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1/48 Hasegawa F-22A Raptor WIP

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:47 PM

Here's a pic showing exactly where I cut the intakes:

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:53 PM
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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, July 4, 2014 11:48 AM

Ok, here's the corrected seat.  I think the OD cushion looks better but it wasn't correct so oh well.  I also removed the khaki areas at the top of the seat.  They weren't there on the F-22 seats, either.  I've also added a few more details:

In the pic above you can see the pull handle for the ejection seat on the towel next to the seat.  Aires includes a PE part for this but I'm going to use the kit part since I think it looks better.

Here it is in the tub.  I've added some blending and fading to the seat cushion to give it a little more visual interest:

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, July 4, 2014 11:55 AM
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Posted by T3chDad® on Thursday, July 10, 2014 12:54 PM

This build is looking great so far!  I look forward to more updates.


  On the bench: Between Builds...

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Thursday, July 10, 2014 1:53 PM

Thanks, T3ch!  

More update are on the way.  I just haven't uploaded the photos yet.  I have installed the intakes, landing gear bays and I am about to install the exhaust piece.  I have to add some resin stuff around the cockpit and once that's done and the cockpit tub is installed I can get the two fuselage halves together and begin to fun part...the painting and weathering!  Its just all this tedious internal stuff that I don't really enjoy doing is bogging me down.

Also, I've slowed down a bit because, frankly, I'm just a little burned out building right now.  I just finished 3 pretty intense builds (the F-15E, IAF F-16C and the C-17) and I need a little break.  But...I haven't stopped!  I've just slowed down a little.

And...I think I still need to touch up that ejection seat a little bit.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, July 11, 2014 12:35 PM

Everything looks great so far, Fly.  

I'm curious to see how you handle that "Raptor Sheen" paint that seems to be bugging folks.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, July 11, 2014 12:52 PM

Thanks Dre!

I'm going to use the colors that are recommended by Hasegawa in the instruction sheet.  They say to mix Mr. Color Metal colors with greys to get that "sort of" metallic Raptor Sheen look.  I've seen one painted with the recommended colors and I though it looked pretty convincing.

There seems to be quite a bit of variation in the sheen from picture to picture.  I'm going to go for a more subdued sheen.  I think this will be more consistent with the type of weathering I like to do.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, July 11, 2014 11:44 PM
Nice pit work Fly. Honestly I was digging the OD seat... It drew your eye right into your beautifully painted and weathered cockpit. Oh well, sacrifices eh? I look forward to the rest of the build.

.... And your Tomcat has me speechless. Just a work of art. Can you IM me some more pics of that turkey?... Or how about a thread on it?

Joe

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Posted by DWood538 on Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:54 PM

Great work on the cockpit Fly, I'm pretty interested in that blending technique on the seat. It does a great job of breaking up all that black, and gives it the look as if it has been sat on and pressed down in the center. It also gives the edges a lighter, worn color that black canvas has where the pilots legs would be moving and rubbing. Keep it up! Very interested in the F-22.

Joe, just build yourself an F-14 Wink and do a WIP!

-Derek

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Sunday, July 13, 2014 5:04 PM

lawdog114
Nice pit work Fly. Honestly I was digging the OD seat... It drew your eye right into your beautifully painted and weathered cockpit. Oh well, sacrifices eh? I look forward to the rest of the build. 

.... And your Tomcat has me speechless. Just a work of art. Can you IM me some more pics of that turkey?... Or how about a thread on it? 

Joe

Thanks, Joe!  

I thought the OD seat turned out pretty good but in the quest for accuracy it just didn't sit right with me.  The new black one is OK but I still need to touch up the blending just a little bit.  To the naked eye it looks fine but the flash really brings out some little spots that I missed.

As for the F-14...sorry, but I didn't take any WIP pics of that one.  And I only have a few nicer pics of the finished model.  I did post a thread about it when I finished it here in the FSM Aircraft forums...F-14A

I have a couple HB Tomcats in the stash and I will definitely do some WIPs with those.  I have some weathering techniques that I think will look really good with those!

DWood538

Great work on the cockpit Fly, I'm pretty interested in that blending technique on the seat. It does a great job of breaking up all that black, and gives it the look as if it has been sat on and pressed down in the center. It also gives the edges a lighter, worn color that black canvas has where the pilots legs would be moving and rubbing. Keep it up! Very interested in the F-22.

