are from a simple fella in lower Alabama that enjoys glueing up some plastic and painting it with an airbrush, not to be interpreted to refute the expertise of the owner of Badger airbrush co. a qualified airbrush expert that is light years ahead in airbrush design i'm not, but a fella who is simply satisfied with the results of his impeccible iwata airbrushes, that would be more like me. my statements are based soley on my experiences with badger, iwata, and paasche products, in which i simply choose iwata over the rest based on my experiences with each. but not being an expert, i should believe what an expert says, regardless of my actual hands on experiences with said products? how can you effectively disuade someone from what they actually have experieced? later.

If I got a doller for every time somebody asked me a question, I would be a rich, rich man - Shane Kenneally

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog but not being an expert, i should believe what an expert says, regardless of my actual hands on experiences with said products? how can you effectively disuade someone from what they actually have experieced? later.

No Chris, it sounds to me like your actual experience is exactly what I was trying to get across. No hard feelings brother as it was just a miscommunication.

Mike

no problems on my end my friend!! probably could place the blame on the "typed" word again. i'm just an ol' iwata man that likes to stir up some badgers ever now and again.!!LOL later.

You are not "ol" yet Chris.

Mike

yeah, young un

ol' is just a southern thang fellas.......LOL. ya'll don't remember "The Duke Boys", from "The Dukes of Hazard"? Waylon Jennings song started out......."Justa good ol' boys.........."? those 2 weren't old either, but its just a figure of speech!! but, i wouldn't expect a couple a city slickers to understand somethin' like that!! later.

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog ol' is just a southern thang fellas.......LOL. ya'll don't remember "The Duke Boys", from "The Dukes of Hazard"? Waylon Jennings song started out......."Justa good ol' boys.........."? those 2 weren't old either, but its just a figure of speech!! but, i wouldn't expect a couple a city slickers to understand somethin' like that!! later.

sadly enuff I understand.. I guess I qualify under the heading "bubba" ...

BTW: used to love that show... specially Daisy...


of course then there is the general talking... "You remember ol' whats his name" --- "Whatever happened to ol' Gene? he used to come round here a lot!" etc... etc...

Yo hablo "Bubba-ese"

Tom, you hit the nail on the head friend!! and i do hablo bubba-ese!! oh yeah, Daisy was certainly hot!!LOL later.

she was nekkid in one movie, forgot which.. ("naked" for you city folk hahah)

Chris,

I understood what you meant, I was just messing with you bubba.
I like the words that Jeff Foxworthy says, such as "ustacould," he says he doesn't know how to dance anymore, but he ustacould.

Mike

yeah, he can crank out some really funny stuff...............thats just everyday living for some folks i know!!!! LOL.

My favorite "You might be a redneck" joke is this one:
"If you think a nut-cracker is something you do off a divin' board........ya might be a redneck!!" the reason that one is so funny to me is, we actually did "nut-crackers" off the divin' board as kids!!! and thats what we called them too!!

my favorite redneck word is "initiate", i'll use it in a sentence for ya:
my wife ate a hamburger and french fries, "initiate" 3 hot fudge sundae's!!
the red neck word for "and then she ate"!!

Chris, did ya get a lot of flak in the Navy from people from that "other place" (outside the south) for saying "fixing"? I remember especially people from Wisconsin found offense to it...

i.e. "I'm fixin to get ready for bed" "I'm fixin to smack that fella if he don't stop lookin at me" etc...

that and imagine MY surprise the first time I went to the movies in DC and asked the girl at the snack counter what flavor cokes they had... and she gave me a dumb look and said "small, medium and large" I dunno about AL but every canned soft drink is a coke here... until you name it by it's flavor or brand name... "I'm going get me a coke" means you might come back with a strawberry soda, a sprite etc...

I could go on and on and on....

LOL I can agree with that one.. I grew up in Arkansas... typical usage is.. Do you want a coke?... someone says yes... you ask what kind you want...........

now I have lived in PA for 7 years and sometimes I "backslide" into my old ways and thats one of the things that drives my PA Dutch wife crazy......a coke is a coke.. and nothing else is a coke........lol

I dated a girl from Wisconsin in the Navy and she would get soooooo mad at me... "It's a pop!" she would say....A "Coke" is a brand, otherwise its generally known as pop!

I then would offer to show her what a pop was in TX... she fell for it....... once.

---edit---
my ex-wife was from PA as well and I was just thinking of the confusion I caused on our first date.. I asked her what kind of coke she wanted, she looked at me real dumb like .. anyway long story short it was a 15 min convo trying to straighten out what exactly I meant...

0wn3d

oh yeah babe!! i certainly took my licks in the Navy with the "fixin" word!!LOL and yes, coke is a general term for various refreshing beverages here as well! "soda" was the operative word in the Navy........or "pop". later.

QUOTE: 0wn3d

ahh.................could you translate?

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog QUOTE: 0wn3d ahh.................could you translate?

I second that!
I am worried about the next generation. [:0]

Mike

0wn3d = owned = you got served

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 she was nekkid in one movie, forgot which.. ("naked" for you city folk hahah)

She was sterk nekkid in a movie called "Nicole" from 1978...

What? Stop lookin' at me like that, ya'll!

Heck. Everyone needs more than one hobby!

-Jeff

QUOTE: She was sterk nekkid in a movie called "Nicole" from 1978...

"Buck" nekkid, not "Sterk" nekkid. "Sterk" is a yankee term.

QUOTE: Originally posted by MusicCity QUOTE: She was sterk nekkid in a movie called "Nicole" from 1978... "Buck" nekkid, not "Sterk" nekkid. "Sterk" is a yankee term.

yeah... I always heard it buck or but* nekkid... I think they use stark in some places in the south... such as in: There I was in the PO-leess station, 'stripped-sterk-nekkid"


What I like is the accents... I had a teacher in school from West Texas.. he used to tell us we can't always depend on mamma... we were gonna have to learn how to take care of ourselves and do stuff like "urn" our own clothes..

One day he had a flat and had to changes his "tar"

Hmmm... gonna have to go out and see if I can rent Nicole tonight

Since this post has already gone way past off topic... I still call a refrigerator an icebox.

Babva....................you might be a redneck!!

guilty as well...