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"Death in the Courtyard" *finished, more pics, page 15*

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  • From: Oregon
Posted by Lufttiger on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:48 AM
I've never seen that either with the spruce used as rebar. I'm gonna have to try that, i've had too many failures with celluclay pulling up from the board. Thanks so much for the pics, it really helps, and i think your dio is looking great so far.Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:19 AM

Manny, I have to say that you're just outdoing yourself on this one! Breaking new ground and taking chances--and it's paying off big time!

You "da MANNY"!!!

You "da MANNY"!!!

That hay really looks tremendous now! It really looks real! The wagon too is just really outstanding!  #1 Ribbon

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:08 PM

Luftiger, try it; I promise you'll be pleased w/ the results...also, don't forget to add plenty of white glue to your Celluclay mix---this helps prevent too much shrinkage and reduces the chance of curling and lifting as well...

doog, many thanks...I just flat-laquered the hay in place and it seems to be working...time to pour some Celluclay soon!!!

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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:22 PM

POUR some celluclay? After reading one of your posts here a couple of months ago, I went out and snagged some (they actually had it hiding in the back of my LHS), just got around to trying it this week. The instructions were quite vague on actual mixing ratios of water to product, but when I used it is was much more like a paste. In fact, I spread it on my base with a butter knife!

Do you mix it so thin that you're actually able to pour it? If so, what does that do to the drying time? As it was, my oatmeal mixture took at least 24 hours to fully cure. 

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Posted by panzerguy on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:11 PM

 

  Manny great job on the wagonThumbs Up [tup]. Once I get mine built I just might have to send it out for paintWink [;)]

   Hans were did you get a color pic from a B/W mvie?  Friends with Ted Turner maybe?

  Dupes always mix the celluclay to the consistency of thick oatmeal. If you mix it to thin you'll just have a mess on your hands.

 

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by Boba Fett on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:00 PM

First of all, GREAT PROJECT! I absolutely love it! I did have a question though, how do you make hay? I am trying to do a 1/72 dio for the TV series "Band of Brothers". British assisted attack. I want to do the part where the Tiger is buried in hay. Anyway, great job once again!Bow [bow]

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:19 PM
 panzerguy wrote:

Hans were did you get a color pic from a B/W mvie?  Friends with Ted Turner maybe?

 

I only share modeling tips here, Guy....Wink [;)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:37 AM
 dupes wrote:

POUR some celluclay? After reading one of your posts here a couple of months ago, I went out and snagged some (they actually had it hiding in the back of my LHS), just got around to trying it this week. The instructions were quite vague on actual mixing ratios of water to product, but when I used it is was much more like a paste. In fact, I spread it on my base with a butter knife!

Do you mix it so thin that you're actually able to pour it? If so, what does that do to the drying time? As it was, my oatmeal mixture took at least 24 hours to fully cure. 

Sorry..."pour" was just a figure of speech...spoon it on is more accurate...I mix mine very thick, like mashed potatoes or very thick oatmeal...also, I add copious ammounts of white glue to help prevent curling/lifting...I try to squuze most of the excess water out of the mix before laying it as well to reduce drying time and shrinking...after it sets up overnight I begin to add groundwork so it will settle into the 'clay... 
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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:07 AM
Adding to what Manny said, along with the glue I add some brown tempera paint as well to get rid of the grey color of the Celluclay... I also use paper towels, pushing them down onto the groundwork to wick up more water after I get it all in place.  Another thing I do, right after mixing it, is put into a ziplock bag and squeeze any excess water out that I can.

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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:39 AM
Ahhhh, hadn't thought about trying to squeeze out the excess water - I can certainly see how that would cut down on the drying time. Good call. Is there any sort of "recommended" ratio of glue-to-clay?
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Posted by RickLawler on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:55 AM

Hay!  Manny (pun intended).

It might look nice if you could place an old, wooden pitchfork in the hay as well...probably pretty easy to scratch one if you don't want to order one. 

Just a thought, your getting there quickly now.

 

Rick

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:01 AM
Manny, (tried to quote, wouldnt let me)

 

Granted, I only used the stuff once, but what I did, was I didnt think the acrylic paint I was using to color the celuclay so the excess water went right to thinning the paint, worked wonders. (I also did stuff like adding gravel, and sticks and such to the celuclay mix so when it spread it had texture. 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:36 AM

 dupes wrote:
Is there any sort of "recommended" ratio of glue-to-clay?

Probably, but I don't care... I just squeeze out a big ol' glop, maybe a couple a' good-sized tablespoons or so to a softball-sized glob of Celluclay... 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 1:46 PM
 RickLawler wrote:

Hay!  Manny (pun intended).

It might look nice if you could place an old, wooden pitchfork in the hay as well...probably pretty easy to scratch one if you don't want to order one. 

Just a thought, your getting there quickly now.

