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Posted by taxtp on Monday, September 19, 2016 2:07 AM

Joe - THis is the first time I've dropped in for a while. Your F4F is amazing, I love the detail work and the realism.

MC - Love your diorama, but your imagination is what  I find most impressive. Amazing.

Rigidrider - I'd never had thought of doing a nambulance. THat's a really nice job, as is the subtle weathering. Nice to see it completed

My SBD - no progress yet :(

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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, September 20, 2016 5:50 PM

taxtp

Joe - THis is the first time I've dropped in for a while. Your F4F is amazing, I love the detail work and the realism.

MC - Love your diorama, but your imagination is what  I find most impressive. Amazing.

Rigidrider - I'd never had thought of doing a nambulance. THat's a really nice job, as is the subtle weathering. Nice to see it completed

My SBD - no progress yet :(

Cheers

Tony

 

 

Many thanks Tony.  Appreciate it.

 

 

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, September 26, 2016 12:36 AM

Been a long time since I did any plastic, most of this year has been spent building R/C models.  But I'm getting a start on the 1/32 Special Hobby P-36A, spent some time gluing a few cockpit pieces together.  When I got to the instrument panel I decided the best way to go was with a decal, which the kit does not provide.  I have a bunch of stock drawings of instruments I have worked up for other projects in the past in Corel Draw so I spent the afternoon drawing a few I needed for the P-36 and then sizing and moving stuff until I got this far.   There is probably a nice Eduard set for it but I'm just in the mood to go with what I got, since I just spent too much on a resin P-80 cockpit set yesterday.

Here's a jpeg of the decal artwork.  In 1/32 a lot should show up.  I hope!

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, September 26, 2016 11:36 AM

I really wish I would get off my butt and do something like that John.  Not thrilled with many of the ip decals I have seen.

 

Now for an update for myself.

Not one that will be pleasing I am afraid.  

 

This past weekend was an interesting one.  I was put into contact with a magazine that is interested in my work.  This is not the same one as before.  Not going into the name to not disrespect FSM.  After two days of chatting they have requested and I will agree to not posting more updates on the Wildcat as it is now committed to them for publication.    I humbly ask you to bear with me as this looks to be more than what the other mag was looking for in my participation.  This appears to be a very exciting opportunity.  Following publication I will update my build in this thread and the other places I have posted.  

 

For me updates on any current project will only include those that are not committed.  I agreed to it as that is a small price to pay.

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, September 26, 2016 1:50 PM

Congratulations, Joe.  That's a fine comment on your work.

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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:37 PM

Well Joe, I guess that is great news, so we now just have to wait for the book and the movie insteadBig Smile

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Posted by taxtp on Sunday, October 2, 2016 11:53 PM

Nice one Joe, I'm very pleased for you. I've just made a start on my SBD, cleaning up some ejection pin marks and sprue attachment points for now.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, October 5, 2016 9:51 AM
Thank you all for being so understanding. Joe

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, October 5, 2016 12:31 PM

Lots of preliminary fitting on this one.  Perhaps Special Hobby was planning on thinner fuselage shells when they designed the four internal bulkheads, all of them needed work in order for the fuselage sides to come together. 

 

The four main parts just taped together, cowl and fuselage aft part are separate.  Nice fit although one aft fuselage side is just slightly longer than the other.  Left the mismatch at the tail.
 

 

Notice the gap where the cowl joins the fuselage, in the panel aft of the cowl flaps.  This is a vent for the accessory section of the engine so don't fill it.  The louvers just below the tape are for a P-36C so they must be removed.
 

 

Still with the fuselage parts just taped together, thick CA glue was used in the locations shown, taking care to not join the left and right sides of the assembly.

 

At this point the wing was taped together and fitted to the fuselage.  A little material removed from the area shown allowed a good fit on the bottom.

 

The front fuselage bulkhead was fitted next.  Material was removed from both sides evenly, and also on the bottom.  None was removed from the top so that the fit of the guns, which rest in the holes at the top, would not be affected.  It was necessary to check the wing fit during this process because the front of the wing rests on the bottom of this bulkhead.  A little material was also removed from the stubs that stick out on the bottom so they fit between the wings.
 
The bulkhead after fitting.

 The aft cockpit bulkhead also needed some trimming on the sides to allow the fuselage to come together without gaps.  Once that was done, the front bulkhead, floor, and rear bulkhead were set in place, tape holding the floor at the right height, and the bulkheads were glued to the right fuselage assembly.  The floor was then glued to the bulkheads on the bottom.  A part has been attached to the back of the aft bulkhead before installation, it has details visible through a large opening in the aft bulkhead.