Thanks, DWood!  I actually learned this technique when I watched some YouTube tutorials of people painting those Citadel Warhammer 40k gaming figures.  I thought it would work on the seats so I tried it and I think it looks good.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Sunday, July 13, 2014 5:31 PM

Ok, here's another update.  I've been assembling the wheel wells and getting ready to install them into the lower fuselage part.  The wheel wells assemble as one large part that contains both wells.  

I should mention that I bought the Aires resin wheel well set.  But after dry fitting the wells to the lower fuselage part...and after dry fitting the landing gear parts to the wells...I've decided just to use the kit parts.  You see, the resin parts left gaps between themselves and the fuselage part and the landing gear seems like it is a tad bit flimsy and complicated.  I think the gear would attach better to the styrene plastic with welding cement than it would to the resin with CA glue.  Plus, the kit's wheel wells are fairly detailed.  I am going to use the resin nose gear well, though.  Its better than the kit part by far.

I've also attached the intakes to the lower fuselage.  These ended up fitting very well:

BUT...   In my excitement to install the intakes I forgot to install the main wheel well part first!  The wheel well part sits underneath the intakes!  So, I had to cut the wheel well part into 2 separate wheel wells.  It worked out just fine.

I'm not going to be able to use that center support piece, though.  But I don't think it will matter.  This thing has so many supports in it already.

I've also decided to assemble the landing gear now.  Normally I'd save it for the end and paint it separately, but this gear seems like it will be to flimsy and complicated to try to get it right after its all been painted.  There isn't really one solid connection point.  There are about 4 small connection points and I just think it will be more secure doing it this way in the long run:

The nose gear well requires a little bit of surgery to get it to fit:

The kit's nose gear part fits very securely into the resin well:

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Posted by bvallot on Sunday, July 13, 2014 8:25 PM

This is coming together nicely, huh.  I can't wait to start moving on to jets and more modern things.  =]  This is a real treat to see put together.  Don't stop now.

By the way...any thoughts on what WW2 plane you're thinking about doing???  =]

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Monday, July 14, 2014 12:33 AM

bvallot

This is coming together nicely, huh.  I can't wait to start moving on to jets and more modern things.  =]  This is a real treat to see put together.  Don't stop now.

By the way...any thoughts on what WW2 plane you're thinking about doing???  =]

Thanks bvallot!  I should be moving along quickly here in the sort of near future.  I've just been decompressing for a little while.  This was a really lazy weekend for me.

I'm not sure which WWII plane I will to.  I have about 6 or 7 in the stash.  I'm thinking I may start with a Corsair or an F4F Wildcat...both 1/48 Tamiya kits.  I want to try out lawdog's radial engine technique and see what I can make of it.  In fact, I've been tempted to just bust out one of the engines to see if I can do it!  It will be my first radial engine so it might suck but we'll see.

After I finish the F-22 and an X-Wing (that I'm building for the SciFi GB) I have a 1/200 Hasegawa TWA 767-200 that I need to finish.  Then I may try one of the WWII birds.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, July 14, 2014 6:14 AM

Extra work is lying off, the cockpit and seat look great

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Posted by Rob S. on Monday, July 14, 2014 7:06 AM

For a very dark cockpit, your diligent attention to detail makes it pop very nicely!!

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Posted by cml on Monday, July 14, 2014 7:20 AM

I've just been catching up on this thread.

Some great advice with the intakes. A really clever idea and good tip about the correct location to slice'n'dice

Also, your Tomcat looks awesome, i have that in the stash but still need to find time (and the diligence) to get around to it.

Chris

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Monday, July 14, 2014 1:24 PM

Tojo72

Extra work is lying off, the cockpit and seat look great

Thanks, Tojo!  I've installed the cockpit and some details around the frame.  I'l get some pics up soon.

Rob Sherman

For a very dark cockpit, your diligent attention to detail makes it pop very nicely!!

Thank you, Rob!  Being all black is making it tough.  I'm debating whether or not to apply the decals for the MFD screens.  It wouldn't be "accurate" since the plane would need to be powered up for the displays to be lit up. But it would bring some color and detail to a fairly monochromatic and boring cockpit.

cml

I've just been catching up on this thread.