 

Rick

Ya' know---I been thinking the same thing...but I don't want to fool w/ trying to track down a Historex item or something that will hold me up in finishing...was thinking maybe I could scratch one with a cocktail stick and maybe some sprue or wire...any suggestions???
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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:00 PM
Stretched sprue would be my choice of material...

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Posted by panzerguy on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:47 PM

 

  Manny heres a pic of a pitch fork and scythe I scratched using stretched sprue and thin plastic strip for the blade. The handles are twigs I pick up in the back yard. Hope it can be of some help.

  

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by namrednef on Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:28 AM
 Hans von Hammer wrote:
 panzerguy wrote:

Hans were did you get a color pic from a B/W mvie?  Friends with Ted Turner maybe?

 

I only share modeling tips here, Guy....Wink [;)]

That could be a promo photo....or, I believe B/W prints of a film can be printed from a color negative.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:13 AM
 panzerguy wrote:

 

  Manny heres a pic of a pitch fork and scythe I scratched using stretched sprue and thin plastic strip for the blade. The handles are twigs I pick up in the back yard. Hope it can be of some help.

  

Wow, really nice scratching there!!! Did you start with scraps of plastic that were close to the tongs and work them into shape using liquid glue?  I think I may have some parts from ship kits that could be "convinced" they should be a pitch-fork...
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2008 1:13 PM
 namrednef wrote:
 Hans von Hammer wrote:
 panzerguy wrote:

Hans were did you get a color pic from a B/W mvie?  Friends with Ted Turner maybe?

 

I only share modeling tips here, Guy....Wink [;)]

That could be a promo photo....or, I believe B/W prints of a film can be printed from a color negative.

I thought Jane Russell was the girl in the hay???
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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, November 14, 2008 1:31 PM
I thought it was Terry Garth from Young Frankenstein? Confused [%-)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2008 2:31 PM
 Boba Fett wrote:

First of all, GREAT PROJECT! I absolutely love it! I did have a question though, how do you make hay? I am trying to do a 1/72 dio for the TV series "Band of Brothers". British assisted attack. I want to do the part where the Tiger is buried in hay. Anyway, great job once again!Bow [bow]

  "First of all, GREAT PROJECT! I absolutely love it! I did have a question though, how do you make hay?"

I just got my girlfriend's hairbrushes, pulled out all of the loose hair, then cut it to uniform lengths...

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, November 14, 2008 2:41 PM
 Manstein s revenge wrote:
  "First of all, GREAT PROJECT! I absolutely love it! I did have a question though, how do you make hay?"

I just got my girlfriend's hairbrushes, pulled out all of the loose hair, then cut it to uniform lengths...

Wait a second? I missed something..... I thought you said it was doog's hair? Confused [%-)] Now it's your Girlfiend's? Hmmmmmmmmmm wait a second .... Naaaah couldn't be.Shock [:O]

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Posted by subfixer on Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:46 AM
The girl in the hay is Teri Garr and the movie is "Young Frankenstein". Just to clear that little matter up. (She started out as the "Chiquita Banana" girl from the old commercial, remember that?)

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:59 PM

I thought Jane Russell was the girl in the hay???

No way you can mistake Jane Russell and Teri Garr... But I guess historically, Jane Russel would be better for the era of the dio...

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Posted by sfcmac on Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:10 PM
 Hans von Hammer wrote:

I thought Jane Russell was the girl in the hay???

No way you can mistake Jane Russell and Teri Garr... But I guess historically, Jane Russel would be better for the era of the dio...

Is it bad I am getting images of cross your heart bra and full figured gals.... Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:42 PM

Celluclay laid down; basic elements set into place; curing of base...

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:50 PM
Wow... looks like that "rebar" turned out great! And you really got the body to look like it's part of the base, not just some poor figure that wasn't attached right and fell over. For the barrel that got hit and is bleeding water, were you going to darken some of the dirt for a pool of water effect or pour resin and try and wick up "splashes" or...?

But it looks great!! Can't wait for the rest of the figures and Doog's hair wagon. :p

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:01 PM

Celluclay laid down; basic elements set into place; curing of base...

Uh-oh... The building and the base are not at angles to the base, Manny... Wink [;)]

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:24 PM

Manny - Looks great except....is the building listing to the right. It does not look like the building is square to the ground??? Is it the photo or is that what you wanted???

 

Rounds Complete!! 

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:35 PM
Thanks for looking guys...yeah, I broke those rules on purpose, Hammer...but it is all planned---the wagon hitching bar will create that cut across the perpindicular to balance things out...RedLeg, I believe the building list is an optical illusion at this point...the pic was a real quickie in the garage and the depth of field is weird in the low-lighting (pump looks like it is tilting left as well)...I believe things are all squared and level...once the ground sets up a bit more I'm gonna add the rest of the componenets and shoot some quality "in action" close-ups...
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