 

 

The ribs around the wheel wells are being installed here.  Although the P-36A at this early a time in its life should have canvas wheel well boots and none of this will be visible, it was found that these parts push up the upper surface of the wing and give a better match with the fuselage wing fairings so they were installed.
 
The wing center section was filed down some where it fits to the front fuselage bulkhead.  The leading edge of the wings have been super glued in the root areas and are clamped while curing.  When cured, the trailing edges were pulled down into place again at the root, and glued with CA.  Then the remainder of the gluing was done with thin model cement.
 
A nice fit has been obtained without stress on the plastic.  Gaps remain at the front of the wing root, and as will be seen there remains a gap on the upper wing roots.
 
 
A fixture was made to set up the proper dihedral.  It was found that the wing is molded at the correct dihedral according to the template scaled from the Detail and Scale drawings, but at the correct dihedral there is a gap at the upper wing roots.
 
Plastic card will be glued to the upper wing halves and then sanded until a good fit is obtained here.
 
Fuselage halves separated.
 
With all  the necessary fitting,  the designed method of attaching the instrument panel was not going to be practical.  A square of plastic card was glued to the back of the assembled panel so it could be glued to the forward bulkhead.  Some fitting was required so that the panel joined the cockpit sidewalls in the right locations.
 
Another test fitting with the  fuselage sidewalls in place.  The left sidewall has just been glued to the left fuselage half but not to the floor or bulkheads.
 
 
Here the right fuselage side panel, instrument panel, and both gun butts are glued in place.
 
Another view.
 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, October 8, 2016 2:21 PM

Built up the engine, including the ignition wiring.  I drilled out the holes for the spark plugs so I could insert the wires.  I super glued all the wires to the ignition ring before attaching it to the engine but that was not the best way, as I found when some came off during the fitting process.  Works better to stick them in the cylinders, fit them to the ring and attach with white glue.  Hope I can remember that next time I wire an engine. 

I sprayed some Alclad Gloss Clear on the cockpit, and then weathered with a mix of brownish dark water colors.  I didn't want too much, just the suggestion of dust over a silver lacquer finish.  I think watercolors are going to work for me, it is a very controllable method.

The engine is already inside the fuselage which is starting the gluing process. 

As you can see in the photo I had to add some plastic card on the top forward seam of the fuselage, but everywhere else came together just fine with Tenax.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, October 9, 2016 9:37 PM

Hello?  Hello?  Is anyone still here?  Joe?

More progress:

The fit here was affected by the different fuselage lengths, apparently.
Aves Epoxysculpt was used to reshape the area, as it looks just after application, and after some sanding an hour later while it is still a bit soft.
The tail insert over the tailwheel was also affected by the fuselage length, plastic card was used here.  The insert was a little wide, so it was scraped down to match with the back of a #11 blade and sanded smooth.
All of the detail relevant to wing guns has been removed and/or filled as needed, using Perfect Plastic Putty.  Nice product!   The wing guns were not installed until the the P-36C production.  Aves Epoxysculpt was molded into the wheel wells to simulate the canvas boots that were on production P-36's and were more than likely still on Rasmussen's P-36A.
 
 

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, October 9, 2016 11:07 PM

John wow.  I do love to see how you progress through the builds.  You have the gifts of a teacher buddy.  The little Hawk is going to look incredible.  I will remember your process.  I like the way you fit, fit, fit, and fit again long before you add glues.  I rush at times.  

 

For me how about a verbal update.  

The wings are now on.  After a couple of days fighting an elusive and stubborn seam on the wings I have touched up the paint and hit it with a gloss to prep for decals and weathering.  My plan is to give it the general markings for the Marine Air Group 31 which had aircraft on the ground at the time.  I have a couple of pictures with markings for other units at the same time period but none for the specific group.

A deadline has been discussed and that will be the first week in November.  I should be good to go providing all stays the same and the creeks don't rise.

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, October 14, 2016 11:42 AM

Thanks, Joe.  I'm sure you will meet the deadline, but good luck in any event.
 
