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Rommel vs Monty (North African GB 1941-43) Jan. 1 - Aug. 31 2014

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, May 24, 2014 8:24 PM

Tojo- she does look good indeed!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Monday, May 26, 2014 5:46 PM

Hey all-been lurking for quite a while-admiring the great work being produced.

I have deviated from my intended build-Dragon Sherman Mk. II-I picked up a Tamiya SAS Jeep-thought something quick & easy might help me get back into the groove-new job, new city/state, lack of my 'man cave'....anyway, I was able to get a lot done over the last few days-I should have posted pics sooner, but just didn't-sorry.

Anyway, here is the SAS Jeep to date.  I primed the chassis with black primer, along with other components.  I plan on priming the upper surfaces with grey before putting down the base coat....which leads me to a question for the resident experts-since the Jeep would have been Lend/Lease, should the base coat be OD and then the Jeeps would have been painted yellow in the field?  Based on the pics I've found, that looks to be the case, but I want to get some second opinions. 

This is an old kit-probably not as nice as the new Dragon kit, but it is an easy build with room for some scratch building & extra detailing.

I added some racks for the jerry cans and will need to build a mount for one of the machine guns.

Giving consideration to building a Dragon Sherman M4 for this GB also-think I'll stay away from the Mk II for now-a little too much PE to make it enjoyable.

Bob

 

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Posted by armor86 on Monday, May 26, 2014 7:52 PM

Nice work Tojo - Update on Panzer IV 'D' Dragon 6779 - lower hull complete and testing - dry fitting lower & upper hull and fenders before installing interior details. The kit can have just about every hatch & door open. Photos

Verlinden Productions Interior Detail Set - Washed resin parts and now ready to begin fitting crew compartment, engine, transmission, ctc. Armor86

 


Dan

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, May 26, 2014 10:20 PM

Dan - lookin great, did you add a clear colour to those periscope glass?

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Bob - interesting primer approach to the LRDG jeep, preshading I take it?

Good question about the Lend Lease vehicles.  I have seen documented evidence for Grant tanks ordered in late 1941, specified to be factory painted with US Coronado Tan -  but can't say with certainty if any jeeps were also ordered with a desert colour.  

Referring to period photos, I'd say look for the white serial number.  My conclusion would be if this marking can't be found, or is present with a dark background (like it was masked), then in all likelihood was redone with British paint after being delivered in olive.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by armor86 on Monday, May 26, 2014 11:21 PM

Jack, Used a thinned Tamiya Color Clear Green (X-25). Armor86

 


Dan

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Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:53 AM

Jack-Not so much pre-shading as overspray-wanted to make sure that the chassis was black so anything not OD wouldn't stand out.  I pretty much assembled everything this time prior to painting-usually I would have painted the chassis components first then assembled.  I'll do a light mask before priming the body with grey.

All of the pics I have seen look like the yellow paint was added with a brush-I'll try to find time to post one later this pm.

Bob

 

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:11 AM

Good to see you back Bob.

I ran into a bit of a problem. I was working on the turret when i noticed a piece of the rear deck that was warped and broken. Not sure if I can fix it. I might have to order a replacement part.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:12 AM

Bob & Dan: Nice looking work guys!

Eric: You can't 'cheat' and cover it with storage- some may frown on it but I've found slapping a stored tarp or camo net over the problem is a quick fix.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:26 AM

Thanks Cliff, that is a good idea if all else fails. It's pretty messed up.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:13 PM

Finally got a bit done and able to do an up date. After the decals, I did some dry brushing followed by AK's filter followed by their weathering wash, both for DAK vehicles.

I used this filter on the 88 I did early this year, and now as then, I am still not sure I see the purpose of filters. Aside from making the two colours harder to distinguish, I can't see what else it has done. Or maybe its just me.

Well, here's where I am at.

 

That's all for now. 

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:34 PM

Looking great, Bish! I was wondering about the filter method, and the effect it would have, as the AK shade I picked up by RAL number is certainly not the colour I want the thing to be, and a "filter" is supposed to change it -- it looks like the effect is particularly subtle. Meh -- I'll mix the shade, as I always meant to!

M/TB379

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:31 PM

Bish - Iooking good, I like it.

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Here's Mig Jemenze explanation for filter use:

http://www.missing-lynx.com/rare_world/rw02.htm

Thunderbolt does make a good point about why not just mix a proper base colour at the start instead adding a filter afterwards. 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by pyrman64 on Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:48 AM

Bish: the Pz3 looks great!