Some great advice with the intakes. A really clever idea and good tip about the correct location to slice'n'dice

Also, your Tomcat looks awesome, i have that in the stash but still need to find time (and the diligence) to get around to it.

cml, thaks alot!  When I was building the intakes I just though there had to be an easier way to do them.  Trying to paint those without cutting them up would have been a PITA.  I have built a few Hasegawa Superhornets and the intakes are separated right about where the white part starts.  So I though why not do the same thing on the F-22.

The F-14 was a really fun build.  It wasn't too bad but there are a couple of tricky areas.  I used an Aires cockpit because the kit's cockpit is incredibly bland.  Plus, the VF-84 paint scheme just looks killer on the Tomcats!

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Posted by MAgather on Thursday, July 17, 2014 12:22 PM

Fly-n-hi

I'm going to use the colors that are recommended by Hasegawa in the instruction sheet.  They say to mix Mr. Color Metal colors with greys to get that "sort of" metallic Raptor Sheen look.  I've seen one painted with the recommended colors and I though it looked pretty convincing.

There seems to be quite a bit of variation in the sheen from picture to picture.  I'm going to go for a more subdued sheen.  I think this will be more consistent with the type of weathering I like to do.

Dre/ FNH

Somebody somewhere (I'll find it and post here) had a neat recommendation for how to achieve that sheen, and it used the MM Metallic colors oversprayed over the enamel FS colors.  I have one of the Academy F-22's in the stash, and a couple years back built the Testors YF-22 in 1/72. In prep for the big bird, I tested the methods on the YF.It came out fairly nice.  The only challenge is the lacquer is hot and wants to eat up the enamel.

I'll post a pic of that as well.  I had a little issue, but all in all, a great idea. 

As always, great work. I love the cockpit. Even monochromatic it is fantastic.  I too will vouch for the saw above. I got mine from UMM.  

Best, Marty

Good Modeling,
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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, July 18, 2014 2:41 PM

MAgather

Fly-n-hi

I'm going to use the colors that are recommended by Hasegawa in the instruction sheet.  They say to mix Mr. Color Metal colors with greys to get that "sort of" metallic Raptor Sheen look.  I've seen one painted with the recommended colors and I though it looked pretty convincing.

There seems to be quite a bit of variation in the sheen from picture to picture.  I'm going to go for a more subdued sheen.  I think this will be more consistent with the type of weathering I like to do.

Dre/ FNH

Somebody somewhere (I'll find it and post here) had a neat recommendation for how to achieve that sheen, and it used the MM Metallic colors oversprayed over the enamel FS colors.  I have one of the Academy F-22's in the stash, and a couple years back built the Testors YF-22 in 1/72. In prep for the big bird, I tested the methods on the YF.It came out fairly nice.  The only challenge is the lacquer is hot and wants to eat up the enamel.

I'll post a pic of that as well.  I had a little issue, but all in all, a great idea. 

As always, great work. I love the cockpit. Even monochromatic it is fantastic.  I too will vouch for the saw above. I got mine from UMM.  

Best, Marty

Marty, the sheen that I will be applying will be somewhat subdued.  There are a few types of sheens when you look at the reference pics on the internet.  Some are very metallic and some are very "faded."  I will be going for the more faded look.  If you've followed some of my other builds this definitely won't surprise you.

I will be adding a few layers of weathering and any bright sheen would be lost probably anyway.  Plus, I like the look of the dirtier used aircraft.  The Mr. Color mixes give a look that I think is just about right for me.

But please do post that link you were talking about.  There are a few people following this thread and they might find the additional painting advise useful.  And I'd be curious to see it as well!

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, July 18, 2014 2:48 PM

Here's a small update.  Not a whole lot of progress.  I dry fitted the upper and lower fuselage halves and discovered that the resin cockpit and the resin wheel well interfered with each other and as a result the parts would not mate together.  (Also, you can see my other on going build...my X-Wing):

Not a problem!  I just used my new Dremmel 3000 and ground the parts down a little:

And now it all fits!

I loosely attached the vertical and horizontal stabs in place to see how it looks.  I like it!

They say if it looks fast on the ground its probably fast in the air!

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:28 PM

Well guys, I hate to say it but the updates have been pretty dull so far.  Especially since I'm not posing her with any weapons.  This is one of those builds that really won't come alive until I start the painting process...which should be happening fairly soon!