Progress continues, .020 plastic card was sanded to a taper and pressed into the gap at the right wing root, then glued with Tenax.  A few areas were filled with Aves Epoxysulpt.  First sanding has been done, with more to come.
This side got the same treatment but it was also necessary to scrape down the fillet from the front of the walkway forward as it was was too high to fair with the wing.  A curved exacto blade was ground to a slightly smaller radius than the fillet to use as a scraper.  Flat white primer was next sprayed on heavily and hopefully will fill the scratches.
A little bit of sanding and the bottom looks pretty good.  You may notice a couple of holes on the bottom there that were not part of Special Hobby's plan.They became necessary when I noticed the engine rattling around loose in the cowl.  I stuck a toothpick in the prop shaft hole and wiggled it back into position and injected some Testor's thick model cement into the approximate location.  Seems to be working.  If I do another of these I think I will fix the engine to the firewall bulkhead with a screw as it is a butt joint with only a faint locating ring.
 
 

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:29 AM

Very nice John.

 

 

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:40 PM

More progress on the P-36A.  I apparently lost one of the exhaust shrouds and that was causing some consternation.  I e-mailed Special Hobby and though there was no response the part showed up in the mail about 10 days later.  Thanks, Special Hobby, good show!
 
The landing gear on the P-36 had a complex door arrangement with 4 separate parts.  The model also provides the gear segments that rotate the gear during retraction, in resin.  A little research was necessary to get everything in the right place as the instructions while good just didn't get everything clear in my mind, in particular how the bottom door fit in relation to the next one up.  I found a nice photo of a French reproduction Hawk 75 that was very helpful.]
 
Finally all the doors in place:
There was only a very short nub for a propeller shaft so it was replaced with a 3/32 brass tube.  The hole in the engine nose case was enlarged and a companion hole was drilled on through the engine firewall bulkhead.
The kit comes with three different windscreens.  The P-36A used the frameless version.  Positioning the windscreen was a little fussy but it finally settled into place just fine.
 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, November 1, 2016 11:49 PM

Wow.  Seriously impressive sir.  Very nice.

 

I have a confession.  The Wildcat is finished.  Now I wait for publication.  Hopefully not too long.

 

 

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, November 6, 2016 12:29 AM

Thanks, Joe, and congrats on getting your F4F done.

I bought some Montex Masks and they are working pretty good.  Don't know if I will use them for the stars, but the black markings are not difficult at all.  I tried to get some tonal variation and also added a little light grey into the silver on the ailerons and elevators.  I am going to paint the rudder stripes, the rudder decal folded and tore right off the bat.
 
The next two drawings are Curtiss and Frank Carlson in Assen Jordanoff's book Your Wings, a tome that I inhaled at about age 7, the drawings left a permanent impression of the P-36 on me.  I still would like to have a real one, what a neat sport plane it would make.
 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, November 6, 2016 10:23 PM

All done.
 
All the markings except the stars are painted.  In 1/32 scale I like that method, but I'm not sure how well some of the smaller details would work in smaller scales.  I attached the rudder with stainless steel pins, the sliding canopy is the right size but it wanted to ride up so it took a couple spots of CA to cure that.  The tail wheel strut has to be attached early on in assembly and of course the fork broke off.  I drilled and pinned the wheel to the strut, if you look close you can see a little of the pin but you would have to pick up the model first to get that close.  A better method would be to saw off the strut above the fork and drill and pin it there, which would also allow setting the tail wheel at an angle.
 
Right now it's sitting in the display case next to a 1/32 prototype Spitfire, airplanes of the same year, pretty near.
 
 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, November 7, 2016 11:41 AM

Again sir that is seriously impressive work.  

 

 

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, November 7, 2016 12:09 PM

Thanks, Joe!  I updated the photos this morning with the pitot tube added and the gun barrels painted.

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Posted by fighterguru on Monday, November 7, 2016 4:32 PM

hello everyone Been along time since Iv been on life really throws alot of curveballs. I think Id like to get in on this build if its not to late. I picked up a revel 1:426 Arizona. Alot of detail lacking but Id like to give it a go. I was woundering does anyone make any kind of aftermarket railings or gun sets for this kit?

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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, November 9, 2016 4:18 PM

You are in.  i will update the list when i get home.

 

This post is however the end of any new entries.  i want to give all a reasonable chance to finish without the mad rush at the end.

 

 

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:12 PM

dec 7, 1941

7:40 am 183 japanese fighters, dive bombers, level bombers, and torpedo bombers from the first wave form up after what was termed the best launch yet north of kakhuku point.

7::49 the commander of the attack cmdr fuchida signals "to" meaning charge to the other aircraft. the flight breaks up to begin attack runs.

7:53 to 8:00 aircraft from the six carriers begin attacks on nas pearl harbor (ford island), hickam field, ewa marine air corps station, bellows field, wheeler field, kaneohe naval air station, and naval vessels and stations located in pearl harbor.