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:04 AM

Thanks guys.

Mike, yes, the effect is subtle. The two colours were quite close anyway. I had only use these filters on a single colour scheme before now. I have done dot filtering and things like that on European camo and of course that gives very different results.

I do actually like the look, its just not what I was expecting from what I have read, the way some go on, I was expecting the tank to drive off the bench all by itself.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:00 AM

Looks good Bish! I've used filters to tone down the difference between multiple camo colours like on NATO vehicles. I'm assuming you did this here to blend in the decals and make them appear sun faded- looks good!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:26 AM

Gamera

Looks good Bish! I've used filters to tone down the difference between multiple camo colours like on NATO vehicles. I'm assuming you did this here to blend in the decals and make them appear sun faded- looks good!

Yes, yes of course, that was the reason I used them, well spotted. Whistling

To be honest, I had not thought about that part of it and the effect it would have. But now you mention it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:19 PM
All ready for final filtering,chipping,weathering,and detail painting.Looks a little monochromatic at this point,but has been a nice Tamiya build.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:48 PM

It looks ready to head into battle with the Tommies at Alam Halfa Ridge now Tojo! What color did you use? Once you get a wash on there to make the rivets pop it will stop looking so monotone and really come alive... and tehn teh sand and dust... and dust and sand...

 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:57 PM

Thanks Stik,it's Modelmaster Italian Sand,enamel

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, May 30, 2014 10:01 AM

Hey Tojo, she looks fantastic! Just a little wash and the rest of the work you noted and she's good to go!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:49 PM

That looks good Anthony. Are those the kit's decals? Mine shattered on me.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, May 31, 2014 1:53 PM

Nice work there Tojo. Italian armour is not my thing, but this is a nice looking AFV.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by armor86 on Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:50 PM

Nice finish Tojo - photo update on Panzer IV 'D' - Primer the interior, dry fit lower turret with crew compartment - MedelMaker2 paint - Elfenbien interior color. Photos Armor86

 


Dan

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Posted by castelnuovo on Thursday, June 5, 2014 12:27 AM

This Crusader looks great!!! Yes

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, June 5, 2014 3:23 PM
Got my Semovente done yesterday.Typical Tamiya build,very enjoyable.Painted with Modelmaster Enamels and weathered with Mig and AK products.Thanks to Tigerman for another great campaign

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  • From: Cincinnati Ohio
Posted by DantheMan85 on Sunday, June 8, 2014 2:37 PM

Nice work everyone, here's my update.  I'd say I'm about 50 to 60% done with my Tiger 1.

Not sure If I'm going to try and refit the left air cleaner,  from it being a little crooked.  Anything that need sanding I use 400 first, followed up with 800, then 1200 for a smooth finish.  If you sand with that 1200 long enough, it will remove all the sanding marks left behind from the 400 and 800.

On my Work Bench: Tamiya Ford GT 1/24

Up Coming: ?

           

 

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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, June 8, 2014 2:55 PM

Thank you Eric and Bish,yes they were kit decals,I left off one gas can so that the Ariete marking showed.

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Monday, June 9, 2014 2:06 AM

Tojo72 - excellent job on Tamiya's Semovente.  Yes
I've seen a few others say they turn to this one to get back in the modelling groove, so glad you enjoyed it.


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Dan - sound build you got happening there.

Incidentally,  someone has finally come out with a resin conversion kit for the Tunisian Tiger, though the price is akin to a Dragon kit:
http://www.newtmd.com/DAK-Tiger-I-Conversion


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Finally an update from me ... well I wouldn't make good as a rivet counter.  Replacing some rivets, as those on the turret are barely visisble on Italeri's L6/40 .  Started on the hull, but I see I will need to order another pack. 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, June 9, 2014 6:37 AM

Thanks Jack,Have fun with the rivets,I would have no patience or hands for that

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  • From: Cincinnati Ohio
Posted by DantheMan85 on Monday, June 9, 2014 8:24 AM

Thanks Jgeratic, the Tamiya kit is a pretty easy build up. 

I have the Dragon Tiger kit 6600,  been thinking about if I want to make it into a Tunisian Tiger what would I have to do, kit bash or conversion kit.  You found what I was looking for. Wink

On my Work Bench: Tamiya Ford GT 1/24

Up Coming: ?

           

 

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