I've assembled the trust vectoring nozzles:

They fit into their respective spaces very well:

I really like the look of the rectangular exhaust exits.  

This would be great if it weren't for the fact that I'm going to put some PE parts on the sides of the exhaust areas to hide the seams.  I will have to file down the sides of the nozzles just a little bit to get them to fit.  I'll take a pic of what I'm talking about soon.

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Posted by bvallot on Friday, July 25, 2014 8:08 AM

Great build coming together Fly-n.  =]  I do like your play-by-plays.  Every time I see one of your jet WIPs it makes me wish I'd just pick one up and start myself.  =]

The lines this jet makes are just beautiful aren't they?!

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, July 25, 2014 6:11 PM

bvallot

Great build coming together Fly-n.  =]  I do like your play-by-plays.  Every time I see one of your jet WIPs it makes me wish I'd just pick one up and start myself.  =]

The lines this jet makes are just beautiful aren't they?!

Thanks bvallot!  I do try to post step by step details but sometimes I just skip certain things.  I don't think anybody is interested in how I glued the flap halves together or how I sanded down the seams between the fuselage parts.  Know what I mean?

I'm using the Wolfpack nozzle set.  But I'm just using the PE parts.  The resin nozzles look great but they are in the open position and I'm posing mine closed.  Here's the set:

And here are the PE parts:

And here are the PE parts attached to the exhaust area:

These PE parts look really good I think!  And they eliminate the need to deal with those seams.

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:11 PM

Well guys I'm back...sort of.

Life is getting in the way of my model building!  Back at the beginning of August I had a vacation where I was gone for a week.  And we have been going through some big changes at work which has taken up a considerable amount of time.  I've also been teaching myself the art of options trading and I have spent most of my free time learning as much as I can about that.  I tend to go all in and put everything else to the side when I decide to learn something new.

Also, I used to do all of my painting and stuff like that when my wife was at work since it stunk up the house.  But now she works from home and she's home ALL THE TIMEBang Head.  So it has really cut into my ability to finish my models!  Oh well.  Now she has job she loves and thats a good thing.

Anyway,

I've gotten a little work done on the F-22.  I've sanded and filled some notches on the nose where the sprues didn't break away cleanly.  I think this is a problem on all of these kits because I've seen a few other Hasegawa F-22 WIPs that had the same issue.  I used Tamiya White Putty for the first time to fill the notches.  This stuff works great!

I've also filled any remaining seams and primed with Tamiya Fine Surface Primer.  I masked the cockpit area with Silly Putty:

This area on the bottom required the most attention.  The fit of the intake parts is pretty good but it did need some filler to make it flush with the fuselage: 

Care is needed here to make sure that you don't sand off any of the raised surface details in front of the weapons bays:

My wife is a wedding photographer and she doesn't have many shoots here in AZ during the summer.  But she does have several starting here in the Fall so she should be out of the house more and I should be able to get alot more modeling done!

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Posted by bvallot on Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:54 PM

Glad to see you back at it Fly-in!  =]  Can't wait to see you get some paint on this one. =]

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:55 PM

Great thread ,just went back and caught up with it. I got this in the stash but have been hesitant to start it,this is just the motivation I needed thanks for taking the time to post up such a well detailed wip!

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:35 AM

bvallot

Glad to see you back at it Fly-in!  =]  Can't wait to see you get some paint on this one. =]

Thanks, bvallot!  Technically, there is paint on it now!Big Smile  I'm looking forward to painting this.  I've seen some pics of some F-22s with pretty beat up paint jobs.  I might try to recreate that.  Not totally sure yet.

TREYZX10R

Great thread ,just went back and caught up with it. I got this in the stash but have been hesitant to start it,this is just the motivation I needed thanks for taking the time to post up such a well detailed wip!

Thanks, TREYZX10R!  Once my wife starts getting busy and getting out of the house I think the painting part will go by pretty quickly.  So far this has been an easy kit but had I built the weapons bays open it would have been a bit tougher.

I should be able to get the first layer or two of paint on tomorrow.

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Posted by P mitch on Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:11 AM

Fly-n-hi

Only just seen this thread and like a few others I have this in the stash so glad to see someone building one. I must say the panel lines that you mentioned being out don't bother me at all, it looks like a F-22 so thats fine by me

Phil

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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