8:00 to 9:00 b-17c's and b-17e"s arrive from the us mainland and are attacked while trying to land at various fields.

9:00 2 p-40"s piloted by 2lt whiteman and lt bishop are shot down after getting airborne.

9:05 four p-36"s led by 1lt sanders take flight, moments later another p-36 piloted by 2lt moore takes off. he joins up with 2lt brown from haleiwa field

these are but a few of the aircraft that got airborne. i have it written down but cant seem to find the estimated total sorties flown that morning.

11:00 cmdr fuchida makes his final flight over the destruction. he leaves the area when he confirms he is the last plane to leave.

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Posted by fightnjoe on Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:31 PM

Folks before we cross the finish line on this build I want to say thank you.

 

I have been hosting this build on different forums for the last twelve or so years.  Each year I see the fantastic work from so many builders.  Stunning tributes to be sure.  This year will be the last time I host this build.  I will continue to build a tribute each year but I feel I do a disservice to those who join and I do not wish to have that happen.  The last two years I have built subjects with the full intent to start and finish this build.  But they have been side tracked in both cases.  Last year the build ended up submitted to a magazine and thus I have not showed the completed build to this point.  That article is still in limbo with that mag.  This year I planned to let nothing side track me, wrong again.  This one however will be published and on the shelves next Friday I am told.  After that I will be free to show the finished build.  

I want to say thank you to all who have participated in this build over the last decade.  You have made this build a success in my opinion. 

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:36 PM

Joe,

Thank your for hosting this year. I'ts not always easy to host a GB. Life tends to get in the way...a lot.

Steve

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Posted by fightnjoe on Sunday, December 4, 2016 10:50 PM

To be honest my friend hosting this one was a pleasure all the way through.  

 

 

 

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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:06 PM

For those that will not finish by the "end date", I encourage you, please finish.  Do not let your build end up on the shelf of doom, never to be finished.  The spirit of this build is to remember, to honor those who died without knowing that they were at war.

December 7 1941, A day which will live in infamy.

The "attack" begins at approximately 7:51. At approximately 11:00 the last plane landed on the Japanese carriers. The time between is filled with death and destruction and the end of paradise. Six carriers.   Approximately 350 aircraft.  A plan designed to be just a distraction for the main thrust into the South Pacific by Japanese naval and army units. just a distraction, one designed to cripple the United States Navy so that the Japanese could move freely through the pacific.

In the end 2388 military and civilian dead. 2107 Navy and Marine as well as 233 army and 48 civilians. 1109 military and civilian wounded. 710 Navy and Marine as well as 364 Army and 35 civilians. 44 states represented, as well as the District of Columbia, Guam,  the Phillipines, and Hawaii. 16 congressional medal of honor  given as well as 51 Navy crosses, 53 silver stars, four Navy and Marine Corps medals, one Distinguished Service medal, and three bronze stars. 8 battleships sunk or heavily damaged, one minelayer sunk, two auxilliaries sunk or capsized and one heavily damaged. 169 aircraft lost, 92 Navy and 77 Army. 150 damaged, 31 Navy and 128 Army.   All this in 110 minutes of combat.

For this amount of damage the Japanese lost nine fighters, 15 dive bombers, and five torpedo planes.  One I-class submarine was lost as well as the five midget subs. the casualties; 55 airmen, 121 submarine crewmen, and nine midget sub crewmen.

These facts taken from several sources.

The attack was so quick, so sudden, many of those killed didn’t even know they were at war. even after the bombs and bullets started falling people didn’t believe that they were being attacked. one report of a young man hunting with a cousin didn’t believe there was an attack even after his cousin was killed.  After that day the Hawaiian Islands were torn from being a territory governed by a few families to becoming a true part of the United States becoming a state not long after the war.  The US Navy was forced to change from a navy of battleship groups to a Navy centered on the carrier.

Today it is said that the Arizona still weeps for her crew.

December 7 1941. Never To Be Forgotten.

Joe

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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, December 7, 2016 8:24 AM

Don't worry about mine Joe, I just brought the Enterprise back out last night and still plan to finish it for the Carrier GB.  Again, thaks for your enthusiasm in hosting this GB.

Scott

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Posted by fightnjoe on Wednesday, December 7, 2016 10:36 PM

Scott I will look forward to seeing what you do. 

 

It is and always has been the individuals who enter these builds that make them so special.  I thank all of you.  You have made this build special.

 

 

Joe

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, December 8, 2016 7:05 AM

Joe, thank you for hosting it.

Steve

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